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7-24-15 2pm Angela, Hot Topics

Jul 24, 2015|

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And we are back for our second hour of hot topics and of course the number one hot topic. It would everyone's talking about and that is the absolute tragedy. Of what happened in Lafayette in that movie theater. Unfortunately. We've heard it before not quite so close to home and that's what makes it even more painful for those of us from Louisiana. Not just the senseless ridiculous. Loss of life and what is going on. But we're asking the question Tom Manassas tonight in hopes that she'll participate in this conversation and and really bring your thoughts to what you think is going on. Do you think that the killings and shootings in Lafayette. Have more to do with our country not addressing mental illness. Or America's gun culture. The president and I had said even before this event recently in a in an interview. That in fact. Post on 9/11. There have been a hundred lives lost roughly a hundred lives lost. From terrorist but tens of thousands of lives lost. To gunfire here in America. It just brings to mind again on nobody. Everybody's afraid to say you know let's limit guns let's think about it. Take away guns let's forget that we're America we can have guns but let's do something more creative with Smart people. Yes some gonna get the calls dismaying could've found a gun yes this man could have done with nines are now we have a problem. We have problems so perhaps looking at that but equal to that. We must address mental illness in the society. There are millions and millions of people in this country who has a mental illness who function in life fine do not. Go to any extreme like this and yet when we look at people who have done these extreme things that is the thread through them. Is mental illness. And so and asked the question. What can only do as a country what can we do as a community. As a as a family lots of families don't go to the nth degree to help. But if there's no place else for them to go this man. Who is accused of this. Were John Hauser had been committed by his family I think in 2006. Had hits in other episodes. There were problems. I'm sure his family tried to do everything they could. What else what other alternatives aren't there so please give us a call 260187. Because of this event and now we're all looking out and hopefully. You know it's time carries on we don't look at it quite as sharply but. If you wanted to go to a movie this weekend are you gonna look at look around you can think a little differently. In reality this man could have gone just as easily into a grocery store just as easily into a mall just as easily into a school. And as we've seen all too soon into the church. Somebody that wants to make a statement like that but. Do we just say okay. This is the way life is are we our our our antenna up a little sharper. Are we looking at things differently. I'd love your thoughts on that as well. Bomb. So mr. time. Your thoughts before we go to call. I think it's more mental health issues I don't think you can blame. The gun for for the deaths obviously. Or that the fact that if this man wanted to do this he would find a way to get a gun he would have built the bomb and driven a car and today in the right movie theater if you wanted to I don't think you can actually predict. When these type of things are going to happen if someone's going to snap and do these sort of things and I think it's very easy to suddenly jump on and blame. The device that was used. To kill someone I mean you know after both Timothy McVeigh. Blew up the bomb in the you know in the Oklahoma City suddenly was like well should we not so fertilizer should we can not rig trucks should we you know and and we changed how. Trucks can approach government buildings and so forth and you still see the inspectors. And the checks. But we didn't blame the device that was used and but when it comes to someone using a gun we immediately jump. To the gun because I just think it's the simple solution because the mental health solution. Is more complicated and will cost more money in the long run right to this country with the with the health care system that is already. Strapped beyond belief as we've seen so many people complaining about the there their health care and so forth. And a lot of insurance doesn't wanna cover this because they do have a lot of mental health issues. In this country that do need to be addressed absolutely personally I think if someone wants to do something like this. If they are in that state of mind already in family members don't catch it her friends don't catch it and they do something like that. Is on that individual I don't think oh well absolutely the device or what they use. Steve is on the individual and and certainly not the family and family you know you can look in hindsight Philly. Could've shown tremendous concern sometimes you just don't know what to do sometimes they aren't available things in some communities. And more and more shares sank our health care dollars are not going to mental health. Well our phones have lit up in just immigrant store with Q you've been a trooper to hang on here on WW well. Cry Angela. McCall. In ought to just. On. Here. Sure law in the period. Now. And it came so. That out. Is that. The United States from the doctors will. We are. Available. And yet. So. People. Are. They're. That good at what he said chuck did you lose your mind you never know. This man as I'm sure you're aware was committed buys families and there was a history there. And we don't know whether he was on in kind of medication if he refused to medication what ever but this had been a sort of a process. So there was a place initially for him to go when your committed there's a limitation to that. But for him to check himself into some place. You know that might have helped we don't know but there are places you're right there are places which you know something not enough. And they are an awful lot of people who do not have the resources to go into a facility for long term. That's sort of saying it's it is com. Complicated and complex. The solution is complex. It isn't an illness where you have diabetes should take insulin you have this you Judas. This is a much. More. Heartbreaking frankly. But we. Because of its complexity I don't think we really look at it and say well let's find let's come up with some more concrete solutions the people who work and mental health to do. They work like dogs they care a lot but it is a it is about money and it is about commitment. I agree that money. A lot of money I mean doctors. On drew a lot of medical school. I think that that. I mean. I ought to student about a few weeks ago. You mentioned in this news. And I needed and that account or I mean I. Oh and if so. How well what network or any. Myself here. It was arteries and what it to the doctor. The better it would be too. It's great. News is that mentally ill go see her age should people Cold War but he. Well it. No nobody has a solution but this is once and we need to put our heads together and work. Toward it you had an again I applaud you. You were going through what I called situational depression and you've got help that was the right and Smart thing to do. People who have diagnosed whether it's schizophrenia or bipolar or other more severe types of mental illness. Thank god there are some medications. But you got to take them. He's got to take on and you've got to be monitored. And again even with one very well meaning family members it can be tough. Well Asia picket Verona Italy a lot of calls such a big jet at the end is an important thing because. I'm devastated by what happened yes you know we saw who grew up. Order speech there gun salute stand by that. Justin thank you for calling I mean that very very much. Our next caller dug in homer you're on WW. All. Actually. Yeah at pebble placed around the law. Really appealing since nineteen. So 66. Triple what the school there you're O. All. This was raise kids. It'll yet. And this to me so devastating you expected. Well. And that we raise you so I don't really. Sure about it and so much art and it happened there. What you know. Entered the that they really. You know it always investigators say do this in doing. That taxpayers money. Well what I really think model is just. You know a crazy person it will be objective when an art there's a law. Shut all these people. And you know being. Very close there and dig a bit and see psychological. You know I. I think it's more because Iraq here which are saying but. The more they know. The more their help with every one of these traumatic events whether it's the kid in the church whether it's the column buying guns whether it's. The horrific thing at sandy hook killing those children. We learned something a little more. So it to me it's worth the tax dollars to have the investigators investigating. Bomb. But you know I'm really what I'm hearing is you that you lived an up or live in a precious community. And it is changed now means something terrible has happened. You have strong wonderful people there and I've met great people from Lafayette the not the warmest most loving people. In Lafayette so I don't think you know how can this happen in Lafayette it is any place you could happen any place but I cry for them to. You correct. Today in the world. But anyway. Addressed it wasn't. Shocking it was buried cars. Get so vice Versa. You owe me. Quote in this. It's it's. A proposal yeah. Done all night I worked I worked and lived in Lafayette my wife is from their I have in laws there. I know exactly where the shooting took place I've been in that movie theater I was there when it used to be the real superstore that's so long ago or. But above. And beyond and and just to think that something like that could happen while you're watching a movie I think. Where you don't expect it. To have. And that his win. To me that that's the hardest thing of to fathom for those families that are going through it. For those that were shot the victims and and their families and stolen just the community going forward yeah. Yeah thank you very very much done for your thoughts and for this call we're gonna have to take a break attempt to Oliver of the callers Michael Elizabeth Laurie Lisa bomb to him rent. Your next stay with. Here with top Manassas as we talk about the hot topic of the day. And that certainly is. What happened last night in Lafayette in that movie theater in the death of two beautiful women in the shooting of others. And down and and sadly it. It being in a venal as we continue to more and more missed what a few months ago was the church before that it was this before that it's just. Miserable to think about innocent lives people just going along their natural to let me go to a movie let me go to church let me go to school. And we have these situations. We are talking about asking the question do you think this has more to do with are not addressing mental illness. Or about America's gun culture let this go to Elizabeth Elizabeth. I think it's important to look in other countries. First world country so called first world which we are part of more than it happened very and aren't nearly as. Available. Oh. What it currently in the country does a much stronger social outburst the. To learn a lot easier to get mental and physical out there. Where it's a guaranteed right for all. I think that. And on and here we have very widening gap between the original four. Access to health care here is more dependent only. The income you have another country does not sell every one is more equal. And it's termed a paint this as a complex issues you certainly need to look at all of the thing. Well Elizabeth just just to clarify that we'll have people calling there have been shootings and other countries that do have. Gun laws there was not barely. There were there were two aren't too this year nearly Yahoo! this year one and on and said to I'm Leo reading you listen just telling you. They're not as many but they do happen either I'm not as Annie but they do happen to dilemma isn't it. And I let me finish Elizabeth digest article as saying before you erupted may amount of which on Hoch who won't shut up. Is that. They do happen they don't happen a lot of people say they don't happen at all they do happen they're not as much as in the United States but yes they do happen. There were eight killed in the Czech Republic in February 2015. Three and Austria at June 20 June 20 of this year. 2013 thirteen in Serbia. In 2012. Sixteen to seventeen injured in the UK which has very strict gun laws so. They do happen if somebody wants to do one of these they can get access to a gun but yes access to guns are easier in America. Elizabeth. Into the salute again. Elizabeth I appreciate your son on this and I think which are really pointing out is. You know I don't think this country's ready for socialized medicine may happen and happen in my lifetime. But I do think you're right that it is about the availability of care. And and I also think it's the larger. Discussion. About there's still a stigma to mental illness shouldn't exist in this country. We shouldn't. You know analyst on the happening much more frequently is seen so people feel like grabbing guns and shooting up a bunch of people. There's so much wider gap between the rich and the poor here than other first world tension I think all of these factors play into that. Yeah I appreciate your call very much a but I'll let this go too well Lisa in New Orleans leasing your under the W. Talk. Eric art. Control. Are committed to her. Son got. Calling in. About. We need an stigma associated. We. Aren't writing. And oh no more Indian. Problem. And formed a foundation. Promised by age where we're trying to right there. Education and music nor are. We you know. Made out strong but well I. Already. Think people need to take a look at it like when I. Called. People. At tech there is open your. The nail on the head it it's like you're right and I heard on national television some authority this thing crazy crazy it is an illness. It is an illness. Treat it like diabetes are heart problem like you don't got these odd because. People like or console or. I am I am so sorry for the loss fevers and I'm I'm I'm so happy though that you are doing what you're doing. Is that will affect people's lives Lisa. Something next I'd come. Out on. We. On his greet the Loney is. It. That's starting out and air. For the musicians. And greet. Let me tell you brought the good point nominee is having a walk in October I'm going to be there for that I hoped to meet you there and I hope others go there. There are people in the know who can make a difference and if we all kind of jump on the bandwagon with our hearts and our money we can't see a difference. Lisa I'm gonna have to go have got to go to the newsroom but thank you very very much. So let's go to the newsroom will be right back. The horrible thing that happened and Lafayette last night in the movie theater we're gonna continue with our callers and please join us 2601870. Bush acknowledged text 87870. But we like to hear your voice let's go to Bob on the West Bank thank you for holding your Honda VW. Thank you for taking my call. I like that may be one complexity that is if you. Unfortunately. People on board with Madeleine was as they develop over time by trapped in these circumstances. Or whatever. But I am and what it in the case of this government they appear at the before you showed signs of mental illness what you do. What is it with that because if somebody already possess that gun and then comes Bentley you know. Got a situation I don't know I don't know and. Now. Of course there are some would argue that some people are born with mental illnesses. But your right environmentally they can come to circumstances that arise caused issues. But to be to bring up a very good question this man however from everything we're hearing. Had such a clear history of it and was actually actually tried to get to any. Concealed carry permit and was denied not because of his mental health. But because of he had a slight record something he had done and and was sent declined. But. You keep it and you can get seal. You're on the sport today concealed care. And so yeah. And then you. Can concealed carry. Really yet only. Twenty they would 11. And then. Becomes mentally ill. That that people. And explain how I feel that. Bobby bring up the question and I appreciate that called very much thanks so much. About it. Let this go over to what Mike in the CBD thanks for holding your own WW well. Apparently the court in. Our board member so. Form so. Oh. Straight. All. You got that for. I and the bandit. Side on Friday. One. Good ship and go to the week again. And here we did try to get that grade seven days per week. An outrage it ought to fail. The true reform. It's been that victory day. And he would. From. And you. Can do. That there are. Laws on Tuesday. And he. That that. They come. And conclude. And it but. Count me. In that they check the record. Light and it. And I am in the the (%expletive) That. Syria. To clear. Well now. The but digital. If it. MI got I got no problem with they would adding to the waiting period to get it done I have no problem but that they did it should be a little bit longer than that because. That does give you more time to do a background check it if you have. Nothing to hide in your background Jackie shouldn't be worried about waiting the extra day or two and. Yes and would that. How would that they made people and the UK. The United States who had. That that would that that was just a list of I like. My that was just that was just a list. Compiled a Rampage killings which is what this would be considered. When you add in school shootings and workplace shootings and all the others. It comes up higher but that would just that one list 'cause I was comparing it to what happened in Latvia. I. I didn't deny that there are less in those countries that there are here yes we have more guns here than we than they have in those countries because they're not allowed to have them by. When I was trying to point out is if someone is mentally ill or someone really wants to kill a bunch of people. They will find a way to do it as you said that their it's hard to stop those folks. If they lifted up and go under GAAP and our. The Zhou. Give them much stronger. Mental health. Check people get it tomorrow. A bank or. Bergen but yeah totally. And he also after he also have to Liggett Mike is as we go to the break here with the Bernie Sanders who's a presidential did democratic presidential candidate he says. 99.9. Percent of gun owners use their guns responsibly and don't kill people with we always forgot. We always focus on the 1% that do. But Mike thanks for your ideas and I think that's what we need to do we need to start thinking a little bit out of the box we do have a lot of Smart people in this area. Stay with us we'll be right back. The horrendous thing that happened in Lafayette a continuation of very sad thing is very innocent people. Being slaughtered. And the impact it has on all that's the ripple effect let the stock but it's also talking about mental health were also talking about guns. And we're talking about has your life changed at all and will change at all. With one more episode like this and as you go into public Arenas. Let's go to Sylvia's Sylvia engine Tilly thanks for holding your on WW. Thank you. And yet so we'll round depression anger management in our society. And our hope. If I don't think you know. Somewhat check my background from that apple issues. And that occasion. Their day that it I have it now I think actually it did not want. He oh are the two have such a self awareness of something like that but I hear what you're saying about have you ever tried to get a gun. No I have. I have a lock on agriculture and if I ever thought to actually built in patent application for one. Why don't it would change you would feature in my medication how he happened is being there. Should. So assuming would you have a problem with their being paid databases. Mental health. A Chihuahua. Out of some some bugler texting thing that they think that would put him morbid stigma on mental health. Well I mean it is what it is when you deal with people. We go to Antawn back from I think that what it. But not all bought into but things happen and now I actions you walked out. We will help anchor Bob did you handle it matzo DiMarco accounts. Were you son you know but and mop the poignant. I don't think any want me to Atlantic Unita in the on allotment oriented military on needed and a oh. Now let me tele I appreciate the bravery you have of talking about this because I couldn't agree with you more it is part of your life and if you have. What it takes to get that hill and insisting on that medication and still recognize. But you have this issue an openly talking about it let me tell you I applaud. Because there is nothing to be ashamed that you are doing the best you can. No thank you thank you very very much for the skull. Let us go ahead and go to law Jean Marie arrow Jean. Yes I didn't. Practice on that book I got a lot but I didn't. Now part the bow out he'd had an uncle that hasn't happened yet not all I am. Who knows that he went there to see them. Can I tell you what they thought that was a scripted it. Yeah they did a wonderful job they all didn't. I don't. And another thing I want to know if you've got gonna put down at a point that the technical and a movie theaters. You know what Jeanne we're gonna we're gonna try to talk about that and I think that's a very important question for every one to think about if this is just you know. We want to live normal lives who want into the movie theater and wanted to the grocery story wanna go to the mall wanna go to school but if that means just like now. I don't even blink anymore when I go to saint skiing yeah I've got my little plastic see through purse they can paction down I don't think about it anymore going to an airport. If the new reality is that it's in every public place the let's just accept it is that in fact keeps people. That are armed thinking ugly thoughts. From getting him. Now didn't it and they do that for awhile in the Israel they do that's exactly Ronald detectors for about a rumor everywhere and of course they have they targeted. Enemy. So the wisdom of that but maybe we have to accept the fact that it's a new day. I'm talking about the last ten years yourself fifteen years and let's just go and put him. I'd like to know people's thoughts on that. Well we put them in a lot of schools a lot of school yes they do them in and do that as well. You know not every school night every school district did some duke. I don't know I mean how hard would it be that you you walk through one to go to an airport how hard would it be to do it did just about every business but. Then you have people and have the you know conceal carry permits. Then it will obviously clashed them it'll flash and then then they have to show time bride price and so forth and so on so. You know I don't know that that's questions for and I guess that would be up to the movie theater themselves if they wanna do that there are private entity if they wanna. Put up metal detectors then I guess they could. Maybe they will change their rules may be that way of armed guards I don't know oh we're we're still waiting to see how all this is gonna shake out how it's gonna change. The landscape of just every day normalized. Right but but in fact our everyday normal life. Has been progressively changing certainly with what happens at the airports and now I mean events happen that cause reactions just like you were saying with the Tim McVeigh. Now you can approach certain buildings the same way ride shall we do have. Fought out reactions to this may seem a little dramatic but at the same time if it gives people peace of mind. Then just a huge cost to it. We're going to continue this conversation. For another hour so I want Gregory and Charles and John in Marion Tim stay with us. This is important and we wanna hear your thoughts to 60187. Day stay with this I'm Angela with Todd on WWL. And we are back top Manassas and myself talking about on the Lafayette shootings. Not let this out quickly go to. Lease leasing your under the W. Hi Angela. I'm afraid that it. Darkening cheer her mentally country they're gonna mourn more incidents like. And the problem is were terminally ill in prison with hardened criminal when they come forward and they went. You know of course. But what we expect. Let me tell you can't run an important point about ten and you talked to sheriffs all over this country. I isn't what they who were in for. Taking care of people like this I mean it we need to address. How best to help mentally ill if. Back in 1998. Programs here more. I'm myself as and I'll tell back then I'm and I think. I think it because that would be desolate and now I'm language interpreter. 08. Where. A pack on my way back from New Orleans summit. Let me ask you what did we have in the ninety's that's not here to day. Well we had. And how how true that pierce. I elected to get in here it'll help. Plate that we can't out there. The psychiatrist helped me you know get on occasion. It was eight era at Atlanta weekly. You know it and we don't have more here banks to adapt our state. Which it now. That's another story but anyway. And I'm really opened it he wrote the tell. I really think we need. You know that the. I'll tell you what we have and we have an opportunity we have the gubernatorial election in third in three months and perhaps every one of the candidates need to address. With very specific answers. What they will do. To better our mental health care in the state. Yet into the fire. I don't know thank you very very much. Again we're going to take another break but Todd and I will return so please stay with us on the telephone we do want to hear from you 260187. Day we'll be right that.

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