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9/1/15 8:10pm Double Coverage with T-Bob & Kristian

Sep 2, 2015|

The Saints pair the roster to 75 players, who were the surprise cuts? Don’t miss the latest names on the chopping block.

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75 at this double coverage welcoming and devout Christian hanging Alan Jones that Brett master control. Got stuff coming your way and of course the saints trimming their roster from ninety to 75 players technically 89 to 75 players to catch up. On all Leo latest transactions but the casualties include wide receiver nick toon. Fullback Eric lord. Outside linebacker Ronald Powell also. Anthony Spencer being put on injured reserve. We have the latest names on the top of block on line we have had to be to be well dot com but immune in the two game now when that news came out to about how. I guess he should have been surprised about now right. No I mean. And AT&T had run its course it was your fourth term picnic in 21 dollar and twelve. It is kind of odd today. Was today that really highlighted some of the same struggles recently drafting especially when you must. Yeah I mean I think it was. All bleed in the name between them a little while ago I'll go find it Jeff fashion as it was Jeff basher one of them Q blogs today. Had a really stat heavy kind of peace one of those Saber metrics. Type deals where he really. Broke down. The numbers as far as where you draft guide to how good they're expected beavers how good they actually end up being. And that the 2006 in strapped class. Was the best draft class of the past ten years if you good 2005000. Do you have to teen. There's extract such as best how ever it was really the only good. Saint year every especially recently. They've been really pour and when you look overall at the league will he be Ed one graphic where. If they could get dressed in success over the last ten years and it's come as no surprise that. The clump of teams at the bottom bald and they're bad and missed the playoffs almost every year while the club good teams that topic had continuous success later. A little bit more in the middle yet did this supporting. Drafting recently in that was highlighted today that it is actually last year who's left. We'll Staley gene that east while pals go on. Basis there is gone from hiring or it's being gone carryforwards gone. Who's the other one from lash them miss seeing. Well I'll get to it a second but going back and of any concerns been necessary was waived injured today but going back to 2010 to two point fourteen. Only eight draft class members remain on this team. Well over four years that is armed kind of unbelievable. Look out. The saints. Oh win mean it is the ultimate cure all right yeah they can help with the anything so. The saints front office needs to hope that this team wins this year they have a success this season they make the playoffs. Because right now I mean and we touched on here they are just so many scary numbers. About the saints cap housing mismanaged you have 20%. 20% a fifth a full fifth of your cap. Currently going to players who aren't even on the team anymore. You lead the league. Is dead money and you will lead the league again next year. In dead money and so when you combine those numbers which were with what you just said. Has front office and mismanagement. Written all over. The saints pair the roster down to 75 players nick toon gone fullback Eric lord gonna Ronald Powell fifth round draft pick. From last year gone. Vinny sincerity but what names are you mad about which ones are you glad about 2601870. Texan 87870. More more as the saints look to trim the roster down to 53 players. On this Saturday at that they wrap up pre season. Against Green Bay this Thursday night outside the brain it cooks a Marcus Colston the saints go into the season with some unproven players and wide receiver do you have faith in that receiving corps you're talking about guys. My branding Coleman you know allowed. Willie Snead Joseph Morgan. You talk about potentially Sean TVs Jones Josh Morgan remaining on this roster. Right now I know Josh Moore is an eight year veteran but my point in the seat system when all those players aside from Colson coach there on proven via. Well every and we will and there's a concern I think he had law mean absolutely and it's one that we talked about. Since the Jimmy grant entry right I mean. Wayne Graham leaves town that was the first being. That really came right especially when you then follow that up with the Kenny stills trade. Is where are the weapons killing. Com now forgive me for repeating myself but it laid this out on double coverage a couple times back on the old station don't really know. If I've gotten in my philosophy on the saints policies from this last year basically. You rate bad mixture of some missed signings. So bad draft picks some bad signings. The saints it created a repeat. Terrible conundrum for the cells they almost made like he prisons sort of puzzled me had to figure out a way out. And the amused that they saw last year that was the air effort. To figure. Out how to get better immediately. While making. The least kept personal music at the least number of music they looked for high value players which players would demand the most return Jimmy Graham. He had the whole bleacher first round pick. Great player position need and you free of little cash Kenny stills he AZ younger I had a lot of potential. But you also got really good value so I don't think dummy bit but when you did did you breeze. I don't think that they necessarily take in any of the burden off of the shoulders I described it as a shift dean of the weight. That breeze is currently bearing went instead of coming win asking him to overcome. Maybe some sub par interior offensive line play. And a really bad defense they're to say look we're gonna try to address those issues we're gonna try to solidify that line. We don't a lot of guys in that secondary mixed but now it's up to you to make Brandon Coleman. Com shall TVs Jones I mean it did it to me that exactly all right Steve. I am glad I got an ally have been here for a while on yeah he's been alive break as I've. Treated and retreated about him previous holes there are legal but going back is. Like you said when you talk saints wide receivers I mean I know you drafted Brandon Coleman in the seventh round of our fantasy draft yesterday by. You know someone outside looking in we've seen anything out of him in this precinct. Going back to the point fourteen class branding coach first round Stanley dean that the second round that's it. That's all they have still on there and now there's let me let me just preface of this. When you wave injure a guy like mini since there there's an opportunity is a chance chomping explain this at the practice. That once he clears waivers you could bring him back put him on injured reserve build Indy but back to your exclusive property. And give players the how does the injured reserve or can players we brought up injured reserve and now they're given. Short term designation but when you but he explained this when you wave in Durham there's a chance that. He could be yet have you don't have he's got waivers yes you'll be vested veteran. Yep if you don't have four accrued seasons. You must be waived during the pre season before they can place and I or give other teams this stop teams from basically. Stashing away talent on their eyes are right it makes it makes it's that everybody get a shot at this guy. If they want him a what do you think it means for Vinny sincere and I'm someone who's never been. The highest odds are gonna do admit to a bit of may be personal bias. This is why I think he's always. Was going to be that spent a core special teams player play elite 67 years on I'm up prior to the injury via played only 67 years into those cost got two guys Camille played four in a pinch. All of the facade of the ball is never going to be a starting caliber. Safety for you but he did get to some snaps on all the special teams and and then in some packages look if you wanna play. If if you know what he would've been available I think. And been out there and been played a role strictly an eight and last year admitted that's true than they were. Keep mine on my car and I believe in and I know they have to waving your body do you expect him to get back to Ohio are yet when he clears it clears waivers he clears waivers. I expect that 2601870. Text that he 7870. Outside of brandy coax him Marcus Colston. The saints go into the season with some on proven players at wide receiver do you have faith in their receiving quarry cash a vote. On line at WW well like come on the phone lines well at 2601870. Text that he 77. And it's kind of like what you which would you rather right would you rather still have the Jimmy Graham what would you. Rather injured Brees have to overcome not having a Max Unger in the center or the defense of last year or. Do you wanna try some new and that's why look hey I IE. I don't necessarily applaud the front office for this last offseason because I think it's a kind of forgiveness. Stein solution and they came up to a problem that they created. For themselves what if nothing else it made some very bold moves this offseason in an effort to improve immediately but. It just remains to be seen how plays out I mean the offense looks like it's going to be really good woods kind of odd to say that agree and right after we have this conversation about. A lack of weapons with the line looks are not out. A lot of weapons that as a whole on this team I just think at the receiving corps. You can't definitively come to a to a judgment saying look I mean this is not in 20091011. Where you had a receiving corps stacked with Colston. Lance Moore Robert Meachem Devery Henderson. Steve even those names I know they're near gears saints fans are for the general NFL is again I mean general well I not to know those receivers names and they were solid players I mean may be. Lance Moore I think out of that group. And look I loved I loved every Anderson since he was at LSU but Robert region in Devery Henderson probably not gonna ring your bell. When most NFL fans roundly so maybe some of these guys can step up would be. Of that cal. He Steve out on Christian is double coverage Brian a cellphone coming your way. Right after this. Double coverage team not a Christian phone lines are open for 2601 a seventy text needs 7870 the entire. Fifteen fourteen transactions. For the saints coming out today also Jalen Saunders traded for a future draft pick a conditional draft pick. To the doing the patriots from the saints so that's of value from a player if you think about this as a big that's of value for a player that he brought in off the street level potential. Right conditional draft choice still trapped. Well but if they do boys and a conditional in that route in light of how many well I thought I thought it just it's been on how Jim Saunders as they went up again or do you have a draft pick I thought it was conditional where. To potentially might not even be a draft. EA if if he doesn't take certain amount of snaps or play a certain amount rule. Are certain rule that yet they wouldn't but potentially right potential value but you gotta turn that in to sultan potentially for a but then again who is they've. Drafted refuse threw just recap. Want to act now right at one thing we're seeing even know it sounds funny but. As bad as I've talked about the saints drafted ability over the past few years. I do like this last year's setting there's some strong elements in this last year's class and we have to hope that there are. Because this last year's class is going to be forced into action. Immediately I get no we're talking receivers they will continue to talk receivers. The real life bid to build the on this team remains. The defensive front seven they're young. Talented. Some games they're gonna look here are some games they're gonna look. Will the good look pretty good they're gonna grow and they're gonna get better 10 win as far as the receivers conversation goes Christa never seen a lot of on the tech side which is that Sean Payton injure breeds can put average guys in position will find that success. Wool and also this is the problem though is that we don't even know if these guys are. Right I mean. That it would way it would that we don't know anything about these players really. Any regular season NFL Forman or the guy like Josh Morgan. He's been around league so he may be applies more but really everybody else in this list or deal it's a really small sample sizes. 2000 O'Brien on the cell phone you're on double coverage Howard Bryant. Yeah I've enjoyed the year. And technical look a lot the theory. How many more years that the leadership in place that we continue to. And the opposite is. Some reasonable defense to carry the load. Were. Well it's it's a results based business obviously you know you always hear the old man comes on forests of what have you done for me lately that one of his favorite sayings. But if we take a step back. Christian I mean really we're dealing with a rubber match sort of year rightly we feel like these defensive struggles have been going on for a long time now but in reality they have. Two years ago you had a top five defense. But he definitely that's a very written it's very real I think worth pointing out is going back to Gary Gibbs. Followed by Gregg Williams Steve Spagnuolo and Rob Ryan. Sean Payton is this is his ninth technically is ninth season on the sideline discount not counting the point twelve season. That's for defensive coordinators in nine years it's an average of two years per or bad luck that's why I had anti any look at the personnel that is changed over. On that side of the ball in particular. There's not a lot of stability and that is interesting defensive coordinators rarely get talked about in the same way that often to coordinators do right when you hear about it quarterback. Who's constantly having to change dolphins in corners it's a big deal. It really can stunt the growth has since some guys via the Sam Bradford has had almost a coordinator per year that's about the idea point. Now the scary part is it's the same averages saints' defense almost by like you said during the show on. Payton air so I imagine it's a defensive player you know I don't have to have personal experience about that ball but I imagine that would be hard to deal as well you're dealing with new systems. New terminology new coaches new relationships not as impact hole. As the quarterback dose he really should but it does make it hard to establish that. Long term consistent identity right when you think about the Steelers how long was Dick LeBeau. I was into the corner Allison over it at least over debt Steelers defense is good almost every single year and a part of that obviously was having me. Good when he left a court talent. He was there are left with the Cincinnati to be their coach three years and came back I believe so. They think the different stance both spending over a decade. It exactly. Right so sometimes that consistency goes a long way and I think one of the main reasons why could they did bring back Ryan. Was because it would have been a bad look to make another change. At defensive corners is a rubber match here so when Bryant says yeah a long. Can we go on accepting this to only be in one year right I mean and then Q when you're talking about firing guys and moving on is in kind of third bad year in that normally when they he did just kids too hot in the kitchen. Well especially when you start look at that. The overall track record of a coach a mean look. If you ever head coach that in his first year takes into the playoffs and in two years misses the playoffs and that's as that's has told total three years yeah that's probably going to be Ian Williams guys it's been. A ground for ten years you get along really she gave the benefit of the doubt the good rectified etc. and I think that's where shopping season Brian what I try to dismiss it. By any stretch but. I think it's a little early right now and had the conversation as I mean wallets it's certainly topical. The thing about how long can somebody sustaining it it's really like team up pointed out. Can they overcome it starts second in wins once again which you'll squash all that that conversation altogether anyway Brian. Charlotte today at will and look to Brian's point man. Leggett said bears some really scary numbers. They'll be called into question and if this is the if the season goes horribly awry. A scapegoat will make that drive in the right word for both Blaine will be placed somewhere and pressure will be applied now would be. Leads to a major can think about it you're talking about. Mickey Loomis and John paid either one of those guys as or theory important these are major pieces in this organization obviously so. The scrutiny impression that he really it would have to really grow mushroom. In order for an actual personnel moves take place but when you look. It 20%. Of the cap being paid to players aren't on the team and then let's say that shares spurred. Misses a couple games here at the beginning. That's another six million to cap this year that's not going to be contribute to your team your most Keating into the conversation we have a quarter. A fourth of your salary cap. Not even on the field for how're you supposed to like the effect of the saints are he'd been. Still in the playoff conversation in a little cast struggles like that is kind of miracle. And it's to breeze. That's why when he allows you. A little bit more room for margin for air yet what and that's why a lot of ways and why how how in the hell has just got we we really didn't as far as. He makes everybody better role yet so now there's not as much pressure on you as a front office as a scouting department to not there and find that dynamic player and that it is today. What date they hit on a hall of fame quarterback right I mean when a team hits on all fame quarterback they tend to enter a golden bear out of their franchise. Now the question is can you hit on back to back hall of fame quarterback some of done right. Amanda the niners did it the Packers did it it certainly looks as if the colts have done it mean it's early but. A breezy magazine here image taking Andrew let's get real data civilized. Terrible downturn how weird is that if you look he's so good. That after what three years of feel comfortable saying he's a future hall of Famer that's. That that's that's why. Yeah now I look. You can I think it's very fair to say that all with the caveat. He's gonna win it simple in. And he there's a lot of openings at thing there's a lot of things that could that you have a but I feel good about. The reason why commitment has because you go. When I get a win it's a bull or two even if he and that therefore put an office. Even if he doesn't win a Super Bowl though him coming to you know his rise is taking place. During the passing aero of the NFL the colts throw the ball and absurd the number of times. Andrew Luck stacks by the end of his career Christian. I mean I dare dare they they they will be out of this world now do you get in the conversation of how long does he play. But this is just a long waited way. Of saying they haven't been to agree with Brees recently allows you some flexibility otherwise mean. Without a quarterback like Drew Brees there is a 0% chance you move guys like Jimmy Graham is that it instills. I zero ones are talking about receivers do you think the drop from branding Coleman in the end zone against the patriots her a little bit of Drew Brees is confidence lasted about that to practice you'll hear that until minutes in the short answer no Drew Brees is always gone the coup if you're in the game. If you have a drop. He's come right back for that's. That's what the great quarterbacks that's within the really good leaders do in general as they keep giving you opportunities in the text goes on let's say dvd try to trade nick toon even though he's not have value to the team. Maybe to like the Packers know and here's why because new nick who's injured united unite and take damaged goods when you potentially know that you're gonna get you potentially have a shot animal on the free agent market. And what can he get values where I mean look at it and here's the thing when I when you're not hypothetical like that. And it worried him more importantly they need to values right after trading for him. When you think about hype that always able library that was okay kids getting a little bears is a bag resents. I'm just wonder flavors spicy cajun crawl to cater. How opinion. Original name and let us now favor it doesn't matter what's your favorite. My favorite apps yes. My disease is the original cats and humans and global board to idolize him not here to judge I do enjoy some spicy cage cropped. Those are good that's probably one of Iran and if I mean if they'll GM ether of the shrimp po boys in their probe park where you might have yourself a deal for team. Anyway getting back gambling size bags getting back attuned though what Abby and I hear these hypothetical trades. On time I think we played Madden in real life we will throw these with those hypothetical trades out there it's like. Were taken a fair trade off. Feature off the game where I can send you yes I did say G nick junior gonna give me a first round draft pick. Unless unless your chair Richardson and then they do take a fair trading obvious you hear cursor effects Ryan Clark's. I mean just hang out and you have charged and now. Called on the worst run back of all time. What she's so wild because if we think that Trent Richardson and we say you know he's getting college was good in the NFL he lead to a rookie year. I mean you rush for over a thousand yards and he was a fantasy Darlene. Going in the year number two in Cleveland I I I cannot explain have zero clue. When added to reject now you know my overall theory on Alabama players is which a lot of times but it looked like mark. Well no. Though OK Mike it would Mark Ingram is just that the reason why he would usage growing pains is 'cause he was literally grow in this lead. At 21 years old so often we are excited that he's in national champion. Heisman Trophy winner he did all that by 21 he is he signed his second contract Christian and he's. What 25 years old. Right now right when he six years on the so ago and Mark Ingram that's like he always just a geologist. I was telling this to my theory with Alabama play you're suggesting that. How well you know I I optima bandwagon I flew the SS Ingram flag last year and it worked out. Quite nicely and I think you'll this year but these LB employers. They recruits that could tell right number one class every year. So no matter who they are going against in college football. You can almost guarantee. 99% of the time government talent perspective. They're the better team. So when you put all of those guys Cole and in. Number talented guys verse the other side maybe as 45. I'd care just like that. Everybody's. Going to look better and I think it leads to some these guys may be looking a little bit better than they actually are when they deal. Have these offensive lines in front of them they don't. Have these deepen the blind front and I say just. What what what's what's insane about greater than the sum of their parts of the leaders that's the situation and that talking about to solve might never be able to figure. And media it's detectors and I guarantee William tell us 878350. Ones are bad says if you trade it to the Packers he can at least get some cheese that's true. Outside and had a two. Green Bay to another chief Steward don't shake your head. She's cards are good tip give you I am sure that Green Bay would be willing to make it she's spurs apps tray right just a little cultural. Exchange there snowman it's able to argue to a 2601870. Text and 87870. The saints have turned their roster to 75 players casualties include nick to fullback Eric lore Ronald Powell. In the latest names on the chopping block online at W Imelda Kumble we want your reaction anybody mad or glad about. 260187. Tech states and the Teddy is double coverage on WWL. Double covered they'd rather a practice they will travel to small Green Day. Wrap of the pre season 75 players now on the roster. The full listen roster moves on line for Ria had Debbie to google.com as is are pretty jet or opinion poll. Outside of when it cooks Marcus Colston saints go into the season with some unproven players a wide receiver. The F faith in the receiving core 260. 1878 text and 8787 email and text earlier to Bob Baskett about if that drop from Brandon Coleman against New England. Now wavered the confidence of Drew Brees take a listen to his comfort of comfort level with clinical. Oh have great comfort level with the he's had a phenomenal. Offseason pre season. And here is just just like any young player you know it's it's that. It's a transition from the place that you make your practice to the game and you know battle only come with more opportunities. But I'm excited for him I love his approach a love is. His focus and you know just. His maturation process from last year this year. He deserves a lot of credit he's worked extremely hard to get to this point. Judge him after week one or two let's see Alec is what. What's the thought right is that he hasn't done in the regular season game yet right he's gonna get those chances yeah it looks like so weak to. We three for having this conversation then it's a little ballot I feel like the right now. And let them have a chance IE the united unite you know most here at the desperation in your voice as you. This as a candidate any images height hope scratched Crowe on for a that Randy Goldman is good this nobody and no other reason why Republicans cleaned our practice and in training camp. You can't help logo are right he should make plays well and probably opportunities how many targets disease that you know not a lot no you're actually right right. Four and into games yet now. I think you're right did Q judge branding Coleman now is. It's big crazy but what is also a big crazy. And what we are seen a lot of on the tech side is stuff like. Oh well nobody knew who Marcus Colston was and look how good he ended up being. Comparing brain and Coleman to Marcus Colston at this point we haven't seeding is a huge insult. To Wear a receiver. Who is it any conversation for best receiver of all time to never make a Pro Bowl right and Nina Marcus Colston might be at the top the list of the amount of thousand yard seasons. That he's put up without ever making it. Tell lies so we wave to our guests on and why anymore is but way too early yesterday in no way too early. Do you bring your brain gold always act conversely I get I get the idea they gonna get the hope there. You're setting yourself up for disappointment. I've they give your really starting to believe that. Snowman and Saban are how aria yard double coverage we think you have faith in the states while receiving corps outside of Brandon cooks and Marcus Colston. Well that I have Pretoria Markel and on. Our wants are want to start. About art keep it straight 1000 right now and I don't and also man. Appointed to comment on. Receiver situation and the outside is just an insight because you know believe it humans not only been millions and obsolete and our roster. Now looking in hindsight what went all that apple can still tree and you know you look at LB. Honestly don't even think he's gonna make ditching. War Ellerbe was in on terrorism and finish before armed. Well I'm just thinking about like. Why I understand I heard about it or not but like. Man it's we and it's still right now we'd be talking about the saints and what she's in the starch Vietnam War off sentinel economically that's weapons. Which stills. Cooks in Colston. It when I don't know that pushes them to the number one offense in the league conversation but I mean I do agree it's numbing and that. A line up steals Colston and coach does sound. Much more dream it's him and I go back there's a lineup if you take it on the same page with your quarterback. And what good is that liable could is that in terms of having the talent. Can he still always happy are you can't it looked there were several times at the same reason why to a degree. Joseph Morgan might have been let go last year one was let go last year because the fact that he couldn't you how many times did you see him. He counseled by Drew Brees after a plate no I was expecting you'd be here you were here saying things went on with Kenny stills. You can't have neither is certain at some level. And week thirteen of the of this season as a second year pro you shouldn't have to do that and if you don't conform to how the saints in the breeze which it operate in office and see you later now and Denise Howell and Ari how good is it to have you around. And Kenny stills and it's no man's defense Kenny stills brought up. Some very good numbers ending injured Brees when they dig connected there is some funny stat about how they were actually like when they deed. Could complete passes to Derrick. They were the most successful duo. And the and tired of Elvis go man I go back to what I laid out earlier where. This all season. What Mickey Loomis and then made a few picks in a few signing that if you moves that are wrapped. That did not work out obviously this offseason was about trying to grab value in Kenny stills he got a draft pick you got a player. Think you got to my I'm not sure about money part now develop lower B though to meet he was the yet they isolate that. They got to money barely restructured Ellerbe ballerina and we'll ask the guy that was the ice team. On the cake to be right it was more about the draft pick in the cafes in the may be Al because you are light at that linebacker position may be looks like the guy. From Baltimore BI did that's why in my day a long way if being influenced by a -- are some of the bad apple the bad apples stuff and down like you said not been able to get on the same page major breeze that's like Kenny stills. Still many else. Art through everything else Saddam is just think in hindsight and food we get for that absent. TJ Williams. Now PJ waves in the third round by the way he was put on injured reserve today he was at their rounds of the fit my dominion swarm Ernie Tyler Davis in one hour guys that are David the IR gaming it's one so right now you look at Tyler Davis and what his roles going to be awesome yeah debt. That should be at this like well. I think I was right on one's impressed that 06 class this one. And you were put the cart way before the worst year yes it's also crazy but this one that has the makings. If we're to talk about potential snowman. This one has adapted to because of how early these players are gonna Richard yes I mean you look at step on it any key cot Tyler Davis and aside from dangerous Pete. It was it was not be doing is sitting in the third round pick in a deal without the benefit for a got a good run it yet but underneath it no you get to guys that estimate contribute right away. That's why you say it could have an impact as in 06 clots. Well it will look they're gonna have multiple starters as rookies in their front seven and there's got to be growing pains blah. If they end up being the players at their projected be could be really did the guys think about a Christian by year number two. These guys are gonna feel like you know they're gonna feel like vets right they're not did this game will slow down. They'll have taken a full season worth of wraps its kind of what you're seeing on the college level with LSU now. Where they have the mass exodus. A talent to believe bred cattle the guys leave for the an appellate forced a lot of freshmen and sophomores and action before they're ready but now. You'd expect getting experience to pay dividends you got a ton of returning starters and a ton of not just Talbott a ton of experience. Now. Marcus Colston saints go into. The season with some unproven players a wide receiver. You have faith in receiving courts are pretty jet warping applause line when he's happy to elect on 7% saying yes 30% saying no. You can weigh in her online right there had to be a real Cabrera also miss them from the Sudan since Tuesday so at 1878 tech city seven eights and for the record. Prove it I'm kind of proven mood right now. Listen and look I'll eat some crow here. Just five days ago less than appears said Willie Steve's not make in this roster now ought to today's. Transaction. I think he's pretty much it at least I read it looked like Jay Josh Morgan and Willie Snead that to a that is doubled into them yet I'm Joseph Morgan's an. It is crazy to me in the U mortgage thing but I recognize your argument about the steel says that he offers now it's different ages. Never as a player been talked about so much equivalent fourteen catches it and I felt it was here. It's your numbers. Double coverage geography that well. Double coverage and real tibia politics he's right it was DJ Williams third row you're you do go to him involved SEC India. So I got this he had such a fever pitch offseason with trades with the I get the three hindered the big Grubbs. Trade a little confused and Jimmy Graham so. Yeah in in in essence they got. Third rounder. From Miami. And an analogue. That they got a third round pick for Kenny stills you know horrible that's why you mean that's what he moved him right there than. Rules to draw value when he was a fifth round yet combined with the other reasons combined eight definitely influenced by the other reasons but. If your look at name from kind of a you know by itself point right I mean you increased. His value the value said from fifth round today and getting to third rounder and now. If TJ Williams ends up being good and he's shown some signs. During his pre season. Then yeah that was wholly justified in today's NFL you've probably a good quarterback. Over a mailing wide receiver looked a little. A look at what there with their charge was to it to revamp that secondary revamp the offense once so they had to move the talk about it they've had them. You know pieces. Did you get for grubs I am complete freedom of the grove street Wear kind of war Iraqis they got to the got a fifth round of that thread that the extra Padilla. Came for a again in that fifth round the SO 148. And an eight member they got my chemical is a freeze too so basically swap cards. We Kansas City and got a draft pick and by the Clinton faces even as one of those swing and your office. Like this is my point though all those guys high value assets bringing in players. A draft pick and with every single one of them freeing up some cap space so they all hit. Those three parameters of the saints were looking when they kind of dated assessment of their team. What do we have that other teams will covet. And that we can use to our bands to try to figure a way out of this puzzle that we've created for ourselves so it it's a bold offseason. You hope that fortune favors the bold. And unfortunately sometimes. Reality. Can be much different. Go to Nextel could you talk about the saints roster moves today down a 75 players also. You saw you've seen so many the last 340s. Policeman getting killed. The big manhunt under way currently right now. Would you want your kid to be a police police woman. 260187. The text that 878 and we ask the question all time would you want your kid to join the military but I feel law enforcement officer. 26018 semi tech state 787. 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