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9/25 6am Tommy Tucker, Pope tours NYC

Sep 25, 2015|

Pope Francis said, “The yardstick we use for others will be the yardstick which time will use for us.” Do you believe that’s true? Did Pope Francis’ speech touch you....and will it inspire you to make any changes? Also, will any of the politicians in D.C. listen to Pope Francis’ message to come together or will they stick to partisan politics? Tommy talks to our friend Fr. Jim Weiss, Associate Professor of Theology at Boston College.

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I'm David Blake now it's Tommy Tucker WWL. The yeah I went on dot com. The I think is appropriate and us little saints. We are playing them handers and I think it needs prayers just business and it's also appropriate because it opened. So this. Is the United States. Ultimately feels pretty soon. Yeah you're you're you're at all four hours on the phone you know I. Oh let me see how much we had here on your experience the Cold War our ROK. On the whole yesterday's let me tell you saw this I love them home letting me he is missing a lot of endorsement opportunities he could've gotten half a billion from via billion think all easily. Then. And in yesterday's news that. And I think the but I think this Anderson he's moving yardstick we use Brothers meeting yardstick which time we'll use barajas. Added that point. Out of pulled up yardstick from Home Depot. And here's the catch phrase put us at Home Depot you can do it yourself whenever I'm like god save the game at Home Depot. Nancy get a lot of yardstick money a lot of endorsement money from Home Depot right. Any get net Fiat get have a million common at all. Saying we always go to church you have money in a collection a sure. So wind that back off and collection and get some endorsements. The hope now getting into his Fiat 500. Known for its excellent excellent track age attracting and tremendous mileage good traction isn't here so. So the yardstick and hopes that we use Brothers will be the yardstick by which time we use for us would you guess means that if you judge somebody else that's how you're going to be giant now it's Anderson and the potency bodies at a time. And we do you believe that's true choosing someone examining and did the pope's visit touched. And did it inspire you make any changes now. And I mention any names and had talked about stopped going to church it's not going to church. And had about. Yeah I am a guy as we can say about it later. He's more okay resolve knows it won't harm that that's what you stand now is to save some for later on top qualities later it. It's. Mom. So you know I it's not gonna church and and I got a nice letter from. A religious leader that said you know. He's cared about me and and some other things and when I took him a letter was pursing need do is get your behind back to church so why did but then when I was watching the pope's say mass on nano. Thursday may be used as a little problem we don't know I don't think there's any need for an. Rod charges have been. You mean as there were journalists who were at every stop again and another match now now now he said Jesper is last night arms and a mass care. Com but anyway did the Pope inspire you because I could see watching this mass and and here in the media just so in love with the Pope where. I think Wolf Blitzer in. Who's the other nine. The white haired guy Anderson Cooper yeah it doesn't matter. Like you give your name and when you do the new. And I'm one of the guys doing the news under the W. Gushing saying Anderson turn around he's right here is Anderson Cooper apparently was or will somebody was watching a monitor. So has C inspired you to change anything in your life and I think the big question here is will it stick. Or will you just get all into the moment and then next week it's going to be like Aaron back to business. We'll find out won't come back to talk about the Pope a lot this morning as well as the saints and also the water now. Seriously David the add an overweight lady here but the boil water advisory has been in it lifted but I think. You know they probably got some of the water that they said you had to boil between. The water plant then and whatever pipes in your house so lightning dubious Smart they know run the water. Remains yes it's that in the advisory go ahead and run your water for compliment yen in Colorado pipes argument back Tommy Tucker David Blake. Other really doesn't matter in Shelden Williams all with you here. Am glad you're with us hope France's continues his tour in the United States and as those as I was watching a sedan but you know would really make the Pope seemed like he was. Com in touch with the people get on one of those red on and off bosses in New York. And the math could be turning around and tennis in New York thinking keep me. Where Battery Park is just seems like and rightfully. Funded Jim Weiss who seems to get me an associate professor. Of theology at Boston College now they get off here. Can I get back gonna go to the statue of liberty I go ago and is thank you. Tell me on father perspective. Probably. I'm glad. That's that's what they pay me to do father now in terms of bum the Pope and his visit first question I have is. Why is he touching do you think so many people here they talked last night about New York being and if you've been a very cynical city. Suddenly seemingly a at least for the people along the route a different mood reporters saying different mood. In a very Sioux. City, Iowa is that is it is about what he's saying is it about his persona both. Yet if it is it's both I you know there isn't there a comparison that and other. Dollar through and I think it's really true that when we spoke to a ball. The spot in the spotlight was on him that Pope John Paul was very much about his own personality. Pope Benedict was always about the text that he was reading the message that he conveyed. Whipple printed in the focus really is of the people around. It waits at against the Pope Paul on John Paul the second was all about. Pope John Paul was about themselves in Pope Benedict was about the text he would. In front of him in in front of him that he was reading. And Pope at Pope threat that is so clearly about the people around him he. He he he likes people equate it to crowd jumped all in the same thing. But job all like to absorb a lot of the the the spotlight. The Brent that is clearly not comfortable the spotlight but he really enjoys people. So I think the reason people respond to him is because he's about that bothered the Pope. Yesterday one of the the I guess the them. Headline quotes if you wanna call it that the yardstick we ask for others will be the yardstick gold which time we'll use rugs and a lot of it is like a movie where you seen this like while would be great post Brown's statement profound movie Bullitt and juicy. So explain perhaps what message to focus trying to get across. All Kelly. I think that was. Direct reference to the golden rule all he he built up at the very middle it is speech actually geographical middle of the tech. He says that all in dealing with social issues and here in the Pacific wood burning. Two of the immigration question he said uh oh we've looked remember the golden rule out others that you would have them do you view. And of course that was very strategic because as of version of the golden rule every person in the world. All of and that was the line on which he got his lucky applaud the laws so I think when he says that you have time will be the judge. All. He's he's not appealing to ineptitude he's appealing to be better angels of human nature. On. And the other thing which yeah have you been in effect he doesn't mention a bit much in this speech I have noticed that but during the break. I've written to be in your absolutely right. Well look very strategic is that most of the time when he mentioned in this speech he's quoting another American. He quoting Abraham Lincoln another American all of it really chose to talk to Americans. By a by reading the message on board major American figures Abraham Lincoln and mark king. And two others. I'm an interesting that is motorcade whatever you call a pass by at the trump building on Fifth Avenue last night and he and Donald Trump I'm guessing him and having vastly different. These ideas I guess when it comes in immigration and Texans and says I think the Vatican needs to be less restrictive on what immigrants they allow in after all the of the most restrictive process of anywhere in that regard. They should be more open immigrants and refugees most countries practice what you preach I don't know any that means but is that true war. All the taxes that it has it has taken in a refugee family all of but as you know the Vatican is. I think it's about sizes in New York on. It is the Chinese state in the 109. Acres all of but the Pope and at every parish in Europe to take in the family. All of which we choose you know which is certainly putting the strain on the pressures involved which is like 500 churches. On. Law that it didn't quite I don't know what kind of housing stock is available. In the it is a very very tiny enclave but. Yeah I mean he has issued a challenge to the European bishops saying that you know every parish. In Europe should find that we particular refugee family. I get that the you know the Pope is leader of others and a lot of Catholics in the world be a number fun. Number Catholics and are yeah yeah yeah it figuring at one point two billion bytes of spiritual leader one point two billion people. And I understand you know get an a Fiat the issue humility but. Hum the idea here's on trying to say father I mean this with all due respect to the Pope it seems like. A lot of what he says appeals to a lot of people boy when you really look closely not a lot exchanged. Are they I am hearing you hear that from time to time and and I think that there's something there that column. That that hit that change is that it came in told in style but we're still waiting to see concrete results within the church. All of that is that priority he has has strip has been eating at the Vatican finances. Which all of let the other the European banks were about to shut down the net thing. All of the second thing is be over real corruption in the central government the church. Which is huge task because he's got his own bureaucracy would be against him in many cases both have been the two priorities. In a row on the other priority has. Putting that worldwide bishops of noticed that the message about the poor it's not about. And that it is about all of compassion and dialogue not about dictating to people and judging them and all of you follow the guidance or. Yeah well but but. Would you pay that much has changed you're right I mean the organizations have taken place yet. He says he wore a very strict policy of against child abusing treat said the bishops who tolerate them. But. There's no policy in place. It's been two and it appears. So that. He is still very much a work in progress but I I think all in I think his constant stress. Compassion rather than judgment. Is such a departure from the last two popes. That. If it I think it's shaking up the church and that's the way. We're out of time but I got to ask you before we go to news when it comes to. And the question tests this that my mind completely but I can't believe this happened. Oh. Go ahead I got over yet. The last thing I would say is that what what people are picking up by the visit the epic is really crucial if whatever he talked he says we need a dialogue. And in the word dialog appears a dozen times in this speech to congress what we're really hit home was in his ought to be Catholic bishops of Washington. He said. Look we need to listen to people do need to get out there and talk to people instead of just telling them what you think we're telling them what the church teaches unless we are in dialogue and conversation. He says. If it's not been a better well what what we think people should here and there is no real reversal. Of but wait the church has been. Be taking under Pope Benedict the model but few where the truer. All of and I mean that what the model but that that a slogan but. But. Frances has made it very clear that he bit that we need to listen even to people may disagree with the profoundly. And that flight is uses the term dialogue about twelve times in speech yesterday. Really shows that he wants to hear other people and eventually spend a lot of time going around talking to very ordinary people. And I don't think the radical. Just getting it was a joke about listening to other people thought I appreciate you time RB have a great weekend. That you could mean I've pleasures always by the gym my associate professor of theology at Boston College so I'd like it did talk T of phone lines are open. Let we don't censor anything song you don't curse has the pope's visit. And pardon me moved you are not a navy cut college you can make it changing airline fares as Nina I really assert gone back to church. Or are you tired of the media gushing about the Pope do you think. They lose their object objectivity when it comes to. In this man but then go after perhaps your political party. A little too much do you think their bias that ninety affront in any fewer different religion. Does all of this offends you war inspired you. 260187. So the pope's trip continues. And you know I noticed yesterday and John Boehner the speaker of the house makes no. I apology doesn't try to deny that he's very emotional man and he will. On occasion crying at one point early in the speech the Pope said god bless America. Any dead at his eyes nose and talk about the the speaker not. Not dumb not very Aaron that no I mean that the Pope are all so. So here's the deal. Palm with the Pope saying godless American I would think the Pope saying god bless America in. House cheaters house chamber that was full of people that be a pretty emotional moment that's about as strong as he gets right there it's pretty god but. I notice that is the Pope calls for unity in that chamber. There was partisan applause Democrats went crazy when he talked about climate change about immigration. And about dumped wealth. And helping poor people yeah not so much from her Republicans when he mentioned. The rights of the unborn the Republicans went crazy all Democrats had a silent exactly so it was gone up up and downs just like they are REM just like when a politician gives speech a couple of questions for in general take the breaking call me and tell me. Pope Francis said the yardstick we use for others will which time we use today. Will be the yardstick which time uses for rusty believe that's true did Pope France's speech touch it. And mode inspired you to make any changes and he think any of the politicians in DC will listen to Pope France's message to come together. Or will they stick to partisan politics. And are ready jaguar opinion poll asking you what do you more passion about. The saints or the LHU tigers we would love to hear from you on that is well 2601870. The Pope. His visit continues he'll address the UN today and then. Which by the week in stream will be streaming it'd debit WL dot com you figured there. And enhancing man's benighted Madison Square Garden which is by the way if you never been a New York. Round. That surprise a lot of people to go to New York for the first time anyway. Do you do you think anything the Pope. Says. Or did while he was here will change anything on a big scale. Or is it relates to you personally on a small scale it it made me realize that I wanted to go back to church in and led that I did. And a free you'll be at any point were you emotionally moved by a move by what the Pope. Was doing or saying urges by seeing this man. And if you were do you think it will stick. Do you think after a couple of days it'll be idea that's right he was here. And I don't young is nice of him in my opinion goaded the address that the legislature and congress both houses and guests. But when you. When you look at what he said. And the partisan support that was evident in the applause I thought they told them before hand no clapping because they didn't want. The Pope to think he was hitting on one in missing on the other. But it is like a presidential address. Did the Republicans sat on their hands on it and like he was sane Democrat Saturn and hands one is the Democrats did not appreciate or approve. Of what the Pope was saying. I mean when there were some big applause lines like the golden rule godless America. Naturally everybody jumped up. And I just wonder if I couldn't help but make the comparison as I'm watching TV last night. The pope's. That would be column in the Caribbean the the in the motorcade passed right by Trump Plaza on Fifth Avenue. And I just got to thinking about well for so they vastly differ on immigration but it one way they had something a light. Not that the Pope is strictly a political figured nor is Donald Trump religious leader. But in that they propose some very simple solutions to some very complex problems enemy it all comes down to will the world cooperate with them. May need he said that he required go to the Vatican is requiring every parish in Europe to take in one immigrant family. Well if you are Catholic. Would you want one or two immigrant families in Europe parish and would you pay to support them. Because the Pope as the leader of our religion if you happen to be Catholic and I am. Says that should happen so what he's doing it is taken. I guess a public function making it a private function. In terms of support as. So many times you for politicians say have faith based organizations. Can handle it better than the government and well. Would you be willing to put up your money put your money where your heart is. And sponsor some immigrant families from the Middle East phone lines are open NT six O 1878. Tough question for me I don't know what I do sort of talked about the boil water advisory that is now been lifted Allen off ya. On a restaurant or a business how did it change for you did you lose money as a result of an eerie given. Change your business operation for you you losing money in Oregon and sick of it. A text comes in and says the fact that these refugees refuse to help themselves and ran from their own country. As they train and arm them and send them back to fight their own battle. I would say about that is the you know and a movie red dawn was remade. Couple years ago people were think and we you know one man's way to keep your guns and and I might gun guy. But they think give you if you're serious and you think that you're. AK 47 year one or even your neighborhoods. Or your rom shotgun went Hinske is gonna repellent invading army you can yourself desire to come out guns it comet planes and rockets and and bombs and tanks and so forth as India and has signed a deal whole Lotta good. So in terms of of the refugees I don't think it's silly for subliminal kind of weapons they have. And I think it's a little shortsighted to say they should have stayed and fought because if you living Canner. Now the sudden there is an army bombing houses and and shooting rockets at people with helicopters I don't think you're gonna say there with you family and fight because. Is this is. The giants is weaponry that you can't begin to resist and that's what happened to them. Now as far as arming them and sending them back the problem is. Their loyalties could change. And all of a sudden you got the enemy armed. With. Advanced weaponry that we gave them. And I think if you make that case to arm them then that means you can trust them and they are not terrorists or looting and trust him and there at terrorist by when you let a man. To the country and given some safe haven at least that's a way I see it I would love to hear from yet at 260187. And sell. We're gonna shift gears and we come back talk about the boil water advisory which has now been lifted. Buzzing about restaurants about offices about schools about the extra expense of this because. I gadget to bring an ice yet to bring in water from somewhere else which if year cook in our providing water for a lot of people can get rather expensive and bottom line I Regis fed up with this and it's like are you kidding me in a city like New Orleans and everybody went to become spend your money here and do business here. We can't keep the water claim. Calming and come back Tommy Tucker debit or be well.