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10/6/15 9:10pm Double Coverage with T-Bob & Kristian

Oct 7, 2015|

Everyone's talking about the illegel bating on Monday Night football between the Seahawks and Lions. It cost the Lions the ball game. The league says the official made a judgement call, but acknowledges that it was a botched call. Are you buy what the the NFL is selling? And should the official that made the call be held accountable?

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Rock and roll out our to hear double coverage. He got a Christian hang out see the Monday Night Football game last night to win it for the Seattle Seahawks. The tour lines falling to oh at four but a controversial ending Calvin Johnson. Has the ball punched out by camp chancellor going into the end zone. Balls up bounding around in the end zone and here comes. Seahawks linebacker cagey right he taps and out of bounds. Seahawks ball right wall after the game we learned there's a rule against that illegal batting. Now allowed to do so in a flag should have been thrown on the play. Given the Detroit Lions the possession of the football. Inside the one yard line. Their chances of winning that ballgame had that happened. Was like in the 8990%. Now. But instead it goes back to the Seahawks. They milk the clock game over Seattle Signet two and two. In very much in the thick of things with the cardinals losing on Sunday. A drastic I guess turn of events for both of those teams. Seattle to a two alliance and Ellen for more ask you is there and it can be done he RIT about. Dot yeah he entered the agreed on what is or anything can be done. Maybe prevent this in the future or how do you make it right. And do you buy with the NFL sell you which is. The back judge. Didn't feel like it was. A an obvious attempt. To backed football out of the end zone. 5042601870. Text and 87870. Christened Covington you're on double coverage on WW Chris. Tank without. Congress. I mean. He would keep talking about what you would what needs to be done or Arnot percentage in the future hurt you know potentially adding rules are rules which is just redundant. I mean you just an official visit any academically at a business and. And that's about it some of them do it the legal but he wants. You know you don't want to. It organized by referees because they're in and really taken my fear is organized I mean date they are. No I mean I look Chris I think you're actually right I think this is human error. A bomb I don't think this is something that you legislate for that on the you'd go into the rules so I don't that you really can go under the rules of the gets a big it would be an overreaction. To do so and I think as far as penalty goes a suspension. Where you would miss a game check may be that is you know maybe that is Warren and see I'm I really another man I'm right in their Chris. Yeah but that's a problem will be NFL really and I OK let's in this they apparently finally spent I don't really care they don't do anything to the I used mistake Nazi I disagree because of players. There at the professional level. The players defined the gates and I bring your terminal if the field issues of viewers they don't help heal the nation just fine for illegal hit. Idea that that entails and make a lot more money fine OK but maybe you don't find them but I'm all for Chris said hey you're given a one game suspension. I actually don't you feel that passionately about punishing. I think it was a mistake Osce I think they don't know that you take no holes let let's go look at the whole rest game I mean did he call gave game otherwise of their multiple glaring errors with the justice one. In the gives it all all of that into account. When judging what to do you hear and I just think it is human error a peek at the end of the day. Why this causes such of this raw reaction of people widening phone line genus or the light up excellent or crazy night. Katie keep of the trying to keep of the conversation. Is because we want justice who appeared as when equal playing field by. Reality of life. That sometimes they can't beat that. And that sometimes things and unfairly and there's nothing you can do to stop this thing you need to go back and change it. And that may not really be anything that you can do to prevent potentially from happening in the future. Because how do you prevent somebody. From not knowing your role and or interpreting it wrong glee as the NFL so. Ellis you taking on the other USC this week in the venue. Still economy in question we'll have David Klein jerk. Right for the state and go gain Cox dot com joining us at the bottom of the sour pretty jaguar opinion poll on line for you had to be to elect I'm sure the NFL allow officials. To review all plays including penalties to about that I feel passionately about that. The answers nobody can weigh in online at W dot com or call survival or where does Iran want a seventy. Texan 87 NATO he had me even at some point they made concerted efforts to speed up the game. In the last five years so now and it's slow it's never yet and now it would speak to if you add those possibilities in two Hugh definitely a slowdown in the game. The you've spent a lot of effort trying to speed up. Well that we tell my judgment calls you're talking about asking the rest to. Make judgment calls in real time at full speed. And then your hang in over their head that you're going to be able to review those baseball with the ability of sixty frames per second slow motion. But once again that's not a judgment it's not a judgment call as to whether or not a ball and over that it's not a judgment call as to whether or not the tag. He hit the player before it hit the plate like you can clearly see that replay. You can't clearly show me if that was pass interference on replay or not or that was holding on replay or not. I think it does not mean that I it's muggy it's mug it's very it's very clear out. But what if it's like a little bit like incidental conflict could maybe technically under the rules political year. I don't think it was enough to war radical. To judgment call and that's why you can't review it. You tell also where you stand on this tenements cities impatiently waiting Euro on. WW WL I have. How lawyers today dude yeah. I am so glad that you guys. You know that's all and so and such a great aunt of my two questions. One what one has to do is this mobile. I feel a lot like a lot of you know people watched BJ. And as far as Ike upcoming games are also the but you didn't Wear it use that old old. ID like it is probably. How can do that season and yeah lot yeah and and and and my other course news their record for the right. I've I was pretty impressed with. The way a lot of rookies performed. We know that night and if we continued to regrets at the law. Happily go silly and allow unthinkable and that would be. I what happened and that that the partly or you know. Relief relief. I guess it's man against dialogue between rivals and my comment is this. I feel like. The worst case scenario. It would at least go stayed. You know maybe to win or. You know I'll gory. Didn't until the last seven game would be. The I'm one of those people who feel like. They may really help you very honestly you're very optimistic Tammy look. I agree with your prison yard T Bob agree with the Al is not my head. But there was a while a lot of encouraging things you saw. Out of the young players in particular. Step on Anthony a whole week he cot thing played his best on leveraged against the current filers in his own had it's that the problem I have is that you're still seeing some of these inconsistencies. From veteran in mistakes from veteran players. And they're still there in the rookies as well. This is and they had you wanna talk about a lot later we get into the things discussion is. Where should your expectation levels be it what is it gave me in the grand scheme of things. And it just it depends. Kind of spiel about. Eagles in the falcons before it's Agassi. Won just slowed down a little bit. Take it one week at a time enjoyed his cowboys win discussed is cowboys went. Get ready for the Eagles just like. Focus on the smaller. Short term more manageable picture. Rather than trying to pick out we think can make that enemy last it's so far down the road in I don't think the answer has changed. There but but but you do feel what has changed is it now you have a lot more confidence going into this game with Phil. Tim thanks for the kind of words reversion rows upon to to a John uptown put that freak you need to a 504260187. Talk about the illegal batting playoff Monday Night Football it dominated. What was otherwise a pretty good play of really good play from camp chancellor. Look we is there a way we can pick to go Ford r.s one of those things that in the you have to live with it to judgment call. 260187. Tech seats and the ten on Twitter at T about 53 at pershing Garrick it's double coverage WI MF and knock out. Politics line at 87870 about full in Iraq for me that's for sure I occasionally try to get took a bullet Texan. Far one back at you but you can weigh in an 87870. Or calls a final four to 60187. In back to the phones we go let's go to. John uptown it was a good call by John. There yet. You know have Galati. Formally what NATO so that app quality. Used to say. From a pretty nice thing about. A ritual the PLO Tony gave the benefit of the doubt. But did on the democratic only. Coach in deep well collar that you vote crude problem to attack. He will keep the day. The helpful and they're open about yeah well for a problem. He will keep this thing you know that's one thing about a virtual all the good entered bit. We asked what it's like you'll I don't understand the owners in the wind there it's over my. All it. Means they're. Those two things anyway. It. And evidently many things a bit and apparently you know. The well the coach the Miami doll. That we had had it not great year. And we were put it in Miami. And one of the last plays of the game we call for Patton a prayer Indian down. We had the lead Miami is all on the one or they win. It was an atrocious call the replays showed that there was no car that much what he wouldn't that there was no combat. And and I remember being told you know what it's a judgment call. You know what that's one of the great but the sport is George McCall part of the game. I did I actually completely agree with you man I I like the I like the idea of keeping human error in the game but cage and look I hate slippery slope arguments because a lot of times. They are used to just diving. Reinforce kind of a logical points and ignore a lot of backs but. When you think about the game of football. What do you were viewed every spot of the ball I mean how close with the grass really be would you be of Ford happy are now back Kathy are like. You have to Lal for I guess he's human element in the game in any does. I think it's a part of the game it's part of game they don't want to see completely nullified. So that I thought about is when you see this decide judge. Come one of the silent spot the football. Right or even on a punt that goes out of bounds EC. The white hat kind of directing meet the decides against a vehicle that and not as exact and I went out now still that that's I don't I nobody talking about. This is that far ahead I do think that we would be shocked if your viewed every spot. I think you'd be pretty shocking how close these rest did yeah I think to a very good job but it's totally. It's just always been very interesting that it's always referred to as a game of inches. Theoretically almost every spot would be off. By inches so I mean at the base level of the game you have at least a tiny bit of tiny percentage of human error. And I think it's part of the game and I agree John. Although this is unfair although this is justice. Although this is you know Seattle got a huge break in the lines did it. You've got to move like it is what is it the reality of the situation. And you accept it's hard on to a judgment call. It's hard for people who are religious. Dismissed it quickly because of everything that was on line because of the that is felt photograph jobs on the line yeah. Austin weathered out of the playoffs in my getting fired absolutely. It has changed. And you can't go back to Bob at Huntsville Earl in Kenner Rosen pot to to a David on the North Shore Jocelyn elk. Anyway this would have David Klein injure writer for the state and go gay cup game Cox dot com. Assad to join us as well talk a little LSU and South Carolina and where that they knew yeah possibly be my you played that enrichment if possible etc. so. We want you to your phone calls please be patient this will get to salvage what David clown enter go to next here on double coverage WI MF on the dock up. I look back at double coverage if you're hold hang with us I would thought a little LSU South Carolina. David manager at TC this state on toward a sportswriter for the state and go game Cox. Dot com joining us here on double coverage and first David are you hearing anything about the change in venue because of the issues with with flooding up there. A lot you know they talk about it could degrade exit is definitely a possibility. They're discussing everything did can be done at this point so we should know probably daddy in the business day tomorrow Wednesday. They play in Newport this game whether it's going to be Columbia. Or in another location for many years it could be back through which they did say it was possible. How does that sit with game got fans that could be played in Baton Rouge Buena home game. Well our. Fully gotten me you know that they understand the situation here it's obviously an enact the dot it's something happened here in South Carolina and you know it's early taking away from some of the regular thing they want to. Would emergency personnel with water that kind of thing actually being home game and and I use it is you know with the pain or not. I don't think it's really going to matter where the game was the point. You know Alex Hughes are really good football team it's South Carolina frankly at this point did not. So I don't know that it would matter where you played that thing I don't think it's kind of early Purcell that much. Yeah I mean and you got answered when I was gonna ask you would would too as you know what is the temperature towards team do people really think that it would matter. I guess what are some of the other options David if they war if they can't play in the gamecocks stadium that they don't do it matters where else are they looking at. Are you emotional it's obviously very constitute itself worked out on the very familiar with only an hour the road equate that he's in the opener this year in the Carolina Panthers have a bye week this week. The problem there is it seats about 101000 list. Then Williams Brice stadium in that there is an hour in Charlotte this week in which will select the hotel. Our situation during the thing that you wanted to walk up there what they did and not. May be a slight possibility but in the game you out now in team on Sunday in Georgia State it's in Georgia bill on Saturday itself. There's not a lot of other options don't think they will try to do that. Nashville Jacksonville or anything like try to play. Really think that the two most beatable opted right now. Our South Carolina and college Q and it's keyword. And yet they act to go to bat out hope that there would be proper. In return which the next the UT beat then it will be ugly for a. I think it's fair guide thing I've got to be absolutely Teradata data cloud under at DC this stay on Twitter. Sportswriter for the state by Medco came Cox dot com. And David in regards to the action arena to the team itself to the game itself. What what is up because I'm sure you all kind of talked about it time you might be sick of it's I apologize in advance but. What is the current situation which Steve Spurrier how does. How did the F letter higher ups field towards him how does opinion based field towards him and maybe. What's your early read on what he does you know after this season. Oh god and I did act that deck collection lives honestly all the same thing not only do whether he'd come and all eleven he sees and what they're. It here at two in pre. You just don't know what he's in the wake up tomorrow and say Ottawa did it anymore. And that would be giggling at you 100 authority. Steve Spurrier will not be fired its soccer I could not be forced out at South Carolina you'll be able to walk away with the walk away and I. I think he'd heard that yet one more game than anybody as to your bullet that the program's profile obviously people are not happy. What the way it this season and last season on after the after retreat he can viewed dirty anyway and that actually lightning art so. They're gonna let that he's in play out. You really don't want and then built in and and obviously our turn right walk away and you know. Matt likely. Yeah so be realistically. Probably. Just if you're gonna go. Data client your act DC this state on Twitter sportswriter for the state and go gamecocks. Dot com David good stuff we appreciate the incitement. Our problem our community very much. Interesting stuff there. But David Wright as far as you know the spurs easing that would Hudson authority does not expect spurred be forced out of makes in south Carolina's program. Really for over for purple that's been around for a hundred years has been here herbal. Throughout their odd years of that the only won ten games at one time. Previous to Spurrier he's kind of earned that he's there are indeed it is is right deal what now. They have conversations have been about Kenny for. You mind how it this way and millions sleeper how do you feel about going gulf stream maybe a little more you buy an innocent yeah. Did you ever played Augusta come. Oh I think it was in regard and I had originally it was a problem I think it was and is ideal body had been just a clause that. In their contracts you'll Holcomb and that was it beats beats her. With Thomas More steady ailing from a quadriceps injury is saints signed punter Brandon Fields also they had an offer to tackle Tony Hills release safety Kenny Phillips. And wide receiver Joseph Morgan. And Edwards is signing of Tony kills me we'll try to explain that coming up also we look at the film too loud and I'll do about it and I'll give you our thoughts as to. What you're encouraged about what we were occurs about what is your expectation level now for the saints with a 13 record after the win. 26 to twenty in overtime against the Dallas Cowboys. Should they be tempered all of that Ari how optimistic are you feeling now compared to a week ago sitting at 013504260. 1870 tech city seventy eights of the early Kenner rows upon to to David on the nor shall come before you here on double coverage W annually enough of an aka. Zimmerman a playoff update. Baseball playoffs on the parade which escorts them mostly nobody accuses after another what any news or. Are you happy remit to FaceBook face in the very. Scott gravelly coming up at the topic next now are intent on them more Allah issue and suck on August are a lot of respect as yet. Absolutely that is South Carolina respectively dealership perspective in the letter for that be on his way to another two yard performance against this very mad South Carolina defense. Other thing that we haven't really touch on and I mean you Christian. We did discuss debate on Sunday turner sings pregame show. But is at LSU game and what it meant and how's it affecting your expectations of the tigers is. Both distinctive tigers had a very interesting weekend and that boasts all. I think expectations shipped one in a positive manner one maybe in a more negative manner. Hats over reactive on LSU I'll explain after let them vote yes. Shoot who will get to that a little more on next hour Earl and Kenner you're on W we will hey Earl. Our guys are you do go in honor of. Well I'd like to. You might take that game yes. For all agreed to respect men and women who appreciate. How about them we even. Yeah I. Yeah. It takes an odd person who wants to go out there. And really don't like no one likes you you're right he boasts a well or are we not matter. Is that as a rep for re you open yourself up to criticism from both sides it's not like. One side is necessarily going to. Be cheering you Juan. Well here's your situation. I don't think they'd do it. Other then for the love of the game yes you know I played sports all through high school. Even know was fortunate to play a little baseball and college. And when it worked humble when I couldn't play anymore I decided to officiate and I realized. After reading the rule book how much I didn't know about a mile. And a you'll find that with a lot of even professional athletes yeah they're you know they're there. School on their position. Even some of the coaches because of rule changes and not. Completely abreast of move. Mile Earl will even though like declines. Were cheated at that moment I don't think about it I don't think it. Exit at the girl and let me let me just obvious though and am just play count point counterpoint. In yeah yeah. You know so yeah every. Call accurate. Put you know when you have a football games probably between both teams there's probably about. It it's still amazing that they use many. Correct you in the heck did not say. I know we can't. You can't. Rule on a judgment call stated in the judgment call quarterback goes back weather's all or fall forward. All it had. Dues keep it in the rules. And any way. That result in change of possession. What boos review definitely take this guy who's on the heel we've got to make a call 1100 per cent. Out of the equation. Now he's the only will the only problem for the views they are reviewed and that's we had a couple texts about this is well her own thing is. Their turnover. Was an in question. The fumble itself wasn't in question right the they said it was clear that the ball had not broke the plane. The ball is punched out without indeed being down so the turnover was an unquestioning controversy arises. From the batted ball which under the rules. Is it review ball so even though that happened on a play where he turned over took place. That doesn't mean that that part of the play QB your view bright it's it's. We we've seen this. Spouses has been and what we see this and other plays as well where there's been a judgment call juxtaposed with. Arm obligated to be reviewed. I'll do is obvious and look I've officiating gains at the global. Eyes light. I knew this part. Uh 00 yeah that's right. Talking that mean now it is. I can only imagine what about Tim Allen kids on a scale of one to in. Ways Kate on strike three call. I mean at least at a I can't talk on board not a dark early and croquet ball like naked gun and style crap. Even young and then it. No it was gaga put back girl for justice that it. You say you were saying you refereed so I I get that in terms of you do for love of the game and you were high school W leveled and back in but. 1520 bucks a game perhaps at the NFL level that's their that's their profession that their job. They're pros they're the best of the best so the expectation level than not know the rules is far different from a guy. And officiate on the weekends earn a collection box so we put gas in the car food on table would have. Well it is now in girls have been so I think he means that every rap he's not justify and missed call. I deem dozen points out more that every Raff. You know kind of jumps in this thankless job because they love the game now some are good enough where they rise. To the top and you know and others to stay on a more local level book regardless of yourself when you. Sacrifices your time to this you do deserve thanks Ed thinks you don't altogether because. With that use sports literally impossible in fact one of the problems. That a lot of the LA just say eight is facing right now. Is an inability to attract enough for a freeze. Which then leads to lower quality referees Woodson over lowers the overall quality of the sport itself. What are your expectation levels now for Ella issues surviving. I guess surviving. Winning over eastern Michigan. In an unimpressive fashion what are your expectation levels now because. We you heard about how this is the team that was in the running for a national championship they can naked make a fourteen playoff college football playoff system and then. Conversely the saints with their win 26 when he over the Dallas Cowboys almost need the to win the game twice are you more encouraged than you war. He meets just one win but there were some bright spots. And it was a disappointment relish you have some bright spots for the saints but. Where your expectation level now for both of those teased by the way shout out to Tulane also winning this weekend 260187. To 877. ATF. But but but then too there about two. He appeared to Mary to intolerance stretch everybody's undefeated the next four games play additives are the holy trinity won. Saints LSU and tooling so rare occurrence would Altria went on same media and we'll Cincinnati's saints have that total coverage. Here on W annually in. A we don't have our odd that. Rose invited to look in your Honda VW well. I Christian church not. Would you apologize at the dot net is back out Sunday at that aren't we cute would that speed. That's okay that's the chaos all ala Christian has access to complement. If you're if you're. If you're putting me at a time Manassas category than on the good look that's a compliment. And oh yeah like he did that in house now and really that it is very honored. First of all I usually don't agree with. He bop idol tonight either okay absolutely I agree with what Earl. Like that understood how well. Okay wait till I understand though what did girls say that you agree with its iPod hi agreed with the girl to to download it. The official end you know with all the plays that they direct and not you know. Keep that they're gonna miss one and I'm really understand how I tell whether we agree that. A advocate. The play happened. A friend and my marketing game that I'll note that edit stroke play that got batted ball back Ian bell and she kept blind okay. You gotta Smart football for in their rose because she called and I did not opposite ears on the OK and on and like you and. My outlook comment was it the wrap up with the judgmental call. And let it go to this we're trying to shield before the game. Well. Actually done. Rhino shield now I know it's great plug no absolutely I I'm not saying that the ref had. Good judgment. I'd just say that it is indeed a judgment call that a look. At record yeah. Well here's the thing. Potentially now this may be a bit of a reach if they were to get to one and three. I that changes that could they changed a lot for the psyche of a football team. Look who look right here in New Orleans that Drew Brees said that win was validation for them via iso and for alliance. They go to Seattle they would get that win one and three and if they don't make the playoffs. You come up money out of my pocket they're not panic about but if they were somehow won it three. We will make the playoffs. Look isn't going to like this when no clue or you don't have to calculate that because the bottom line is this is a league were re always talking how the smallest beings make all the difference in the world says something as big as it. Dwyane and a loss of course that's a huge impact regardless of your records at the time. My point is somebody's gonna end up paying for it to the lines have a bad season is it Jim Caldwell is at the offensive coordinator is that the defense according kind of the point being is that the GM. So this loss albeit just one could be. Will be at a serious ramifications for team that. Ultimately NFL to says hey sorry tough luck. Nobody but what do you want him to do and I know I feel roses frustration because. Like I said this cause a very this raw reaction in people because it is in justice right it's not. Technically fair but I just don't see. A bomb how do you address this without becoming too metal some I feel like already. The game is borderline. Too metal some. Pelicans radio play by play guy text me says you on the ride home settle sucks and no pressure there right. Who would shock and yet there's Joseph guy. Let me struck a levee some pelicans as well Christian as you know you. I've been go out there passed away lately you've got to we indices of the net against that guy out music you've been. And I just wondered what was coming at I don't know freedom and creating an awkward honorary. Head back February 9 to. Because I don't expect absolutely loving it in diving head first 100% effort into. But this is on hand and dripping off here and here. See some. She did good things out like what your hearing out of him as well maybe you'll see for midnight madness kids. Does relevant during football season nicely here at the end of October army where we are less than a month away. And they should both get started man and with what I'm hearing out of the players now to coach Alvin Gentry some strategic changes they've made. Defensively and that even look at the stats in that first priest he's gaining never read too much into it. They shot at 67 shots off in the first half alone so they're getting Lincolnshire Indian violent entry sell all the already so far this far. And it perhaps for all the talk often to ball the most inner adding interesting aspect. After his first week of camp may actually be what's taking place defensively. For the pelicans where. Not you talked about as important as pelicans were an office. They were equally bad on defense and that was supposed to be where Molly Wood and his great great that's supposed to be where they were supposed to be green they give up or wanted to do any that's what fans point to as to why he should be fired when we're gonna come absolutely and they get they give up more points in the paint last season anybody in the game with the exception minister timberwolves. And that's with the instant superstar Anthony Davis took over washing down low. So get into a little bit later but already the pelicans have addressed this and there's a plan in place to stop this from taking places sees. David on the North Shore you on a double coverage on W did you like David. Monetary out of subtle issue right now what try not trust you know Ole Bob as much trust REIT Warren. The Warren report saying war. They tasty to the well kill Kennedy you know. The end of that poll also multi billion dollar industry. Operations. They hit a couple of law is on the line. All day and norm these are currently publicized gains but not. And I'm not talking about every call on the ball in the middle game I'm talking about specific issues. And they went away again and rushed you call last night so the greater economic and thought about it but that's too much. So much money time on TV right. The commercials. Since these are at stake right. So if they outlawed on the phone. That knows. The rule book in our research real quick break and assault that is. Well here's the thing NFL that you and the ref should know and so should. The ref watching it deem land keynote now New York to David's. Point. May be used to make under the table. Where you have a guy he's kind of watching in and did you ever really be gay registered up for got a role he's able to get contacted them immediately but I still. I still dispute the fact that I wanna make it a fallout. Official replay so I don't know. How you make it different than other judgment calls do you differentiate between. Coming on next Arlen LSU will saints who makes the two together. What are your expectation levels for the tigers and the saints going forward. Two different weekends for both of ballclub to 60187 techniques that need to double coverage rolls on this is WW well.