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From three WL. All the sports food and fun. It's more outdoor whip Don Dubuque. They're talking about hunting and fishing and all the things we love about the great outdoors. Culled through six so 6368. That's 2606368. Now fears euros Bora Bora outdoors. Don debut. And I walked back into more outdoors at each and every Saturday morning right here on three WL WW WL thirteen fifty radio also alive streams nationwide. My web page down the outdoors guy that count think tuning in this morning coming up at 8 o'clock it will be our. Regularly scheduled hunt fish talked program while Johnson and memorabilia a couple of though Louisiana outdoor writers actually fellow antley eighty members of the outdoor writers association. Join me to talk about issues that affect you this quickly in the talk about. She could current title this so you wanna be a fishing rodeo. Director. Or chairman. A lot of people amassed on me about that about putting on fishing rodeos what's involved in an eagle but doing it so we thought we make that. A program about it and give you some advice on its Billy Crystal balls good idea to do. And second of all if you decide to do and how about going about deciding how to do away and hold it. What committees you need to structure the categories. Of the facility is a lot to putting on rodeo or tournament. And will look at it from every aspect that's coming up in the 8 o'clock hour this hour Larry Reynolds from the Louisiana department of wildlife and fisheries I wanna files study leader. Rejoined it's very important item that has limited shelf life while we are under the gun to make a decision on whether we wanna continue. With our current quarterfinals loans are east west and coastal zones or. Move to aid new proposed waterfowl hunting zone setup. Which would basically take the east zone in extended down to southeast Louisiana includes incorporate some of the cold present day coastal zone into it. And move that. And shrinking the size of what is now known as the coastal zone. We open up our phone lines and notes a little bit confusing particularly election I suggest you get the map in front view as would discuss in this. Go to wildlife and fisheries website it's easy to find you'll see Ian on the home page click then on. It will take it to the map go to my side technically listening wanna use while we stream. You can also. Take a look at the two for both sides of new proposed site and the current. And is also some descriptions mine roads and boundary line exhibit may give it more accurate depiction. Of what US mystic exhibit area will be included in. And then make a decision whether you would like to see it changed on the same. And you can vote Omar web site in the got a very unscientific poll there but while I think fish uses an extensive survey. In an outreach effort to ought to follow on is to get the opinion of most owners. Before they make his decision. The department on the Larry's leadership will go forward to the commission meeting. Which is the first Thursday in November which is right on top of this. They will be asked to vote on and we will that was it for five years which of them that decision is. So will rejoin Bob clarity to like talk to them a couple ways to do what you wanna simply send me a text to pass along limits at 870870. It comes directly in the must do deal or call us at Bible for. 2606368. Would be more than happy to talk. Larry welcome back again enough thanks for that the quick explanation needed. The Cliffs Notes and proposal that she did just a few moments ago we got a lot of time now also if you would. Maybe get more into the specifics of those boundary changes what would be different under the proposal. As opposed to the current what specific mining areas in what summit at the pitfalls and challenges as well as the benefits would be. If in fact we make this move. Okay calm. Focusing first on the change the proposed change in southeast Louisiana. What would happen specifically. Is that all habitat east of the chapel choir. From the junction of highway ninety. And the cap online order down day east bank in the chapel river and the east boundary. Of the ship while wildlife management area. Everything to the east of there would be moved into the east zone. That very similar where the boundary was from 1975. To about noon one. And what we expect. Based on historic ease and he is that that area would move to slightly. Later he's and he. Arm that has began. The that dominant theme in the public comment over the last two years the public comment that last year convince the commission is that the he's in a week later. Then help them yet had proposed. And the outrage this year when the commission set the heat and days a week earlier than LBW proposed. We need. We made this proposal for discussion purposes. Because it is all coastal march it is is that coastal zone. But when we talk about zone that. Then name really has no significance. You know that the old west zone ran from northwest Louisiana. Oh wait to two the Mississippi State border in southeast Louisiana. So the naming it just the convention there's no. The reason that that coastal areas have to stay in the coastal zone. But this change is significant. Because. There is such a variety of opinions in southeast Louisiana. There's a reason. Why that part of Louisiana with moved out of the east zone in 2001. I'm sure some of your listeners have talked about changes in migration. Mallard typically a late season migrant no longer migrate in the same numbers to southeast Louisiana has been in the past. And of course there are those physical differences too. The north wins in the load tied late in the season blow water on the march. And it makes access. Difficult and that those were two major reason in 2001. That that part of the state. Was removed from the east zone and moved to the west zone. So they would have earlier season. Plus we die hard stated we've got harvest data from the US Fish and Wildlife Service there random selection of hunters. To participate in our surveys. And we've got back check data at a (%expletive) alive they'll appoint and Salvador and hassle interest. That show we feel a lot of ducks early in the season. I'm not only on a total arms basis but also on upper hunter. Basis. The harvest tends to be better earlier in the east and then it later in the and so they're. As always the debate wouldn't be how they have began. Over the last decade or so it if there wasn't some reasons for having it that way. And it will be a big change this will. On the east zone opens this year on the 21 of November where the coastal zone opens on that. So that that the two week period. On the front end and on the back. And so that fairly substantial change in most years it won't be like that in most years there's only one. Between the opening of the coastal zone and the east. But that is that the crop and that the consequences. Of making that change in southeast Louisiana. In southwest Louisiana. That the proposed change revolves around concerns of the right industry. They've been talking to meet with for well over a year. About moving the coastal zone boundary Al can highway fourteen. To put a large proportion of the rice growing acreage. In advance when paired Jefferson Davis parish. Haiti appears north vermilion parish to move back into the east zone. Again for the purpose of getting later opening day so that the rice growers in that region have another wheat. To get their second crop right out and get their lines prepared for the opening day of the ducks. That I was fourteen boundary initiated. With folks in the right industry. Buys in late September. At the Lafayette and Lake Charles public meetings. They sort of changed their mind then and instead they wanted to even further out to the opener of water. I happen to note that. Rights promotion board. And the Louisiana writes growers association. Have recently passed a resolution. Supporting that boundary moving even further out to the Golf Channel coastal water. And so in both portions of what is now the coastal zone southeast and southwest Louisiana. There are fairly substantial changes being proposed. Those changes that have consequences both expected and an unknown. And now. The department. Is is collecting public comment on those things just to have. Operating work out what owners are out there thinking. As we move forward. What the commission decides ID I can't. I can't really anticipate. All like in news provide the best available information I can't. And I'm here talking about this and we've been talking about it for the last few weeks in an attempt to get as much information as we can. Very good Larry we will take a break here we come back if you can just kind of give this convict him of what you've been hearing so far I know you've got a lot of feedback from the honors. In what you're hearing on both sides as I guess the main consideration is that each zone whether it be taken away from the coastal zone. Or whether the included in it where it is right now is the current. Map shields and if you wanna take a look at it you can do it on the wildlife and fisheries website you can go to my website. Also if you wanna ask Larry a question or telling your suggestion knowing your preference Bible for. 2606368. 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Now fears euros Bora Bora outdoors. Don their beer and. And those phone lines are open if you've got a big question is any comments or your opinion do you like to have been heard though Larry Reynolds in Louisiana department wallets and retrieve water files suddenly it is with us he's been kind enough to explain in detail. These choices that we are faced with his wanna follow on is actually the commission will make the ultimate decision whether to stick with our current three's own. Lay out or go to the new proposal which on this and changes there and if you joining us late you can see it on the map. At the department of wildlife and fisheries website don't go to my website down the aisle to those guys that come. And click it on and you'll see it there were also given a very unscientific. Our poll on my page to get some information just from. In general what our listeners feel about this. Our Larry I got a couple of text in one here wants to know is it possible that we could do more than three zones. In other words could that east's own peace split in two may be in northeast or southeast. If in fact the runners in the southeast would prefer more of local schools own range and all what it is the simply. Move the calls on back where it was a best case. We have choices. As far as the zone and split options are concerned. We can't. Have war zone no more than war zones but we can have war zones. Yeah we have straight these. So if we implement a structure with war zones in all of those zones we have to have a straight. Sixty days. We can have up to the resounds with split seasons which is what we have. Or if we wanna have to split in this season the way Arkansas and Mississippi view. Then we have to have known zones at all. We choose three zones would split season because that gives us the maximum flexibility. Force adding he'd and he in particular. Regions of the state. And we've done that in the past we could have opted to zones were split these and so since 1975. We've we've chosen as zones where it. Which split Eason arranged. And so those those there those are choices. I guess the thinking from US fish and wildlife on these four zones that you can no longer have split. Would be that a lot of people would jump around in the on our effort would be higher because people would have more. Choices to make with certain areas being open when their areas close the US survey always has shown that very few on his actually hold multiple zones and correct. That's exactly right in in fact I've been confused. From passed on her opinion surveys. I'll wide 35 to 40% of our hunters. Wanted to have knows zones wit which he split. Because on it statewide basis that that doesn't make good sense to. Because that means under the northeast Louisiana would have to sacrifice some late days. So that miners in southwest Louisiana could have some early days. With this sixty day. It's not that big deal but but just think about that with a thirty day he's. You know we had five or six years we had 38 seasons with three bird limits that would be terrible for us. When I realized when I went back into those surveyed data and realized. That over 80% of the hunters in Louisiana. Only in one zone. Then those results made Morse. The Fish and Wildlife Service. Offers zone and split options and states take advantage of them to increase their hotter participation. There Connors satisfaction. And their harvest. And so without limit. On the number of other zones and split. You can imagine what would be the ultimate the ultimate would be. Each individual hunter had his own soul. And so. They're they're needs to be a line drawn somewhere. As far as zone and split your concern. To control heart missed. And that the Fish and Wildlife Service is the is the one in charge human. Larry I've got to know that takes in this is a little bit off topic that is certainly deals and waterfowl hunting in obviously this on hasn't been out awhile wanted to know we still under a the hundred points system. And if in fact if not if that could be brought back do you think all of us and then again what your opinion on. The people that don't recall that I guess Aniston may be an eight pieces we did that we had a hundred total points in each bird was assigned. Oh points and when you broke a hundred you have to stop funding the Benton didn't matter how many virgin and as long as the point total Canada. Do you think we'll ever see them again in in in your opinion. I I don't think we'll ever see it again. And I am unhappy about that I wasn't continue to be a big supporter of the points system. The points system allows hunters that can't I can't buy dot very well in the air. To go hunting. She didn't. I don't buy it after they haven't been there and and then. And then know whether they continue hunting. War not. It also fixes a lot of things that really messed up part duck season. A lot of hunters remember the days we had thirty day visas for entails or thirty days he's an expert Candice back with in this sixty day cease. We had certain species that were trying to take hunting pressure off and speed he's we'd like to see more hunting pressure put on. You can do that with a point system without changing anything else. And so I am a big fan of the point system but law enforcement is not. Absolutely not. They look at. Three Mallard and she would not and they say well we don't know whether that's a legal pack or not. Because of the order is important if you kill that hotly Byrd first or that high point Byrd's last. It can change the exact same bag of ducks to legal or illegal. Biologists doesn't care. You can't re order to 100 point docs and that's what we're trying to do is to keep pressure off. Of those high point docs and focus in on the low point ducks. So I am one of those. Old. Rare dinosaurs. That really like the points system Ike I think with this. You know look at our regulations now no more than four Mallard of which no more than you can beat emails no more than you read and it's no more than two entails. No more than one model ducks no more than three stop. One year we keep guilty stopper part of that these new ones stopped for another parts that these. A lot of that can just be washed out. By using a point system. I don't think we will ever see it again. Because of that. Because of the relationship. But I'll just have to have with law enforcement. To may reasonable rule. And that's something that's coming into this zone and split argument as well. I've had some emails from people wanting to know why we can't use a parish boundary. Or why we can't just wrong line in particular parts of the state. And that's because that was mine are not very enforceable. They're not clear. They're not easily identifiable in the field by them hunters so that's why he's he's he's. These zone boundaries boat. Old and proposed. There waterways. They're roads. There are things that are crystal clear on the landscape. I Larry Octavia on the does not point system I'm all for it I think it allowed us to take advantage of all species who had really good healthy populations and while I was actually take more ducks of those. And back off on the ones that are in trouble on was a big proponent of it like it that. I'm like you I don't relentlessly again. I I agree com idea when I started my. My post graduate work at LSU I came that Ellis he did he might be HD that was my first research proposal 25 years ago. Was to look at the difference between harvest under the point system and harvest under conventional banks. And I actually proposed an experiment where. Places states that have public hunting areas where owners are randomly assign the blinds. We were gonna randomly assigned hunting regulations to the line. So we would have guys running in the same area at the same time. Some running under conventional bags some funding under point system. And and that steady guy. Culp talks completely. By the US Fish and Wildlife Service because. That relationship. Between. Biology and law enforcement in setting hunting regulations. It was clear from day political standpoint. That. The points system was gone. And I haven't seen any changing of that added he'd over the last twenty years that I've been a professional here and we. While would have loved to have seen the results now what do what a great idea that was then variances system Larry. Stay Livni was gonna take a break here we come back on Glenn's got to comment forties on line one also take you calls a Bible for 260. It's all right viable for 260636. Say almost sent them them them get a mixed we'll be right back listening to more outdoors three WL thirteen fifty race. 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I he will be making a reported presentation to department wallets and fisheries commission on the first week in the memo leads to fit that Thursday in November when they meet. And whatever decision they vote on we will be dealing with the next five years. As slow as very important Florida follows two contact clarion and there opinion her contact you commissioners. Larry we have line calling in on line one Clint thank you call your own Larry Randall's. Hey but to outline chicken and I just want to voice my opinion. First one that thank Larry followers could work on. Been consistent with good works. As just people that grew worse. Coastal zones on up. Our voice our opinion. And keep the current zone. Migration. Through. On this pretty much fuel early January. And before that usually at the side effect that comes in the play also. We can't really animosity you know open an elated in November 14. Man. That's pretty much. Would like the sense of and laptop. I didn't worry I appreciate your neck Lynn and and I appreciate the kind words. What one of the things that I have heard in this public comment on you you ask in the last segment about. One of the things I'm hearing. Starting at the public meeting. In Metairie that we had and an expanding through this public comment. What I appeal is some red and from most southeast Louisiana honors like act like I just heard from land is summer and then. To being in the east zone. Having those those leaders seasons. But that the did change that the commission made the here by by moving east and dates on the second Saturday which this year was November 14 to the first Saturday. Which is November 7. It is they're worried that pat is going to be the standard operating procedure from now law. And that that he had this commission is going to continue. To open that he's an on the first Saturday in November then we. To move to the east now that's that's one team. That I've heard. In the public com. What are you here and from the ones up in the northeast part Tuesday. Are they afraid that the south east honors are gonna have so much influence that'll disrupt the their preferred dates. From those I have heard from in in northeast Louisiana that is recite it. They're concerned now I haven't heard from bury me hunters. But. But the before five that I have heard from they're concerned. They're concerned that. They're the largest majority of the hunters in the state of Louisiana. Hunt in the coastal zone. Our 2015. Survey showed that almost 60% of the partners in the state of Louisiana but the coastal zone. So if a large number of hunters spoke in south east Louisiana. And in the right growing regions of southwest Louisiana. If they get incorporated into the east zone and they find out that. That the late fees and they are. As good as they thought they were going to be and we do you have a history of that happening. Remember 90000 to win the extended framework pact so that now we could hunt until the last. Sunday in January instead of the Sunday January 20. So we've already seen. Some. Disillusionment. We get how when thing later is going to make our on thing so much better. And so those the northeast Louisiana that are hunting in the the flooded woods that typically don't get water until later in the year. They are a little concerned that putting a large group of march hunters in the east zone. May influence their season dates. So. You know getting back to loop of the possibility of the four zones without splits. Is that a consideration. Is there any research in what studies show about the benefits and haven't a little period of rest will we take a break in in between those splits art. And in one of the social considerations Duhon was like that idea nor is it is it just psychological that always given the ducks arrests and really. It might not have any impact and it factors like weather might be even now more important factor in in whether the birds come late. Well there isn't any research. Because. As I said earlier from 1975. To 2001. We had these zones with split season. And since then we've had either you or three zones with split season. So we don't have any experience. Whip we using nose zones with split or using multiple you know three or four zones with knows split. It is primarily. And you heard me say this war on I'm glad to have the opportunity to say it on the radio. That in my opinion. And it's evident all around us that waterfowl hunting regulations are not strictly biological. And they are not strictly. Hunter opinion and and socioeconomic. They're always a combination of those things. And we have chosen ourselves and split based on. Those. Those combination of factors. If we were ago he knows zones. Which he split. We can't maximize the number of weekends that we be right now. Because by splitting the season once we can open on Saturday closed on Sunday open on Saturday Sunday. If we get a split we have to open one of those split on Monday or closes on Friday. And so. Also a that are here in different parts of the day. If we go to teams split. The whole state had to have the same season dates. And that means hunters in northeast Louisiana. Have to give up some early days of the owners and southwest Louisiana. Can have some early. And so we are making art elections not based on research not based on harvest we've not done. Good science. On those kinds of things. Pat and we're also considering the fact that we're in the longest. Wet period. On the prairie breeding areas that we've had in a very long time in decades. None of in 1995. None of this would've expected. To go to 21 consecutive years with liberals are strictly. Net it's never happened. Since we've begun this quietly based cooperative process of setting hunting regulations. And we know we know from the habitat changes. We know from the amount of water that we've seen in the last few years. We know that changes are common. We just don't know and so really big factor in our selection to the title within five years. Is how is this gonna work out. If we have to go to 45 seasons we have to go to thirty days he's. So we really are basing this actually. A war zone with straight seasons are resounds with split seasons are no zones with two split. Based on our perception. Apartment success and so socioeconomic bowden's. Those particular structures. Very good Larry if you stay with me when we come back I got a question about splash and it's it's come and you'll get to that and also tell us. Exactly what your presentation. Will look like that's specifically what it is but what will the commission expected here for you when you make that presentation. 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Then you can email or call Larry Reynolds who was against this morning in the evening European you know what you would like Agassi which Hewitt choice whatever it is that the commission votes on. We will be bound by the next five years. Larry and a message came in from Jeff listened and home splash limits I gotta confess I've never heard of that cost I excellent. The splash limits are simply hunting without worrying about what species. You issues. It's something that's been proposed that yet you have to remember that I've I've only been a practicing waterfowl pilots since 1983. But the Atlantic fly away. First it was the first time I ever heard of that win when we were talking about going to fifty and five and sixty in six. The Atlantic quietly had a proposal and no. We don't wanna do that we don't like this HM process that it seems too complicated. We wanna leave mark he's an app forty days. And we and we wanna have a fork out limit with a splash and no species restrictions. These days the state of Nebraska. Is is very innovative. With ideas as to. As the how to increase participation. From new and young hunters. They have they have gone to the Fish and Wildlife Service with proposals for. What they're calling it two tiered license system that a parent and circuit while light and and he can hunt or 74 days. With. Bag limit of six and all of the species restrictions the rat is in the central flyweight so they have at Newport date. War. You could by age eight a different kind of light and that allowed to only on for forty days. With a bag limited three which you can shoot any three docs. And so those are those are called black women. Well understate the proposed having them for the use hunt. You know during the you'd Sunday let's have a bag limit for but the kid can fuel what ever come spot you don't have to worry about no more than one Candice back. No more than one model. No more than three stop. And so that's what splash limits are about. They're they're Arnaud splash when it's being implemented in the United States right now. So that tells you what US fish and wildlife services attitude. Towards splash when it. Got a very good explanation Larry discount to wrap up oh what. Formal your presentation B and when you walk into the commission meeting in November. We just walked in and say look here it is Islam waterfowl Holmes told me I had X amount of comments for the current. X amount for the proposed do what you want why is it going to be much more involved. It's going to be a little more involved than that you know you already know one in the long we ended gone. And not and so when I go in there and I'm in this. This many unique individuals comment because obviously some people get me comments on more than one. Of those zone boundary proposal. I'm gonna tell in the unique individuals Iman it held in the number of comments that I had for the change and against the change. But what's really. What's really interest thing is the is the alternative. That hunters suggest when they're against a change. In southwest Louisiana regarding the right field moving into the east zone. Probably half of the people that are can spit. Are against it because of what the boundaries bar. Not because they're against moving the right habitat to later he's in dates but they don't like the boundaries that were proposed. In south east Louisiana as I said earlier on the show. A number of hunters are saying. Please keep us in the coastal zone by. This season shouldn't open it any earlier than that second Saturday in November. We want the traditional. Season dates and stay in the coastal zone. Other people. It's suggest alternative boundary. You know they want them home and that's better than the chapel while ripper or they want to carve out. Terrible and look who perished. But keep parts of of Blackmon and Bernard care think Bernard parish. In the coastal well. So they it it's almost impossible to do if you can imagine but I've had some creative. Suggestions than maps sent me with alternatives. Some good layout some of those alternatives. That. That have been communicated to meet by multiple hunters. But mostly. It's it's going to be what you suggested this is that this is the dominant feeling about those changes. And I can tell you right now that neither one of those few changes in southeast or southwest Louisiana. Is an overwhelming. Choice. It it's. Very close in in both of those areas are home and and that's the difficulty in doing in doing this job. Is that. I'm trying to set waterfowl hunting regulations. Over a large area. He even if it's just the coastal zone or the west zone that's still of very large area. Where hunters in those areas have very different opinions. About how the hunting season they should be based on what happened and there's specific location. And that it's it's simply a difficult thing to do. Lamb get now a few more text in this one says that agreeing with you the data shows we kill more ducks the first split. Late season produces no water and Smart ducks. And few honors great framework this year that's from captain how we duck guide. And then I got a compliment in boy you missed the Larry is an informative and great radio guest thanks for having him and I hope he becomes a regular feature. And that's not from anywhere in New York home me. Why I appreciate that I appreciate that a lot that but. That's actually compliment you because you you know who'd get on your shows that these I get your listeners. Well you'd done a great job in you really bend over backwards to to have the give the opportunity to the Hondas and if they don't. You know have their voices heard they got nobody to blame will tell you this you you mentioned that it's his run in pretty close and this again is very unscientific it's just a always throw out tomorrow listeners and right now and has been running about this it's about 6040. In favor of the proposals. Yes. Yeah I. The feedback that I'm getting and it it's not been having gone. I I think that still have less than 150. Public comments regarding his own change. In southeast Louisiana. And it's it's much closer than than 6040 I don't know the the exact. Numbers but I think it probably. Closer to two. He would be. To took forty. It's it's very close in the in. In the feedback I'm. Might be a tough decision for the commission is Jamaica Larry in the meantime as somebody wants to get in on this before deadline what is that deadline. And give up the telephone number and email address against of the economic officially contact you with their official comment. I need to have everybody's comments by October the thirtieth. I've got to summarize those comments have got to put a presentation together for that November 5 meeting Seoul October 30. Is the deadline. And email or call me. My phone number is 225. 765. Zero or 56. Or my email is Al Reynolds. At WLF. Dot LA dot gov. Both of those pieces and contact information are attached to the press release. That you will get to. On the front page of our web site that LB debt via web site. And that whatever most convenient for you. Leave you voicemail send media. An email. And we'll and I will include your comment in that primary or November the fifth. Larry thank you very much for making yourself available to sportsmen outline it and also fall or do little walk on Tuesday. Thank you on the morning down. And look Florida next visit. I. All right thank you very much Larry Reynolds Louisiana department wallet and fisheries. Wanna file suddenly you have got the outlay is almost mapped a route there. Just think enough talk with you running buddies and find out which as the best in your application. And opinion and then. He's keeping his cross angle for the commission's decision. I coming up in final our bottom. Wendy Billy the by U elements of the army. Apple is she is going to be on location that he fishing rodeo I think she's going to be at the du lac community. Senator fund raiser called five by use fishing rodeo. They actually give away the fish at the moment based billion. That's on Moffett wrote. Begins at noon in the polls on the scales at 3 PM allowed Johnson's gonna join me in he's on the fisheries actually the chairman of rhetoric is committee. That I serve on that we can talk about. Briefly about speech records when heavily get a new recognize that that's brought in and we have an unofficial new state record top and if you want to an early this morning talk about that. I like to get the opportunity to refresh everybody's memory I don't think we element alpha but. What goes in to applying for racquet if you think you call records it to you most people men and with a record. Never dreamed they would ever catch one so that really on prepared. And the first call they used to make is wildlife and fisheries in that's not in this state we have very unique in Louisiana in this Dow right association. We actually maintain the official. State fishing records will get more in that but the main topic we're gonna talk about unfinished talked. Is fishing rodeos in tournaments you think you wanna put one on. Well me and you might wanna rethink that after hearing a discussion we examine all aspects of putting on fishing contest. The purpose of it how you need to put that airport we've all three of us have had some experience in in both participating in them and also in a posting them. And there's a lot of misconceptions. And myths about what month mission so thank you find it very interesting. That's going to be coming up at 8 o'clock right here on three WL thirteen fifty radio next week week and a I have some of the explored the the gun repressed Smith's over it that it begun work on is to give you some tips if you haven't done yet what to do. You know you got to get yourself in shape the dog in shape for ducks it deals and get your own gun and shape. Yeah how to do that stick around we'll be right back after the NBC sports update and continue without fourth and final hour of coverage right here on three WL. Thirteenth it. And welcome it's another edition of hunt. Fish talk a regular feature here on more outdoors on three WL the third Saturday every month in idle time we're doing it by you woman Wendy the guy. And I'll johnsons of soul always an outdoor writer association members on some we talked about some of the issues. Affecting sportsmen and sports women across the stable Louisiana welcome to the show. Let me introduce went deep you know yachts eagles' bye bye you woman in the windy you on the bike you to memorize today your date them in five by you rodeo. Yes and that the poignant that I fishing Heredia. Do you weigh in is actually income. Fell on him on site at the air base. In a coma. Helping get everything that happened in getting rat. Little five by username what is that'll. I. Oklahoma there on Iran I've body's starting at ease with orange and and then by chair bound by an outcry. By grand try and mean and the westernmost byte at large it which is about outlook on. And this is. Any community effort to. Bring them in our bodies together. Is it kind of odd that they're all just a little background in harsh between each other but a lot of arm Perry chipped down. Chairman extra special either that. For the community effort to bring all the community together in but it also Andre or action that du lac community are center. Down on du lac which stands are. A lot of by immunity and and to do it one generally means that we have planned for the coming year to sort out fostered back. Jimmy unity solidarity. Very differently by and it is living in the column option in it. Challenger a lower. You are and number. Well it's certainly gonna provide some good ammunition for you thought topic today its auction about work and Allen and promoting in. Putting together fishing contest with the bee wrote fields and tournaments. Also joining us is Lyle Johnson at present Louisiana writers association is also the chairman of fish records committee. Log good morning human join this great weather. Good bar culture. My pretty we've got a great round here we've. A weight problem do you could hinge on efficient out couples filed by users and got a chance he's fresh the wall wore a lot trees. How to battle appear happening giveaways. Good more. Very good. While law wanna take a minute too while you're the fish records as the chairman the talk about that sketch that was made there is it's really exciting it looks like it's going to be a good catch goes it's still one official does point until. It passes mosques and I'm talking about that big. Topic that was caught it will break at 22 year old record. Caught by missed three vote down in now and Graham by U burial for grand I'll. 2466. Kind of eclipses the old 230 pound in Manila a record fish is caught. It's just reminds me that we don't talk enough about records and let people know about we keep the records as opposed to the state agency. In all the it and hoops and hurdles you gotta go through to get a stay erected adopted some let you go through that again. And in and tell folks what. Missed supremo will be doing in order to get his fish officially recognized. Well you're right on you know we we did have discussed that topic go preview show. You know we are unique in the fact that every record and association. Well. Refers to has all been taken care gain interest in the usual what I stated and they only keep that proper and no war and we keep warm up routine in which do hold all 40. And should stay in a record books. A long period of time. When you can probably greater opportunities and how much help would be a lot. It definitely. Well we care for them. Number one page book Hello World bill literature ignorant it's a lot of people and so. Chances at all those people who traditionally you know double walk and record book callers call so they're they're going wrong and they made these. Applications were about anywhere on the B got a hold of occasions and feel about with the mangled. Outgunned. Finished beat these weary. Gail. Unknown world. Scale and you would fumble application which certainly built already trees yeah that's not a usual sometimes. I'll make your application through before. Weeks regularly because we do about sixty days after the care actual poster which we record to that quite general. And alone and he you know fish biologist will examine it put him informational. Check off. Ruled Creighton and follow mall it into me and didn't immediately. Or what they. Where it is tenacious. No challenges script in which. The result mention and so that's pretty emotionally process. And of course there is a feel process and see which is pretty much nominal ahead. What is it. I 25 bucks yeah well congratulations. To him in the in the crew there and you're exactly right that was another bowed out then some of the you know. Place holders in the talked and category war also out then has been some really good vision but you know the availability of the the more moderate they handled that of a problem because it was late when they got Ian. And there was no way down that was they can actually go on line and download and print out the other but that's not important an important thing is. Get debt issue weighed in before it loses weight. In Quetta witnessed by a couple on nonpartisan. Witnesses that he can sign that form when you get the point. Just saying that they saw what the wait was they actually sent me a picture of the upscale. With a wave on an. End and a beautiful Russian orphanage. Yeah is not required and also they got to get that certification from the biologists that's very important. And look like sixty days allow for the process. So that's one thing people don't lose need to do too much as panicked about trying to hurry to get application. You can get through with an interest to witness to weigh in next they attribute them on the application. You know it's not it's not like it's full crew should all about connection president. The moment in Atlantic you can do a lot of the content insecure application. Anyone that needs information clarifications. Questions while on the contact Lyle he's the chairman animals on the committee and welcome the contact me. Until medical facility advocate newspapers wells real horse who writes for the sportsman mag. I'd very good on fish records let's get to the business and end the business of fish and rodeos you know very coincidentally. Right after we decided to talk about this. An inquiry in. From one of my fellow co host Mac no more contact me and he had a request. To help. An organization put on a mission rodeo sought told Steve a civil before you make a final decision listen to what we have Tuesday. Because probably what I will tell you will be a lot of the same things will be mentioned on his radio shows Ottawa these cuts on the listen. But it not a toll could go back it was replay on the wet side but you know I get. Contacted. Very frequently from people I guess because they umi promoting new attending. In serving is way master and on committees fishing tournaments in rodeos that I am a good person to talk to economists consult. And the first thing at tellem won a lot of times I'll just Alamo on the phone a few things in. If they're really serious and they want now try to scare some on the ball with their group and meet with them. And explain it to him. And the main thing I try to tell them that the concept of fishing rodeo or tournament. If you've got to look at it like a business in you have to have a business plan. In the put it in the simplest and before I get in any details as a way to look at. First you have to project your income what you revenue was going to be in ticket sales raffles donations. Any kind of way that they sell and food and T shirts and had what did you projected income. Then you take your expenses. Cost of materials via the rent places a high security. That is just an endless list depending on the way The Who what when in the size of the rodeo which expenses will be. Then factoring in labor in kind most of the time and and volunteers and you'll actually pay people to the service committee members. But once you get your expenses in your income estimates. You do a simple subtraction subtracting expenses than income in what's left. Is edu profit. Warning if you don't. Am as much income as you have expenses and you going to revenues oh loss and that's a simple business practice of any business. In looking at a rodeo tournament nor rating while rodeo as that that's exactly what it turns out the day. There's also some other factors in ways you know some most people wanna come away with a some money for benefit. Force Pacific group calls an organization they wanna uses of on race. And that's certainly one aspect of fishing contest. But I Owens simply one is an outreach. They may not make any profit they don't have any salaries that day. What they wanna do is get a message across about their organization maybe promote people join membership in and contribute in that match. That's called an outreach. Others they just want camaraderie a lot of these school while not. Yes they would like to make some money and some do they do very well others barely breaking even. But it's it's getting people who went to school together and Rick classes back again and gives them an anti meet up with each other and go fishing together. In Aminopterin. So does various reasons for duke in the eighties and you got us where you organization. It's in. In this so many things and play around Wendy I'm gonna on his overview because it's got to be freshen your mind get involved with this bodies vision rodeo. And tell me a little bit about your thoughts on. Building a rodeo from nothing away you know IDs Barton what do you tell people. Well it really careful what I it. And I'll say anything negative but although a lot it was in the morning and I certainly don't want to get into trouble for the day. It. This was the committee that I'll have to come on it so I would. By no means in charge. It's been a learning process for me as well. And T hear you say you duplicate that says is meant. What. What I struggled in that regard is how in the world do you project. Your ticket sales. Because this year can't alma ticket sales of fun and so I think you might buy yourself a hole. So what city as a major benefit implanting a righty. Is getting. Sponsors. Especially it's fun right there or non profit. Here corporate sponsors. Going to be your bread and butter because the end is the ticket sales don't. Come up to what you were hoping or anticipating in your cleaning you won't be and you aren't. Kiki and the any outstanding debt that is speak. Academy. However it helps sit here. Committee knows something about fishing ideas and Peter clean wonderful work are pitched wonderful war. A committee can also be back. But its market that I am learning data in committee if you can tap ideally. One person. Who is your expert in every area if you have one person you'd really get it. At a kindness corporate sponsorships. They and put that person in charge of that and no matter how many. People that person that helping him that's the way it actually can't be to have another person who is really coordinating. That saves. Because here today you know we're going to have. Freedom for everyone who bought the ticket where he's pictured on where those the group at church in matters that are well and or you know drinking their on site jambalaya and then I volunteer to do it today and there are also floating debate. For the premium. I would say take any and all donations stake taking care with that in mind if you have someone who's there. At gathering door process. No matter what that door prizes are added there can't object for a fishing charter org and we're not spayed or renal. You know put that part and in charge what apps on the Wii and is in committee. When the committee's two large. Or not too many people have expertise. You waste a lot of time and a city in nuclear waste to do you delegate to the people. In that particular area things get it done efficiently and make it done much more quick. Very good gonna take a break quick comeback Lyle gadget talk your opinion also may be contrast between eight tournament in rodeo. In May be trying to help people figure out eat eagle one would be the proper choice for them to make or none at all listening to hunt fish talk about that you can along with the by U woman. When they've Ilya while Johnson will be right back that this. Welcome back you know when you listen to radio program often here on calendars seem in the newspapers in magazines and T and TV coverage to all these rodeos and armaments and the average person probably figures in some Odeo is like and now. And I'm south as it meant round almost a decade. Must Beagle that must be making a lot of money we see a lot of people out there looks like it's been in my million and a good time while we eat a little rodeo and the same thing. Well this morning when he billion out the by you will be allowed Johnson itself in the common talk about some of the Austria bodies of putting on such an event. And also dispels some of the myths about how much money you can make and how much fun you can have. And in Libya got a tea right now I have actually works best on its way allow in in in cousy guy she's coming clean house they take everybody's money's on no from the but this nation side. Lyle is very familiar with Baston is like you know bass tournament is is a misconception. About how much money you can make a thrown on them benefit this time because just like a rodeo. You got a lot of expenses and you gotta have prizes and you gotta have organization weigh scales and publicity and all the things for rodeo but in the tournament these guys if you want a successful tournament at a pace some of the money back. Cold hard cash which is common in the new entry fees. Your thoughts on some of his Wittman talk. Paul. I'll have opportunities. To do bull rodeo and by turn for being involved term director. Rodeo. Sent twelve either. And then he export lead he has traditionally you would turn out you'd expect from the citizens or later you know because. You know you know perhaps because number. Cute contrition and you're right you're a hundred. To neutral. It's a lot of holes war. Picture of what planet one. But you know you give trophies too cute you treaty and build though Joseph laws in Oakland. It's great days great thing but quality group that looks a lot promotional recruitment sports league and eight communities out. But like Tuesday. Back a terrible and I patent Lotto. Almost finishing career and you know you don't really know what goes well on the screen you actually take formal it absolutely has been chair on the cute you won't use a little bit about it but my first watch and it was. Oh on grade school play call now you know drinks and field work flows into action we I'd put all world. But bastard won't and a on trickle out playing well not ignorant from trying it well one thing you. First call was one of frequently talked about Google didn't commit. Term director which quote. How big possibility. For all about them and upper east this year that they you know trot their home opener can handle and that's why. You have. Committee chairperson like when you talk about you Cha who oh with one look at their expertise to do it's a lot of war in the weeks. We are here today. Dropped him way and that's the law dictionary exposed. You know it's big on the traffic in the turn look. A term outlook talk about your out. OK. So cool you prod them. One big thing. And that she can do is spots should this bush took to make helped you make 100 you do. All of two entries fault whatever organization you know in the near future wrong spots reform and generally that's the wrong you know who were attrition particularly you know produce. They could sit back pace it sent back. Whatever it you know product the good enough for. On to attract what should know. You can. My but the site YouTube and here's what you can actually begin to move toward a vote. So. Magnatune. It's very important how folks in the right place in the picture nobody takes all border Mexican him because it is all work and sponsorship at all. Were important and you can do England not on board we have a big reason. Dropped way and so you know there are. Chair in the way here and drop and you know could go more people guns get out old ladies and volunteer problems and coordinate portable and you know it kind of check in police and people there and each plate should vote and they drew back for the way. You know Leo Durocher mayor communes but it'll be a biased that you know you lose about everybody has Leo. I don't bail out here that you can't get through this together and use. Spindler who experience mailing out. You know it is this society. Conscious of broad view for anxious little bit different because of a cash and mall you'll. What you pay him back all of his should trees and one of the most important is that the rules committee you know a lot of through a lot of still go and vote. Tournaments where you entries over on the go somewhere and moves they've been. Blake and Taylor and maybe a couple of the women. Things might be I. I'll. You know he's got to go into the overall global where you'll happened and he popped built in this country. Time it happened. In. That keeps. On the full hopefully it does oh well could use global term. Yeah you know you're talking about the polygraph field as an expense there everything you talk Marat does an expense for a lot of people don't realize that. All of this is his expenses that come away from income and affect your bottom line. You mentioned the big saint Jude's tournament you know they had the one of the saint James bolt launch know what happened there and I still have those today finally go away because it just warrant process. You know that was. Our children's miracle network oh run to them and you pays your. Stop it who earned. Notre organization. Physically challenged cool. Intrusions. Perhaps has taken that BO. I don't think he'd do without Simon Jenkins anymore but the they're dangerous. Quote got the tall order commander of the decision the makes a way helped by. Getting together and in connection you know you have to to a projected income not necessary that you're not a part of it sure does so what you can do you know. You lay out those experiences that are actually in the the entry of people who who looked up profit before you follow both. You have to get a hold most of what convenient. If you decided where there. Kind of the children's miracle network. Live Hewlett foundation and have been moderate organization. So I'm just who effortlessly toward. In the should be. And crucial. Boost governor goes but he moved Pulitzer in the air cargo PP. You know loss of one key person like that can mean his success and failure. Of an event you know another one that has come on who's actually change beneficiaries over the uses of patent. Got to tell you probably at the most active volunteer chain of any of them that dealt with was the one that did at the Children's Hospital. You know it's now become Children's Hospital they had a different it was children's miracle network doubly before that. And they don't go read tomorrow's landing I don't know if that. Fits your plans for next year. It's it's tough it's a tough world out there and I got to tell you both I have probably talked more organizations. Out of putting on a mission event. Then have helped him get into today that in fact a list of some of the things that then I think you need to do if you plan on having one. I'll run that down in India wanna get back with you won the importance. Critical to get sponsors in the in what they mean and how you may Beagle about approach in response to see if that were with you and you fishing. We're talking about rodeos and tournaments the buy you will allow Johnson enemy gone to view Q listening to a song three W well. Thirteen fifty radio we also live stream nationwide. Don the outdoors guy dot com will be right back. 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The area to sit and it Gretna Gunn works in math yet up by the river the corner of third street in Lafayette phone number of bubble for. 3615. Fortune to win think guns think Greg. To radio or not. Rodeo that's the question we're asking ourselves in discussing this morning in the Buick and help you make that decision if you think it is is not used in Poland India. Develop the list in bring this out wanna meet with groups that column you know the basics of organizing. A fishing event. And some of the things that they'll need you might be able adds some things of this but in on these all could possibly be separate committees or. One committee committee undertake to a three or more of these multiple depending on how many people you've got a new organization that. You know you need to do first of all you need to get oh weigh station. You touched on rules you gotta have written rules and have to be adhered to. You gotta have somebody with wage scales to actually wait official reliable scale somebody has served as away master. Maybe even have some assistance then and despises him is decide what you wanna do with the page. Let those people who catch and keep on point you make a mob part of rodeo and feeling coComment serve them. Unita polygraph test you need someone from forced ample margin of probably you might even have to. Provide security. Then you got the publicity deal with that nobody's gonna come up they don't know about treatment etiquette and out there as much canned. It's cost effectively and using email and web sites. Radio TV newspaper any way you can get out there you also need a prize committee awards with in the neutral some merchandise. You can have auctions raffles to bring in money in the paint expanse of famine officials logo made him put on shirts and hats and and you need someone knows very trustworthy and all the money. You gotta have the money coming in you gotta write checks out the pay expenses on you need to secure the site. Make sure you've got a marine that's willing to work with that got ample parking and bull launching facilities maybe they have date wouldn't need the U participants. And then on top of all of that when you touched on this and I think it probably the most important is sponsors. You going to an event and it's well sponsored nip putting up the money. You got to give them a good reason abilities they gonna do it to generate publicity for themselves and they feel like in the in the opinion of some publicity out of it that they business. Which could come as a return office simply from a generosity standpoint they wanna see this thing take often. They wanna give people some good friendly competition have a good time and as one thing else I missed it was the entertainment. And held out there on music in that some and other and it expands. The list can go on and on and I'll tell you what exactly happened. In some instances of talked people a lot of fishing movement. It persuaded him to go boy into a little late in the business the way I'll look at it every person on this earth eats. Not everybody pitches and even fewer fish for competition. So you know I've been in in of the involved with the beast beast I helped formulate that which is. Vienna where people pay one price and make them get food and you got volunteers prepare all while gain. I've been involved with the walking seafood barbecue cook off in Slidell it was a benefit the community Christian concern. Big big success the eleven years have been working with that. The as a crawfish. Cooking competition where businesses. Put it teams together and they come out and compete at their own expense. People pay one price and leave all the profit that is a huge event which opal well in Boston seems. In windy you've been involved with me at the pot to grumble a few years we've been goal and they are very successful but did you notice. They get teams that cook at their own expense they've got a lot of sponsors that donate time and and other unit at a table all the prizes and as well coordinated but again well at the gumbo the food and you know why not deal with this year. Know what an. Affair that that gumbo that has become that conflicted. Yeah I mean really I wanted to check out all I want would be the winning team. But do you have to start somewhere. And would stop by fishing ready yet we didn't start our cash payouts are small. But they let's talk about corporate sponsors for it predicts another minute. It now. It's you know old adage. Nobody. Thinks it. You know people want something in return she and a special account terminal industry right now we were Cheshire. How many. Those industries where you know going to be. In other words that part of their tight right now Ella wasn't really the best conference could be reaching out corporate sponsors that we do it. Several other he would and what that want Nancy. To the fitness center art. Bank may donate that I think helping support to do black community dinner at the right community. Investment. However. If you can get there are donated and hang banners at the audience they're getting out. They at least want to either nine out on the monster board. It's all about taking it in advertising. So if you're going to put him on all printed in preparation has sponsors. Again at advertising and we've done you mentioned. Time lobbying and well I can at it right there. She's. Looking already. Sent out in the way. We found they rules and regulations. There. I you know in this area and we to rule and regulations that we adapt and down. This suit our purposes if we had one gentleman. On the meeting mr. Al Gore without him I really don't think this thing will be at X he's finished meaning mini. Tournaments a ball and fishing rodeos golf tournament. So he's got a lot of experience he has directed terrible. And kids you know that keep our and that director pat being the person. With the information. And knowledge. And you know need to be broken out and and delegate. All of the areas that need to be taking care. But probably week to talk about this as an hour we still would not cover every thing. That it takes to commit armed and ready and even one that's small it was a twenty dollar entry and when it out category. A kayak category and the ten dollar you category. You know we're not I mean our whole Lotta money out but it before it it. There might meet people are going to challenge that things. And you've got to be proud that your. You've got it seem. I'm actually copy someone else who wrote he'd have to think that every. Saying that might come up and you'd cover it at a time so there's no question. Been reprinted Albert well. In a professional work and when you buy your ticket. You've got the regulations right there in the brochure and he said that here now. Import. And so you know we picketed by the end did outlook everything you know he sent along the way. The best glide crunch a corporate sponsor is where I. Corporate sponsored agency. And give category. You know. 500. That is. It ago sponsor and what I for the and you're here year and they it for free ticket but at leaner company. I very well like it has its rating at one thing they like to just come out playing county to creek in inhabiting it but it. And that you'd be there outline there art and nation she is. Twenty dollars or twenty pocket fifty dollars. Our door prizes. We sentiment on the card or private donation of twenty our dollar. That no one feel like they've got cheated when negated or product typically. Back at. As you approach that with that she'd about what I can expect. To receive and for her in target America a nation and it hailed. You know what a great idea so it's like it's like contract between you and the sponsor which responses I can't emphasize when I talked to people enough. How important they are you can go in with sponsor dollars. That will actually cover all your expenses in May be able profit and and everything else you make his land. I got a good basis to start you can build on a year at the governor argued another example Louisiana state police association. They thought efficient rodeo was a great idea and they had me meet with a moment of about five or six of them and basically talked the mob of they ended up tick in there and do this sponsor money and putting it into the shooting which turned out of the more productive more profitable book as the particular sponsors they have normal willingness helpful with the shooting event. Then a fishing of that other rodeos are content news that the worst case scenario that can happen. Is that local lot now filed a sponsor let's say that sponsor gives them a check for 101000 dollars. They go wild in their expenses and a 121000 dollars they've all worked their butts off for months and months to put this thing on. And I and a mask on one just take the donation and put it in your bank account as a benefit donation. He went through all this war in diamond trouble in ended up losing your donation. And that happens. Would it take a break Wickham backlog at June to talk more about maybe would you've known filing out responses and your experience and any other information we can help people out because I think it is that not enough information out there a lot of misconceptions about. Fishing events as fund raise will be right back its hunt fish talk on three W. He's an hour ago when I. And we hope this morning we've given you some tips and some advice February rodeo director chairman committee member a few never thought about it maybe you need some second thoughts about it while sponsors when he had some excellent suggestions on how to. Acquire responses to get them out of pay him back in also about making agreements that living up to those. You've got any tips advice on secure responses because they really on the key to success in the. Either you want our sore right you know even if you don't give a 100% code useful electoral sponsorship. Every. Dollar new gear. You use that dollar prof Paul hold back in the virtual sponsorship that there are people. You know what Andrea you know out of a couple of those big conventional war on trial under are all first. Are safe. People six people. That's the tail on the warmer in there and used to all go through user should note term direct. Leadership community you know. Who's gonna. Various topics solve auction you know. Volunteer coordinator. And millions. He's been saying okay I'm no so and so he'll do this machine who do not on the swell by effectively you have to India. Broke. Airport Warner's sponsorship continue to sponsorship chairman and you'd have somebody. Ought to volunteer for that they've had. Experience full. You know somebody that brings province each ultimately did try to tackle. All foreigners and and so all you take care of that issue who will be. These sponsorship chamber of course. Everybody used in the top all the leadership has got some experience and oh. How much they were bigger name dropper that area and Louisiana called the art association. When Iran contractor somebody but in these trying economic activity due slope to bring. Sponsorship or you know and there's also the human and he you know we had an outdoor art association. Cannot promise you that could deal. Make him read directory. Efficiency conservation. May turn out became corrupted or can't. You know you have to use every year managerial it and an outcome of what you've been. And just Franklin you know we come out what voter ID 400 dollar sponsorship deal. How would you mind will be in this well durocher. Banner to weigh in. You know voters much as we change and Lenovo. You know newspapers are free stuff like that would be reluctant to. You know you miked mentioned somebody or you can't go wrong with a four actual. You would give it. Internet opened shall should be fail you know almost can't beat beauty Leo well emails you know. Oh nutrients Leo email that you can do you call slate is really grew that a trophies so in humans are trying to do. What got you good to keep you know you can. You can go in under like Syria Trout are caught the ball a little report though. You know you know warmer but these guarantees. Well first place well. No. Big way well we have all you know they get rid total control and prevention and it should look into Visio. On the privilege. Tuesday two each computer basics of undergraduate that you computers use just a lot of people. Function back. And production business in the industrial KO uptake there you know what you wait troops. Big these files are true that you know. You know did you cope well. We're literally just and you work all that you know responsible very important and and you know. They don't necessarily there. We'll look forward you can view. That's good record industry can potentially and it you know. They use it couldn't do it because bush from software you know full years you know so called and they. And they. Choose where they put the date. They've been all mongo pulled returned as a model you can do that but if you have we're still feeling that you guaranteed failure. True helps legal citizens as well. America gets a great thank you Wendy and allow you know do you think we've reached. A saturation point on fish in advance of particularly liked the good months of October. And although in the summer you look down militia looking Joseph Max columns outlook calendar and different publications. And you just see this endless list and almost everybody's got one going on maybe two or three in the same area. A decent at a point when maybe this is too much of a good thing when. Why did the elderly it ain't so that let not by now been able profitable. I mean I think absolutely that if they're not profitable no one's been down this much trouble and they didn't reach there growl. So to me it's authentication factored that into you. To have them around the same time the same hearing it means people still fishing salmon are still. So at that point we must not be lecturing. Well hopefully we've given some people some some real food for thought here again the main consideration now would say is determined. The purpose of you'd you'd then he won it strictly is outrage is it to get people together of the camaraderie. It's just to create a little friendly competition or is there economics do you really anticipate to make money and if you do. Adopt that business concept that this is a business week and have a projected income projected expenses. Was union and Novo rent a black figure at the end of the day anything you guys like. Leo Laporte. I mentioned that impacted folks. He's not harm on our spaghetti or not go far haven't gotten rodeo and killing it. At the beginning you're gonna wait and do that Ian asked Yorkshire. That you. Yours sponsorships and you have enough money to pay that cash payout. You have and that's sponsors and then made everything out periphery so that you. It's HL. Is going to be process. You have. Certainly don't think of yourself. If you end up not getting I think Jean Ely and not advertising. And. Yes all well all talk a bit about saturation trying you know. Just to be true which you know I'm so bought by term all. Will be very some new take all pretty. A big project a close. Hello every week here. From. January. Through June probably. It could go. Multiple by turn. And you pulled from Simon Cole creek and a lot of people. You know talk to me about a minute war and maybe not necessarily going to be top to bottom by them as. We wanna do so what good weeks here and Diana that is not good leisure. It's. Several Breyer chairmanship that we can slow Blair got a lot of by tradition here they go do it all contrition on Wednesday. And the it doesn't matter if you put your own bias and you might be trotted out and out but it should involve the creation crowd that comma or tool. You lose you're not outlook group go indicate something. You know bodies they won't do it cocktails. And especially by air and says look you pick a day. Over a long ball fat you know like we do the issue affairs first law. That you create anymore and you pick city week here and I think that you do it signing your return to have changed. That way everybody in those elections here in April 2 week here. This term result and we had a good. In other community gave us good Prague on a lot of use of scroll all they can't put and it available. Maybe put computers you know that they are going to be. Back that term for that they couldn't have a cold plane we here every year. And made you make or a small community and their appeal in the Ontario but afterward you gotta do don't. Actually all contacted by Julio all thank you coincidence. They use do the ball now by yet. Physically challenged Q did you grow. Grow strangle themselves there they hope it gets a boat to do well. There's a lot of that they'll go all out all all the top you know and coaching award really these things to do could now. Call vote anxious. Read out should go pretty you know well as well. Flaw award bills that went through Ukraine united adult store too long before you'll have. You know yeah. Yugo when an ear. Little I are old school golf and everybody our goal of pork away in Egypt Cuba to promote green and kind of sport. Pocono downs around. Hopefully provided some some good useful information that people think about it the plan and maybe some people already working on out some ideas and really consider it and hopefully they'll tickets are written you know one thing we didn't mention his contingency plan when you do in an outdoor event will have the weather's all. What do you do then and under the Dayton mine it. You get wiped out. Wendy you enjoy your day at the five by US fish and rodeo in pass along some of this knowledge to use fellow committee members. Yeah apparently. Definitely. I'll look forward to the next visit next month and a friend okay awesome and our fish are Andre are you go. All right you can listen to hunt fish talk thank you Sunnis in united again apparently. Sanity each month we do this we talk about issues that use museums sportsman. 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