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11-19 7am Tommy, Syrian refugees

Nov 19, 2015|

Tommy talks to Michael Rubin, a Resident Scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, about how the US should respond. Tommy also talks to Ebrahim Moosa, a Prof. of Islamic Studies at Notre Dame, about ISIS and Syria refugees and Islam.

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Arafat now they tried to get the monkey equipped with a patch but it wouldn't stay on developer. Wayne inventors it was worth waiting for one are almost time and waited vendors morning talking about Latin Syrian refugees. In on debit WL eight. Hey thanks for alcohol and like American people aren't Yasser gobble up. I'm more an entry Bengali people call. It issue. But the same people would not want any reasonable gun control. Much more likely be you know well armed terrorist. Egypt. Number. Went President Obama also present a lot to answer there are people that you leadership matter. A lot of cities where they started out. It. Even you know of the atrocities is just now and Obama is committed and that we agree to that and we are as Americans will need to. But our point is immigration policy is already. Well the it is achieve our players really. It was not to be out there is that our Ireland who's now the department of homeland security policy are we should have. Adequately outlook security employees now. And so. That's basically why I'm that it becomes do we just demagogue this issue people get scared. And they had their eye on the right bank so those points. I appreciate you Colin way to really deal and I'm sure. What's wrong and I'm sure that everybody's gonna agree with you know smooth and dom. What we're gonna do is talked to a gas or to take calls and and we've tried head to play you call back to see who agrees with you and who doesn't. Agree with you all opinions are welcome here Tommy Tucker we will. Not accept racial slurs or anything like dampened all opinions are welcome talking about the Syrian refugee crisis back in a flash and other WL. 718 quick look at the weather highs today around 71. Then tomorrow 72. A little bit of a chance for rain on Election Day Saturday 20% is another front comes through. And Sunday you want some fall whether you got it. Highs of 54. Lows 4345. TH highs on Monday of 56. And then we've warmup Olympic bid and all 170 by next Wednesday up ready jaguar opinion poll. Is asking you do Syrian refugees make the country less safe and 88% if you. Are saying they do indeed Michael Rupp a judgment is right now resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute. To help us sort summit this out and I don't think it's easy at all good morning Michael. Good morning thanks to take the time a new poll shows 52% of net percent of Americans think Syrian refugees. Make your country less safe so if you factor emotion. Out of all of this if you factor relates you know about of all of this sort. Did the humanitarian. Efforts. And just try to examine the numbers is there any database from which we can. It come any conclusions. Note there simply is not what we do now. Is that the Islamic state has said that they're going to use the refugees. At copper. And that's what's going on top of which of course we see the parrot the past. The Obama administration has countered by saying that we have a lengthy interview process. Not everyone can come and and that is five metric on I think that the in order to attract people the counterpoint to that is if you worried there. Intent on conducting terrorism on American soil. All the biometric scanning in dated going do it up by higher body after after you conduct that are the fact that that and that will be my final. It is is no real time monitoring is what you're saying Michael and even out there once you've been up mean Michael you know that embodies drive an odd. Carrying a Gunner wearing an explosives vest or what have you. What you can pick and on. But fingerprinting buttoned up there and only up by the by the body that the fact that Wednesday night but what really worries me is that these visa waiver program. With you're because even if we do that effectively and after the front nine have Brothers but often come marathon bomber I'm not sure that we have the capability does. Do let that in fact of the matter is the right have shown that they cannot. They've suffered two major terrorist attack in the past year. Anyone with a printer belt and passport get on the plane the United States and yet there for me this year and if I'm on top of manifest and so forth. But it's the intelligence community in France that built them how to adequately identify those people that are not going to do with Annika. You know one thing that really got my attention it was a piece. I'm on the CBS evening news by Hollywood unions and she talked Manning Greece it was an administrator deciding who comes in the country who doesn't. One of the guys pass through. Greece at the same route as do a lot of immigrants across the water and then he says that will attack this passport it came up clean. So they let him in the country but. The passport was forged and I just wonder if as you're saying France and Belgium. Gives it the stamp of approval will then do we go by that or do we just disregard vetting go back to zero but can you check every friend your. Belgian. Quote citizen with a passport when it come of the country. You know Tommy's affects your mind is something about. In years ago now I was living in northern Iraq and the State Department wanted to invite any crop he. The program in the United States and because I was on the U American living in Iraq it is that these indicate sin. Elected. Nine of the rocket hit it passports because they were rock because it and they couldn't but the fact that it's still under the on the problems Spain's one of the legitimate passport. You're never who turned back at the border with Turkey and the wood but through. Well I did check candidates in Mosul legitimate passport take. Exactly that was different than all the others and so I mean it again. Is it is a problem. Wow Michael any solutions because I don't know it's it seems to me like the conversation always winds up. Circular because well this makes sense Willis makes sense right back to restart. Well you know last week I was I mean it came back from Iraq I went through Dubai you know not a single hearing refugees in Dubai with outlook we will be it the did Saudi Arabia and out and air conditioned tent which are being put the news. But when the pump for refugees. Yet people are getting partly because countries they pick more fair and every NATO on what is expected here in Jesus too radical. I would like that yet where I hit the Syrian Christian refugees. Simply because they. Suffered double prosecution. And frankly they would also have an easier on them waiting in the. Lower Tom let them we have to go on a second because in your time is limited but how would you determine that I mean they can say. There whatever religion right to get in and and we were hidden here before in a production meeting about. Maybe ask Neil Baltimore candidates catechism to see if they an answer I don't know how you would tell. That that. But easier bait on. Name and proper case and you can eloquently than is much easier than it and now they are prepared. Well thank you Michael we talk to you again thank you I'm Michael Rubin resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute coming up. A couple of minutes we will have an update for you from CBS about the mastermind terrorist being killed in the in the explosion. In the raid that happened yesterday I know they identified him. Well he has blown up and they said immediately that he was a male. Let's just say I hope they determine that through. DNA in and on anything they found 724 time now for two traffic on evidently well. Tommy Tucker we're gonna have an update in a few minutes about the parade in Paris yesterday it was yet. Yeah. Those Belgium and it was Paris that they believed killed. Abdel Hamid. Bob I'll mood. And and reason nest at a terrorist and killer. But I just learn pronounces name. And then he gets clipped bill good morning or Devin have you well. Exotic many eyes. There aren't you wish you appeared that we have to separate what another thing we have a conflict are well. Al Pacino they get about ninety seconds okay. Are there we will tell people. You're. And how we will go out or we could do it and that the agri that we all epic. You are right about a one out comedy people in the security people and that. Electorate basically. It's going couple in under way to go. Go right. On and I was in. Well taken. Yeah I don't that's audio I don't know and yes mean I don't know the answer I swear to goodness resiliency order. You are you ate at a Muslim Christian cited that point. Really don't hide tells Christian to go ahead he got a minute left. Don't. That people. So. That. Mean Peter. Oh we were gonna do it. If we act now basically back. Something or break. I don't appreciate the call and I think you also have to acknowledge he attacks in Paris is something that changed and we often used the phrase game changer. And we were also talking about now oil and how much ices makes from oil leak estimates are up to two million dollars a day and they sell it. Primarily to Syria and Iraq. At a very high price like 350 dollars barrel. Which is way over the price. A barrel of oil right now so we had a CBS update here they'll handle our own news and then. We'll get back to you talking about the Syrian refugees. I'm a big 870 WWL. Well I mean they're doing everything Ryder everything wrong David because. As much as I love your news and hate to miss it. You know around 730 clearly taken a break and I love cool weather sun went out signed a little bit of fresh. And it'll lit up on the way down by some money was listening and saying I cannot believe that you want to let those refugees in the country. I'd moment in January that I and Ares I go to at all on the way up in the elevator after I got my fresh air. I cannot believe that you don't want these refugees. In a country like blow ware from I don't. Calls saying neither you are cults and we have a problem but not. Not that net that when she dude I don't know what do you honestly no value you can't Wear and I'm not one news. When we come back we're gonna talk to AM professor from the University of Notre Dame talk about the fighting irises chance of being in the final four. No we want. But as we're talking about Ahmanson Notre Dame PO while I don't know it's Ebert he Moussa. A professor of Islamic studies. It's more like at the University of Notre Dame. I guess on Notre Dame. How about on hand is you know I think it's terribly overrated anyway that the conversation for another day 74119. Before he Tommy Tucker. Back in a flash on DeVon. Have you well. I'd 745 Tommy tiger talking about with the entire country is talking about on a national level. On a local level and on a person to person level. That is Syrian refugees. Good morning Tom. Boy I don't know what is start Yuri new poll showed that 52% of Americans thing. Syrian refugees make it country legacy 41% think. They don't. And for presenting country should stop allowing them Ian. Take assuming any one has professor and argue among Islam. That there and there's no wrong with that on Tuesday and I don't mean imply that countries and asking you know for background that's. So. Only you know I think I think it the issue losses and treaties and the term all public opinion. Has been and impacted by development in. In Paris of course and ma'am members the political. And spun it into the direction to say that or refugees danger. Clearly we don't know now. What happened in Paris it may well be that. The attackers and the billions of people upon operations use a city of refugee passport and the take away two to navigate because they have their driver's license. They would it mean he's been plaque that he could stop that. Pose it Fiji's. Then that would in communities go to that country don't have a street address Asia and so I think that too much is being made. By that single past the met must call. And millions of people who have been fleeing Iraq and Syria are not impacted by this I think it's not the American way. I think we need to be more careful about how we make these deliberations this is an emotional response and think. A properly thought out. Il it's interesting you should say that because. You know I'm probably like. Thousands as Smart as you are NS at the same thing earlier that. I don't think yeah you can't be good for socially politics out of this in terms of he wants she wants Sadr and I think you have to look at it. As a problem that needs to be solved with rational thought that being sent every time. I think about solving the problem. I see both the Republicans and the Democrats here remembering and politics like into it but they both make points and it seems as though the conversation is circular that I wind up right back where I started there's humanitarian concern of well is the country. About helping people shall we be at our best or not there's also. The safety concern of isn't the situation of we don't know would we don't know there were Megan's family members more Obama Roland professor let me add one more thing here. It's seems like when it comes of the Paris attacks in the Syrian refugees. I see it from both sides I can see where my family member was Syrian refugee in those terrible conditions. I would want them in the United States if my family member was in Paris and had been gunned down by a terrorist or blown up. I would be just the opposite so how do you separate that emotion. And and look at this logically and then get enough data to make a logical decision. Not. Yeah we need to be need to stick if you get stopped about that made bad decisions we made because of the emotional thinking. After 9/11 B became so agitated by everything that axle we didn't processing. We instead of going after the bad guys in the police operation. In rent to invade a country and stayed for fifteen years in the school app that. Have not been able to annihilate all defeat to target. They're doing and their own country because of emotional outbursts and so on and support the invasion of I bet has caused what we have right now that the whole unit indeed it. So we need to as a country as a people the politicians intellectual media people need to think actually. And think carefully and think safely otherwise have been the cause more problems. And we are going to jeopardize whatever they do we have yet because believe. The world so let's think I actually don't irrationally. Make rational judgments. The fact of the matter he's no matter what kind all precautions you take. Where are these going to be considered refugees anybody that he uses visa that comes any country in the world. Anyone of those people can be turned to become an operative. All the scoop ice that you've they have bad intentions and they have been a big tent. So we have no guarantee about the the world what we need to do. Instead of going out in making mole we need to have a strategy. Oddly may how do you make peace rule. In all the awards and meet in Asia and nine elevenths we only know how to destroy Bea don't have a strategy how to make peace. And that easily fooled usual Betty if you travel. So we need to be really Smart people if we claim to be Smart people and make Smart decisions none of these petitions are small. Feel old bravery. Gut reaction barely palpable gut reactions that make us feel good. But it doesn't solve the problem. Professor got to ask you one thing before we run out of time and that is I was vilified earlier for saying this making it seem as though. I was radical Muslim sympathetic which I don't think anybody is certainly not. Muslims that are not radicals because more Muslims have been killed by prices and have Christians but. I guess I was thinking is. In terms of my mind went blank you just do it. Oh unrepentant. In terms of the the intense. Days scrutiny on Muslims in France that are French citizens. And assigned in K you know if you pay if a parent tells child you do on drugs you do on drugs during doing drugs and not eventually they will and I just wonder if by cracking down on Muslims that have not done anything wrong. In France could they not ironically be creating a condition wherein somebody. Young male. Muslim it could feel as though you know what may be ices is Megan sincere because I'm being discriminated against and I'm heaven some human rights taken away from me. Absolutely. I mean I just got back from this weekend and I spoke to about eighty to a hundred Muslim professionals on Saturday. The alienation that is very high and then some of the things remain at similar conditions prevailed in France Muslims and that it. Sort of pleasure parties. All gone to Oak Hill. Also I think the world community's response to crisis is killings and and and the killings I promise of the should be fairly balanced. So cleaned and we cannot only object and make a huge. Kind of you know. Making huge outcry art out of fact would be played basketball hundred people go bomb about in October. In Turkey. By crisis in Blaine was taken down and shout shake it Egypt. In Beirut to remotely let all lives. Count old lies count and not only some lives. That's the one that. Second that the global appeal. Is that I'm I'm pretty United States in France we need to be judicious and markedly go after the bad guys. Good morning when he does we know that these nine people killed active as a package Nigeria. He just came out the and you Beckham on the ticket tape and I don't mean potentially any prominence in tomorrow morning newspaper. But I think. We also know that one of the bad guys work apprehended is something the in Nam in the troubles but not apprehended they all these body. In the attack on the housing city of one of the bat on but he did take out bad guys out of that. But we do not go out of the causes and we do not tax Mon we can't complicate matters. And we will be at this for the next two decades we cannot afford. We need to have global peace we need to make sure. That you know not a presidency and that all of us. Professor I get electing answered that time to go ahead please finish at the site I'm at isn't to say we need to understand that not a process say. Until all over the place and I'm seeing it on the global until we need to look at that in order to make this make this make this a reality. In order to keep out about next generation safe in this country and a. And professor appreciate your time hoping it would go weekend. Thank you and I when you mean go Irish flowing. I send him before six before eight and we come ankle take your calls that was Seagram a professor of Islamic studies. At the university of notre dames and 54648. Time now for them an annual traffic. I Tommy Tucker coming up on 8 o'clock we will take your calls when we come back yet mattered the professors there oh you did talking about. Americans damaging their image with ices I guess pretty much in that we have too. Difficult for when we come back.