Dec 16, 2015|
Is a bill that revokes a student scholarship if they protest or strike unconstitutional or smart legista
WWL’s Kristian Garic, Seth Dunlap and Jeff Palermo talks LSU baseball as the Tigers continue their campaign in the NCAA Baseball Regionals Saturday in Baton Rouge against the Southeastern University Lions with WWL callers.
WWL’s Kristian Garic, Seth Dunlap and Jeff Palermo talk LSU baseball as the Tigers continue their campaign in the NCAA Baseball Regionals Saturday in Baton Rouge against the Southeastern University Lions with WWL callers.
WWL’s Kristian Garic, Seth Dunlap talks LSU baseball as the Tigers continue their campaign in the NCAA Baseball Regionals Saturday in Baton Rouge against the Southeastern University Lions with WWL callers.
WWL’s Kristian Garic, Seth Dunlap talks LSU baseball as the Tigers continue their campaign in the NCAA Baseball Regionals Saturday in Baton Rouge against the Southeastern University Lions with WWL callers.
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Price of the NCAA. Would not want any part of this can't want any part of this because if they get on board with this legislation and then act is. Northwestern and other other college players student athletes. The fuel in a ground work to say our it will then unionized. They get onboard as though. Why and I mean there's there's questions about is this guy is is violating the first of ma'am I mean look there's. There's very serious problems in this bill is not suited as income. From a place. Good intentions and we're we're guessing it whether you would call them as good or not is pins. On your perspective but I mean the intent here. Is to. I think kind of I think I think it's kind of rebellion against his whole safe space issue that we've been continuously dealing with right. Soars like what's the role of a school a student education. Is it their role to protect makes that are etc. And many people felt when you hear the congressman who were pushing this bill. They're basically saying that you know these students had. Too much power and that data like the way the Missouri handled it as a school. And that the school should be dictating to the students as opposed to the other way around. So as I understand who this bill if a student athletes so much is pledges their support for Claus. That this bill could revoke their scholarship. So. Student athletes basically don't have with this bill tells me on this proposed bill. Student athletes don't have any first amendment rights so how can how can anybody get on boy over the like and it's an NCAA can't. I can't because at the same time we we talk about how. Universities want their star athletes to get behind their claws yeah right applaud that there are supporting yeah. Will YE a regular format and he's the poster child for now they do it alone giving me. I'm a little injunction with a letter for net this year off auctioned off one of his run game worn jerseys for over 100. Als in dollars which still blows my mind. So they. They don't watch it and they'll allow you to do that it benefits them yet but in this case under this legislation. You can't have you can't speak what will bother you know as to what bothers you. Which are in support of if you tweet something hey. The hash tag this almond support our. And you know whenever the in this bill would revoke your scholarship. And like I did that fear right because we talked about the fees and I think that's what this bill is kind of born out of his fear like you said a little bit against the whole series based debate has been rage but it did they're afraid of these students having this amount of power right I mean. When you are on that football team in your multi million dollar TV contracts and you threatened to strike. I think they're worried about the slippery slope scenario where all of a sudden. Anything these players want it appears like charismatic leader someone you know who can lead that grew real men and held it they eat. Wanna stand up presenting the naked almost forces school and a quarter remembered that's what they did. Gary people a very powerful individual in that state head coach. Could what was powerless to stop this. Tim wolf the president of the president school instead of stepping down so it's borne out of that fear but it could see big Christian it just feels a little ridiculous. On the surface over reacted well weigh in and you're basically just saying that. All you can. Legs or you could support whatever the school is trying to push but it you wonder anything against us and adding that maybe we don't like as much as you know I mean that it. Totalitarian regime yeah adapt our Rite Aid as that sort of feeling and I guess one of my biggest or one of my biggest issues. With this bill like I said it's born out of the year and my problem is that these bills kind of intended to replace solid leaders should. Right I mean it's been lie you will okay is because of gays and their freight about these players basically stamping their feet to get their way right. Well if you have good leadership structure in the air from the coach to head coach assistant coaches. What do leaders in the theater I mean you should be able to sit down and talk with your team and talk to these issues should be able to maintain control. Of your team obviously did in the played take place in Missouri but I don't think that this bill is the correct path to a TP maintain that control. This the bill this bill proposed by a Missouri legislator. Introduced that would revoke a student athlete's scholarship if they went on striker got involved in a protest. First amendment rights is an unconstitutional Smart legislation that's are pretty jaguar opinion poll on line it going to be to fuel economy call survival for. 260187. He texted 878 in the coming up next hour of by the sensitive Raj on Rondo call on an official. A homophobic slur and also LSU basketball little later on Ali wasting been Simmons and Pete Rose. All come UA over the next four hours you know double. Don't use as far as those Sebastien got excited get this on because I was shocked. Today kids you know even being vocal we. Admittedly this messenger of football season. Don't pay them attention tell us your best they have been winning we have been talking about him. You know watching all these national shows need every 11 of the topics is. These LSU bad for basketball. And that's literally what it says that the bears in on a national scale. So you know ultimately it's. He's the bottom Christian Tim writes on the screen. Correct Victor returns tomorrow great. That's nice guy that's great but. Vinson is is the show he'll be this year I'm thrilled that you but that's abroad using credit to Richard you have the best player in the country that we. Okay so it's just hold all. Hold the docile your eye when he if I had a yet left plenty of time while you're going to get an up and that's all coming your way phone lines open at 504. 2601878. Tech's 8787 double coverage to about Christian not to be to do well. But Obama still Napoli right now. Hopefully have passed a bill passed that bill you know life. Because then it's one step closer I'm getting. To being unionized thinking paid jobs to because you can take away Mike constitutional rights. I expect we counted in one way shape or form by limiting my right to freedom of speech. And the military service members they give up their constitutional rights when they when they sign a contract in but they're compensated by that something that is known going in so student athletes. When he unionized looking into double late they get onboard this legislation. Introduced. That would basically revoke a student athlete's scholarship they went on strike. Or got involved in a protest or support the cause is coming on the heels of the Missouri university Missouri incident. But to me it's like come on. So I can't have any rights how much more in favor of college universities is is going to blow it the war and that that. The issues that once again the student part of the student athlete. Seems to be kind of lost in the shuffle another. Problem that I have with this the kind of crooks of the bill. That these legislators trying to pass a curtain ball are believed that they've announced last agrees on the co sponsors. Of the bill and he says quote the issue really is they can have the freedom of speech win they like or don't like something on campus. But if they're going to receive state money. There's going to be ramifications. And he goes on talk about now like in the good state leaders that the school handled probably. The problem with this what are the main problem is that quote alone he. It is using you know BEE. Eazy e.'s operating. From the viewpoint they're using the statement that scholarships but they're not according to Missouri student handbook. All that athletic depart money for the discussions to all of self contained win the about it but it's it actually not eating gaining. Any state money would you give these legislators even less power. Over these student athletes when I'm confused about is that he once again you have more. Ticker tape in more rules that set you apart from normal suited to make you feel even less legacy but now here. Not allowed to act in your view Joseph Idaho. Use this is to task is at three setter you didn't. Operate with your pregame speech you just can't act on those beliefs and and I putted Missouri safety. Ian Simon. Exe had a really intelligent quote on this and he said they want to call us student athletes but they keep us out of the student part of it. I'm more than just a football player as soon as we're done playing at the University of Missouri the University of Missouri does not hear about us anymore. We are not ever spot are they we are not their responsibility. Our sport is just a small part of who we are and that's I think this bill. Makes a lot of people feel and rightfully so and the thing about this would you is this school going to revoke. Any scholarships of normal students. That and we're already engineering program the journal I don't know of any tweets of an out are they organize something. She should have applied then he can have a double standard the other thing I want to go back to end the reason why they had double standard. Why it's also obvious what I mean it's a little bit of fear of letting this kind of inmates run the prisoner whatever latency detriment our the other reason is because there's major. Monetary. Circumstances on line like there's a lot of money involved in college football. And that's where these players Al or that it generates from and that's what they're trying to shut down and just sit increased as we talked about this. That the single most fascinating part of the hunger strike. Wasn't necessarily a president. Changed that you place it was just that it gave them. Student athletes around the country an idea of me did they yield a bit are they wield. A bit more power than they feel and they originally thought reading that quote again from legislator. The issue really is they can have the freedom of speech when they like or don't like something on campus. But if they're going to receive state money they're going to be ramifications. I. So the governor so think about that he kind of summed it up right there the legislator state money but yet you make their money back ten times over. On athletically ability yet and we'll. All right and they're definitely because it's through the athletic department you know they were repeatedly nodded again and save money but if they war yet you make it a money back in over Frist. And there should be ramifications what about craft the legislation that would say hey missed I administrators. If you don't handle something in a timely fashion that protects the student athlete what where are they where all the politicians that are gonna. Lobby our. Passed legislation or proposed legislation that's gonna further protect. The student athlete from the NCAA and from universities. I mean look at the end of the day and we'll get to Casey years India today though I I'd I'd scene no world in which is bill passes I mean unless you know it just struck down and yeah I because it's unconstitutional nationally heard arguments is unconstitutional. Within. You know Missouri State. Constitution. I think the main goal that these guys that these legislators are attempting here. They wanna started dialogue wanna start a conversation they wanna get people thinking. About the issue but did problem is at the end of the day. Unless you get really creative I do not know how you stop people do and I do you stop students who've done this throughout time. Will and right particularly that generated this generation Islam and their kind of encouraged to. Mean it's part of their millennial Alpine. Let up I mean but think about like did think about all this installation is that you. Every jittery at every time you talk about college kids you're darn kids are going to feel passionately and issues. Did they feel like cities around the system a lot of times they're gonna ban together and you're trying to shut that down like it's it just seems incredibly. Kind of tyrannical. Analyst. Casey on a cell phone you're on W grew only Casey. But just at a comet under real quick question of course there's real quick. I'll. Is it all out. To an all. What they wrote a note at only. Why. It got real. In what. Did you. Get an. Art shop and. There are there's always an element of that they're always in spite actually they the the if I could find I think it's as a Missouri. The University of Missouri administrator of that kind of floated this. This idea to this legislator. To hey you know because we can't announcing this we can't come out proposes because we're the ministers of this university. And we were basically shunned student athletes from going there and in in the future. Or any else thinks. I. And now are. Common in Detroit because they're out. Are out there. I think when you look at the this season and as a whole the evidence would point towards not trusting. In this Stevens and beat back boy or one without hurting and now look totally different in all seriousness Casey. In short. Turn the corner yet but it's they still got a huge turn to make stop what it is in the court etiquette of small amount that it just lost that have been under Dennis Allen yes they had it in baby steps. But look at it got more organized in terms of their sub packages. Now as many mistakes at least prior this that yes. But they're still dealing with talent deficiencies it still dealing with by and large relatively in disciplined. Overall team you can't seven right penalty. 8287 on the next line if this law in Missouri does Pat Summitt athlete if you think transfer out of state yet pretty quick I think you know the pretty. To give it triple down effect another one from 6431. Says you strike fine you're off the team then you don't deserve the privilege of sports scholarship it's not a right. While I get your point it's not a right not entitled to it and universities can pull your scholarship at any time. For just about any reason I mean they they do that TW no but it better than anyone if it. In a football coach decides hey. Look that that. Eightieth player on the roster we need it scholarship dictate it we're taking your seal later that's the week goes. But in this generally don't let they did they had it right dead they do that right. In this text though which are failing the C 6431 honestly is the fact that. The privileged that it's not a it's not right but. The university still. Your benefit from this it's this and that's our tax write yeah it's not like. It's not a one way streets sim idiotic relationship yes it is a privilege to be part of football team and that. You're going to be afforded some really nice abilities. I don't like on free education that you feel like you know you are working for your not dinner in. It to match disputed that yet to privileges great things about being on the team. But the problem with that word privileges can be quickly misinterpreted. As like you know the school doesn't need these players are just allowing them to have these got their lap and applicable but it's like you said. It's less of a privilege and more of a contract when you look at the massive benefits of these school gets all these bird don't think. These are university was helped by going to act back SEC championships. In full well who got on the you're crazy image that he's exactly. And so. I don't like using privilege in that since then also at the end of the day. Is it one of our most base right stood the right for peaceful assembly. And and and come together and like stand up for what you believe and at once again. Because at least that this is flies in the face of the term student athlete by ignoring these due to part of this. If you're going to do this. Are you getting going to put this scene sort of rule in place. For any. Student on that campaign issues on any sort of academic scholarship or any sort of money from the school no you're not you don't want. Because they're gonna scream from the rooftops and oh absolutely absolutely that that's one reason and the other reason is that. If it doesn't they sounds bad doesn't matter what figures that there's no their voices heard they'd be a buyer in today strike or not because it would have been normalcy to those that go to class anymore than it appears that he is now there's no. Multi hundred million dollar TV deal at risk in batches government that he truly is bill. Will not get past there's no. The fascinating part is that this gives you a real idea of how scared. Some people are of the Howard that was displayed. During this misery strike we talked about that time it's coming were were were seen it. Kind of collapse. What's interesting is what we sit here say on the surface this bill should not pass were coming for you Tracy vacuumed away but. This bill will not pass but what do another legislator not seen it done they'll tack on something else attached an attachment to this bill. It's important that I would any mistake that it can get past but ultimately it should get struck down or what. It passes and then all of a student strike you blow it like I tell you that what the team strikes you gonna you gonna get riddled team know your not and now we're back were restarted. And that's that you're trying to start a conversation I just don't know. How you would ever admit I don't understand why you would meters in financially why you would like we said everything that's in play and risk. But it's incredibly. And time mayor acted to be proposing a bill like this I almost feel it to beat someone who's actively involved in legislation. And in politics it it seems to be jockey. I think you nailed it earlier we said this legislation was gonna born out of fear and at some point it merits the conversation maybe this is what they're trying to. Which is a distant athletes are due students in general should they have a seat of the tables somewhere and I think. There has to be happy medium that they should it does not encouraging behavior that we saw Missouri but at the same time. It's your constitutional right to stand up for what and speak out against what you don't like and assemble Tracy New Orleans Jauron W duo patriots. And I did their part in the lack should be back can't. No they don't hate it hate like eight. And they had a content. That they. Will act cool. Aren't. You could tell. Me more. Isn't there. Yeah. At the ballot. Yes. Way out of the end to use contract with amateurs. I think there's there's a bid it's are you bought into it we are volatile and you have this. Include that they let you rate chair. Shouldn't be the current track. It. That Google does not want patent. Did. It click patent for the current track. Rangers feeling. Ian Maclean. Now and acting well. And it's of the quite that. Supporters. Part it's. Once they get their name out there certainly something more. Trees. Which is because you do you winner can't. Answer. It. Yours all Sudan he's going to Purdue. Every day like. It's. All politics right now. So. Basically ball team rule on just doing what to expect. Where the red flags laws in our view he scholarship you have to give up your right to. Since that. The thought it Tracy I get a day maybe you wanna add that but like T Bob just said. He can't because I thought I guess. Think about a little further or maybe he can because military members do it into the give her. I I don't know about the legality I'm just saying that the general public if alert is unwilling that would be even that would be the issue. He's yet to get people fired up right presents everything works yet to get people kind of on social media talk me into that undercurrent of buttons. I eat maybe you could slip this and can without alerting them boys but I guarantee that as soon as the situation erosion which is clause was enacted. If somebody's scholarship was taken away you could be looking at aid being. Time firestorm as far as having conceded table. Yeah look you don't want to student at ball control but you don't want him to not have a voice I so like you said. This is where you need to have a conversation together. And the leadership. Needs to view this like we said this where he needed leaders. The conversation together in establish a new set of parameters from which operated. Are pretty jaguar people online thanks for the phone call Tracy but. But he embarked on a Becky involved no excuse me. It's bulky it is thought he would vote count will come before after the break fee to weigh in at 504260. 187 he is a bill that provokes a student athlete's scholarship. If they protest voice their opinion or strike unconstitutional Smart legislation right now 79% as saying. Unconstitutional. What's they use double coverage here on WOIMF and induct them. Welcome back double coverage. Text that he was a case the evidence we element that's what okay picture and. I it's about conversations off the air have a way of spilling into you I. I've ever seen you read him this this armed games already. Get out your rent of three now daylight with text line. OK 87. This is a pretty good tax and maybe it's just it's kind of in line with our viewpoint that turned 2860. Horses. Then heat talking about. Analysts say is proposing. This bill many he'd better evaluate every word of every word every student that receives any semblance. Of state funding and AA in the no matter of fact he received state funding until it's also consider what he says it does it don't work right to because he receives state money. Is he'll have to do and stand up for something that he believes in I mean he's gonna be fighting. You legislation he disagrees with righty now do you like. This is this bill is just seen it just seems more and more absurd the more we talk on. Balky embarked on your on W well I balky. You know but that is then looked down and talk to and that's my part now with them. You know talk about what. Greg. It is a cop. Out but it didn't work. That you. Work. I have the right. Way RE college Ike. Where. A coach always. We actually. I was well ultimately. Or should it serves suffice in the well what are. Your. Whole life. We're going to be. Like beating. And incompetence. Got up in our. Education. Very. Good opportunity school. 00. It. You want. Not hurt. But. All here in the here is the key difference by key in this is something that. I too was a little hung up on because. You know I did their remaining time there been during the show you'll hear about somebody. He's a prominent figure and they get fired because they came out and said to me kind of goes against the got a liberal hive mind that the other country can operate out of it seems like. And I didn't get a pardon Amber's here violating their freedom of speech but here is the he difference in that. Unlike one of these businesses like. You know you work for bunker like we work for year to come those are pride that employer's right in so they have that right. They have the ability to terminate you would view it bears economy hurt the stock whatever. This is not the case with Missouri did or not private employers who they're not a horse he's operative also but not really not a reporter's. And because of this they're actually subject to be constitutional challenge they have to uphold. These kids constitutional rights we have to allow them to assemble this bill had his fill dead in the water. They they just want to get people talking manatee that was started out like other groups they wanna. And then make their neighbor just crazy because like you said it violates the national constitution violates. The Missouri constitution that's the key difference there Bucky is that. They are is not a private employer private employer relationship. They are it's subject to constitutional. Town. Contracts compensation. All get a little. Murky we've come a student athletes if there. Truly intended to be student athletes like the NCAA. Has contested for decades and decades and decades. Victor in prairie pavilion on W two I Victor. I get it. Our partner you know aren't our country yet the bill. As more data and war. You know at church and of course some of the tomatoes models but my concern is that I keep hearing folks saying that world view being compensated. So you don't have a right well I do agree because. Even if you're in a contract that contract works to weigh that aren't like that cart to exit that there certain protection. That you provide me and there is they're there at the circuit providing you knew where it all away. Do the work you compensate. Indicate that the student at Missouri. Problem that they weren't that important. Being protective. There yet. Some pockets in seeing it contracts go. Because they were being protected. As pretty as the weakest and that and say. You are actually in violation of the contract because. He. And and and did you people did believe them meet in look at it there's about debate as to have. Was that the correct response was it over the topic but that's it being regardless of where you stand on the Missouri student striking. And hunger strike him forcing president. President of the school a regardless. Of where you. Statement issued to relevant. It derailed right because this is I agree with you Victor in that this is unconstitutional. And it's it's it's it's violation of the Contra what's interesting. Christian we learned you can no longer the reading. Yeah we are up earlier you can't take away scholarships are just not being good anymore. Like you see so it's like I think you are protected. Your protected two way easier levee the only way he can now legion scholarship is for violating team team or. Schools. Wanted to get that point because people start talking about you had conversations. Yeah rational conversations which were trying to do here in the face this legislation that. At least meet you Bob grievously. It's unconstitutional. This bill that's proposed well especially legislators. Specially now that there's. I've found that stage and I've been looking forward to private employer. In not being a private employment and exulted the war to about a Christian here on WW LI MF and NW did you elect come. 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