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12-22 9am Tommy, ISIS

Dec 22, 2015|

Tommy talks to Emma Ashford, a Visiting Research Fellow at the Cato Institute, about the US's efforts to fight ISIS.

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We're about to turn series here David and talk about prices and in some comments the president made that. And a raise my eyebrows and and Demi scratching my head we don't know by now about Steve Harvey right in the massive snafus. Boy when he came announcing the winner some people think that it was done on purpose for. Publicity and I think about that but I did find on this story they found enters seeing bomb about missy rock. Or railing there is an Iraq beauty pageant. Ices threatened them. That you would step in and so forth aria when I look at and they they Wear crowns and and they have an evening gown competition. And on how that fits in. With. The Muslim stance on dress I don't know the other burqa like well you know in debts via a bit but even then he jobs the the head gear and I don't know they certainly aren't wearing that's nominal they get an exemption for beauty pageants. Is you've got may have funded into an innocent little different if you Google on the in this Iraq you'll find the story and is that fascinated me that they would have bet. There she uses Jose Jose bra to be caddy. You know. Ladies have been through alive. Let's talk about the present a downturn series about the middle instant interest Middle East. And the president president said that I initially we don't know I think that he said prices was the JV team. And any he added he said that on different time while the group can hurt to hurt this rather he says they yet. Destroy the United States and he's confident that we can defeat them. Do you agree or are you worried and will we or can we beat crisis it. Our ages of the president says. He pause. He guy collected his thoughts and and he said. After everybody who's listening. Well apparently changed his mind and walked away. Emma Ashburn visiting research fellow at the Cato Institute with expertise. In international security John is right now and morning ma'am. Martin thanks taking time when this when it comes to the the president is it let's start with the JV team for those in the know. Is that an accurate statement those that have studied this issue or is it. Man you are greatly underestimating or at least may normalizing what it is it Europe against. I. In the in the context of the comment he made more than a year ago. I think he competent did underestimate if particularly. The year ability can peak cherry tree in Iraq and Syria. Don't think it's somewhat underestimated. And apps to. The function with Syrian civil war awards hello provided the opportunity for the group should write up suddenly become much bigger than we expected. And but. The event of default and I can turn destroy be different period the damage America. Absolutely right. The group has very little ability to harm much here and let me do you really only in the sense that these certain Gary isolated. Tragic. Small incidents like the ones and Argentina. Ella I think we're gonna go back and I'd like you since we have the the luxury of having a and it Xperia lady with expertise might be professor I'm sorry I don't know ma'am. Thaci research fellow at the Cato Institute to talk about. Ice is where they come from because I think it's the kind of thing that would suddenly surrounded by but yet we don't know actually how we got it. To where we are. But yeah nine talked about this last week after the San Bernardino attacks. The 24 hour news cycle and these channels seven days a week. I get so tired of hearing the nation is paralyzed with fear everybody is on edge. Sergio on some some asking of the people I know even in other cities and nobody they knew was on edge and nobody they knew was panic do our a nation that is afraid it. Is it that is a misrepresentation. In your opinion to say that where. Yeah ices is the kind of thing is that that may happen just like if you go to the wrong part of town early in the right part of town somebody decides to rob you etc. Terrorism is a rich. Get the risks that we're never gonna be able to truly get rid of all I'm very small. Like my colleague just wrote a book called chi can go. About how difficult the news. Two police terrorism. To thank he threatened to find that they're very regular. On the did you have to typical pattern daily life but it is a very albeit. Despite Beckham getting in a car you might and the car crash on yet to keep the third that the relatively. In the night. Armed do we take a break when we come back. Talk about the the origins of vices and how we got to because I've heard different theories on this how we got from. They're two here. Because again I like to say we look at. Life is a snapshot or histories snapshot and it's not it's a motion pictures soak the have a couple more minutes. I appreciated Emmitt Ashford or guests visiting research fellow at the Cato Institute with expertise in international security. She says president try to nicest cannot take over this country there's no way we can lose. And that maybe he did in a way underestimate ices I hope I'm quoting you correctly now at the beginning but. Eighties again correct in that they they're there are a pain they they can strike. Every now and then. But in terms of the conquering the United States and never happened CC so when he disseminating any phone calls or. Comments questions Tommy Tucker back in a flash on WW. This is number organization that. Can destroy the United States this is not a huge industrial power compose great risks to us. Institutionally. Or. And systematic way. And answer resonant talking about ices attacks comes in I don't think the families of those 31 people. In San Bernardino think it was a small event and I'm sure they do not that by the way courtesy of NPR that sound bite. But I think it's like any tragedies he even if it's a fatal accident with a vehicle or an accident with a gun or what have you do the people that are he immediately affected it is. Perhaps sometimes the biggest thing in their lives but in terms of a nation not so much. And that in no way do I mean disrespect to the victims of of anything's needed that they were somebody gets hurt loses a family member. Emma ash reduce our guests visiting a research fellow at the Cato Institute with. Expertise and international security I think Emma before we went to the break I think almost we need to talk about where they came from. How to get to be what they are now if we're gonna have the discussion of how much of a threat paler. Sure. Hang in the story I. Really and the American they can walk into that entry and they're they're not only get back. To the group. Sort started light at the branch al-Qaeda al-Qaeda in the came out pat and it brought it's. But curing unit in the ancient. The people who were at the militants in that group a lot of them reluctantly and you know prison. And they they care a lot of former boss as leaders that people who were at war you were military officers understand change. And things started to eat contacts and public events and actually the product that the organization has both these. A former al-Qaeda militants. These former Iraqi military officers which is partly explained by the effect on the battlefield in cite Iraq there. Can I interrupt 12 ammo when it comes to basses that's political not religious correct. Yeah it can hire people and call them acrid socialist movement that the political party and they belong. And just one day when people get confused with Sunni Shia Kurds and now get Baptist but. That is would be analogous to Republican or Democrat not a Muslim or Christian. Shortly so there get into. A religious element can get most of those officers urged to me. The city's Arab minority you know crop could be held Tyler understand the same. But not on the wild in adolescent patients from you government he didn't know that they're minorities so. You ever which elements but most the political. OK so you gut the people oral L'Oreal to lose Saddam Hussein you got al-Qaeda. Now we're in the American prison. And then what happens they get released. So what sleepy get them to me vomiting light and how it is. A Syrian civil war up T over class are light years. Because it would be hard. By US forces by Iraqi forces in my area. And into that area they were very successful they were able to grab a bunch of land and the interesting thing with me try to start adding not the target. So. They want. Should be a small country and Islamic states patents and then in the last year though they suspect axe and he's it rocks. So initially they were trying to carve out. A piece of Syria for themselves which meant they were at odds with this year aside. But also at odds with all these other rebel groups in Syria. And the fact that insiders teams have had effect could control those two thirds of area for at least three or four years I'd sell that. The polite state they feel. So two thirds of Syria RS trying to overthrow. Aside. This crisis is trying to take a portion of his country. But it prices is not uniting with the rebels they're both. Going against decide for different reasons and in different areas. So I even really attacking you thought he did not have any particular interest in doing so in the areas of Syria that they're in. Are. Beside the regime. All sort of turned up like I I extra long tight because you have to wrest the world say apple all of the Syrian opposition are extreme. And so they had ignored the growing threat from ice and while. So we talk about bracket came out because of the complicated thing with all these different factors. Now they spread back in Aurora. At the time they spread back into Iraq. Because of a vacuum left by the United States. Sure I would say that I know without the light that being put forward the GOP debates aren't too good but the US Gordon dare. With one reason why they were able to strike back into Iraq. But I think we also have to say that you know the fact the US were there in the course. It probably means you can have like that to me though is a little bit and gagged with just blame on the US withdrawal. Since Saddam Hussein is still in power. Mom are we a battling ice is today it is a group even exist. I wouldn't have thought so now that obviously chat noble would have done to catcher back children possible. But the fact is that it would happen overthrown Saddam Hussein and about it we hadn't overthrown former Gaddafi and Ricky that country wouldn't be an action standards. And we. Are we making a fundamental mistake Wendy's may be used you know you see abuse of human rights and and Chemical Ali did in fact use an chemical weapons of mass destruction against the Kurds but. Do we not understand the culture in that perhaps that part of the country needs. A dictator needs of very strong hand to rule it in were operating from a false premise if we think. We're gonna bring self determination or democracy to those countries and fighting thousands of years of traditions and beliefs. Wouldn't go to bars if say that people care. Can't handle democracy or freedom which is kept I think you're implying there. But I completely a sheep eaten chocolate the United States should. Spread democracy. Week we have our own in fact we have to think about the American people about ourselves that our allies in Europe we have to think that was backed loans. I don't believe that overthrowing big key actual content he helped. You know in the Middle East and elsewhere is the best way to protect American citizen. Disease you did not work out so well force either did it. No Egypt where we need. Didn't speak out against who are definitely truth be told the bar he had to go with a lot of chaos potentially another village there. Has again been a problem I think the jury in the Arab Spring led the revolution swept across all these countries. We generally support the off. The very difficult decision for the administration the time. But I think unfortunately history show in back. We made the wrong decision and a lot of cases. Particularly in the cases in Libya and a spot in the area clear lead back. Rabble. Into overthrow and. So before we let you go M mantra visiting a research fellow at the Cato Institute with expertise and international security after the nine elevenths attacks or or since that time I think the US has spent one trillion dollars or more. In security homeland terror of the war on terror is cost one point seven trillion. Is how it's put so if vices. I guess how do you define success for them because if they were for whatever reason. And managed to get a dirty bomb to Wall Street managed to. Cause a massive scale of damages they did in New York or as al-Qaeda did. On 9/11 Osama bin Laden. Could they not. Affect the country deeply cost league country trillions of dollars. Even though they know occupying an in with dad in a way be. A victory if not a defeat of the United States. Accenture tiger hasn't it he is successful ones we as successful as. Germane to sort hacks are talking about there it all leading nuclear material involved in very complex technological. Projects. Involving seeking a lot of people in the country. Extremely difficult to do. And don't. Exactly to change the law. That our security system and set the nine elevenths both police and and I think we have to remember that could be done extremely. Well. We're more likely to see the sort of loan inspired by ice packs like a couple. I am sorry. I think the good thing and I think it would have to accept the cat all the event for Pratt and sometimes. We just have to balance that against. And the most people woods and he had a niners thanks Emma MacDonald women's say Scott age. I haven't been. Home in America. Every time I nailed it thank you so much amount we have a Merry Christmas and happy new year. Yeah I am Ashford visiting a research fellow at the Cato Institute. With the expertise and international security David Blake I mean to brag. At Italian there's one thing I'm good at in his word in this world it is picking up one dialects are better in the 99% of the people would have voted Ireland. But I could buy the little it was a little bit of its nationals on them now. They keep in mind the people are Scott EH the liquor is Scotch. And lower on it each rugs or oriental people are Asian. Just wanted to clear and are right now time required banners to address and time redundant I'm learning things that you are time for double WL offers news and for that. David like there. Illinois only David for Christmas you got the fire please Conan maybe at the centerpiece with the candles and and that the room has that warm low his family and friends gather around the Christmas he's here and countless calls. Gone through your head down to the store to get the last minute and item on its just magical throw you Turkey bones in the fire like Henry the eighth yeah. That would deal. With what you saw the dole and his son's got a god send everybody a fireplace just throw it in the fireplace as you finish eating it. I like the league they fly the furthers farther. Right over your shoulder. But here's the deal if you wanna talk about something. Innocuous does nobody wants a big fight right on her hands a Christmas dinner. So here's the deal with the rain used that as an example. If you don't get in trouble talking about the weather right knowledge that's going to be the first thing you'd say when you come around and then. Change the conversation more feet if you will into a discussion of of global warming. Wryly yes so that talked about. Climate change and ask if for whatever reason the rain that we are experiencing. And the warm temperatures prove. But a fact I would say I would say it is a declarative statement. I would say well yeah announced as the appease please and nations to open appease on the plate I'll tell you this if this rain doesn't convince you that global warming and climate change yeah. Real. I don't know what will sell you'd say it very forceful that saw arrogantly as challenging anybody at the table would take you in on Iranian and then from there. You can have. You have a civilized discussion Gerri you're gonna scientific based discussion again like lines of along the lines of we don't want. I appreciate your opinion I really do but. Let me propose this what if than any other person so you know what I'd never really looked at it that way. If you ever had a conversation with anybody. About anything like that where you actually changed their mind now which makes you think house senseless. These conversations are because here is a form ever listens ever run. There are the only thing new dual and is this formulating would they're gonna say and it's awaiting this and silence. And I mean when they sent silence then it's time after. You talk about small talk to you wanna stay out of the dangers these are not real light element of weather climate change her name. It thank you David to sink so and throw the bones and a fireplace optional hole in the may get a Henry the eighth Christmas. 260101. Housing alone it's a David six words my favorite six words of the holiday Gulfport I thought we said no gifts. Now whether whether you did or not it's a great way to get all the presents common and with that I haven't give anybody anything. They because of shelled and gives me a present only have to say is now our coverage that was a nugget is out and it explains why don't have anything for him. 2601 points and any gaming call help me I get through this last 22 minutes otherwise is going to be me. And things you can talk about the saints last night are ready jaguar opinion poll. How Long Will the season matches last night how long's it gonna take to fix the saints. And apology determined how would you define fixed. I think where every year as they are playoff contender. And they are considered among the league's C lead organizations. And dynasty might be too strong of a word but you know they are always going to be in the hunt. As it stands now one year for their definition of fix the saints say 11%. 37%. Say will be done in two years. And I'm very optimistic over half 52%. Are saying it's going to be three plus years. If you think about the reality of that man downtown onion that's training camps and and let's hope this season we breakeven and and training camps and let's hope we maybe get a wild card and another training camp and all of that's. Plotted against the line of Drew Brees in the clock. Are running out on his career winning antagonist say this to a couple of tanks commend people driving in fog with no lights on Tommy's so pleased. Please put the lights on and be very careful as we mentioned this earlier beat the airy fairy kind very generous it is it's going to be. A war out there for people get the closest parking spot with the rains have been eyes be generous green and number 0940. Twenty before attend Tommy Tucker coming back talking mule and double W. 945. Now a quarter till ten talking about the sing sing and about how long's it take to fix them. And look ahead and ices and when he sixteen written by media. A CBS terrorist analyst I think is very interesting and it makes you think it's more of a ledger. Balance sheet problem then perhaps it is a military problem where at least that could be a solution Allen encouraging the morning on double WL. And I am doing wells are new. It sort. The question crow yeah Ariel. They don't think it sank a current it in batter and crude. And being an area and need to get better. In order here return. Good Coke all. Yeah I think again. Well nothing out of any playoff VOA you come together. He mayor Mary and I think they get in the way play on it consistent base to. You don't always think Alan when peoples say and I certitude not to pick on you but when people say they're young team and they have Magellan every building. And I understand it has to happen so long as you're rebuilding with the right stuff. It's not trying to make house to stand up on a day like today out of cardboard you know. I think our main issue do you think they have the right pieces and please. The acting and the right leisure and grace but I think they need to get bad around the contests remain problem 88. You get bad and indeed and is now we've grandma being stuck on wedding ever go to our. Eight and acting it it got they got it being. Allan appreciate you called quickly cash or gift card if you or actual present if you had to pick your favorite for Christmas. You like you can stay gallon let me tell you have a great day G 60187. Any. If and you would like to get involved. Harvey good morning earn double WL thanks for calling. Character. That particular. Should sit there and it. Shocked at her. Ultimately it should joy. Basic. Senator. Now like what. I. Know it look at. Straight or so out here. The track we. The she's cute and. All sorts. Picked up that equity. You should know. Better. So we'll. Tortured are actors or. It is just. Sheer. He looks to have been at any political impact you at all. It was yeah it. But that work well the call. Much. A lot of about it because after a real shock. There. Are there's. As well well. So I know I'm sure. I'd tell you and I and her son lightning. Uganda and some stability at the top and I think my opinion I reload and I know it's gone on anymore and anybody does but I think. The instability at the top at the court battle I think any of that. Helps anything because they think in a way you could be rudderless ship Lou Dennis motion Dennis left you renters. Try and team for all intents and purposes I understand it the people report to him. By I just think you need some stability there and and it goes oh weighed down in from stability goes accountability. And I don't think anybody is deliberately not doing their job but. In I think we all need for whatever reason. A certain amount of some money did check in the sequel were duel and an engine is giving us an outside opinion I get a Tiger Woods' rebuilt his golf swing. Three times. Professional golfers get coached on their swing professional football players Drew Brees. I'm sure in the film room coaches show him you know he get a little bit of this give and sloppy here Cam Newton and every one epic. I get a text here that I do think is interesting. If from a logic standpoint that says maybe the saints aren't fixed. Maybe this is what the saints are in the Super Bowl was the anomaly. So when you're talking about saints being fixed they were broken when they won the Super Bowl. That that's the kind of thing and just blow your mind. You diocese zero quick in 2016. Bomb. Money. Could be the thing that we have to worry about most with nicest. We mentioned earlier warranty errors cost one point seven trillion dollars and his cause started. With what nine or eleven people flying planes. Into buildings and and finding a weakness in the system. So these stated purpose of al-Qaeda was to Rooney United States economy inning. Didn't rooted but he certainly cost taxpayers one point seven trillion dollars. And some. That people would know some political. NN national security analysts are saying that arises is the best funded terrorist group in history. They've developed a war economy oils sales leads to most of their money the antiquities that they steal as they ravaged the different areas and sell. Are pretty good source of income. And for these people would buy them if they are in the United States you're eating and abetting the enemy and I think they should be. Prosecuted if the link can be made. And then they charge taxes and I don't know if you could make it compares to this country or not. But it's more of extortion. They kidnap people for ransom certainly not in this country. But they have tax collection where they'll seize your property if you don't pay. Which kinda like is away property taxes. Works so the it's this analyst opinion that if you're gonna. Really fight ices you better embed a counter terrorist financing strategy. As part of the counterterrorism. Strategy some maybe the accountants are gonna have a voice in this is well. 9528 before ten Tommy Tucker back in a flash and other WL. Tommy Tucker. So rainy Tuesday morning. But he tells them how the precipitation mirroring the mood of this city. Three days before Christmas. No cold weather inside. A we're running here. Mom Dave Collins coming up next in the thing take a get a text here that I think is pretty interesting. About the saints and it says there's no such thing. As rebuilding in the NFL anymore teams can turn around in one season. And wanna find interesting about this is whoever texted this is right. But that. Depends on the talent evaluation and I guess. The creativity. You can show or use. When it comes of the salary cap. I do know that. Teams have turned it around in one year. But I don't know of if we'll be able to do that. And or somebody texting in saying net them. Did the reason the saints won a Super Bowl is 'cause they cheated with the only thing and they got lucky with the brakes and haters gonna aid man which he would do. Let's say we're gonna do is keep listening for. Dave Cohen because he is in the think tank for Garland Robinette. Coming up and again I'll ask you before I tell you about this please if you're going shopping and Doug don't get enough side over apartment spot normally it's bad enough trying to get. Mir's exit to the door and today I think it's it's going to be frantic so everybody played nice. Dave Cohen coming up in a think tank for Garland and here is what he has planned for years. He's gonna talk about the the situation with the with the saints of course is we have. And he's also gonna hand. The weather. Here we go first full day of winter el Nino or are we in for a warm went winner. Is it because of global warming climate change your normal simple land cyclical activity you prefer warm winter or cold one. And an outside about blood donations from gay men and via the band has been lifted they sell you for calling listening we'll talk to tomorrow morning at six.