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7-1 8am Bob Mitchell, transgender ban lifted

Jul 1, 2016|

Bob in for Tommy Tucker. Bob talks to CBS military analyst Mike Lyons on the Pentagon lifting the ban on transgender service members.

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Thank Chris it's 9 minutes after 8 o'clock other showering going to be talking about should transgender people be allowed to serve. In the military well if it's official transgender person noble no longer be barred from serving openly. In the military lifting the ban on trans gender service members of the right thing to do those according to Defense Secretary. Ashton Carter so. Let me ask your thoughts about your opinion what do you think should transgender people be allowed to serve in the military. What problems do you see a witness or if you are in the military. That would even be better widget if we can hear from you. Is going to be a problem. I don't know I'm not a military. I would hope to think it would not be a problem but. This is one that I'd I'd just even don't have a great opinion so what do you think do you think that there are problems that going to develop it would seem to me that. Tell with with people especially with some of these real. It'll. Alpha males that there could be a problem. Does it matter though as long as they get the job done or is it portion a political agenda on to the military plus. Under this. Situation. It's going to. Also what went let me let me read it here we ago. It will it will ol' ball. It will allow. People who want the the operation of the of the sex change operation. The government's going to pay for and trying to see where more than a year ago. The Pentagon will cover medical expenses related to be entrenched under including the gender read and sign the surgeries. When they are deemed medically necessary. So it means a tax dollars. Will be playing for gender reassignment surgeries are you okay what you can call it Bible port 2601878. And before we go to a break let me read a couple of text message land left over we'll talk about disciplining children. I just because all of view or play doesn't mean that is the reason that you grew up the way you did there equal number of adults who was buying dollar prison. And or are bad people. Coming right back of strong minutes after 8 o'clock a WWL. Our all volunteer force is built upon having the most qualified Americans. In the profession of arms is based on honor. And trust. That is Defense Secretary Ashton Carter I'm Bob Mitchell in for Tommy talk of this morning's 15 after 8 o'clock. Our guest analyst right now is Mike Lyons CBS military analyst. Like first of all that does come as a surprise. Following transgender. Two serve in the military openly. Well I would say that surprised you general officers in the building that it had been studied. Multiple studies actually commissioned by the corporation and others. Concluded that it wasn't going to affect readiness. And so Agassi someone expect it to happen I guess maybe surprised the way it was announced yesterday didn't seem to be. A lot of general officers around a lot of support. You talk to you look into the senator's. That's been a McCain just said he had no idea that this was coming down but down if for whatever reason in interest and so that is to get out this weekend's. How many years did you serve in the military like. Oh which one. Example active and reserve. I'll tell you when you were in the military especially active military. How do you think the people you shore with the men that you serve with would've handled a situation like this do you think do you think it'll be accepted. Well I hope so but again I. It's so difficult that is determined to the culture of each region is very unique and different commander control a lot of the climate that. But it's not easy is it to expect to what's in the best interest in the military as well in the military's mission it is to fight and in the nation's wars and that's. Full stop and I get it that they have the best people and in certain ways but. This seemed to orbit. Over the top in that down yet to what is gonna pay for the transition of these individuals. I don't know how that's gonna work with but with regard to their their active duty Uga thirty days leave a year. That it that it comes out of and this actually works so. I don't know I think that sound like everything else it's a little bit rated buy in proposal and and it would happen uncles group. And I also wonder how the general taxpayer is going to feel because. From what I've understood that these are not chief operations these are very expensive procedures and taxpayer will be paying for us. Yeah that's likely take months and years and I'm not sure it knows that person and be able to do their job. I don't within the military so I don't think now that that affects readiness and a positive manner at some of these. As they have concluded that the number to go on about one point three million. Active duty force to be they don't even know what the number exact numbers but they projected a 2500. Are transgender. Between 500 so that's debut with a 11 system 1%. And then they anticipate anywhere from sixty to seventy of these kinds of operations year it just it just becomes another distraction frankly for the commander on the ground have to be concerned about. And I guess when I look at this and I try to be as open as it obviously can all all the time when I'm on the air. Most military guys are tough guys okay you have to often go in the military can't just. The pants in and go into the military and I just wonder if if if if if I'm a tough on the top sergeant or whatever and IC a trench gender whom. During the week as his funeral formal and little on the weekend he's he's wearing a skirt I mean. I I don't know if everybody can just say it's OK that's his thing I would have to think there's going to be. Whether it's wandered out there will be some type of conflict and things. Right and then look at all the standards that are gonna have to possibly change in terms of physical fitness prime minister to the standards for minimum cost the typical sentences. This person does know and now he identifies as a woman does he get the physical fitness and the out. If you start undergoing the process of changing its gonna take him and it just it just. Way to most of them got in terms of what what's the per again get back to the primary objective. Of the military and the problem likely right now as we leave and unfortunately thought that capability Abbott opened discussion about it because if you come out against something like this your cues that he's transgender. And whatever the other way that there is which is really unfortunate that it's an unfortunate political correctness that exists right now in the country. Because we're at the point now that. If you disagree with some of these issues you can't say look it's just my opinion. You have your own opinion they'll say no you roll so when we we are no longer entitled initials like this to have our own opinion. It's so unfortunate. Result of what they in this in this culture within the night in the military and some problems. And I couldn't decide when and a lot a lot of it has to do with just the semantics of of this war on terror we're trying to fight in his Islamic terrorism is that you know it's. It is set and getting caught up in a lot of different and little brother and then it's. I just think we're keeping some practical perspective and again Obama for liberty and equality in the whole thing. But there's also the district is gonna pay for the condos and stability congress has said before congress passed the bill made in nineteen they had it figured out that before. To what secretary of content there and speak eloquently by himself. And I'm a topic that frankly affects the one that the 101%. Of the military. And not even bigger guys gonna pay for the good example of a little bit of that over to the government doing right now. Well and and again it's the majority have to suffer for the very very small minority incensed. I've I've never been in the military. And a lot of friends in the military and they say that. It's it's a close close knit groups so how are these people going to feel. If one of their members have to take off which you allude to a little earlier take a lot of time off to go through the gender reassignment while while there are busting their botched this person is awful to doing in that this type of surgery. I would have to think that there's going to be a little hey man you know you need to be pulling your part of this team. Yet there's going to be resentment is no question that I'm 44 no question and that is the military from my experience is. It took place in the world where you are truly great you know two factors are competent and the commitment and and it really is that simple. I can tell you go back twenty years ago we never had any any issues of race we will have to almost thing. And even Franklin homosexuality. And individuals in my unit that would conceptual that. They're really homosexuals but it was one of those things where that could become the forefront thing that they could serve with under me I get it back then and in the grand scheme of things that. Didn't have the protection under your Protective Life because they were the most competent and committed people that. Want to serve what's so it is you know it is a little bit kind of strange how this administration is reaching. On something that really isn't really the problem. Mike thank you for being part of the show this morning. On it's Mike lines Libya's military analyst good to a good interview. All right is it good for the military for chance for transgender people to be allowed to sir. And or does that matter as long as they get their job done and as a taxpayer are you okay. Which spending taxpayer dollars on gender reassignment. Surgeries and appear in the military boy would we like to hear from you the swollen but in general do you think it's okay is it good for our military. Is it going to help strengthen our country is to help strengthen our military. If you're and transgender people or allowed to serve openly in the military want your calls at 260170. Text me at age 7870. Ticket traffic break and come back and Drupal calls on WW. The effective medium. Transgender Americans may serve openly. And they can no longer be discharged or otherwise separated from the military just for being transgender. That is Defense Secretary Ashton Carter lifting the ban on trans fender service members. Is he says it's the right thing to do do you think it's the right and you think this is good. For our military and how do you feel or you OK with spending tax dollars on gender reassignment. Surgeries I think this is the one that's going to be the toughest thing for people Tuesday. Now on the in my textiles for operations OMG. OK let's go to Berrian Bogle to Barry. First of all is this good for the military to allow transgender people to serve openly. Absolutely probably bit they're. Beat but their freedom to your trip simply don't know well operation but what they saw. Go to Trenton is being conservative military duties in remote area. So many that it's been moser and mechanical tools mullah pro Newton live tutor is it. We've been out there out texting or how to be used to two to do to change it to transform dispersant. Not if the president are reluctant emblem and a woman. Burnett Mitch king why are also asking a bit whatever. Ed Ed in the mold them into it going to be they've been there and cement its long leave it will be. I've Cheney this summit to meet you how money do that well. Is say here's here's what I don't understand about this and maybe it's just me me being done. Like Q if if you've already had the operation. You've already switched genders. That's a little bit different situation but if I understand the definition of trench gender. It's how you feel than the words. I'm a man and on another man's body I look like demand but of undecided all of a sudden you know I really I feel closer to. The female side then. All of what I have to do if I'm wrong some of the got a call and correct me if I'm wrong that I could say all right I wanna start living my life as a woman. Rather than Robert a wanna be reversed and that means like a total and a wig and and a dress and walk around as a woman say I want to live my life. As a woman understand that that is. Part of the definition ambient trance gender well can you imagine. If this happens in the military domain I just don't know if we have got to the society that we could not. That we can accept that. Outlook with a bottle well a lot of grief but I don't own. The other Democrat and then picked in there and and and I'm not a pre. I'm a Democrat but I believe that some people in my report you dispute these thoughts and fought. And maybe some interpret well a bulletin fought with peers it's so you recruit. As political agenda you're right. Well Barry thank you thank you for thank you for phoning in this morning. All right if if you were in the military are you have served in the military. It would be great to get your opinion on this especially if if you serve or few Serbian right now. Would you be able to handle let's look is this something that would not cause conflict it is something that wouldn't would not cause them. Well I'll use the price kidding around I would have to think that this could be very very disruptive. Should transgender people be allowed to serve in the military is this the best thing for our military are we getting. Are we weakening our military by Tryon always do everything so politically correct. It isn't isn't isn't going to strengthen our military. It doesn't matter. What you are hard you live your life as long as you get the job done. Or do you think this was pushy and political agenda on the on the militant Barry are brought up a point that he says he's okay. With transgender serving but he's not okay. With spending taxpayers on gender reassignment surgeries. And according to. Defense Secretary Ashton Carter he says good people are the key to the best military in the world under the new policy dependent on. Will cover medical expenses related to be entrenched gender including. Gender reassignment surgeries. Or you OK with that. Spending your tax dollars to six year old late seventy. Text me at 87870. Gupta lines global beloved talk to you with it's 830 news time of course Miller on WW well. I'd thank you Chris it's eight 38 I have to military people to get to them right away but let me read this text much of for a quick like. I was dismayed about yesterday's news regarding transgender in the military I did not actually get to thoroughly read the information that came out of are you saying that the military taxpayers. Will be playing for gender reassignment surgery was not included in yesterday's announcement. Here's basically the announcement from defense laboratory after car. I'm lifting the ban on trans vendors it is the right thing to do it's another step and ensure that we continue to recruit and retain the most qualified people. Good people that either the best military in the world. Under the new policy the Pentagon will cover medical expenses related to be in transgender including gender reassignment. When they are deemed medically necessary let's go to Bob a little short Bob your former military correct. Yes sir. Retired US army all it took. Well thank you for serving our country first of all. What do you think of this is just gonna work of the military a as a gonna cause more problems are it's going to be smooth. Well there's a vehicle back or going to in 1960 outsold the last unit. That was. In a very good at fort McClellan Alabama in 1961. Point certain generator company out of the 81 Dixie division I was an inspector general at Fort Hood. When. We got women out of the women's army corps and integrated them into the army. And now they can do to combat arms I think it is in my opinion. Oh. Your. Summary overview by changed my mind. Kind of thing is not the way it is it is same weird. Gays and lesbians in the military. And I always would stands at these these. Don't Ask Don't Tell it never made sense. The genders surgeries and gender change surgery your argument is also fallacious. Follow because. Seven kids all in military hospital. Anyone out form toward our ability to seven dollars and fifty cents a day. And it wouldn't mind towards to have that many children. And I don't see where gender. Reassignment surgery. I mean if the or else appendicitis. You don't say well you know maybe we should pay for maybe we shouldn't. So as a as a taxpayer you were during comfortably paid for gender reassignment surgery. You know. Oh. We're Palin. Two million dollars apiece for airplane I don't see where that some problems and we already have a work thousand transgender folks serving in the military. And it ends in here you go you know back with the argument can they do their job you're looking for the best qualified. And I hate to tell folks that when you're in a box sold in the bullets are flying. You don't care. Sex is not the first thing crosses your mind. All right Bob thank you so very much does do you agree with Bob Bob says he doesn't see any problem with trans drenched vendors serving and he sees no problem no difference and if if they needed. That gender reassignment surgery should be provided by the military what do you say. 260187. It would take a break at 841 and come right back on WW. I'm Bob Mitchell into Tommy this morning 845 quick text message Bob. This country's going crisis. It's not going crazy it is crazy. Just look at the two people running for president let's go to. Roger on the road Roger you are retired military now we had a retired military person last caller. And he said he sees no problem for transgender serving and he thinks that there that we should offer. Three. Surgery. Gender reassignment surgery to you agree. I disagree completely. Personable. The army is or their behavior archer is not social picture our job in the old to be able. Protect the country are rights they had the right picture. They should not be able to. On a whim or whatever. You say OK yeah I think at they'll likely dates and on June. Chinese Eldridge. Reassigned sir you're looking at people move in the combat arms like Serbia and that. But still we're in every day to keep the arena and keep. People out there standard. What is the difference between. Have a sub standard soldier so well I can't neat stuff like what eight India. Physical standards and as a man well I'd do it can go and as honorable lady. I am. Let my peace peace corps are going to be different. Buying a light weight standards that we effort everything is yet. Looks like an access. It does cerberus is not a so which currently campaign for. Did reassignment is totally unreachable. We have retired military people we have military people there. Can't get the proper care because they've shut down or reduce the services. Medical so. I know for a fact that there's. Active duty people. Who actually killed two Soviet doctor because they can't get the proper treatment at a Belcher facility. That true at all exes which church locates. One of the questions I would like to ask the Defense Secretary is isn't likely will you brought up. If a trench gender joins Google. OK let's say hypothetically. Me you know I've I'm a male. I have a small body. And I say line and I'd I don't apply as a female and I realized that there are a lot of people go to them I'm not making fun of it and I'm not dogging him a lot of people go through that. But then when they joined the military. They have a male body. Do they have to pull apply. During the physical exam and and and the tests both the you know the look the public that the list of the physical but this does today after qualified. Under. Men's standards or women's. And and that's and that's exactly what my points. The military standard for physical training is entirely. Different than it is for for male and female. It's been that way. Well so I would crafted in the seventy yeah pictures. It. The finder all of different requirements are different and because of the make up well the natural break up a result. Again and I can see in a combat or. Infantry artillery armor. Were. Or you're Russia but on the bet here actually. Diggins. In blowout in drug content that we can be I have not. Have a problem with. But again. There's that much their perch in the in the we're trying to do. It is so they're evil the city or you're going to be all that mean good outlets as though standard ego equalize the standard. You know it. Like cities it's the history. As always. Try to make this age so which where they want to bolt cute they're. Ordered. Well Roger. Go ahead finish a sentence or can go to break. Good a lot trying to just my opinion. I'm sure. It doesn't mean anything with the current reading and anybody hostages. Or are all right thank you Roger text message there would be such new trend strangers to in the military it shouldn't be as big a deal if you're trying to make it out. And also your bias. Against the transgender community is starting to show. Nick and by Amanda and understand that. Don't draw in discuss something you war of parade. I'm not afraid to discuss in this I'm telling you point like that I'm not sure. Depending on on on qualities. How I'll trench vendors. Are used in the military yeah I don't know if it's for the cause a problem again. It's my understand and if I'm wrong have a view or transgender column incorrectly it's my understanding that. If a man decides and truly on I'm not I'm not saying that he makes about if he truly on the inside fields. That he is a woman and he wants to dressed as a woman. How are deal how how the other guys available for eagle and it's make that. That doesn't open up in oh. A lot of law. A lot of discord that that's on trial this. And if you wanna be part of the show you can call me at his six year old 1870. Number one. You were active duty military hang on I'm will be with you right after this slowed traffic update on WW. It's 855 quick text message before I go to number one. As the US marine who served two tours in Vietnam the very idea of the Obama administration turning the military into social experiment turns mind. Stone there's a questionable to build trail shall pay for breast implants. For females who went and applied as female but you will have been smaller. Brush makes them appear masculine. I don't think shall put to good question number 1 or you this morning. Great value military active duty to act. I think it do you see this being a problem in the military. I'll see it as a problem when it comes easy when they're certainly. Incurred as a commitment and ultimately that's what they're cosmetic surgery so that you questioned one that would implement. I know that and now well now let's get. On earth on this particular issue of forestry gender reassignment it's the have to be deemed medically necessary about the military. I understand but I get it through as a 'cause medically. It's not authorized this product and beaten and have. Somebody can't handle com predicted by example implantable. I'm glad that it's not OK okay. Do you think the guys who served in the military would have a problem. While serving with. Like a set suppose it is a man who was just going through the early stages of the entrenched under but he but he wants to wouldn't apply as a female. So as his right not to be discriminated against. It would be okay for him to Wear a dress now would would that would that cause disruption in the military and as a couple of calls have said. What he qualifies them physically as a woman that was forced to the test or man I would publicly determine if there would have to do as a woman I would think. It directly above my pre created. You know there'd be somebody else. Think that the print and bring more. Creepy character more than a minute or impairment review com for more important marker down. No yeah. A ball or more you know we used to bird on it sure figured. And you know he's there. What is wrong with Jacob racks and basic. People. Other male or female you know court. Ordered oh lead. What he'd do it in an at. A big problem that's what you're opening here at the moment and. And I would I would think that. The discipline to keep people from being harassed would be really really tough I'm not saying they should be harassed they shouldn't. But in all human nature human nature and I just don't know if the military is running for that him and I'm sure the Defense Secretary knows more than I do and that's why I wanna talk to asthma as many. Military people as we possibly can this morning. I'm sure I'm sort of going to be you know until courtroom wall made of comfort you know of that nature but you know it. You know of course you know dignity and human nature it happened. And the protector and let people may contain due pertinent my best sales. You know. All right number one. They could interpret. Thank you for. Phoning it in we will continue this discussion next hour and give you a couple of other things to talk about if you wanna. Called during the news Jordan to just have to go right out of pop Leo our Bob Mitchell and atomic bunker on WWO.