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8/17/16 9:10pm Double Coverage with T-Bob & Kristian

Aug 17, 2016|

We’ll travel around the SEC West to see how the rest of the LSU Tigers opponents will fair this season. Is Bama still the biggest threat the Tigers face or could another team be the big surprise in the SEC West?

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So what's going on welcome back to double coverage here on your rally in math and dot com. It is for 46 says Carolina Panthers might be the NFC favorites pitcher now because any true leadership under sooner. Someone give the big or someone give the boy wonder pass fire. See him take his matters not Big Three can you be look man. I hide they give your. Saying that Cam Newton is not a leader or did they give viewers that you say that. The Panthers are not NFC favorites because of Cam Newton the reigning NFL MVP who has only gotten better each year and lead I would just say just take a step back. Ask yourself and your being truly objective and this may step. Three in the Gatorade so much man it's. You got to give credit where credit's due Cam Newton has and spectacularly alien that's why the Panthers have won three divisions in a row. And it's widely look like they're going to make it four but on this hour of double coverage. Org around the SEC review target John Solomon and John Solomon CBS. National college football writer for CBS sports dot com. We're gonna talk SEC is week. Preview. Each of the SEC west teams have they look this far in camp when the big strings. What are the weaknesses. How they stack up against LSU's strengths and weaknesses the first you did finish our NFC south or pillaging that we haven't talked about. Atlanta Falcons man she going into this camp Dan Quinn the winner. Set goals for the dogs they wanted to be the best attacking team and to improve the turn every shoot thriving competitive situations. Indian games emphasize team speed and established. Communication. It should come to note super it should come as no surprise. That many of these goals actually Mir this sinks own goals that they have set themselves a season but. Make sense as a lot of times teams that struggle deuce go for relatively. Similar reasons. Reportedly Arthur Blake is happy with the team he says it's faster team he's ever had. It is fifty years Roger what else is he going to Saban didn't think it was a bit interesting. That he poured out while Matt Ryan threw for over 4000 yards for the fifth year row and he completed 65% of his passes. Blink did not believe that Matt Ryan had a very good year. Last season and you can see that reflected in the falcons' front office as they went out and paid my man from Cleveland mr. Alex Mack too right. Not only is that an excellent ninety's Nickelodeon show but he's also one of the best sinners in the entire NFL three time pro bowler. Signed a five year 45 million dollar deal. Back in March 28 point five guaranteed. So one of the battle sinks into an oil cal for. In these early. Falcons saints match ups are going to be Tyler Davis in verse Alex Mack John Jenkins verse Alex Mack basically was ever there in the middle. Against Alex Mack. Are the link also pointed out that two years ago the falcons defense is in the bottom of the league. Last year they were the middle of the pack in this year he expects him to continue. That trajectory. But how did they look in their first pre season game and a well. It looked so so they just show you how do you care really paid digital that wins and losses in pre season they won the game. Torre 370 but the first group did not look that well it was match job in the second group that. Port on those points but in the two possessions and Matt Ryan played no completions and two possessions no completions and no first downs. 23 announce for Ryan and that first team offense. That said. The defense did hold the Redskins to just 31 half points despite the fact that Kirk cousins was five of five. On his single possession by by her nanny arts have been checked out action. Going on there. In in other notes Tim L issues Deion Jones it seems like everybody in the AFC south has a good LSU player except for the saints. Deep though continues to press there's talks that he may start. And in the first recent game he had five solo tackles including one tackle for loss so well. Big. Big start for Deion Jones heads viewpoint Tim speed and LC players Jalen Collins the falcons quarterback in first round pick. Of a couple years ago were you married. He had he is suspended for the first four games colleges are ramping art. One thing the falcons will look to fix is it going into the season they they got a better on the pass rush. Last three years they'd finished 29 thirtieth in the dead last 32. In total sacks they brought in Dwight Freeney who might be deadly aids sex in fourteen games last year. Kim did that squeeze again they squeeze a little bit did you setting him. Does it could be easily. Improved here in year number two really increased their pastors is probably the single most critical. The single most critical aspect of or this it was terrible question problem facing this Atlanta Falcons team. Other new names to look out for in a dirty bird uniform they may have used you Mohamed sued new at wide receiver we mentioned Dwight Freeney now this in new deal was met. We've kind of got flaws and they paid why. When they signed the sign Mohammed some news. Never be any number two receiver. Took a five year 32 million dollar deal to beat a number two receiver opposite of Julio Jones. Well. Does far. It's not working out too well he's exe and a neck and neck battle would just and hardy for being that number to any do you get paid that much you're not supposed to be. In a neck in neck battle. I guess fortunately for Atlanta though unlike the saints and really like the rest of the NFC south. Almost no injury problems of which to speak of the only guys on their injured list you winning even recognize their name so it's basically. Now word midget Todd I think that's that's one of the most are into rapid appeared to him. That's one of the most disappointing. Disappointed things that I did the came across or reading about all the different and sees teams. And aviation it's a disappointing in that their players are not unheard more disappointing. For saints fans here locally. In that it seems that New Orleans is the only one who's dealing with some pretty significant injuries. When you're talking about how leaky job shelled Americans. Keenan Lewis. I won't put Damien swan on that list but those three right there. Those are big players who are now no longer available. None of these other NFC south teams have that same issue at said Tim. What are do I think the NFC south the shakes up after church or brown after read what's going on I think Carolina is the obvious number one. Did it to him. I'm a bit torn between the saints in the falcons. I still yes I know I know I know you got the falcons on the bottom and using the the bucks and I freely man. The books have all the potential the world both on offense and defense. But until I see them. It's the inconsistency. Be counting coaching changes the regime change is I just can't get behind the blocks. Because of dues changes in philosophy even our guest upgrading your options cornered relatively stable. Sort of the bucks in the last. Painters and burst. Falcons and saints kind of jumbled up in the middle. I guess in the end of this aids and this is a bit of home where attitudes or whatever take it as you well. Under the sink slight edge over the falcons just because we all know about the continued dominance of Sean Payton. Over is eight TL rivals. Once they used my way off base here the saints' worst. And the press this is to beat the Panthers do you taxi Tiffany Tiffany call final four teams still wanted to be coming up next though. When to talk to John Selma remove him a little college football as we look at it we will talk about the SEC west. Solomon is a national cultural warrior for CBS sports dot com coming up next your double coverage on WW. Quarterback to double coverage here on WW LAM abdomen dot com right now it is my pleasure to be joined by John Solomon national college football reporter for CBS sports dot com and Paul on Twitter at. John Solomon CBS. John that's going comment that you so much for joining us tonight. It so. Of this hour we're going to be talking a bit of SEC west football we're going to look outside of LSU as we attempt to guest. Or just. To learn to be a bit about the other six members of this SEC west in. What kind of red are where were they slot into the hierarchy there and who will win. This west now a lot of people think it's between LSU and Alabama so we'll take you out of that John and we will start with Alabama. There are questions who's right who's going to be the quarterback out your police eyes are red deer came. Do you any of these questions have you I'd like have you backed off from Alabama and all or is it still the same old tide which makes. Even. In the league. Yeah it's kind of the same all that mean that that there are parts or write a legitimate question but. We've been to the years I mean we Alabama has replaced quarterback to look at their third straight year that the but the new quarterback coming in. So ultimately kept in Denver likes them so that well when national championship Jake brokers so. That's not as big an issue because Alabama so that they can win without it now. Date they've gotten new market actually net that's going to be a question normally in the Arab Alabama and parts. Weren't able placed a starter. The number you guys typically have been getting the number where Richardson by Mark Ingram or Pierre Henri moving in that they'd be getting curious. Before and really not picky it's horrible errors. Who in most likely that you guys. Up to Eric and Ryan Kelly ever think that needed their big law replaced by. They are really counterpart receivers and the beat sent the stock market voted so I think doctors at the paper. Yeah like I. I'm I'm equally line review law I love the team that LSU has returning they still have to prove they can get over the Alabama hump. Stayed in the state of Alabama John. Looking at Auburn I think it was damn thing that I can say about Auburn is that within the span of a couple of years. They have gone from buying for national championships to now. I can't really name any of their players. Complicated but it is quite honestly I am I reading articles about him and I don't know anybody's talking about what are the big question please don't like where's your strength and weakness is do they. Any chance of bursting onto the scene like they did at the beginning of the gusts males on there. Tiger to be having players like about it. But your right actors in them they can all they're. There's no one stands out at all I mean at least on the law that each is going to be crawling out there to them. It out with what public critique it depends upon maturity Adam I think it could be pretty on the line. It comes back the quarterback questions Betty. Don't ask me what looks like the really good quarterback Tom get my get the chocolate and start the year starter and you probably that there task short summer and in that sense because. I think Margaret think he can make great decisions that are playing got out on top and treated you good morning quarterback and now. At a department Jon Frankel third. Who segment lecture you that the hearing about them. Did you tell you each teacher in order. Retreated to their inter content and over property kind of a primadonna old ears and buying tech quarterback job as you can oak. But she's not very accurate patch each area clinic and Ron are committed to growing and then they lost. Two under par and running back here just me and the Nazis and long rock Thomas turning crow. And the other arm between them it's a patent barker turned pro council -- aren't simply changed an image on Robinson. They doubt kicking out and leaving schools though. It their parent or running back last year greens are 200 yards sector top leading returning rush. Mom yes a dire straits. There in Auburn for the war eagle and based on the John Solomon at John Solomon CBS on Twitter covers college football for CBS sports dot com. And John another team that I find very intriguing iron the Ole miss rebels. Beaten Alabama two years in row there when he US CC teams with aid starting quarterback that theory good that is returning. For another year but they've also lost a lot Larry console gone a lot of that. Highly touted draft class shirt and she'd be recruiting class from a couple of years ago gone they've also dealt with a lot of drama. This offseason. What are you expecting out of the rebels this year urgency the black bears the rebel. Oh. At the very direct and it they have top quarterbacks term in the street. There are a lot of them or really it right back which actually is good and you know he may be quite on Sunday in the future he gets eaten here. OPEC elite gives you experience order. Some other weapons that are here one keeper. But you're and it paid off so many good players from the lynching. It was really or she reached cruising. And you due to problems at home minister when you finally get yes it's Egypt should gain because. If you beat Alabama flights that you still can't get to hear that championship in imports are. I'm I'm can bank on beating Alabama. If your school or merit which is historically. Doesn't. Help him put. Yeah I do in the against LSU fans Peterson over here wishing they can beat Alabama once again. Now Jon stayed and the state of miss Sydney let's look at mr. B state. They've had really good success under Dan Moline. However a lot of big Lilly's last couple years can be attributed to deck press god who was incredibly an incredible college quarterback he is gone now. How badly does that affect mr. Selig or they kind of starting over again now that up Prescott's left. You are and so. I think probably see them picked by a lot of people eat six or seven division. The meaning they can do better I think eight. Potentially could that children can contend for division titles and indeed indeed. Little packet that's a credit that they lost retirement and digging you. It is their completion of its schools like almost in a statement until now. Not going to be a knock on them when the other schools from him we'll collect the traditional problems. Are clicking. It just a moment and state historically can not stay up there consistently they just haven't you know really an area that. So that could be a case where you know Ellis huge roar is right back out if they're chased. And someone that that tackled immediate so that's maybe miss state. And John we got about an Atlanta at a CBS news updates real quick. I guess we'll just in on Arkansas man Brad Dielman coming I'm very impressed with deal of mine as a coach. I'll where he took that program over to where it is that now it's Dan wolf it's been night and day. Billy. It's currently the Alabama road block can Arkansas really bide for championships where does Arkansas paid into this west higher can. He didn't want to do like about our argument that they put it toward Charlotte mostly to just go to the tempo spread all went to them just physical grind it out worse. What actually double coverage of the material impact him. Dot com. He got me here in our view here in our latter groups studios. You take LSU and Alabama out of the equation. Which SEC west team could potentially by for a championship who's the next best who could. Hurdle boost your during the Dow who's the next missed out of those two text. It's him needs at any knowledge go to the phone lines. David in Atlanta wants to talk a bit about the saints can driver David dub him. I treat Bob paper broad. Due. I got your level of your. You're more of our cars fire up buyout ever. Or our premiere or an aria group heard oral and brought it though corporate parent or stretched out by the bulk or longer Aurora. Yeah man I actually when I was younger I had some sort of call orders and the camera agreed and he was 98 yards. May he 99 and he threw it too was it. Michael Haynes yes right. Wanna try and I'm worried. All of that bigger and we're we're out party ought to read the Parker. Back in Bobby JR star quarterback. Popular at the starter than it because it currently addressed familiar. And our preacher reverend letter before ground Abigail about import surrendered where there are shorter overall. Or a march. Or call editor. He stayed it will thanks for the kind words are yeah I had I literally are now very yet go after. About. Eric Eric. You know upper elementary other element atrocity. About I bet I figured out and are there any goals the ball and the number one goal. What about your voting quarterback caught. Very very well. Well when their sites like when LB on one side. And parole. And has back in 2009. There are you along. Color we like Rihanna back and all that I am not. This kinder gentler. There are buddy. Old amateur all timers. Well first book about Obama. Letter. Your impression. In Oakland apartment or optional. Yet this is it's like Tim says man this is the Tennessee football air of the NFL and and it's a wide lead continues to make more more money people love offense. They have made the rules more often friendly David for let's go man Hattie how how do you feel about your falcons this year. Well I'll tell you that that they really haven't ever really a lot of cheap or the terms are pollution brought. You know I really don't chill are great they're urged wish we would I report or bridge but you know. Our idol award here. One or your word perjury or start and where in together. You know I like what we're running out our our managers. And the direction that they are going so. It is a lot of what you feel like there's going to be great right. All a few hours or return the church on the cultural. That's a little David I they did very well said my friend and you have an excellent night. Thanks for the trip down memory lane and David dead don't know ocean that was a completely. Level headed conversation. Between. Two people who cheer for bitter rivals although the listeners of this show. Know that I myself and secretly it's huge falcons you can blame me my dad did not raised me to be used to used to trash isn't. When he was younger he were easy to be falcons fan talking about how they treat him better except that. But whatever that's neither here or they'll get back to our SEC west conversation that animal bite you in the next couple minutes. If there is a team outside of LSU and Alabama. Who's the next best in the SEC west who can challenge him for the western Durham. I mean I would have to say Ole miss just because they have Ted Kelly. But they get and candidates it's human race it's either LSU or Alabama comes out of this at the end of the first. The exact opposite of Albert's agent 000. You called wired get that out of their eight. Take that take Ellis Alabama November did take it all out. Who's the next best he's the next best in the west. Ole miss has the best quarterback in the SEC Chad Kelly summer league Ole miss here I don't like Mississippi State I don't like Harvard this year so. Eliminate them then you have Arkansas Arkansas lost their running back they lost lot of offers of well now I'm not taken on either summoned after Goldman's. Yeah I mean I'm with you man and I think about Texas a and because my my initial goal a case of my initial instincts also is ago Gomez mainly because Chad Kelly. But then again like we settled this has lost quite a bit as well but it. They've consistently recruited well even past that number one or number two class wherever they ended up so. They still have some left in the tank. But looking around me like we said all burned. Who was who was on Auburn I don't know anything about Auburn anymore I really dead Jeremi Johnson quarterback last year who was absolutely terrible even though he was going Heidi the amber yeah he's good organizer and mediated bill nobody I've. He went and started a few games in the year. Like I tried to read up all over the only this is to give you an idea where the Auburn Tigers are at. This is the most positive aspect about the 2016 Auburn team. Is that they have three players are returning on the offensive line. With a at least when he appearances. So if nothing else they have a bit of a line experienced but they don't have a quarterback. They lost. Over a 180. Error 170 tackles are the production out of their line backing core. And like we said may be most dean amenable this is the team that would for national Prague prominent stood to do. What leg here. Using an Auburn. And going back to what you said about sex in and I mean they're they're talented team but he did lose their quarterback they're bring in Trevor night he was. Now famously known for being an Alabama that one game and everything else has been terrible eyes. And put steel that's where AM in May be remains a bit intriguing because they too have recruit well now. That said I have been highly critical of a and M this off season I don't know what the hell is going on there. When you look at Kevin summoned so you talk about going from the penthouse to the outhouse in the manner a couple of years how many like OK if Trevor night follows the Texas a and M quarterback plan. He will be a Heisman candidate by a week three. And then by week's seven Hillard transferred to another school and they'll be starting and new QB like for whatever reason Kevin zooming cannot. Hold down that quarterback position. He does celebrity Jones seals thirds it was a very very tough on the water receivers so. I mean there are sleeper but at the same and then the day I just can't pick Dana because LSU as yet police have them. You know late in the season I think that's the game or she should win. Oh absolutely absent but but his horse to finish is third. I think in him is intriguing but at the end of the day Chad Kelly. The fact at Ole miss has beat Alabama two years in a row though have Alabama at home again this year. I think I gotta give it I think it against the rebel black bears and so congratulations. Ray Huard the third favorite I guess it's easy west for whatever that means. Oh we do that reveals we'll talk a little miss to be stayed talk more or consult as they remain to be an intrigue and finally Tim of course. We'll talk Alabama as well to double coverage or WW LI MF from an account. All DMX bring you back from break. Here excited to be talking about it I would real to me Tolbert but whatever made its efforts of sleep and OK can I will say this. As far as our conversation of who's third best in the SEC I think I've got to change my answer. While Chad Kelly remains the easy. Pick because its quarterback in the conference and has new quarterbacks in its. One of the few names that have that kind of star power the the the more you look into it and the more we talked about it in the break it's got to be texting him right. Com. Trevor Knight wall he hasn't had good gains outside of that I'll be in the game we've also seen that regardless of who's under sinner. Kevin some linking get some one you can produce numbers to see at least have an incredibly good receiving corps miles gear in the deep offensive line. Miles here may be the best player in the SEC. Now it's kind of set the later for next and Tim just defensively yes exit against the best defensive player may be in the entire country. It miles Garrett. Ed the big question her name is candor deepens be worth a damn he still gave up two yards rushing per game last year and I don't. And in John. But it was not liquid chief left Tennessee came to LSU and and jade has that tiger defense is absolutely dominant but between Jon shave his eight. Somewhat of an aim at quarterback. Might scare a very good receiving corps and then as you point out Tim not a lot of expectation on the scene in team got to be. You're third best team their also. Tim had told Tilda our finalists in Saudi T told me about that recruiting class. During the break point fourteen. Us though less miles and amino and affirmed that you know Alabama class. Tex and it was actually third overall corneas skin that year in the odd dream making so they did they got miles guarantee that's beating goal here from the world's got a couple other good players. And the same way in which win that class signed it LSU we were already looking forward to this year. Well an M those players from that third and crude recruiting class they have now matured they are now ready to take the field so Indian I think atop their he has to be bear much. LSU then Texas a and M followed by. Ole miss now let's talk about Alabama what are their strengths and weaknesses. Well take. Like how many other teams into this this is just what's so shocking about the level of consistency that I Nick Saban has been able to perform with. At Alabama how many teams could lose their starting quarterback not have a clear place. Lose the highs in the Heisman Trophy running back who had. Who set records over to Bell's new Yorker Jimmy was absolutely spectacular. Down the stretch use your quarterback you lose your Heisman running back you lose some key offensive lineman I believe they have their place in our Ryan Kelly. And Negroponte we'll see you lose all these key positions and yet still. You received more first place votes than any other team in the entire country that is why. I say don't connect repairs as though early two thousands lady you know late ninety's mining teams and yet that was like the so kind of before Larry Coker had full control and went down like the Butch Davis. Miami or not the butch Dave is well you know I guess it was butch what would be Butch Davis ran into Larry Coker right. Did Jimmie Johnson to run into Butch Davis though now. That would those are two different Miami airs I'm combining two different areas of the USF three wash the thirty for thirty and yet we do you have three lots of third 32 vehicle to integrate maybe my favorite third third. Abiola Alabama thing is. Three out of the last four years they've replaced quarterbacks. We've seen him replace running back after running back well with Heisman guys right 100 edwards' eyes and obviously they have another running back. When the highs and good news is he won both Scarborough. That's the big name is he need giant is only the monster he's the same size Derek and a and that I can see the headlines about Alabama as fires are quarterback transfer to be really. Oh well. They're leaking talent. But it's like hey when you only sign five stars that means it's a five stars reportedly be aired on the depth to our speeds yet they there's a good chance. Daddy can lead so be hammer out whatever they're gonna be strong mainly because their defense is still going to be credible. Jonathan Allen can Williams I mean who knows how many first round picks they have on that side of the ball. But it literally just like last year there doesn't seem to be a weakness. On the offensive side of the ball now one. Little interesting thing to note that can be taken one of two ways is that neither team scored. In the Alabama's spring game until the very variant. So part of that is like we said it deep injured seemingly no weaknesses but partisan maybe that opened his. As effective but then again they've had months to work since then. But the big question we tied the hands is. Who will be their quarterback. Chris were wall should be a Bleacher Report dot com says a two man race during trooper Bateman and Blake Barnett. But. Some of the news coming sale today a public comes at the height you regarding freshman quarterback Jamie Lynn hurts. This is a kid he's attending to become the first true fresh restarted gamma under Saban third ranked dual berg Ackerman high school. He's a former power lifter and high school to him he squatted 500 pounds is a soft war. It was not skipping like high school. Compete in the 198. Pound weight class as a junior and high school he binge to 75 and squatted 585. And to force export. And reports are that he's been carried up Alabama scrimmage is so look at how Alabama may have any truth raw auction at quarterback in. Mr. Jalen hurts. Or when we get back ramped up our number two here a double coverage. The B to BLE a map from dot com keep potential they Timmy Timmy. You can always call 5042601. Hates him. No they're. Am WW any amendment back home. Merrill's you have a bear get a text from. Steve court. And six is voice radio says relish you can't beat Arkansas. You know this and like yeah I mean I wish I had a rebuttal blip. I've talked about a lot in the show the last couple of years. LSU has gotten thoroughly outplayed. By arguments audible and got outplayed and they've gotten Al Coates like Brett be Obama's staff. As on this LSU tigers number now okay stamps that you. Yeah your joke boy you easily figure in the region AG's which premiered in that's what a lot of LSU fans feel. However I will say this winning eighteen. Gains what 100 and like. Thirty yards in the game is that what it was two years ago in Arkansas I just remember that we can and we took pelicans T wolves game. And the pelicans put up more points. It tells you had total yards to me that's about one player that he's a much bigger than one player that the team gain it's asking its also great coaching staff. Getting Al game plan horde. Brad Beale minds that as Al coach last closed up hoard these last couple of years and they make it three and around. I don't know I don't think so. Because well they're having are placed their entire opens back field. Alex cons that are running back for them westernized in the reineck policies Seattle Seahawks and they're losing their almost their entire line. I think oh she's more talent this year and should beat them but I also be a close game look. Arkansas one of the reasons they do you match up with Della she's still well is that since Biehl was on their they have been dominating against the run their front sevens being great they return. Six starters out of that front seven I believe or maybe their whole entire. They're always good I don't know line. The problem is it's like you said Tim your place your quarterback Brandon Allen. Your excellent running backs Alex comes John of the Williams all you have left is prayed and Allen's brother Austin you have nineteen career attempts. You're cheerleading Rodgers had 30200. Yards. Avery respectively suggest not a lot of experience in that hall backfield. That said. I would not argue would see court especially in person because he's very strong very scared. Coming up next hour double coverage talk to Christine I garic about his frustrating travel day. A little pelicans in the Olympics as well here at WW.