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9-9 6am Tommy, more great floods more often?

Sep 9, 2016|

Are we going to see more extreme floods like the Great Flood of 2016? Tommy talks to David Titley, a meteorologist, Professor of Practice at Penn State, and retired Navy Rear Admiral.

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Now Tommy chalker WW LA MI famine dot com I'm. I wonder David I wonder indeed I wonder wonder. And a weekend to document our speakers show good show. John I wonder about. This is what I wonder. Back in 2000 on this date in 2008 case September 9 right now. If we head. If anybody had told us what was ahead of us. Would anybody have believed it in the next ten years and what I mean by that is if you think about it. September 9 2002. Days away from 9/11 and we've been aboard for fifteen years since then ranked the Katrina came in 2005. And we all know that story and 2009 we won the Super Bowl and it just amazes me how. Life is so unpredictable. Gusts to me that this is a testament pardoning. Of the unpredictability of life and money should never say never about anything. These statistical peak of the hurricane season is tomorrow that's correct so you know him all my sources and that. My sources consists of the people who watch on TV given the weather's a developer. Those of my sources. I'm Melissa SS what does asleep thank. So everything so far that is off the coast of Africa is seems to be if it does strengthen its gonna turn to the Norton yeah and northeast I guess an NBA ship hurricane ranked. So you feel pretty good about that. Big big presidential election we had. Military summit if you will which made me feel it is worse about everything just get out more confused than our I know Gary Johnson again didn't even know Colombo was and then recently you know what if that's it is qualifier than it is still vote for. Area got to tell you that's that's kind of disqualified either fewer so loaded on pot that you don't remember. Or you didn't know in the first place. And knowing of the saints' seasons starting on Sunday okay. I don't make sure that all the switches are where they have to be in the knobs are turned and so forth is dominant and he's something right now. That I went kept so Shelden Williams is everything in position to record this. Jordan fetal is is he awake. Carla as a rough night and that's what it means that new Catholic. Like a bar. David Blake went you know this all my friends listening I want you to listen to as closely okayed this predictions are right this down well we are being recorded for history as it is for posterity right now OK can I tell you something up. The saints this year. You sure were rolling. Tape is roe. This is being recorded for Placer. You don't played back where it and technically devious civil semblance. Civil civil military and were good Jack go to night you positive role in yes. There have been air and are doing a sound check for a band. Drive you crazy. I can't stand attention now. So well regret it becomes my prediction. The saints. Are going to shock the world. Say it again. The saints are flying beneath the radar they are going to shock the world they are going to come out of the gate four and a whole. They're going to go into them by break undefeated and brimming with confidence. They will build up on that confidence. And make it to the NFC championship game and possibly. The Super Bowl off. Do we have that ready for playback and oh man oh man that's my prediction. Course Omnia and announce at beside it things yet. North Korea screw around the nukes again you know so as yet daycare it and get a problem. In on saying does the little girl and Adam made nation so. Mean we've taken out of we need 614 coming back into bureau shocked the world. Shock. The world. Shark world disturbing story. To me the other day that is set after the great plot of when he sixteen that that was caused by climate change. I human made global one man made global warming. And that is gonna happen again. 40% more likely to happen so does that mean instead of just hurricane season is tomorrow we approached the statistical peak of it. And then usually around October the cold fronts are coming through and although since the season runs until November 30 we know read the collective sigh of relief but does that mean now. Every time he gets cloudier it starts to rain we wonder when is this going to end. Our friend joins us right now Dave typically a meteorologist professor. Of practices and state and retired navy rear admiral morning admiral morning. Thank you for taken at that time with this. How accurate is that prediction in and what is it based. I played the did the which means we can't climate change a lot to do climate change is probably need to. More likely both. The likelihood and then how much were involved you know I mean we can really unprecedented going right in. It in Louisiana. Point four inches or when he signed and Tony four hours immigrant. You know it's just crazy so you know time I think they like if you were an atrocity. You don't appear in get a clue how they that's critical that's pretty rare event. Our climate changes like put in the a couple of base and attack that doesn't mean every time things doesn't mean every time you like getting in until you're gonna get out it is time. But it's more likely now and that's what this study is that it's more likely and the steady located poncho on waste. Bit scientifically or actually really good which look at. And the conclusion through this thing but it does so it doesn't mean that climate caused the particular range but it does climate is making those kinds of very heavy rains. More likely unfortunately. Tore it down enough. I'm gonna take some time he with the with this with you feel my aunt suffered traffic here. An Intel bit about your Louisiana connections. Jordan so I've had the honor of living in Louisiana we were on the Mississippi coast until the 29 provocative act definite signs. Are denying needed to move to Louisiana we were Lipton Vanderbilt and what is. Serving in the US navy is the commander of that maybe meteorology and oceanography connect. I will instead talk team will be back and only get into the soul. Climate change global warming thing in and is there a difference and between climate change and global warming how did it become so politicized science and politics as we've talked about before never make for good bedfellows and we'll talk about always getting questions or comments he 601870. Talking about the great flood of Tony sixteen and the dual role that climate changed played in it and the fact that it the events like that might be more likely to happen and it's and calls CO2 is well talked admiral Dave typically meteorologist presenter professor of practice at Penn State needs. Word had to leave the Mississippi coast would Louisiana and in the bill after Katrina Kelly in Metairie the morning you're talking admiral tickling. I'm I'm in Pittsburgh. Just happened to be there in Metairie. I would like to see some dialogue product about the overbuilding. After Katrina evacuees needed places to. Airline I'm way all of Edmonton dollars. And alternate hairy lies all there's new homes. People sold tracts of properties it will farmers. And any. Bill quickly and I witnessed sticker that was. And it was like a concrete jungle I saw them literally. Cheek by Ukrainian law you can look at well. They feel it. And they'd place a building on top of that by and then they thought they can relocate the by world could. And ears spikes three years my I was up there and watched the overbuilding the woman's hospital out there they've built. I mean it's it's for it's unimaginable. That concrete jungle that it has become. Well let's see what they admiral thanks Kelly thank you for Colin now admiral what you think is Kelly right there. Part of this way we're built an upcoming guest. Yep thanks yummy Kelly pavlik brings so a point which it is. You know makes it even even partners that we know the reins when they come they have potential to be harder and more intense stress like we saw. They don't get just on the buy you or you know just in the river base in the fall on you know where we live and and we need buildings and we need broad and things like act. So how do we balance that and I think that's really something that our local leaders. Need to really be able to think about in the in the science community needs to be able to tell the local leaders what kind of rainfall. We most likely might happen the extreme brain called. In the next you know 20305800. Years. So that part of the community and kind of you know make that decision. You know intentionally if you will so because it is it's a balance it would got a plate and still live we gotta have places to work and play. We also don't want or how to put it out so so it's. This amicably brings up a great point and and and it is not easy is this what all the communities on the coast I think. You don't think about really really hard. And on health Kelly lives in Metairie works in Metairie but you could make a case. Maybe Metairie should never have been built biko's that was reclaimed swampland it was a non. Sure I mean a lot of you know what if I mean we all you'll note that you know a lot of places down in Europe in Louisiana you were very low elevation. It's very flat but water drains slowly when you put a lot of water around. And then. Porn more peeping of course makes this makes it harder so so these are you know these are complex questions were not just not just gonna leave. We've also got to be sensitive to these very hard rains and and human tragedy and we we've all seen we don't know people we know we know our friends and family to have to deal this and it's real tragedies so. To be departing Q where our local officials and an for the towns themselves. To put Booker. Admiral we're gonna. Ask you to be handled herself and take some time when this because and in some texts and trying to not answer them on an anomaly Carl. Triple on an all you aren't eager meteorologist your nandrolone a navy for God's sake you know. Science and and what's going on in terms of media row and I do not in and is a constant. As soon as you talk about climate changes in this you talk about global warming a text comes in askew guess what kind of climate change quote. In quotation marks he's claiming now global warming or global cooling where the on doctored experts applaud and support. Man causing either of those and I think we went off the tracks and this became a political and not. But strictly scientific argument but I think in this environment today there is nothing. That you could bring up that would not eventually become. Political you'll stay around. Thank total. Yet George will will it's such a thing missing in general Dave typically is our guest meteorologist. Professor practice at Penn State d.s Louisiana in a Mississippi incident nosy area and we're talking about. A report that said the great flood of Tony sixteen. Because of climate change as a 40% greater chance of happening again. And that raise my eyebrows when I saw that because you know it's one thing at hurricane season and we approach these statistical peak of that. Tomorrow and then after that the the threat begins to diminish throughout the rest of hurricane season through November 30. But my goodness. To think that that was not a once in in lifetime event or maybe even more. I think it'll get us. Talking and at least the aid groups warrants a conversation just couple more minutes with our friend my rear admiral David tightly retired rear admiral. A meteorologist professor practice and seeing them just thing and David your dad was captain in the navy right. At his own ship. And lord admiral mean some need and it. That it does night so tummy is a professor if you will. In answer to this test. A text rather what kind of climate change. Are you call claiming now global warming or global cooling under the un doctored thanks short man causing either those let me just quickly say. That that the nature of this text that the tone of it. There's this shouldn't be this way this shouldn't be an emotional thing they should be male witness accounts at a scientific conversation. About whether or not Barone and a planet we live on in and go ahead. Yep I mean I. I could agree with you you mourn their notebook when I look at this is. Is really the science but exit he will again and again you're talking to hear if we believe it. The atmosphere don't care if we are so against global warming. It's just gonna do what the physical health to do so because it is now putting and unfortunately the ring when they ring Parker they tend to be. Coming down as we as we've seen. So there's really not a not a political aspect of the evidence in the evidence is overwhelming and you know I'm I mean I'm happy and you guys. Tons and on the report would you don't need evidence of kinds of different things. Between air temperature ocean temperatures sea level. I changing. The so we we don't change. Politics. So what we can do and that is the political. Because it involved money is involved. In a kind of wipe. Do we want for our children and our grandchildren and country do we want. Those are political and likable people the client has not political but. But the recent spot that is the political. Thing and that's why we elect leaders and we try them. Two to do it our best interest both for the short term but also for the long term. So yes the climate is changing yet it's warming it's not pulling. And and we know act. The part we don't know is probably what are we going to Q power in recent. Admiral one other text here climate changes legitimate that we should be. In an all out war with the China and Russia because obviously can't let them destroy the earth the should've thrown in India there and and perhaps Brazil I guess but they. Continue to ignore any and all climate change regulations and we'd let them it doesn't add up Blair does. Climate. Change of manmade it is that the things that men do to change the climate and inhuman speed change climate. How does that fit in in determining who who our friends are who our enemies are and if we do anything on our own is and a futile gestures long as the other countries don't care. Here's now how I think a lot of people look at it's. Is this is a problem which is going to affect. And it's gonna take leadership. And and what I tend to value from from over three decades in the US navy is many many countries in the world still to this state looked at the United States for leadership. They want the United States to leave. I think it's incumbent. We we need to lead on here. And and we've seen that despite some very contentious relations with with China especially. They are. Actually on on greenhouse gas now they're doing it for their interest. If anybody knows the China the air pollution quality it is terrible. And and the Chinese are worried about to their own citizens basically revolting because it's because it's so that so. I don't think the killings during the third nicer because they like to spot because veterinary interest that we need to find the words in common interest. Put it to go to Shanghai light on the coast of what he awoke in a whole lot bigger. Sea level rise is gonna be every bit as big deal for Shanghai China is that going to be for New Orleans will be you know. If we don't do anything what kind of time what time frame are we looking at where things drastically radically change. If we don't do any thing but seeing things like the great flood of 2016. Will be every time we have a McCain even if it's a garden variety hurricane and it comes in on higher and higher baseline seat awful. I mean that was the big thing not so much with Katrina apple which has handy and it came in on the hired see well. I'll look at it the more and more very very hot days in which we're not prepared for people died from that. But it these things are not gonna that's what we're gonna gonna wake up Wednesday and it's like a light switch. Kind of like I think we knew when you go to the Coke did you go to saint castle in the tide is coming up. The first ways you know to equate the kind of typical little but the thing capital but pretty soon. Almost every way it is taking you know taking what they'll they're on the peak and that's kind of what we're. We're seeing right now here so. I would take decades we have decade to really get serious about this a pot. It's what can naval aviation week that you know one thing that's useless it's partly behind you. Right now we're putting weight behind us. Appreciate your time admiral really deal pleasures like some audio awaken you bet. Rear admiral heatedly meteorologist professor practices and state. And I'm liking hear what you think at T six at 187 me. I'm getting some texts that are so angry here about what the admiral had to say. I trust I don't think the admiral has a political agenda I trust what he has to say I am concerned about the other countries participating in. LSU right now offers off DA news T think they climate change is real. Did the great flood of Tony sixteen year make you rethink your position or do you think well just a weather manages something that happened. Andy think it's getting hotter. I think it is I think you know we get to think of something politically to do with the other countries and and maybe. Take this step in terms of being a leader but maybe we should look at as the text eluded to sanctions against countries that don't. Here's a thing of the global warming you know they David Shipley a meteorologist professor of practice at Penn Stater retired navy rear admiral I don't think he's got any reason to lie side take him at his birdies Smart and I could ever be. So when you don't know when you're not Smart enough to figure it out. You turned of people that you can and hopefully. Rely on it you trust I do trust the admiral and I think there is something on all of the climate. But I don't know who who does this I don't know why it becomes so. Emotional but it Tex comes in the admiral has eat that cheese. Of course any real Rush Limbaugh told miso. Your guess is a jackass global warming is a global tax scheme and I'm just wondering if you know. If you think you know more than the admiral about things like this witty where you get the information would make should think that. And it would seem to me that we have to air. On the side of caution here is once it's screwed up. Unless they're hiding something promise I don't think we have anywhere to go. Jimmie and slide on the morning on W well. It is more an eight. You know apology especially like Donald Trump his Saber clue as. Global warming as a scam is Billiton and invite China. To keep us from Meehan. Can't competitive in the global market like that that says that is one you know I agree that role like the fracture there you know. You keep burning fossil fuel you know anything they can put more CO2 in the air Putin degree count there. And he's back in the early 18100. Our part for million CO it was only 200. And Alec over 400 at a double in a 140. Years. And it did get on the banks are they condemn Rick Wagoner and hide in your stroke are. And it's not feeling cold I mean I don't understand what people can't look at fact and it. You know. And under and take it as it is instead of trying to put the fact that what they want. I don't know why it has to be such an angry why it turned so emotional let's understand. You're. Third and I don't like about it losing jobs or anything like that nothing and it could be a world wide approach it thinking and it's about sanctions for this. Or individual freedoms and as it is the United States Nixon's use when he wanted to admit it or not. Com would regimes there aren't people friendly and which ones aren't and when we care about human rights and and when we don't. And I just think if don't know what the text said and agreeing with him. Am back away. Backward way I think that. Yeah I think if if if if this is real if you are concerned about this and this is something about which we really should care than maybe it's undertake economic sanctions. Against those that dealt in terms of country climate change could it be. That there's a 40%. Chance of something like the great flood of 26 scene is more likely to happen as a result of it well. A new report says so Wilford says your tree hugging conservative. Yet now I think it human beings we obviously had an impact on the planet. But could it be accused of back bit that we. A three count that picture depicts I literally landed a two out and vine street thank bill will be an addict and and you know you wanna get rid of the COQ well levels are more acute levels. When it treats but that this is the only way to get it. You know art you have an impact absolutely but then you'll have a look back at. You know we've got a situation where we tend to wobble in the fact that the portrait that happened shortly after yeah. I'll start like back believe it was in 2005 that enough. You know in the number the don't need to they're gonna keep changing and look at the Grand Canyon that was that would that would basically Ohio water. Mine. Are. But I don't think anybody's saying that the the grand canyons and the cause more flooding or anything but I understand I think would you point is I just don't understand how. You wouldn't wanna air on the side of caution here. Below continued talk about it we come back to six of 170 also about those canals and met tree. The Dow hydrology involved and so forth. It was like on Terry parkway where they covered think announces an arrogant does best is I can tell on a drive Penn State. They drive some sheet pile I guess they put in. They did put in the put in box called it's an act actually looked at this warning now a little while ago did you and of India would what happens is a lot of cases where we can and will they'll actually widen. The capacity of the canal when put in the box cope with sensible the box called in will be somewhat water in the actual canal would. And BC news straight down and curve ball right exactly and in English straight across you know and so it gives you a lot more retention space. Not only does it give you retention stage it also helps the flow of the water unity of course when you go on Oprah nothing but concrete. That that that moves much faster now in certain cases we have to have access hatches. And you actually have to Laura bobcat into the canals and they will have to eventually going to does and clean them out because you'll get all types of tree debris believes. Mud you know anything that goes into a drain won't get into those box colts and so they have to.