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Sep 20, 2016|

Tommy talks to Steve Bucci, a Visiting Fellow in the Center for Foreign and National Security Policy at the Heritage Foundation, about profiling and national security.

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Now Tommy chalker WW LAM hour famine dot com as though the shooting in Oklahoma where female deputy shot a black man I didn't and then please he said he did not have a gun. Mean as the Oklahoma production got us out we distant and so on. I think it's gonna wind up where she went to grabber taser and grabbed a gun I might be wrong on a no attacks comes in Tommy I don't know if you watch the video of the female police officer. That shot the black male not given the right to shoot anybody below what I see is a common thread. That black people. Have a problem with complying with the police when they tell them to stop so we can take them on any 8 o'clock hour and were also talking about. Profiling. And oh or Hillary Clinton I think B Donald Trump's profile Hillary Clinton. Says keep doing what we're doing and I think it comes down to. Dude do you take that tough approach or do you. Qaeda acted to be friendly with everybody while secretly determining what it is that the bad people are up to Jake in Canada morning aren't. WL. And you. Knew him and on. Com. Oak. Tree. Joke. I. So. You know should or. Should know. Oh look. At. Everybody. In a country. It. Heal our. Secure it and kill people. You know into. We won one bowl. You know. An indoor carpet. In the. Got to Jake thank you a text ends in January go again he did in Nazi racial profiling. He perhaps denied use the word racial profiling but when LCU profiling. Maybe call and make a case for how profiling is not racial I would like. But if Hewlett and borrow white male. And it's racially and I mean about is to be of a different raised so. Unless I miss and sometimes they give. Arson words here's don't really matters and we're talking about. Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton in the attack and the nine well bombings known yank it hasn't packets errors and you know to cults he Gucci visiting fellow. At the senator from foreign and national policy at The Heritage Foundation the morning. So what this was a bombing attack it injured people would is it now a terrorist attack I guess would call it that. It now it's absolutely terrorist attack every time somebody sets up a bomb in an area where. Innocent civilians are going to be walking around that's that's a terrorist attack. And it looks an awful lot like this guy is gonna be pretty easily try to do it bleached Islamist terrorist. Ideology. It's not through the organization. I'd sewer and a conversation about Donald Trump talking about profiling and Hillary Clinton saying that Donald Trump is the recruiting sergeant prices or something along those lines. What would either approach look like I guess under each administration of profiling would look like what because. And I'm on home border against it I'm for stopping things like this but I don't want to cause more of them. We'll look what is and what have studies shown what do you think tanks and considered the right way help me out on this Steve. Well they're the future one of the net to answer your question is that. What mrs. Clinton is proposing basically what we're doing now wore this languages. Kind of look at the event would be very hesitant to label thing terrorism until you get on state court level. Troops who listen you know go out of evidence to three years against the person that they were actually tied to. Terrible this an example that would be you know after Nadal Hasan shot up Fort Hood. What yelling I'll lock bar it you know on the label war wage violent Central Europe though they finally we're linkage. Two in my upbringing common sense and label the chair hours they did color we're pleased. That's what which are rigidly characterized as spies by the army officials they would not call terrorism and they wouldn't be the victims. You know and horrible war stated you get you know combat kind of compensation. Even though there have been killed in terrorist event on on a military installation. And there was no doubt as to motive it's set. Well known known at all a guy's been talking about it for a long time you know his radical ideas and nobody says anything to hold. Because they were concerned that they would be excused of profiling and Islam phobia. I met him more rhetorically that today ASCII so Donald Trump junior tweeting. A pictures understandable bowl of skills and syndicating annulment three some of those of poisoned. May get take a handful Needham. And he said that's what we're facing basically with. Did taken in Syrian refugees says Steve in terms of profiling. And Donald Trump's and that's with the police need to be free to do or our law enforcement. Will that look like how to be different than now. Well I admitted that want it more complicated which is like the other 11 yeah the profiling would be. You know profiling disposed to be let's watch the people we think are most likely to commit the croc. So you know or in this case it terrorism. So yeah about the white based way to do would be okay and the majority of the people doing. Terrorism against nowadays are radical Islamist. Tight folks that wood that ideology. So let's follow everybody groups among. That's very unlikely that that's what what mr. trump talk about that's likely to be impossible. We used to used to many people that are you have a Muslim faith it would be sure. So it skill around it's. People who have shown at tendencies through better. They're social media on line. Jupiter Communications with dear friend. To have radical Bennett. So someone reported battle all year. And war talk about won't somebody else because you know he converted to Islam and now spot that should do it. The police which sparked a follow that now that's not very different than what we kept today. Except I think it would give the Pope. No more way to follow those Connell each more strike. And they are doing now the FBI. It takes them awhile. To get to the point where they start fall someone physically or digitally. And they'd they'd be true and trying to an action so while. They walk away like that they've got it down in Orlando. And other virtual watch for a little while and they walk. We'll see nine I think there's an important question and I hope it doesn't sound silly. But would they know that they're being profiled or investigated and if not and there's no harm no foul and they're not up to anything old then you're not gonna become a recruiting sergeant for. Radical Islam because they don't even know that they were being investigated is that accurate or not Steve. Well I I would agree with some people would say what you should know why am which I think it's kind of stupid. But you know that that's their. Opinion that. And in other cases the fact that we it should it policy and went to this sort of thing. How would be trumpeted by. People here in the United States looped CO2 violation of civil liberties so there's there's a lot of debate there are so. It could potentially. A lower I missed and other works that we're doing it could also paying at least give that opportunity. Because it's. Someone you know like it's pointless. Quality to back. You know that that's wrong such kind of person that would announcing. It's it's a new administration started there and then that would potentially. The somewhat well according to war so yeah that weight which cost you more sport seats see compared to the other. In terms of of the Donald Trump but profiler plan whatever you wanna call it. Would that have help with things like San Bernardino wooded have helped with. Do what happened duo for the weekend in new York and New Jersey and where there any warning signs even with that it was Abdul. The shooter at Fort Worth a duel in the sun was of this thing. Nadal Hasan yet. Well with Nadal so on it would help if you cigarette off and about how. He wanted to be out world war wracked Haiti and and Afghanistan was morally wrong. Guys that as a uniform on the hawks are you this kind of battle line in any should've been reported should have been investigated. With the other two. The other guy in Orlando had been follow had been investigated by the FBI. By this in this state got to a certain point and say. Pat it's not actually these tendencies we Malone. I think under that kind of urging talk about would. Would stay with them long. So perhaps they make sort of short circuited that with this guy in futures in New York. It depends on whether people. Reported. It is changing behavior. You know the fact that you want Afghanistan and stayed there awhile and then came back certainly much changed. It could have trips some sort of surveillance. But in this case you know with the limited resource the FBI they. So to go whip is kind of profiling saying. You're at all so well he actually achievement such people are in the organization that interest. Primary yeah. See we got to Romany got a issue one quick question it would seem to me only common sense in terms of commonalities. Dad if you go out of the country and spend time in Pakistan or Afghanistan for a month. Two months a year or whatever that it should kind of put journalists is that is that wrong to say it. Now. And and matches the middle leasing be Somalia Yemen where the receiver appreciate your time. While we get talking and Steve Gucci visiting fellow at the center for foreign and national policy at there adage foundation. Take your calls we come back to 60187. He's got the right approach Donald Trump. Or Hillary Clinton Hillary's gonna keep doing basically what we're doing now Donald Trump says you know what profile people. Hillary says if you do that then you're gonna be the biggest recruiting sergeant. Or what have you for crisis because people are gonna get man in and turn anti American Muslims would. And would that in and of itself be enough to radicalize some money that adheres to the Islam. That is Islam and that adheres to the Islam faith and his Muslim again and now guys watching the video during the news of the shooting in Tulsa. Yup. The unarmed black man and Tom I'd hate it's kind of hard to tell what exactly goes on their group police offices around him. One police officer says I believe is the unedited version. That looks like he's about to get teaser apparently he was not complying and well and I'm guessing here I don't know. And immediately the woman officer says shots fired now on and on she. Mistook one for the other I don't know. I mean with the weapon again pentagon for the taser and then it would appears of the vehicle were broken down and was broken down the middle of the road in the video I saw was from another unit. That was gone like a bat out of hell to get to the scenes so apparently the woman was with. The woman officer was with the suspect or the victim and every one Colin amendments dead. And it called for back up because I don't understand how why else are buddy we're having on your so fast. So we'll see we'll talk about the next hour. There right now we're Tomo profiling and we will continue to talk about it as it relates to. The recent terrorist attack in new York and New Jersey and Donald Trump's is get tough profile Hillary Clinton says you do that you're gonna be recruiting sergeant. For crisis and radical Islam while she didn't say radical Islam. And a smattering morning earn double WL. Laid out in Asia. Let's oh click edit our tech guy in basically wanted to thank you said was that. Profiling basically consisted of watching people that are most likely going to be the crime. And out there again yeah. I mean at that like straight upcoming real quick spoke on apology yeah yeah running quarterback Russell Wilson and Mike baked out like that they aspire order back. So because they're most likely going to be one and yet institute speed but by and all quarterback so that running quarterback art and it. Or whoever's gonna carry the ball you know remain likens its level and you know who's gonna terrible spy and everybody. I guess I'm really. I think in analogies got some holes in it but I appreciate you taking the time the call Linda uptown high you're under the WL. The money and Linda what's up. How he'd done it but I don't listen to you review recent and you talk about what is. Lisa profile. And I think it is good example. And my mother is legal positive uptown in the white neighborhood. My mother that then it is so Apollo went out so what Google is that we're in the amount almost seven in the crowd that night. We pulled up directly in front I would do until visit that you could we possibly do miracles you know blacks. Gate some look at and ankles in the top of Philip the political antidote. We do I pull up our I'm I want. Notebook. He'd get out the cause put it and in that first thing to outlaw the column a while pulling your old. And Monday's edition of your job of life and an outlet and done mobilizes. You know drop the flight went door that we put up front to deal. He still on the houses so that Liza he's seen any that they address went did licensee. He told then you have a great date I was so angry. Don't let what people and that's all what would it affect you this. Yet but pretty good but he didn't and then I don't thing I'm wondering is why did he says he didn't know why he was. Absolutely exact word to. Why do you put in Google why. Q did you contact the police about this. I have a couple of police friends that come do my job and I was telling them about it. And the first thing I told me it was a racial pulled. As a police officer wonder why it would. Can. What I think you should do is I think you should call in a PD and I think you should. Get an explanation as to why the officer pulled you over and couldn't give you a reason for. I'll make. They gets beyond the realm of love of reasonableness. To take a couple of minutes with Raphael going in and jaded talk about the disgraced. Come district attorney I guess saint Charles parish in and what he did in and then the video that I saw on the sentence and so forth day it raffia good morning. More liquid got my intentions when you said this is worse than Darren Sharper. Well people pretty outraged about that you know that was former professional athlete take advantage of women. Describe what the chief prosecutor brought to twenty years. And central harsh and huge huge and you are urged to as let our church. Shoot trade church for leniency in and help that the district turns out to provide. Under state law Chara not just talking about. Well colonel Sanders. That humans try to coerce an adventure sort them but mothers that were going to be dieters saw especially. Trial support from there it being style which. And he was just trading sex for doing. Are pursuing the other our sport during the world you're two mothers or their children. He and video that I saw young lady that eventually believe and on to commit suicide but. It was sickening and really was and these people these young women returning the law because they thought the law would album and an essence. This man as the law was taken advantage of them his attorney Ralph kaput tele I think said the video doesn't show. Any. Any of the illegal behavior but we all know damn well what was going on and I guess why does he get such a light sentence wrapped real. Well you know that's why am. Swapped talking about it I mean it's a real tragedy. That that young lady. Was placed on the DEA's diversionary program our hair grow and VH diversion and usage sort of being. Pre. Conviction. Probation. So you had to do community service what you also have to submit to drug testing and actually had. A drug problem would have been identified and she would have been forced into getting some help with that. And because Perry. Our morale what interest in helping them warming. These rules options program. And the program culture saw and where not follow. And ultimately that cluster girl I. She did not do anything to battle her addiction. And ended up Costner lights out per child bubble much. Give any idea how many women and how long this went on for. The FBI. Police stereo PowerPoint. Or actually share saw at least Apollo or it was presented them buy it. And I'll like PowerPoint who's is entitled. Operation twisted just bench. And that's very appropriate thing for for this particular case the situation. But be happy or are you under people. And he identified up to 38 women. That. Mayor put pressure on to have church women but it at least five women. That admitted that they hear oral search with the other women. Admitted that he would grow them and proposition that Christian action. So you know this is a guy that. I think Astaire sharpest a true to a chain. Thank you Raphael and and then the sentencing is done that's it three years what I understand. Published state charges. There could be brought against him but don't changed wanna do that. Java and speaking to that this returning air jolt chaps who refuses to recuse himself and urging him. He charged that start or cute and shall not go to the attorney general. Thank you will we'll stay on top of us on keep talking about design Charles say I'm touched thank you Raphael if you see the video it's disgusting and and I think you know. See if in essence he was holding a gun to somebody's head with the power that he had eaten. And answer rape Tommy Tucker come on back to learn about the shooting Intel also under the WL.