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Yellow tone on a welcoming you to our number Q Omar. Hot day program time. You've got bigger cagey with me too easy that's mr. Kim Zimmer I'm blessed him Tuesday. Bundle of smiles and energy. Now as opposed this time last night where I think he was chewing his nails down that and comfortable level. When you go to Q aggressive on the males and maybe it starts there we feel baking over the next three days you're screwed you'd be deal of that nagging pain. Tim how are your nails by the way Alden. You have done OK they're gone they're there yet groups to completely keyboard. Aren't coming up this hour we're gonna continue. Our conversation now on this. The the NFL radio job I think it's been pretty fascinating for me personally Christian I'm getting into some of the factors that I had in my notes as to why it is. Really the the prevailing it's intimate at this time on the tax line. On Twitter. If you phoned has been the kind of infusion of politics in this sport of Patrick M agreed to had on last hour. Had a pretty interesting article which he talked about the kind of conservative nature of sports. And then maybe in a lot of sporting fans on these hardcore traditional football fans they're not as progressive as the mainstream media. Would like him to be your imagined to be and that's creating this robe. Where as you know Bristol and ESPN as they continue. 22 to push what you could say what would accurately relate. Liberal. Progressive I would just say more politicized version of sports that it seems to be turning people off weighed more. Then I'd previously real. Outlook I think it those protests out of talking several friends fans and Malaga. Even to socialize and in you know with with friends that's the thing that they point to his. Oh I don't see their stance I don't want to watch what they let him play in. Became etc. to get out of for one feel like that platform. That these athletes have. Right when he like for example Cam Newton. Nobody wants to hear that Cam Newton does good and donates. A lot of money in offer for Halloween for Christmas etc. All these things that they that these players do with a community can't be good to do it then it's OK they're perceived as nice guys good guys that but. If they have a stance on something that's not fair either they they don't want to hear it but I am and that's a big factor. For fans I just. I just feel like that's not think puts me off the thing that puts me off is. Is is Sunday Monday Thursday it's too much to me like one of the things what would steel sink through abstinence to heartless on their right I mean I have something is here. Absence although I think would discuss your average view was the abstinence the heart groups warrior. A group out under through yet realizes that. So you. But you appoint if you see someone. Once a week jazzed up your accent. He college football for the most part they're being gay is what it's only on Saturday which is on Saturday. The occasional light. There Friday and yeah add to the might have on his background noise. But it's. He's been hurt if you're an SEC country. Like you're you've yet you your injury plagued Saturday in the primetime slots in the afternoon or night. Yeah. To meet. It just doubles down to it's too much on top of that I think the priced out the average. And if you think about it you get the superdome. As you know 2.5 books based IT to sit up and eat right and if it's just it's if it's a family of four there's otter box right there thirty dollars apart it department is superdome maybe find some cheaper in the event parking line weights you know fifteen point books or maybe find a Uga Uga the effort of you to discounted ten dollars. She already at a 110 dollars for even walking it is they via via guests and a finer points and usually that's what's yes. Yet and then you go to concessions if you don't if you bring a kid for example I brought my two younger ones Edelman. That they're gonna wanna eat either by feeder before the game they don't want soap that is single wanna deal with no note that we're not eaten anything we're not having snacks that. When doing any concession because inevitably an alliance to make you miserable that you had to give them what they want singer out all at all by a hundred but he books I think the average family can't. Can't afford that every week. I mean it does take a certain special commitment as violent scenes him so much. Two get hammered on don't be years like you gotta you gotta save up. For awhile for that maybe you take a little out of your kids' college fund but when you're paying twelve dollars a beer that's no. You know that's no joke you got to commit yourself to that end it did you got that right like any proud rubble raider you've gone. To say games expecting them blow some of your. Harder and video poker cash on those don't Beers have you not I've I've pregame and another car knew there OC you're actually not injury history in the down. I'm Ken Kenny in arrests NC so look there you know Christian people being. Priced out he's a real quick so what are your backs of these phone calls to think that has been. Most fascinating part is conversation. Thus far let's talk about some of the reasons. Some of the other factors that people are kind of reporting that could be. Causes of history example first off. The election of course right but there's no mystery as to whether Packers giants game we talk but tonight was so more. Went head to head it would be to deal that falcons saints game. I'd for the record the election Christian is why the NFL is citing. That that ratings are down and they're they're they're reverend gene back in 2000 which is also pretty insane election if you're a member recounts and all of that. That that was a time and NFL ratings kind of suffered across the board in a similar. Man. Now well be the nice part about the cell makers are I don't think it explains a whole story either. But once the elections over we should be able to tell how much of an impact it was truly having so will be able to get a clearer view. On the election. Influence. That it's currently having I would also say go to add to your pointers not by sending a note. The increase in news programming which is what he will be turning to you is not as great in the decline. Add or exceeding is that as great as the decline of the NFL ratings so the Madd believes a lot of viewers. Unaccounted for stealing your cable well why is that the case and adding next this is really what I've fallen to release part of me Christian it's. Choices man you'd choices go lower nowadays are you a court. Cutter is that is that true for. Yeah yeah no that's true and it has a knack to another reason why. And so any time and look I'm I'm I'm learning assessment mature and grow old. It said I you have less and less free time right. However in the age of the Internet we have more and more ways to expand their free time the show me any more different devices in the entertainment options competing. For your focus and when you look at all TV viewership it's all star due to things like Netflix or. The guy this is watching games on your iPad or on your iPhone or on your laptop for your computer like you do resuming those don't count. Towards. These TV ratings and Agilent to free time get our I'd do the show. And like I have to force myself. To watch football sometimes because of the show and and other times I'd kind of cheat and I don't watch. And on Sunday I might go played like Lord of the Rings card game might watched. The new Netflix show or whatever I've kind of been wanting to go big John because when you get that free time there's just so many different. Entertainment options and what else is kind of interesting is that to make up for that you go to promise of due to time lately. Is every Sunday just to get a great Michael overview of the NFL I'll watch all these little five many YouTube highlight videos of the games. And I don't know pitched as a sign of shortening attention span or what it is. But. It aids it's indicative of a larger trend like we said among teenagers and younger twenty somethings. TV viewership is currently down forty. For 640. Proceeds physical or he's got some more but I wanna go back to the phones real quick before we go to break and talk to Scott. Base it was Scott what's going on them. Any keep eight people were distorted. What wrote to him greatly on the program because it. I had a heart peg man that's our they would do that you at home via six. Yeah it was. It was an outlet I I have what well I have thoroughly enjoyed it will continue enjoying. Torturing him I have a true malice for me and I am very happy for all you experience I just don't know pieces and said he Nampa. Greater disappointment on the road but at pebble would you got on the exit of tolerating. On the least bit of pain as. Well. I'll tell you my biggest thing is if you remember back in 2008 the same at a home game against the charges was great and wanted. And that the the two nieces and fancy player like LaDainian Tomlinson and have a won't they game been played in the laws when you start taking home games away from Spain because the NFL wants to. Market their brain I mean that the NFL you don't need more people take home game from fans that they and that so keen. They'll pray that it once a year we hear it's good what the actual owner to make money market routine and get it but are trained in the port that brought the gains. We don't wanna own game taken away from a school playing on the dynamic that promote we put the team in London we got a game in Mexico City this year. That's what upsets me the most. Gains will sleep well. It's really interesting it's got to go out. I think that to a degree that that holds true most databases. But I think a lot of it has do with the arrogance in which the NFL operates like it's gonna work OK it's gotten to Hollywood for me just like. The the NFL was insistent. That they have a team in LA I mean they've been playing that that that seed. For years to get a team back bill that would with that you got to back it why because it's a bit Hollywood now I think it's so much about. Almost that the red carpet more so than it is that the game itself and what the game boils down Tuesday and I don't like. Again like keep repetitive but I just don't like the Steelers in nineteen I think it's done more harm than good and I'd include dinners team. To me when I. Played in London I mean I actually am a fan of the kind of global loud region. We did a whole show on researching plane technology to how realistic a London team could really be. But what Scott's call points to me is really good this is indeed there are so many different ingredients. In the pot as far as why people are upset and why these ratings are down our Murray calls in Texas next. He or double coverage we also Christian. I had earlier today I got to sit down. With make makes him for quite a long and a very entertaining conversation about the current state of the Carolina Panthers in. If your frustrated as the saints fan well look the as USS Carolina. Is taking on some water as well. And while they're pretty frustrated too. Is double coverage can take steroids and exhibit called 4260187. In your debit BL AM after the outcome. Virgo. This it. I. This is one of. The more positive text that we've gone through the night Christian. Fuzzier 980 says. All caps as well I'm diehard football I look forward to Saturday Sunday Monday and Thursday at look let's be clear Kate dog although ratings are down. I can see they were from eleven to 13% these first four weeks. Tim law might go with the odd numbers you gave me as the and the baseball game. As it related to get them as premier c'mon don't be shocked. The baseball game as it related to the Monday night game. Yeah last night other cubs giants game ended up with a four point two rating compared to Monday night's game between the boxing Carolina Panthers went and nine point now have basically was doubled. Aids so it was doubled and people are celebrating those baseball ratings in this football ratings are being looked at like absolute garbage like you said that was the lowest rated. It's a spelling lowest rated week five matchup money matters to me is he ever had NC dot. Since since they got the right to be in the bill. Is still huge are still plenty of people. Better in love with a book when you have fifty billion dollars. Worth of television network contracts. Through the early 2020s. And 13%. Decline. Compared combined with like we said everything that we've talked of including 40%. Of teenagers and young twenty somethings not watching. TV anymore old becomes a bit scary for ten and a half decade or decade. In the future you back at Bellagio a big John in mid city big John what's up. Are you well Christians simplify remote brought up on. Your old male and a great deal reform Monday Neitzel and call at ten under what value personable that by you know about we bought we. And then you know and obliquely. But someday there there were. Why are you in those want to music games especially. At chargers game and how insane that what you're probably you might be bald in a little bit at this point is well. Oh not mine call and so the exact capital. It entity has called into the point. Just raised to. A number of factors General Counsel we correct it's a number that corner and that we are and what you call earlier senate vote. Announces in the book. And really. When you think about it guys. When your destiny who's the announcement on Monday Night Football. Coach gruden. The guy that's about more football and the leopard no. He's he's he's good personality he's pretty good. Analysts that the game. Well yeah how close so Monday Night Football what during the war. Because he just could not wait you know what. Sorry yeah well also is. Big jumper to put drug hold brokered this one minute CBS news update. That we are going to come back Jews mindful mismanaged clocks little bit. As double covered cured governor the only method dot com. Then he had a little love from the callers. They get there and did what to cut these friends. And thinks. Both saints fans grew up cubbies fan yeah and regular mask has to punch and still no news network it's all big jock mid city what's up man okay. Well we've we've heard that when they get it on. Its. Remember when people see these first payment of New Orleans area. Stations one should operators. Agrees. And everybody like. Okay that makes it much since because I always traditionally look at whatever I grew up in Zagreb a huge race and pluses and ninety's I mean. So nice time to be brace then I'll but I always kind of viewed as the south east team but I I guess it never really considered the fact that. Well now I know why way how could you ever cheer for a team from Atlanta. Well and not only that now it but he superstation. WG. Or. You also you know personality. Eric care I mean it was yeah man in the blue. Who you know he wasn't born. She's like some cold. Individual. Homework or one group on the blue. Yes it was the whole quote I don't respect there if we don't because of that. On there. That radical right complement our already well you're not marry a low. Big job title that's values are thoroughly. Vetted out you are your way to admire Hartman got out ahead it's big I got it to the core. Are done is as much as you've got some cool points with the about it you've lost some with me saying hey will how how about this creates Havoc for this Christian generic. I don't know if the Harry Potter series changed inside the matter brits have been to that extent but. When I was in high school the second highest selling book to be the Bible. Would have did the lord gatherings years it's it there's via a couple people on myself and league John's side before you. Take a joke about how wrong that statistic is I don't give a damn might greed Bible teacher told me that and I'm sticking with it. Well yes. Exactly exactly did you say anything else and for the GO. Well I'll subsidy is there war. Wore the product that on the field is one thing and the waste product is marketed to the population. You don't. A big personality like solar anymore. Without you know opposition jukebox. Engineers that route to the bounces. Will call okay basis that we currently they are. They eat too hyperbolic or we don't know what's going on in these I don't know jocks and being given another long an extra hour. Now I radio you're resigned. But you know I don't know you're talking about the time and while you start it probably looking at the same game where will he. And it just. In Ottawa turn on Jim Andrews now like the other call their. Just like those in Pittsburgh like that was in the Marco back in the day or. It also want to you know it's all things that we discussed earlier or definitely true. You really start looking at other networks are packaged in the NFL. Because you just you've got to get somebody might show and they. Did. All the calls at all it could talk about well. Sport simple and political most of the league reached goes armoire Jackie Robinson in nineteen awards. That was a political statement that there was one that has always been politics and sports. The fact of the matter with that we lived there in the region of the country where most people don't well currently on certain. Political statement sent me. Political statements and all in the sports and it's just simply pour light these are human being hit opinion. Don't just and a tree monkeys and they're pretty good at it rules don't it would they were right companion like anybody. A big jump well said my friend and yeah I don't. View stranger from stressing not to talk ordering tax rates have me seven million. We can chat now what what John had on the increase in a do you think absolutely. Their politics have always been part replace that I have to wish that I actually incurred it but something I would like to see. Is I would I I mean I. I would like to see the conservative side of the issue being given a bit more of the platform because there is a problem in. I think mainstream media and it's because it's kind of you know what's. I guess most acceptable I don't know if we just did did you know racially here or I don't know why it is but conservative viewpoints are always give and this same stage that you view a lot of these athletes that came out against. Telling cabinet. I work not just criticized by me in boots on the grab a bite these media organizations I would like to see a a bit less bias. In the in that kind of situation maybe take away. A bit of the rubber maid politics in sports more acceptable to a wider swath. All right. Get your break and then when we get back. Richard will go for fill the patriot. Stay in line you to taxi seven interview call 504260187. She's double coverage here on WB LE a method dot com. Welcome back double coverage here on the video AM after him. Dot com teamed up KG and teased the hanging out yours Jesse NFL. Readings drop we've mentioned obligations. Or many different reasons. Data become law up to me and politics both off the field until election and then on the field. When you talk about just the coverage of the game and and some of the protest. That have gone on the fragmentation. Christian you know just the vast amount of choice people cutting the cord. Of which you are mean you're ahead of the curve Qaeda you're basically millennial. At this point cutting the cord. Odds are users of people are no longer watching the games in this traditional manner how do you feel about this this is one that we have in necessarily. Gotten to discuss too much yet but who was it here on. The text line when I wanna try to give her credit no attempt. Texans thirty. Thirteen as it says they need more superstars. And I guess I'll pose the question do you Qaeda do you think the NFL. As a superstar problem one of the big kind of theories behind what happened to baseball. And I can kind of see it that. Well yes it's exist or duel in the steroids or await the superstars went away. I mean I remember utterly automated so heavily invested in the McGwire Sosa race. The Barry Bonds' race like. So so during that awkward time the immediate post or an aftermath the superstars kind of disappear and I don't know. It the games get recover. Will parcel I think part of the reason baseball is the only game has covered at the that is superstars it once did. I think that the NFL got to be careful because. They they kind of suppressed. Superstars and I invade you have superstars they've got colonial that you look at Tom Brady looking guys like in recent audio brown to eighty watt. Cam Newton. But I think because of the rules in place and because how we beat forty this leak it be how much suits are involved in this league. That it tends to be a corporate convention opposed to guys playing just that. And it came for entertainment for the fans entertainment not for their own profits that are so I think. So off that they keep some of these guys down when it actually should be. I think it's good the racing superstar because it shows the league has personality because it's off the perceived as a league dad doesn't wanna have personality what's become a plant in. And business like. Yet yet bland Dino you mean planned the no fun lead. Shutting down the branding coach Bo an air of celebration because it's. I I I now why honestly he can't spin the ball anymore when you get having the taunting flags since I mean it's a good doesn't it up. The flags in general. Or out of control I I I am. Did the more this game goes on the more I was wishing that they would dial back the that the more I'm wishing agitate the they would dial back the the pass interference rules. I'm not saying go back to maybe as physical as it was before. But is absolutely no touching being. You know the theories wall when people of offense that way the tune in well. I think he can reach a point where you're no longer seeing that return it's no longer a net positive becomes a net negative. And just think about some of the drives. That are extended. Or you don't really feel like they should be. You think about how slow down the game is the flags when he grosses issues to ebitda gays are real quick that Christian do you think. The NFL has a superstar for because. Well this is pretty onerous reporting thirteen of fourteen. So the top selling jerseys were Peyton Manning Marshawn Lynch Calvin Johnson Daryl now our time. Were able Tom Brady injured Peterson Johnny mintel. They were have all been suspended Peters him until Michael to play for its years Peter Peterson because an injury this time until well whether it's. You looking Kong cabinet Robert grew in the third these are to be some good young up and coming duke Jersey Jersey's herself like odd it's there now on the bitch. So when you look around this league and look there's been no breed a year and mean at the beginning of this season Andrew Luck. Has it really come to fruition Russell Wilson's incredible. He's also kind of incredibly boring. Like it and you look at a league like the NBA which is quite literally defined. By it's it superstars are now mean the MBA kind of feels like watching the WWE. And yes like you shake it out I want more personality one of these guys. She gave little flex their wings a little big show off a little bit more light. A little bit of that W get like a good guy or he'll. Persona. In my professional sports. You know I had believed that speech through our belief that be the case is two Eagles seen enough as it is. I think the owners wanna make sure that they keep the players in chip it's always a constant battle between. The ownership and management it's compared to the players like no they don't want any. Player to perceive or even thought to him to be bigger thing in the league because the owners on the face to protect. They don't want faces of the franchise and eight really don't want faces of the league they want the orders. To be the recently in particular the power broker owners talk about Robert Kraft talked about Jerry Jones a couple of others. He we know the big time owners they that's too. They want to be the peacefully along with commissioner Roger Goodell who. I would defy anybody show me if you laid out a blueprint if you laid outer overlaid map and show me. Pros and cons good or bad I'll betcha the cons are way longer than the pros since his tenure started to the National Football League is commissions. I don't know I don't know. I fully agree with that I think that's a bit of a dangerous stand to make when you look at and look I know we're talking about a 13% drop in ratings right now. But it's over a four week peers in like weeks there election factors to consider. He would have fell under did Dell's watch although there's been plenty of negative publicity and we're obviously seeing a lot of bid team. Going on tonight financially. It still be an incredibly success and image in the owners' Christian or is he owners are answered nothing else Roger Goodell for all the bad press he's created. It's he's been that means a lot of the bad pressure have actually been pointed at the owners and get Dale's kind of the one. Absorbing it all businesses I'd be interested to see now. If this trend continues. And this looks like it's not just. Because of the election tubes have we talked about tonight the and Roger Dell's disease Jim becomes. Much more suspect because they not only have public pressure. But the owners would have some incentive. To make a change as well it's why the NFL's really latching on to you right now. That it's just about the election that's the line they're sticking to it once and elections over with. The ratings will. Bounce back are coming up next your double coverage from a bad call phone lines you'll stick around we'll get back to your calls. Still covered your Adobe WL AM FN dot com might even include a trip to see our friend only down on. Kemba. Good discussion. And based on the problem has superstar girl connectors they'll before that day. And I think you know in a weird way that is kind of hide in. With the with the declines to air Turkey solving it broadly exhibit even if one of basal while Nazi it's coming back. Probably yeah what's wrong with a well about the fail. Well I think there's too many options out there I mean he is really some peace to create you know to some actors and a couple on the and date of this about me on the pavement they're so that shows and so well made. Like HBO's. True detective do you Richard Richard I did when cable Telecom hay and Woody Harrelson W that was blowing people's minds like all of the sudden it became. OK for these mega movie stars to do TV have you seen the preview for the new HBO showed what he's seventeen the young Pope. Or OS now rate a high high and loving world but it like as sort star power that young Pope show has. The Jude Law dying you know he can't remember who balls Edwards basically just. Like it either Academy Award nominee or Academy Award winner after winner at it it's it is safe you're actually right will be 'cause of Netflix HBO movie BO go programming Hulu Amazon. The quality of TV has increased dramatically. Is that you are right these 22 episode seasons anymore. Now you're down. That's another bank the ages you know your blood as well I mean on the long so augmentation and attendance policies and isn't just foreshadows. Why decks. Let Dexter don't want sir what. The bit in Russia Italy well. Yet yet Luther yet to an excellent yeah yeah yeah it's like three like our map absent I would point to a stranger things eight hour long eight hours long very. Tight package in scum of the most like I've enjoyed watching stranger things more than any football. Then I'd seen it yet this year. I mean you'll want Cleveland. And grill party or did you counsel let's point from it counselor best T. Only the US were exhausted but once in west wing servers are nab problem and and they blew the call well. Western observers are in the 22 episode problem trying to catch up on west wing is so intimidating. That I I I don't average had to watch him all but I love the catching the occasional Lott episode of president hardly company. But US and big you know. Actually go up but I am into what orders and new black has another season out so I got to get a bid to watch that after that I can now I'm gonna go well for me like that seconds pass out. I'm totally hooked on them just love those. Showers and they'll put him in Jefferson and and I demanded school you know good and that's got to don't feel like Donald followed sane is viewed the Internet got a lot out there like if you're looking for that. There's better places in or just the new black again. If he due to many of them I've. 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