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10-26 8am Tommy, Catholic Church says don't do this with cremation

Oct 26, 2016|

Tommy talks to Fr. James Bretzke, Professor of Theology at Boston College, about some new guidelines about cremation.

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Now Tommy talkers WW LA anathema dot com. I get a text here David that says I know you're joking. By. I have actually told my daughter. To. Bring a little shovel to the cemetery. And dig a hole and dump my answer is there some and I'll be buried in the sector in a sacred place Hoch are a cousin minuses actually did debt. And outrageous charge used to bury some matches so she went out to the family plot with a little garden shovel made a hole and poured the edges and it sure on an awful. People do that are not but if we're to talk about that with our friend a theologian from Boston College father Gretzky asks. I don't understand why it matters a few dead I don't. And you know certain and you got the cemetery police to us or you're out there with a shovel you know maybe you can I don't wouldn't for an update should. Got. Back to. Truck got an offering big shovel and I wouldn't go around dark I wouldn't we're entering a small one in the middle of the day. And nothing is if you early voting I'd like to hear me he tried early vote today will over the lines like you were worried I'll get you are cited Debbie WL dot com. You'll see a story in the flipper that says vote early and then as you scroll down from that you'll see some blue. Print that says click here to find out. Click here for more info yeah and then you get the secretary of say stateside and and you click on. Early voting locations and then you get your list. Of for example I can tell you that in Orleans marriage. You know we're in the early voting Gaza City halls on Omnia and it's one you know it's. No Algiers courthouse. Voting machines where how's it says here. And league this to communities banner on Spanish fort boulevard. Jefferson Parish again growth quickened and we'll go Joes of any parish building always Charles Odom building 5001 listening expressway. 408 minor street in tanner and grand isle community center father James Gretzky joins us right now friend professor of theology at Boston College. Whenever we have some questions he's always there fours and for soft morning father calorie mark. You and having a major surgical procedure tomorrow if you wanted to any prayers over here. It's just a couple of minutes is enough to. All the way. Maybe is eager to hear me. Sure out but critic of Bordeaux that you have to go really be on system in this does that. Keep the other people on standby in case I will do. You know why would the Vatican get involved with those of us who don't understand why would they get involved with the wind happens to your ashes at you're dead in burned. Well that what came out what was released yesterday from the congregation of approximately two called an instruction. And it's not sitting in a new laws rules and regulations it's just trying to give us. A better sensible we understand. Should be the proper disposition of of the person after he or she dies. Since 1963. That the Vatican has allowed for cremation. I think more recently they've then there's been an increasing concern that. These cremated remains are being dealt with in a wave it really doesn't respected. The Christian understanding. Of the resurrection of the dead on the last stated I think that's the problem. But he's alive and attorneys honing your allows green nations so. God's gift to put you back together anyway right. Right to that that is I think that the misunderstanding people think. The Vatican's concern that somehow make it more difficult for guys to to do God's work on the last state. I think the concern is that people insurgents since. Our whole lead two. Is that departed in ways that don't read the reflect our understanding of the communion of saints. It's sort of like your views a metaphor. The circle of life in the line he. That you know we're we're going to the ground readers to grounded him a while Chris come up. We're part of that that really is completely understand need the resurrection. And be eternally and I think that's what the Vatican has tried to get. Trying to work that we don't think people's terms. I don't run as buddy and I've gotten from a couple listeners that say they can't afford plots of what they do. Is they go to the cemetery American here I'm serious and they and they bring a little shovel. And they dig a little hole with their loved ones already buried and put the ashes in the hole when they covered up. Are you is that okay as far as burial goes are they guilty of theft what's going on. Well that you're asking two questions of civil question nine is above my pay grade so you'd have to talk to a lawyer about them. From the trojans' perspective though he in view what was released yesterday. That would be acceptable because it says remain should be. Preserved in something like that cemetery political he took cemetery. And burying bears the ashes that fit in with what the church of saint should be done. But god wouldn't look at that age you written in the cemetery off vision and Diana applied. Well will we get to god will fight doubt but I would think that god is not being overly concerned about that. You did and now they can make people ended jewelry which. You know I don't. I don't think it's for you shouldn't be able pawn your loved ones rank. Right an and that's another that's another misunderstanding terrorist if you wanna call it an abuse you can call it and they're. The loved ones. Remain with the best not to ask costume jewelry. But the model and as the memory that we have that we cherish four of them and I think that we can do that. And then also go out and if we can visit them and agreed site or my believers something like that. There we unite to with them also in prayer and I think that's what the church's you know to reconsider. But if it gives somebody comfort to have their mothers their father. It in an earned it with them in their house or if for example Leno on today's economy get transfer lots of rather than what. You're your your dad or mother would have you loved one in the ground would be if you can take them with you make gives you comfort is that really and is a really bad. Well I I. Is that in the sense of is that evil it was they know does not that cents. But is that the best understanding. Of the eternal late and as we all week to the resurrection of the dead. I think that's the problem because then you've become. You don't become another like family here Lou retreat where you would be that you got from her great grandmother and Alec appear. I think that that's the concern of the pathetic it is trying to raise up for a. Right thank you father appreciate your time. You'll talk to you again of prayers fired I'd bother James rescue professor of theology at Boston College. I I don't understand the life Mayweather churches take and is on my they would even sing anything. And what difference it makes but if you are you know but a lot of people are sensitive when it comes to talking about. Death and loved ones zone that but I but I just askew if you have had somebody did. You know die in in the remains were and cream unit cremated union remains. Did you split them up or what did you do would you do you have plans where you would like viewers. Buried. Or your branches spread story that is going crazy and social media. And I don't think it's fake I think it's true I. Well there's guy called Michael Lee. Any graduated in 1993. From a California high school mission BA no high school. And he wrote Chicago Cubs when he sixteen world champions. You heard it here first. And it's blown up on social media you may have seen it or not but and a cubs lost last night. But that's not an Antonio that he would just right dead and take years Tony sixteen but guess is like. A monkey type in the Bible with a typewriter. You know what I mean Tommy of Texas a friend brought Dan incest is Tiger Stadium and managed to spread them in the field area. Tommy also going to be loved ones' ashes mixed with pink and that ain't finished tattooed on your body. Know when Tommy the way I see it is when you're dead you're dead of one family cremate me with the money they save over burial day at a party. This says if you worry she needed to be herded by some organization like the Catholic Church. You deserve to duo was stupid things they suggest. The Catholic religion and believe in cremation is Tex says and tiller cemeteries were full their fear of disease also played a part. In changing their minds before sue was seeing how convenient. And I think you know the thing is indeed when you when you get to be you know when you know upper thirties you start to think about faith and you start to wonder. You know what's real and what's not what matters and what doesn't and the reason I wanted to just been a couple of minutes on this is for the life of me I don't understand why. The church would get involved with this and why it matters. I'm with the tax that said when you're going you're gonna if anything it would seem like the church would say Willis spirit that's what counts. Not the vessel and had you know on the last stadium to be reunited with your body and if god can do anything when he can put jazz is back together and and if somebody has your ashes and and learn. And moves from here to Seattle I'm sure got to be able fine in Seattle. I think. So you tell me something else to talk about is. Early voting we have been talking about that I would like to hear from me at 260187. Mean let me know if you early voted and how was it. Yesterday or today if you plan on early voting. And then there are some maneuvers. Being considered to get my Guinea to resign. They can't force him to resign but the Jefferson Parish council can refuse to fund his office. Still Woodard to reduce the salaries of his staffers or eliminate their jobs entirely. And isn't a Smart strategy or would it just hurt the parish and people didn't do anything wrong. Other people who continue to work from Mike any tainted by his scandals and if you works morning. Which you resign even if in men being unemployed. Or would you keep your jobs and she hadn't done anything wrong. I'd keep my job but I wanna know jolting to 26018. Stephanie you know what it would bugs me about this cremation thing in the ashes is not. You know here's the thing comes to say that Hank Wisconsin Tom. I'm Catholic and I like archbishop Raymond and he seems like a very very nice man. But when it comes of these silly little things like this in really. It makes it hard to you know I mean does it really silly. I think it is sounding. You know I wouldn't pretend to speak for god but I can't imagine him. Hearing what happens to your ashes. You know what I mean. And if if there isn't you know if you are reunited. I would think god who can do all things can bring your body back together whether the ashes are all at one differently Sewart. I do you know this if you got a dead net closet and all of a sudden he's there you know the end is near right yeah. But it's it's silly little rules like that they just make me think that it's more about controls and it is. Substance of the bottom line is no scattering is out. There yes yes pretty much snow again rattling and name he says it's got something to do it. Neat terrorism. That people while that's derived from nature I wanted to be taken out to the ocean or the teachers and I Hope Solo right in the bunker. A greenside bunker on number fourteen a dead money he'll golf course is a spend most of my life and there anyway yeah. So it would just be like regular you know malicious or silly little rules when it comes to religion that. You said he did and then he talked to your kids about here know really. As I did with mine last night is again this luminous this thing coming up that you never know you know on owning no you don't. I did seller you know do whatever makes her feel best but don't be conned out any money you know I'd just you know yeah you ought to let us just fine I you know just. You know you've. Do what gives you the most comforting as a way to put two I think a lot of parents need to have that decision with their kids and they don't Lucy and animal ironed out at a view of the morning. He all. How well you know I'm I'm very well thank you you will you voted. I am and to vote. Fairly potent because if I wait till the last minute. Lan vote targets are quick they. Actually people that would cut it divide so I'll let me at mama I'm vote early. And the may their work on that and say what. I don't know I should tell you this they're not lose because in ninety BN home but. Now Donald Trump says he'd love to settle things with Joseph Biden money only mono behind the barn because last week. This must present a presidential candidate now we're talking about. Joseph Biden saying. That he wanted to take Donald Trump behind the barn and down Donald Trump is saying that. I'd love to settle things are you kidding me seriously. We took that now. Utterly and I like. I'm in natural born you know I'm I'm I love. And you have to vote you know a decent in the word candidate or. Recover from this or do we continue to go down in futures are up. We very much attention I think that will go up there and actually you know I don't think that back. I know. Angles as Lucy got the right idea a lot of people died for the rights. No and so I don't know it's it's it's strictly country in the world and I don't care and it. This is you know and it is gonna deal for the wind is going to be. Thank you Lucio that we on the idea that it's 843 to six 187 if you want to talk about Mikey any and choose their council cut the funding to his office. And basically I guess starve him out of office sort of the people around him so he has a staff for. He would that be the way to get rid of him. And are you kind of mellowing a little amount that some time has passed indeed thing my Guinea a vehicle ride this out. 840 I don't find the passionate be as much is it was in the first happened goals see somebody Texan about is spreading of the ashes thing it's in the Bible it's in a king James Cameron the other. But I just I don't know why god would make is gonna grow lose. All of these silly things like you know mom. The goat can't have eaten any teaser or whatever it is different things like that now. The account has to be sterilized I just don't know like guy cares about it it would seem to mean more about. How we treat each other along those lines go to John in Metairie page on your on got a W out the morning and thank you for calling. More man hours column in about the might it saying. So let me get to do more research through what but I don't know it's too much and pages. On to a seventeen year old guy but too late window. Exactly what would would have I mean would. What the intentions were or just he got caught and in improper text messages pictures like all in the same week. Number recruits are anymore and I mean white pregnant if he small kids are around noon and publicly and you know acting normal but like. A week he. This is sort of originally broken by David hammer and he saw the emails and the text rather and it wasn't a suggests that nature and it. Related to some underwear that my Guinea alleged designer underwear that. Mikey any allegedly bought for this guy who he first saw when he was in high school and subsequently. Kissed in a restroom. Those who are getting a restroom of a food court. Animal. He was out of high schools so. In all bets up that's up to you mean that your values I guess it was dead dad uses the kind of thing for a parish president to. Engage in and the big question is. If he won't quit. Should the council get involved in terms of withholding funding or shut now in the office and if forcing our worries you using. Yeah and nova me out pretty well I was just an I don't know it was Megan out that was you know an hour you know discusses that. DNC in a minute. I'm quite a game against same line a world you'd be bad to scatter and issues a little crew were keep them. As a memento with human and earned its take wherever you go anything and then. Mean. Think that the UK I mean I think it's summit could beat the Olympic keep learn to. Army or spiritual spirituality whatever. I now think it'd been wrote. I don't know too much pro Bono was that either brilliantly in that that that bad things. Yeah had to vote today and I just don't understand with. Everything that the Catholic churches deal with with everything going wrong. In this country in the world and and now he has addressed some of those things why why anybody would really care about this it is. And over again when it comes to religion I try to believe and I do believe in god but as ours each individual religion. With everybody and their own little rules of dot me Diane. And cross in the tees and if you don't duties it like the issue wrong I can't believe that god cares about any of that but. We'll see what anybody thinks thank you John I'm glad you called to clot and take on it you're on Devin have you good morning. I'm doing well and you want to. Thank you very much I appreciated what's on your mind. I would call that wouldn't know some kind of morbid but. It says the world wouldn't talk about fires that next time into that they just happened to that degree happens. So what difference does it may he has. Wallace. And post an on an unbelievable. I'm just skating. You know what I don't know it just seems to me Claude van and I believe in god and that it is. Wink adams' sometimes with religions with with the rules it is mainstream. It in God's and a Nagin and now I'm supposed to reconnect these answers now from Seattle. In new wall Thomas was the only. Thing I would think so things are. Contradict themselves do you follow one particular religion. And do you believe everything needs to do or. Summer and just about control to me about my Guinea is there any way he sees president of Jefferson Parish. I think at time and in stepped down he can focus on it and get that again and maybe come back and it is. You know politically event. You know what that's a very well thought out opinion Claudette like that. You have a good date thanks. I don't buy has has really needs you look at it sometimes we ignore the human being involved in this and apparently some didn't is not. What he would seem to be a few got a wife and I and a daughter and now the wife is pregnant again and you're reaching out to seventeen year old guys in the suggestive ways some pins. It seems like you trying to go down to roads at the same time and you can't at the end you got to pick one I would think. Mom I'm gonna stop now before Reagan anymore metaphor trouble 'cause I attend the taught myself and a metaphor quicksand some would come back talked to the gentleman Robert Evans and attorney who filed a petition a recall Mike Kenny about. Funding mechanisms from the parish in other ways so I guess to get him a quick to quit rather will be back.