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12-7 6am Tommy, latest on Ronald Gasser and Joe McKnight

Dec 7, 2016|

Tommy talks to Dane Ciolino, Loyola Law Professor, about the latest on Ronald Gasser and Joe McKnight.

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I'm David Blake vowed Tommy chalker WW well AM mass famine dot com. An interesting press conference by the sheriff yesterday sheriff Norman. You know Ambien like this guy's got Kelly on CBS lasts and lasts a person like human body was grown into the job yeah. Now the off handed comments they're raised eyebrows he referred to sheriff Norman's press conference yesterday as a that is eyebrows furrowed a bizarre press conference vote. And czar this Lisa does it's all those yeah Euro like I'm here to protect the nation. Until he gets higher offer from some grosans known but it. Yet bizarre press conference I guess because he quoted the mail the tea I get an email from some money that is timing I hope you'll apologize McKee you've been saying. That may ignite committed not coming ninth that gay essar could have driven off. And yesterday the sheriff says that he is vehicle was hemmed in so I hope you'll apologize first of all. I don't think college guys is a word maybe men. Would would be an appropriate statement or maybe. Bomb admit or something along those lines I don't know that I owe anybody an apology about that. Like OK he was and in any couldn't drive offs but it will go back to his statement. And is up ready to head where opinion poll did you hear anything in sheriff Newell Norman's press conference that changed your mind about the Joseph McKnight Schuening. And coding a share of fear. Witnesses said 99. Driving erratically across a bridge around in Norman and ignited possibly cut cholesterol off. According to a statement given to police this is gases statement okay. He said he was irritated by the cut off and this is a quote sat out after mr. McKnight. Now it seems to me that if you set out after somebody. You're gonna have a hard time. Explaining why then you'll ultimately had to use a gun Nikkei column. Because Ali had to do was hosting in a date David so many things you know when he's my plan something. A smear promotions director for radio station I would only saw with what can go wrong and work back from there ya. And that's the best way to deal would even if given a party at your home or whatever what can go wrong. Let's work back from there. So in this case I was saying generally know it probably does poured down rain like it was the other day. Was when that happened and nobody get around her reign to do is holding doll you're probably right and there are so many other things and you could say that okay it will mean night wooden cutting off. But when I see this statement. They'd gas or gave it said he set out after mr. McKnight eight. Applies. Bo we gonna do where you know lecture him on driving wariness Acer excuse me sir are. You really shouldn't drive like that you're driving all of our interns rates up. So please do me a favor you and it is solid and maybe drive a little bit better and oh yeah I was driving my craze of the keep up with Thea and applying yen to give you this lecture but let's ignore that okay yeah. That tomatoes and everything I needed now. So I apologize if that's what you want me to do because I said. Gestured should have driven off in the sheriff's that he was hemmed in yesterday's so he. He couldn't and I would ask you. Will who put himself in the position to beat him to often. Do you really think that once she set out after somebody in a road rage incident that you claim self defense of it turns ugly and you kill them. That doesn't seem to make sense to me chair in this press conference yesterday in operating jaguar opinion pull is asking you did you hear anything in sheriff knew Lawrence press conference. That changed your mind about the fielding night's shooting. And this thing it that blow images hit me like hammer one iron and say it was that. Make ninety rather the classic couldn't really drive off because he was him Dan. But if you go to the preceding each paragraph what this year said according to glasses statement. Maybe two graphs and Annette. Answers said. Make night and him engaged each other many times but that. Answers said. He set out. To. Follow. And ignite. And try to buy an exact quote here in banking and cited the Danes you know joins right now are volatile morning game. Or are up and and okay in popular too I'm just wondering that. If in his statement gases says he was irritated by the cut off. A McKnight cutting them off in traffic in quote sent out after him. Well at that point it seems to me it's hard to say human stain you ground when you went looking for trouble. Yeah and that the idea that perhaps. Cancer what are you currently aggressive. At some point. And and ultimately age group and there're over. Early. I painted on any ineligible personal responsibility. And that brought this on himself by being brought. Did you hear anything in a press conference or read anything that changed your reminder sit out legally as a professor of law. Mean that it doesn't that there is an hour is what will not sure that that groups on a viable so the and around it are obviously. Mr. capture one. Angry and he bluntly. When he should mr. McKnight not. That's that's why there was manslaughter charge on permanently in order bookings are all a rather than a second degree murder book. And ultimately going to be up to a grand jury decide. What crime that mr. tester should chart left but. It's significant and an usual he was actually booked in on a manslaughter charge you know that. Because. Well because usually. Police and ultimately cost as well Balkan charge. Second degree murder and let but he defended argued. To a jury that should be manslaughter should be mitigate it down to manslaughter. Crime rather than. Mandatory life crime of second degree murder. And the sheriff said that they cannot charger down charges they thought manslaughter was. The appropriate. Crime in the is that is an alternate days district attorney says not be too low we're gonna put this Maine a more serious. Oh yeah it's entirely up to date to the district attorney to seek whatever charge that you think that the corporate and then. Ultimately going to be a grind during that got to make its outlook decision whether to indict this man or. Where's that the degree murder in order to manslaughter something like Emma. We move on now under the Carter LA's. Case. Anything that surprised you yesterday professor about the proceedings or was it pretty much according to the script. American League opening statement and both greater amber current where political spot in. Pop that thing that I really think most surprise me one of those. That this state called as one of its first witnesses. Deuce McAllister. That was to meet. Kind of in an effort to inject into this case so liberty and emotion which is something that the prosecutors said or bought beer. Once something that was. Not part of this case you. You know reportedly very very called. There's a call about that called him in order to establish that Will Smith what exact bit. Now that's something that it was you know easily proven without such high profile witness. As he wasn't there anything brain yes I am now and again that's why it's certainly didn't make it now. To help make accurate emotional about the case and until you know couldn't put into play will Smith's status a lot. Member of the saints so. That that that and it was a little apartment. That the that the cut the state would would would do that too early on. Well in terms of the from your experience with Steve Gleason Drew Brees a lot of other saints being there to show yes data. Show their support does that even though it's not part of the official proceedings as and land with the jury at all. Well I think it certainly gotten a bit bit of that that they were there shows. That. You know the importance of of a victim in this case and and at any criminal defense lawyer knows who the victims is Ahmet it. Makes a tremendous amount of difference. Eight. Person accused of killing a very sympathetic innocent victim. Is. At the very difficult time in any case and particularly so in self defense gates. So that those efforts you know to really make it victim in this case outlooks sympathetic. And a sound stumble at this is trying to do I'm guessing in the minds of the jury. Is still not have. Will Smith's in. Thought above or portrayed. In and the juror's mind is a guy who is Leven sake Kath day or was where in street clothes when heavy but the guy that was in the uniform running onto the field right. It exactly and embarrassment too which is a Will Smith want from the constitution in one. Under the tent in the one from the defense of it and that amount to me belligerent a corrective and I'm the person who brought at all what happened on and so. Thank you Dane what should happen a day where where we hadn't trial in other words like dude did the does the prosecution know the prosecutions putting on its case right. Absolutely the prosecution case it will continue. I would expect they would yet more money being. And well not widow and Deuce McAllister party testified technical people work. Kind of the world Iran victim crime scene type. Testimony perhaps the coroner testified today. So yeah I think they've revealed that more mundane but the prop usual. Thank you Dana appreciate your time zones are you know today out seceding ceiling on uniting universe of loyal. We're Loyola university law school Donald Trump is time's person of the year I don't think it's any surprise to you not at all I don't know who else would even. Be close. In the running here locally may be. Maybe sheriff Newell Norman we're talking 96 when he examining. And a pretty Genworth painful asking you did you learn anything yesterday. That changed your mind. And it. You know both of these guys could have avoided it at any point in the ships at that himself. When I see they blazer I guess or rather in his statement said he was irritated bottoming night cutting him off. And in his own statement says he sent out after him. To me that seems you're like you're hunting almost he's got a lot of you got a lot ago he and I moment right you don't look for trouble and you founded in nineteen create a consequence of it because. It's like cool did you expect to happen well he came toward me I was in the Kelly. OK. You can but I don't think you can legally do today. Ryan in the morning on WWL I you do. Big mark on them right where you. Where Wal-Mart. Thing that really changed my mind but it did aren't doing their further reaffirmed my my beliefs. First of all. Gassed or what you grip. And a case could be in that. He was premeditated you. Could statement he went back. From what I said you're sane wanna share that he sent. Correct it and the second thing alert we're sure or Auburn better proportional. Don't go to support at all outlined comments you really what it meant that are that had nothing do with decay. Like I didn't watch the pro corporate that your normal. Or social media like to him and to learn DT Obama can't. Anything yet the problem taking credit bureau public ensure that come out. Well OK I hear that that L throw that out their personal now wasn't offended by Aetna and I didn't have a problem with the beginning NIC. Lord knows what becomes an element text screen here and there are people edges troll and and would never say things out loud they'd be it's easy to hide behind a keyboard insane I think what the sheriff was saying in my opinion. Was that this is what's going on in the background before ia. See. Except something is sacked because it's going around on social media. Let me give you an example of some of the other things going around social media from one person. To an elected official and criticism is one thing I get there Ryan but. Com I don't know you can tell me young lady called and yelled and tell me at TX a 187 media think the sheriff was right or wrong for including it I didn't. You know it was certainly shocking to hear him say that but I think it does give everybody. Any insight into what public officials and and public figures kinda go through 260170. Did you hear anything during the press conference that change your mind. The thing Noual Norman should have read those comments verbatim. And I guess the third question is who do you think after hearing a press conferences relief the aggressor. And I don't have to say. Ronald cancer because once he quote sets out to go after him. I think he's responsible is gas or for what happens after that that's my opinion go. Think that we know we're doing strategically. And that we were going forward as I said order Friday in a deliberate and definitive way. It's tough. I don't care. It's new Mormon yesterday. And always at say I thought he was gonna do the right thing. Hum when all of this is said and done but one thing that struck me yesterday in a press conference was. Part of Ronald gases statement which said. That there was a one cut the other one off that they were words. And that gas Suze says he set out. Two of follow. Yasser. And innate in us to set out to follow make ninety. And to me that's needed tantamount to. Catch somebody new backyards saying come on M let's talk about it then shoot them. To me in a way on and you tell me Charles good morning in now Metairie are on double WL. Yes Mon I realized. Phone dispelled by the incident. This what role. The I already got the when one man in me and Keogh an odd man that you in that aren't that important India and leave now. Clinton did a bulk when it was. And you go oh you know the to discuss the case before he. Meant I would do that. Put India that the prosecution and meet Annika is number two I realize. He will. Ports involved because they can and it would go and order. And so that means it. Mean got all that. Didn't intend to do it in support that report it report. Now what do it. And got into it may be in this year. Well then that we know of one of been ten years ago and and another when. A couple of days ago yes it is so in terms of the sheriff said that he was able to as a result of not resting arresting him. Interview him for ten hours without any lawyer being present you do you think anything was gained command because when you say leave it up to the the that the judge leave it up to the jury if I do a ham and I don't live up to who. District attorney okay well they got to have a case and evidence to try you understand it ranked. Go right to explain it to tell you. And make them. Do all. I know them well on the ball and did that network. Now the investigation was not held to make himself up. The investigation was not held the sheriff said yesterday he used that time to interview dancer for ten hours before he lawyer got. Well. It can happen in 2000 gene in general what is. And it is going to be shot to go to win tonight. And a choice on what sort immigrant Marta. I see things sheriff Norman is terribly grudges and hates black people was are you saying. Don't know no know so. That they are you an attorney. It turns. Out that no. Well thank you and lady called big Mike thank you under the W morning. And I'm right you. Should. Put. Sure. You need drop the ball on the line. Ought to. I. It's. What's in the agreement. In which meant that. And the view. It from the war. Iowa about what the sheriff said in my guess less colleague sheriff said he was able. Come talk to. Bomb gas or for ten hours before he lawyer up. Do you think there was worth it was it worries Symbian out of jail so the and not being arrested immediately so the sheriff do you get all the information he could do. Prosecuting. Our corporate and the real that. Broke. It. What you mean. I. This. You can.