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1/23/17 10:10pm Double Coverage with T-Bob & Kristian

Jan 24, 2017|

President Trump says he won't release his tax returns. Should he to ensure there are no conflicts of interest?

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Quantico ultimate double coverage. To about eight air crushing Garrick ten Zimmer. And master control appeared mobile me announce it right for the Senior Bowl. Practices tomorrow T about his job back in the world isn't. Before we dive into with three pretty I think the conversation are at least a good conversations this hour. Involving president Donald Trump those tax returns while a news at the weekend and today. About that very subject. You heard the news or two about about Madonna right there that don't mark this weekend. Yeah blow up threatening to blow up the the White House and I can tell by your yeah that. He EU. You don't necessarily agree are at least I'm guessing with that was a dumb statement you would agree that that was just ill advised her to say that but. I kind of feel like this forget the it was a Dick Cheney that's wanting. Certain health. Let the beam is as far as. Deep just same old cast and crew all those. Swampy politicians that are ready aides are much Newt Gingrich oh yeah educator is the same old crowd pretty small. But. Hey I say don't thrower details just I mean negotiate she's that she's. Said that she would. Former certain act. For an earlier votes I think shoes hat the look that campaign promise that's awfully good about our comments. About the White House game. Tim Tim says he doesn't. One any venereal diseases. I don't want I would wanna know how what what Madonna touch it and it. So I'm not gonna let the units it's Madonna products and its ilk without him I would litmus takes have anybody else is that who knows what happened. I mean she's Juan. Change argue you'll you'll screens of death if six and a unified more attractive when she point six I'll gross sees that the eight gross okay is gross volume more attractive to the Earl. Attractive I'm sure rocket fire zone put. There. Who knows what's crawling on. Who knows. I mean that's where I'm good to meet each seems to be in fine health gross gross know it all in all seriousness though. Like there was a lot Al rates this week in madame. To me about you among them. It was a lot of outraged about how could she say that and look here's Utah is a guy that. I would be the first look like yet you can't say that but I really that took a look at look at it as like can. Really. But yet look at how lawless said. Does she really have the means which she really try. And they'll and it was not an. Right thing to say like Warren court pop and yes Christie Brinkley's the only ones him I agree. But you when you were like it dealt with pops speaking now between you being pretty chill about the dollars it's an increase. It is crazier but at the that is a cattle. I guess some might I mean I Russia I think it's John dear to you that the problem Madonna thinks up like that. It is that it works against what you're trying to polish it does like it does like look I agree on what everybody else on the celebrating. Oh win that Nazi gaga partially I don't mind. And he he person who preaches. Like. Nazi ideals I don't mind it before each and it's also should know I've looked at all of read all about it yeah absolutely. Is just neo Nazi. And it looked we love Americans love not g.s being punched in the face raiders Indiana judge cap America it's also my Greek life. Unfortunately. When you're talking about protests in as soon as you bring violence in that you give decide that you're protest he ammunition to throw. Back against you so what Madonna has to realize. Is that it makes you look incredibly intelligent because all you're doing is actively working to put it where you're trying to promote. She was a performer are in its in L she's trying to do is form but that she was just trying to walk to the crowd well I guess what he's saying is the reason I had an issue pockets because. I have a lot of respect for pop. Prior to this in I guess. That part disappointed me and I doubt exists in the exit deadline Madonna like which which she says like that have a lot of respect for anyway so it's like whenever it's like we. Always say win expectations right it's where did they land in relation to patients were them. Yeah are so this hour all right so we talked about last hour my Twitter rant that led to our our conversation and in and now I log on Twitter on Sunday morning. Check it out to about 200 it was a it was long it was a very good conversation in an hour to steal his thunder so basically it has to do with a don't throw tax returns. We talked about Clinton can take it from the right of it is like to get office. A whole dialogue so. There is this ongoing issue. Donald Trump tax returns. We go OK so. Open I'm trying to be different if you were his his refusal to schedule up on what happened over the weekend. I'm trumpet of the election cycle cities coroner releases tax or death to the audit was done. We yesterday telling Conway came around said he would not release his actions saying quote. The white Greek because his petition going around online attrition where. When he was a while ago what are when these petitions reached. 100000 signatures which is that the court vermilion now. On when he reads what does the White House has to respond so counting calories a quote. The White House response is that he's not going to release his tax returns litigate this all the election linked here. They voted for who they make is very clear moves here to divert drugs and what they're tax returns look like will present trouble now is in office not. Would he is it would look like well this did not go over well. According to multiple polls. I have the numbers are anywhere from like. Sixty to 74%. Americans say they want him to release these terms including about half. Of all Republicans this and I go over well. She came back today and said oh wait no we're not the report released but once again once the audit. Is over. Now. IE. So every time I bring this my problem with bringing this tax returns above me to try to head off a few yards and no I'm going to get to going to give you have to come with more creative or better arguments in this. When every this upheaval or seized a flight. Do you care how much money. So why we released him he probably doesn't change needs tag paid taxes and people get angry or is futile argued he was going to take advantage of tax laws and you should change him. My issue. With people telling me this is that might issue would trump releasing his tax returns is not about how little he hates. Yes I do believe that when you see like the riches of the richest of us. And the small percentage is that they play I do think it really does hurt. His like champion of the middle class claim makes it look like a farce. But that's not why I'm so adamant that these taxes need to be released. Rather what I feel and I feel that this is obvious it should be pressing to every one. Is that the problem nominee's tax charges we don't know about the potential conflicts of interest. That could rise from being the leader of the free world here here's a quote. From the Washington Post where I this and this has pretty secede. He says. The reason for the and Brandon screws a group of the reason for I don't know what this were to Scioscia said that six a series of the reason there's. The reason for this for the public to get is for the public to get a better idea of the financial relationships that trump brings to the Oval Office are particularly. With foreign entities and creditors. Is Majorly important thing and a man who would make you policy decisions in countries where he adds investments and loans and all kinds of dealing that we don't know. What they are still held in re able to judge. His motivations where another right or wrong in remember that every major party candidate since Richard Nixon. After Watergate has released those taxes are to him for all of Donald charms talk about com. About genome under audit right now so it can't released him. When Nixon released his tax returns he. Was under audit so. I I think this is obvious trouble as a billionaire. He is an empire like you said what happens if decision comes out the to benefit the empire it cost to the US or vice Versa which choice. Will he make an if we are kept in the dark of we are kept ignorant and how do we trust the motivations behind these decisions we don't know clearly. What he stands to gain or lose and then a little bit I mean did did that Kevin my opening spiel little that we go through the timeline. Of trump in his tax returns in this bull boarding. Anything at this doesn't sing that something's fishy going on but they should push these tax returns I will be shot. Okay. ID a lot more to say yeah I have ESP be creative so I try to do that and and I know you wanna get a lot off your chest summon up. I'm trying to just be good active list right now a so I'll leave you plenty room. We'll take our. Where and when we get that we're going to do what we're gonna do. Is. We are going to go through the timeline. Of dollar job talking about when he's going his actions and want the listeners to tell me if they keep it aging C Angel fish. OK after. After argue give my piece of Islam is Alvin we have all that differing opinions but. Strong a couple of creative angles and there. Kind of from at it as you wish so we'll get in this apps are for right here on negative real investment couples to back double coverage so you don't but the timeline. Public don't trump and I believe. Is. What the White House counselor said today that after the audit adequately answer saying he's not release his taxes but after the audit now they would be released again. Total at the time line. For cultural president Donald Trump's. Policing the of this tax returns as the attitude so many. Silly polls conducted in 6072%. Of Americans. And it'll what his tax returns source of the the American public that. But time lights let's go to that oh. I only to lay that out and talked about not totally. So this off on you. And I think it's a real value to step up as the top line but. I feel. And I feel passionate about this because I think it's. Kind of unbelievable the amount of people that we have arguing to be kept in the dark or I guess to be kept ignorant so. Let's run down this time line and I want you all be listeners to taxi took it to me tell me you seem to be efficient so walk all the back to 2012. Christian where. He went on Greta and sister show and he yelled about how Mitt Romney should release his tax returns. Then and when he fourteen. He said that he would absolutely. Release his tax returns should he decide to run for office. In favor of 2015 he told Hugh Hewitt. This is importance and I would release tax returns bliss in this park quote. I would at least Exeter and nobody knows the tax hurt her world better didn't meet. That's specific quote is a point of consternation in the scene is how if no one knows better than him that no one would understand why he won it what to release them better than him. Those February in October 22 team. Eastern change stories that he release his returns and they found a true story out nearly Clinton's emails ended January 2016 tells Chuck Todd. The release has been delayed because he is very big returns the next month he Mattel mat lawyer. You were released and over the next few months and then later in February he makes up the audit excuse. Once again Nixon was first release and he was under ought to win he released. He doubled down on this in May seem now specifically can't release the years from them to go away or from 77 to boot into. Because of reasons. Also this is when he started to say what to release him because there is nothing to learn from them interesting. She's not corner release of these are gonna be so boring. I heels coach George Stephanopoulos by its very hard to pay as little tax as possible. Now that brings is almost up until recent times. He kept up with the audit line. Until January 11 which is peppers presser and this is where he started glued he would not release him at all. He says the only ones that care about my tax turns on the reporters and then you learn very little from tax returns to end on Dillard's of little. If there's nothing there east. East and then finally we get to yesterday. Where they said their release and has no one cares they noticed a way people do care they're really angry. In now the release him yet but after the audit says you'd tell me text line. Does it sound like anything's being paid there. Like are we idiots are re children. These guys is that parents demand that Romney releases them he's gonna sit there and say that he would release him. And then he's just didn't tell us no there's nothing here but no one knows the system better than them. Like there's major disconnect there. Exit dignitaries are CBS. That's of these. Part 687878. Let's see. All right so. Cincinnati force has a degree which to set out chino mine. He does the release them because that's suspicious that you can tell us from tax returns if he makes all of that money and it's paying nothing. You know that's a problem for me tell it that's. Ecology at NASA even my biggest issue that's going to happen but the worst part is that's legal. Some are even coming after might like those laws need to be changed now. Who knows maybe. There'd be some sort of political fallout. And like people would get angry because they're actually seen and that may be like some of those laws to change that bad that would be fine. But. But Biden being the bigger issue to me it's it's an issue of ethics. And releasing tax returns were talking about one of the lowest at the coal balls. Judy Lewis ethical borrowers to hurdle and if you don't make this may release his tax returns in you set a precedent that no other presidential candidate will have to ease Dexter and and that's a bad precedent set and look I know that this is private information. But when you choose to be the president of the United States in the leader of the free world. You don't get to be as private as a normal citizen or a normal businessman when you throw your hat in the ring you have to box. And he opposes it is so. Unbelievably clear cuts and the fact that he sued defensive. Trying to hide it so much. He is what should make you one has to release it even more he proves it to the people so that we have a clear idea. Of his motivations when making foreign policy decisions. All right so. Here's here he would be our responses to some of that day. And the use you know that the concerns about. Overseas dealings and and loans that he might have is is worth consideration for concern. Now our office in an oh immediately. Dispersants is. I well I would respond. It. And I'm sure it's at all it's gonna Collison I rolling and I apologize for breaking up technical difficulties it's time to implement so. All star witness and again it's gonna come. Immediately the first couple since is going to be you know they're gonna score should spend it right again. So the Electoral College which trip to the people of this country that's a system that we have weathered right wrong for what you were there not. Elected him but without the necessity of EMILY's List actors. It really. Wouldn't be eat at. That Bible class is now explain electoral. Electorate understood that he utilized. In as many he's not the only one. But as many billions there leaders have done. The possible method of minimizing his tax liability. From eight disjointed and really incoherent iris tax code so well focusing on. On the wrong part of the argument in in some degree instead be Serbia so you nation they should be upset with a tax system. That allows them to to take shortcuts. Com instead of chastising him offered for doing it as well it's not necessary ultimately here's here's one. He's the first president who's has the understanding ultimately how to how to get by some of that. At a B the last what I mean about left yes I mean liberals this is fighting back he's in the same tactics that he he picked that that they used on the right. This is nothing to. Wait most coordinated through this and most poetry club. I'll explain art most country club Republicans on the right are really kind of they don't really wanna get their hands dirty to begin with really truly benefit the country without year is. Elect keep their clothes in an audio of that in our country it route are really you know to. Stay out of it protector of I an up tick bites of the country but. How do you tonight does not just attack this is not just that capital out. But it's also all right look the part of the problem I think with trump is it and get a little off subject here but part of the problem that you have a don't drop is that he's. Unpredictable both sides. It's on there that are right and left. It in the right or left they wanna control wanting to the other. The truth ISIS'. Every president our country's history has had the opportunity. At conflict of interest every president. The American people that time what have. Their opportunity to judge whether. Assert executive or congressional action is too rich Donald Trump's personal fortune out of time. Personally. I think he's accomplished everything he really wants to life. I don't know that he's a silly really interested in reaching his fortune he's a billionaire unlike typical politicians. Who have been on modest salaries that are paralyzed. I'll be more worried about a casual cook real politician and being brought in Donald Trump. Donald Trump has very if you think about it has very little. To game militarily. By adding to his fortune. Now a politician office or even the White House without significant wealth. I think as a greater risk of conflict of interest on Dallas Dell by the logic here's the not really quick he's not really a plot. He's got a really Republican. Or Democrat and that's what scares people these are reckless or on what we. Republican and Democrat I have to believe he bought on T about. All Monty about the I'll be glad to talk to you about. So. He's a threat to ignore. And what's what what we've been brainwashed him. I feel like you take the best platforms it's going to take platform for both parties have formally its own unique political views other different. You might out like them but they're unique. OK so. His wife not release his tax forms. Most Americans think the in the complex actor turned down. Would be. Without them all you hear me out you're not listen to the entire argument. His tax strategies to be criticized more than your average paycheck president. He's the first billionaire to ever walk in the White House. One of the things that he was into was sponsored based in. Easements do we know what those are. Conservation easements that we know they are I'll tell you. It's a it's where you take eight charitable contribution for the value of not developing Rawlings though. For example you bias some of land night at a thousand dollars and developed. Land at 2000 dollars and eight hearings get an extra thousand dollars per acre as a charitable. Contribution for example the rough around in the fourth round of golf course for example. Is is one of those is closed conservation easements so in theory you can you can make made a tax returns. And tax deductions. That would be available to the average citizen by doing some like it could you at the money to do that would. Provide a little bit of aches. For those they're seeing that and not quite understand. So be releases tax returns. And because it it if it's not available to you. It's not that he would understand that Tibet to a sort they would be upset because they didn't have the average human being doesn't have the money to but there by. A thousand dollars are. At a property it thousand dollar return as well as we have the means to do so. And don't seem unfair but that's what the law and tax total house parties so there's a lot of but there's a lot of there's a lot. Those opportunities available to them. In its part indict yet. That gives a damn we'll know he's doing that everybody knows hold on keeping taxes. He's not the only one he's not the only millionaire billionaire to its use it and he's is that. Right of it's not about a little taxis pain already said that it's completely irrelevant to me being like I don't care about that it would called political fall out Bedard got elected. Sunnis what is. I want to know like usage sit I'm not put American first Erica Erica. Double coverage rolls on your Adobe to grow. Seven eighths. And the movies say it's amazing. That election of your along with the perceived to be. As that dial the phone lines flow problem uptown ruler market different quarterly to say this it was close. So all the motivation. Me. Critical. A lot of motivation. The lefty Anthony's tax returns. I think on the races he has ties to buster. Troubles aren't certified an affidavit that he has bill in business and as an enemy had any interest or business interest. In a form of access at affidavit now. He's an audit we. And I think it is used a crusade. Against him with tasks. Wants. This is done the funds that canals. The noble told opposite look more and more about this animal that child another that's another list. Of the innocent that a complain about. The adult video that. Yeah I'll. Say it is now greatly in that has to acknowledge it ordinarily is money in China. Or let's say he makes it makes a law about Irish OK we'll have. Way to witness how is that oh my god in. You've got to complete the house panel and oh my god whom I am stumped don't understand. Because that's that's typical of really. Part of the problem with those that are that are bashing ought to get Donald Trump is that they couldn't make up at some point to you know make a point. All right only four of those only for those that award don't wanna hear. Only for those that don't want a knowledge that there all the report on the left side and no I that's an obscene that I actually gone down to the point you're making -- were blue route you can be released with the audit is complete it the law to require you to do something. It would it would lead to the American public will need to do. That you get as up but he also say that as any other America that he's protected and at least. OK so. This is what I would say is that once again so is not about how much tax he is avoiding pain. And 100% agree review I think there are major problems with the tax codes. I do not begrudge anyone for taking advantage of those now presumably absolutely there be political fallout from that. He claims to be a champion of the middle class. He ran on the where were we we read a text. Try to find it here in a minute but I mean he ran on and the platform of being the guy who was going to be okay and in my game and transparent and changes take my eyes are. He in in in in about it did not allowing. Businesses and billionaires to get away would not paying taxes ebit is going to be political fall out. Debt is not what I care about look I understand the tax lawyers. Would tell you not released during an audit. But because it all of a sudden. You open up information to a worldwide community of lawyers accountants. People who give the IRS adjustments. Or should she be suggestions for adjustments that need to be made it would normally got the car SS two linked contract out. That kind of work. Yet it's not like deal it sucks for trop but my responses. In American citizens need to be confident of the motivations. Behind their leaders decisions Hillary Clinton was hurt by her tax returns. Mitt Romney was hurt by his tax returns. Like yes tax experts say he should release and go to bed that's what happens when you run for president you know it. To your citizens and and and I it's our job bright part of trying to find some arguments for why he. She released an in your argument is quite literally in the past. These textured to damage people like running Clinton debts deep problem because that's the exact argument as to why. You should release in the same way that those returns showed a lot of dirty miss. About Hillary Clinton about written on Mitt Romney got a clearer picture of who they work why don't we want that on Donald Trump why order people. Arguing to be kept ignorant. In arguing he kept in the dark I don't understand that knowledge is power wire people sitting here ordering tea and I don't want to know. It figures scared of that knowledge and they and in the end to say that all the people when I understand it or journalists are clueless about taxes. What does that even mean they're not gonna be one deter me Joe Schmo is not going to read the you're gonna have the tax experts breaking it down. And then the reporters in the journalists will report. Oh what the experts. On what the experts borrowing so like in it. Age is so frustrating because. We all know. That he's not paying the these taxes and that and that's what what I wanna know and you mentioned earlier. Christian about him have been America's best interest in art and be in America first. Well I would love to believe that. But we don't know where he's invested. He's just yet money tied up in Chinese banks like you said rushed abbate with some other European banks CeBIT but OK okay bowl bid but but but what in his past has led you to believe that. Because he demanded that Romney released in 2012. He said in 2014 if he ran he would released in February 2015 he said he would release 'cause he said nobody knows tax return world better than me. They Hastert's tarmac how audits and how he's not going to dean yesterday they tried to float the idea we're not going to release him at all. And it got beat down now they're back to the audit excuse. So how can you be company in deals that he is making. When we don't know if he's enriching himself he's doing what's best of the Trump Organization or would vasser America's we don't know where is debts are. We knew who he has deals with are dealing with and why we would argued to be kept. Ignorant of this is in scene two meters a great quote ordered this book about the the wealth gap. Economists studied. Over twenty countries 200 years' worth of financial records. Tried to figure out in new question was posed to McGee is capitalism inherently. Dad has contributed welt wealth every he's like capitalism should be a slave to democracy. Not the other way around it's not the captain is bad and right now. Argued to me if you're arguing that trump surely keep his Dexter and Friday that he's president to meet you were arguments democracy should be asleep to capitalism and I do not. Agree would that just because something's legal. Does not make you right. And this is a major. Ethical issue that trump is stomping on any setting a precedent for the future where every candidate you ever want to elect from now on. Since you did Donald Trump admitted he did have to release his tax terms. Nobody will in the future and became more ignorant have less information on our leaders and to argue for that in my opinion is of certain this is nothing do with the election. Nothing doing left knowing dude right. Nothing do with Hillary freaking Clinton. This I hate like this is about Donald Trump you or president our president. Moving forward in what's right or wrong and he's running on America first platform yet we don't know what countries he owes money to. What if he owes money to cut it into bigotry into BV today. It before which adhere apologize McCain UT on via the phone lines. On all coming that'll will wind Newt. I mean it's it's as much as he and I. Disagree it's always on its lightening. Unit EU indicated at least eager in its and I hate you and I hope that you quit Greg and never. Talk on aired you know what. Of course. How well right now I'm not fair pay me that's music to have a few items that once it detects music from them. The contributions. Barbara we have currency rule it out there. Look like yeah it's ours are real fired up tonight but they think you'd ever want got a ball texting tweeting and calling. Timmy did an excellent job behind glass is always do gas. And yet to all the wonderful listeners textures to musical love you the lifeblood of the show and see what.