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2/6/17 8: 10pm Double Coverage Is Tom Brady unequivicly the best of all time?

Feb 7, 2017|

Super Bowl 51 lived up to the hype, Tom Brady and the Patriots stormed back for the win over Atlanta. What will be the story from Sunday’s big game - the Falcons choking away a 25 point lead or the Patriots epic comeback?

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Yes indeed simplifying good evening welcome into this Monday edition of double coverage here on WWL anathema dot com ten Zimmer master control with a fresh cut. Just again trimmed up of their. I gonna hang out there and look I hope never had a great weekend it's certainly as great suitable tool for Q1 how good was that. In terms of just sheer drama and just in general investigating. The falcons politically five point second half lead. Patriots win in overtime 34281. Ever suitable. To go in overtime Tom Brady. Or four yards passing. Fourth time suitable in BP five at all five wins and all for Brady and Belichick. All kinds a records set. Suitable records passing yards wins etc. Com but goodness gracious is live at the height that was a big thing going it was ago live up to it and look like in the first half the falcons were runway of this game. Twenty to three halftime art when he won three they were up 25 points and after. And the wheels came off. And he's so much so am I trying to unpack some bull 51 as to what went wrong in the AG seeded agreed breakdown as to. You know how the meltdown happen the anatomy Ella a collapse by Atlanta Falcons and a lot of things contributed to a but. I'm with you guys are aware guiding Jack Reid he wrote a book football clock management you football coach Ko Slobodan high school but he he's written several books on. Management and the do's and don'ts of game management and clock management and in particular. On now on just coaching in general and coaching mistakes that that are so Lofton made even at that and at the pro level as we saw last night from the Atlanta Falcons. Why would you not slow the game. At some point. You're up 25 points you still snapping the ball with only seconds let them play clock. You believe five of those you know just five of those play a valid point seconds. You'll lose a game. They had a 99%. Of the motherland about 99%. Chance to win that ball when they were up 25 that's a 28 through twelve points. You write some via the thousands rushed four times in the second half via. Look. You could second guess a lot of things about this game. And you can debate. Whether. The falcons. Joked to game away or whether the patriots. You know amount of the best comeback. In it's intentional. Use of the word comeback and sensible answer which is a little bit of both put. Eat at first and ten at the 22. At the pages point two you're going for points you're up eight point to that at that point and you call passing play gets sacked you call another passing play is holding penalty and is first in 33. Army's third and 33 excuse me your way back that your out of field goal range. And he'd just run the ball on onto those and say it was maybe we lost three arts you still like we'll map Brian can give you in terms of a field goal to make it a two score game with I don't know two minutes two and a half minutes left and the awfully difficult for the patriots to come back. By the way Robert Alford from southeastern epic six of Brady was a thing of beauty look a lot like Tracy porter's interception a Peyton Manning is suitable. 44. First time ever a team has returned a pick six and suitable lost. I mean. The insults keep coming for the Atlanta Falcons they were on the doorstep of winning their first ever simple. Blown out Tom Brady and patriots. And they got silly they got too cute with their play call. Did that didn't slow down the game. Didn't produce enough clock management. Are efficient enough clock management. He always starts slowing down the game and run a ball four times in the second half. So if I was answer a question to the falcons choke it away absolutely that's what happened on I try to take away anything. That that Tom Brady accomplished. He was he was outstanding. Is unbelievable. And yes without a doubt he's the goat he's the greatest of all time there's been some debate about it today there is no debate. Tom Brady with five rings is ago but. Yet they choked away they had. So many things went against him. TE defended 983. Or 94 snaps. Including a two point conversion that tied it up descended in overtime. You are on balance. The falcons had this one right back. I know saints fans are. Our smile on the year to year I've seen some very colorful means some great means from saints fans today troll anyway if options mean. Just on mercifully do. Brutal. But they're entertaining an error right. Falcons' top of fans had this stated it they were countering there already taken out at Tiffany company. Design and are the blanket RD ordered the the trophy case for the Lombardi. And say that tongue in cheek and you see his reaction bottling. Yet his views on the field witnessing this epic collapse and it was the greatest I think for my money. Out of their mouth off at the one. That without a doubt the best available that I've witnessed. Into the history will run down some of the numbers that were the stats that were broken in the records that were broken. In suitable 51 yesterday at 34 when he win comeback win for the New England Patriots. The phone lines are open at 504260187. Now the safe to say Tom Brady's ago and what do you think about. What do you think about dynasties in and pro sports is a good or bad to have dynasties. I mean the Yankees and baseball the patriots now. Ninth Super Bowl appearances at all for that franchise five wins. The patriots the bulls the lakers. I mean the 49ers. The Packers once were but exclude different with the gradient in it in a current. New England Patriots is because they've defied all the odds and a lot of weights. And just go back look last night at a 1% chance 1% chance to win. In the third quarter 1%. In and of get it done and it beat the odds with. Free agency were exposed to level the playing field and make it much harder to establish dynasties. Without a doubt look I don't like I don't think they're good. For pro sports some of it might be Hayden I guess if it was my team and yet they're like oh. Absolutely I'm for dynasties if if it's if it's for my team but then again when you look at it as a whole psychic. It reeks it it flies in the face of that hole parity conversation. He really doesn't exist in an unstoppable not in the way that they want to believe it exists. And also you can weigh in on that final four to 60187 he can be up on Twitter act crushing Garrick coming up Josh outpour. Right for pro football talk dot com will join us at the bottom of this hour aimless Morales the third will join us. Later in the 9 o'clock hour right for Nolan a comet ties to you go back for your phone calls national coverage WL IMF and aka. Tim did you steal Tom Brady's Jersey. Big doings about that right now. How that he does. Capped off the best comeback and some bully streak. To block a put you know locker room Pritchard Jersey as a keepsake. One of many for you by the way. In you putting your bag and it's no longer there it's like somebody's trying to make money off that old Johnny eight on among ailment you're gonna decline. Thank you realize it and united elegantly with that would say to them. Now. Yeah right exactly I mean it is there's an APB out on it if it turns of anywhere. Did you think did somebody really figure out dislike this Acela. No buys a track game that he's not a mystic the one it's the Super Bowl Jersey. Now low light to steal the MVP the goat. Steelers is who bulls Jersey. Text 8787 he called me at 504260187. Nancy. Scroll through double tech that is you know we'll have some fun give us give me your best. How Ken's day. Out once and had to go to work today. And put my phone on. Falcons vote no ring. Of brutal sauls of brutal sedate your best gig and 8787. By the way where Susie Susie. You people. Reacts Susie. Tone range until it was going on your on W him well Tony. Panic reaction is going McCullough in the well and opportunity last night I would or commuted a lot should at least Super Bowl. Troll all of the outlet would one network I'll. I think you all look bad a couple of put it. Can't beat him. Sleep at a I talked it out from. Me at orchard with O and chairman of the board go at him and old people. I want to K. The quarter and people all new pre jukebox or because. Just like Reggie Bush years ago that collection. People's water. Too poorly on internal and she goes patriots came in one of the game out. Via Google looked like what you can get it out or. Called patriot. Broke his would be played football ought not. Oh. I knew that was gonna go about a new nose and that was it was a dig a subtle dig at both the falcons and it paid season in Allen. Look. People get a reference spiky deflate gated sent our. But. There's no denying. The legacy now of Bill Belichick and Tom Brady is I understand it it's tarnished to some with despite the the flaky controversy. And that and that cloud of a doubt about being cheaters certainly is gonna hang over their head to some but if you look at this accomplishment. From Brady Belichick. You can't law he can't help ago my goodness. How good and they're the best. Of the best ever both them the tandem. Unbelievable Chris Amanda go slumming you're on W Democrats. What about. Augusta and I that there transport. And not the odds won't. Be out there and got the Ryder. You bought. I but it didn't come. Out. And kill. And so. And the good. I'll at this point and the light. Why. Did not come on what does that title. We're. Wanted to school where. We got thrown out. As the it can that was so that they. Are not at all about you want to do that. Does what they do it back into it. A couple. Look a couple more at this point is give a little greed is one more time to start you one more before breeze hangs them up. About a way of you guys heard. Donovan McNabb say some of the day again I get mistake but he said some of the effective. Brady's is just walk out right now my drop. Out on top. Have a chance to win more he's playing an elite level as as evidence last night. I'm covering them up retiring is that the arena thought my head. He'll start route he'll consider retirement to your plate diminishes. And yet you Olivia and guy it and devices. Only had his last year. He just didn't quite look to saint the president say that about Brett Favre nobody has said that about Brett Favre nobody's gonna say that about Peyton Manning. Clues those two guys and their last year didn't look like the hall of famers that they are. In a Tom Brady was he's earned that right that right he was let them play outside the wheels come off. It and had the arm strength area is body start to breakdown he's earned that right to play one more year. Plays launch weekend. EE. He's great for the game of football in terms of just quarterback play unbelievable. Chuck. You voice. Let me. I was not necessarily looking for New England but. And Chu who. I didn't. You know we've got. We've been only pristine as they're easier. I just couldn't allow that the pigeons. To get equal footing the garden beginning. I would get out but you know in and no disrespect but the biggest collapse all time it was coaching failure. Because we've got 25 points. I get it would be seen Uga. Just two and one quarter to play. You don't blow it into coaching. Into coaching to recognize that you court you go torch. Put to a court came quickly world pixie. Little global. It is much you wanna talk about you know great quarterback play indoor on coast are fundamentally mean. You're duke audible in pink pistols and give them issue this morning the ball. In no it didn't do much with it there. You know but the current critically five point here. So would you 25 point lead in your deep in the field. You comparable to win Beijing. Beijing would know sickening new adjustments did dig deep into the aid into war which are deep indicated no time to. Yeah and look chubby. Here's the deal at at 604 and a third court of the falcons still at that point five point lead tweak it three. Over the patriots their odds of winning were in 99.9. Percent. 604 remaining in the third quarter. You can't put this on a players this is without a doubt and act as I grew he joked. It's on a coaches Kyle Shanahan Dan Quinn at the head coach CBS news your phone calls next. Indeed it was Kevin Carlisle a caller from Westwood One in. And got a tech city 77 about Brady's a Jersey in stolen after the game apparently one hour techsters stole his jock strap. Success. Is curiously is a big ones small and all the beware jock straps anymore honestly. They do they even use those anymore that's like. 1980 stuff with two Sox etc. and and an elegantly it's like if that's as bad as the the coach is short term the coach's shorts because they can you too young for that. And when you rocked the coach's shorts back in the day who. Those things are pretty groups. Josh Al per ad Josh helper on Twitter right for pro football talk dot com what's going on just thank for joining us. My pleasure doing well. First off. He still kind of unpacking and digesting this epic collapse from Atlanta. Yeah I I do this could just got back home a little bit ago that literally unpacking and Julia and continued demand the impacting. Now idea it was in its religious boggle the mind it that they waited that play calling went down. On that last that last stretch of play there. And how close they weren't really. Including the game and I and I mean and not part of dubious thing god given what all of my I really doubt on the job. I mean that kind of thing the burn through that it's not that the media that far and I don't know that they you know you are in a guarantee chips. How would you how would you classify this isn't it it was a south can show garb. You know patriots epic comeback in a mixture of both my house I would you how would you answer that. Mean I think it spoke because I think any time there's acute come back and you know it doesn't matter. Which in the game you know that. Tighten back or a sort of Oilers built built game where our land and you know that those games you you're given opportunities routine to come back and take advantage I mean we've seen any games were team rate cut were 21 nothing lead and went opening when he went and and doesn't really do anything with the because the other team in February but you know you you have to be able to do something at the opportunities that are given to him and you know the patriots did last I. You know they were given every opportunity to because the falcons are really you know kind of curled up there in the fourth quarter. So you would you put this squarely on the show was of Kyle Shanahan the former and now head coach of the 49ers of the former offensive coordinator is Dan Quinn I mean. They had a lead point 52 point five points wait a 3604 remaining in the third quarter a go over some odds in the probability that they would win that game it's. At that point it's 99.9. Percent sure the falcons would win that game. IPad jumped for the ball. Yeah I mean I think Shannon and I think you know obviously some of the your of this equation I mean he coached. Eating your ordinary you know reconsidered browser and run the ball three times I don't care what happens particular problem complying with and and you know don't fumble on their own interception on its back. And and look some of that amount and I mean I'd I don't know what you play call was on that last. Their you know their final possession. I think it is if there was anything other than a political they're called for an to have one quick look and then throw the ball away then governor from the coaches but it it was. If you have to find that something was there and then get rid of the ball I want and I mean you Egyptair into the situation everybody involved and and it felt like failure to across the board. Josh Al Brad Josh Al per our guest here writer for pro football talk dot com breaking down Super Bowl 51 the fifth victory in the suitable for Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. Is he unequivocally the goat. We're joined by law I had that are at breaking birdie. Brady out for me for me he is. Over this period of time I mean he won his first title in in you know sixteen years ago when another one that I. He's a better player now anyway and and I mean you can bet against him winning at least one more or both stories gone in jeopardy I think he's at least. I mean he talked about more eateries stock and five more years currencies and that's on the very reasonable arguments about orbit and elegant as he's an outside America. Who. Do you think dynasties Josh. Lakers bulls basketball are they good for pro sports. Yeah because I think stories that are good for pro sports and then. David replied that good for pro sports book there's something that will always be special about that huge nineteen. That blows them out of magnitude of the kind of team where. Entire seat in the day when those two bubbles because of who they eat you know because they beat the patriot. And the same way that part of the patriot slower it's going to be these sites to global by the principles that have ever been played. And the last two mediated tubes suitable than ever but Clinton the most exciting ending to promote the government played and that plays into it and so this then that what we do at finely beat these guys and and that whole running story lines ago as run through every seat in promote let two decades the Arctic I mean I think that's good enough well I don't know I mean others might be bored by it. Obviously my job that'll tell the stories so you know that makes it easier for me and and it's enjoyable. It does some kind the other. In the other corner words like that again a little fatigue you know seeing the patriots you're a year out do this seeming earlier in the year I mean it with eleven. Commerce title game six straight conference title games and they are two syllables and three years it did it already once before under Bill Belichick and and Tom Brady I don't know maybe I'm just being to get off my lawn cut up old curmudgeon but. And I just feel like it's not his son is good for the league now the league secretly necessarily wants it to happen this way because date date date out. In a champion parity parity parity or by the chance but. Really and truly I don't think Milledge and have a chance in the AFC in particular. Until green belt checkered done hang out Josh Al Gore at Josh helper on Twitter right for pro football talk dot com the falcons around the state. I think they're very promising signs you know they will rookies quite usual on defense who were much better in the playoffs and they had been. You know the mid point of the season and and I ripping it and when you continue to put. That defense together the way you want Kia and Ngo and beyond Jones. Grady Jarrett it means as good football players and the kind of players would you know you wanna build around for the long term I think the offensive it'll be interesting to see what happened I. I I would think that Matt Ryan what happened this year is not a blip. But it was a big jump from last year and now you're gonna happen in new documents of some sort or another and I I think there's always always questions there but you know he's got Julio Jones in the Arctic Freeman in Evan Coleman you know acting. I think definitely it could be long and saying. You do I mean it's a long time until September but I I think you really do you guard against. Hangover from that and and a ticket early start talking about that worrying about that but that was such a brutal law that. It could have that be the last feeling in the in the genes had like it's gonna take a little bit. Two to get everybody right back on the right track that they're gonna need to become. You know I get mate whenever you know off the market Politico. That's emotionally taxing though Josh yeah because you hear about that for four months and really until next season nine months eight months and it's gonna play it's always did. Look at the Carolina Panthers I think you mean there's there's there's real truth to the Super Bowl hangover myths that average I east at this ice dismiss that it. And just watching it and in particular the way they collapse they're gonna hear about this. Come for for nine months and certainly that and at the live with a for the rest of their lives Josh out Brad Josh Alba on Twitter writer put the ball talked. Dot com itself math appreciate the visit thanks meant. There was coming back for uptown ruler in your phone calls at 504260. Point 87. 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