Feb 14, 2017|
Under the Texas bill, people would be required to use bathrooms that correspond to the sex on their birth certificate. Is this the NFL's business?
WWL’s Kristian Garic, Seth Dunlap and Jeff Palermo talks LSU baseball as the Tigers continue their campaign in the NCAA Baseball Regionals Saturday in Baton Rouge against the Southeastern University Lions with WWL callers.
WWL’s Kristian Garic, Seth Dunlap and Jeff Palermo talk LSU baseball as the Tigers continue their campaign in the NCAA Baseball Regionals Saturday in Baton Rouge against the Southeastern University Lions with WWL callers.
WWL’s Kristian Garic, Seth Dunlap talks LSU baseball as the Tigers continue their campaign in the NCAA Baseball Regionals Saturday in Baton Rouge against the Southeastern University Lions with WWL callers.
WWL’s Kristian Garic, Seth Dunlap talks LSU baseball as the Tigers continue their campaign in the NCAA Baseball Regionals Saturday in Baton Rouge against the Southeastern University Lions with WWL callers.
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Cents per file always faithful welcome back a Monday edition of double coverage opened by had a great weekend festival carnival season underway. So accrued who over the weekend Tim Zimmer master control crushing our pain now in it till 11 o'clock right here. Got Cindy Boren as Cindy Boren on Twitter sports writer for the Washington Post as an 835 and shipping gears at 940 talk in the jet Palermo. News and sports rector at the Louisiana radio network and also contributing writer at W dot well dot com. Tim didn't come in here. Before the show with some great art epic stories about as we can some imagining. As kind of mild did you do the arm wrestling thing the whoa way to make you bailed out of that. Fun way to slow ugly too late on Saturday it's no good check in on you. And I didn't get any tags or tweets an awesome from the house like man on bail deleted he is at the talking all that noise on Friday. Does jump. Matron of it than a quarter so then okay now learned that you probably on Friday and I had a little wild night on. Now Coca ninth seed to slip late. I. Disappointing that and now as willing to pay that an entry fee you know I was I was really one deceive your arm got broken and like dad you're gonna have any serious injury. I was like eat you leave me with nothing like highlights coming on Monday's final it will come a week in good or bad that Tim might have had that looks sounds like just a very bland boring. We got all the code of who was good right now is pretty self operated by the way trolling is. Out in earnest for bock as they controlling. The Atlanta Falcons fans will get in that will be the first well dive right in on. On the side on the subject for this hour. As a state of Texas considered a bathroom bill that would ban trans gender people from using the public bathrooms in which they feel most comfortable the NFL issued. Pretty strong reminder that such Walcott affects features should bulls in that statement they just posted a comfortable that they wanted to Houston. It's series now. Go back and look at history 1993 NFL moves the ball from Arizona in 1990 when neo Wednesday banned. Wednesday had not passed on wall recognized in the birthday of reverend Dr. Martin Luther King as a holiday and threatened to do so between fourteen when the state was considering a bill that would allow business owners to. Deny service to gay people for religious reasons. The NFL says it in embraces old inclusiveness which is fine OK no matter where you stand there. Arm however. A similar bill. Had economic impact in North Carolina which lost the NBA all star game that landed it right here in new laws this weekend. Series going off. About that and part time digesting. When I was struck as a anyway. So they lost also a game and in in North Carolina is he double way. In big time concert also San Antonio was set to host the final 42018 and dallas' side of the women's final four. Any ultimately between fifteen and in NCAA flex its muscle over Indiana's religious freedom restoration act which allowed businesses to refuse. Service to a gay customers in the name of the religious beliefs. Just days before the final four. My question to you is and look the NFL where is the Super Bowl the NCAA with a final four. In the NBA with the all star game they have. They have an entity they have a brand they have a commodity exclusively. And they can provide to an end to particular city. And they can sell. My question though is should the NFL. Be in the right are they in the right or wrong for threatening Texas would no more Super Bowls of legislation targeting transgender people is passed. And look. In discussions before the show out it was highlighted to me hey look it's that it's it's down one of those deals where Texas also has the choice to make. Damn right to go all right well guess what. We're not what we're gonna pass this bill. Regardless now I would be extremely difficult to do because of the economic impact and it's Super Bowls NCAA final fours. Annie B all star game has on those respective cities. My issue here where that is I have I have a problem with the NFL NBA RNC two day. In rejecting instate walls in rejecting and state business. Meet. This is an over reach. On a lot of levels because they recognize how powerful that is so their holding and and really what this is about is the NFL more so than. Perhaps NCAA on the NBA Vick. It in the NFL if you don't build a stadium you'll get a Super Bowl a futile. Align themselves with their political agendas you'll get a simple. With their political beliefs. In Daniel consumable. And I think it's an overeat I think the NFL shouldn't be in the business of telling a state what laws they can and cannot pass. It that your principal aid if it passes if you believe that and that's a bill that you that you want to propose. They go ahead and propose and then it's up to the public to vote at both Ford are against it. But don't compromise. Something because you feel like. The NFL is is gonna is gonna take that game away from you. Four if you could potentially passes I think if you're. A lawmaker in those respective states cities. That your job is ultimately to promote laws now some don't feel like they might be dumb. I inclusive understand that. But I just think the NFL has no business Telus state. Our city what have you. But he can't pass this law that all the benefits the NFL. That they can do. To build a stadium fine they don't know no student no suitable. Mean. MI off base here. And I feel what it feels this way. Or is it like hey now that's their right to have a brand they have a a commodity they have a game that they can sell exclusively to that particular. City or state and if they don't wanna buy if they don't want conform to them and have the right to pull. 504260187. Text 8787. Operating jaguar opinion poll. Look it's warned pretty strongly should the NFL bully states to conform to their agenda in order to get a suitable. Yes sir yes and you cast your vote online at W you'll like com or call me. At 504260187. Text 878. Seve also want to correct person you are double coverage rolls on here on WWL enough and aka. Is it the NFL's place to. Inject themselves in. A state bill at Texas a bathroom bill that would target stringent transgender day threat their threat is Peyton osu rubles if that bill passes. They make your presence felt make your opinions known which today he'll hold a city or state. Over the barrel little bit hostage. And a couple and a number of really good text message is an 87 meets them in the gates in a moment. But to me it's. And you can play year you can play our insert year get off my lawn I mean right now you can inserted it sent it to me act crushing dark on Twitter. But it's one of those deals where I just feel like you know some fans are put off by. The NFL and NBA in other NCAA the NHL. Inserting themselves in college if you wanna send a message like that the Nike billboard it's it's right downtown here they have a a message about inclusion OK final attack. That's how you are expressions of okay. But just as you have the power and an outcome pointed out. Joseph 6980 it's excellent points out it's free enterprise. May put the tax side that's kind of a summary of it but. Where his pardon me for being bad in my job all right so. It's called free enterprise Christian it's the NFL's property. They get to do business with whom they wish their prerogative it's also our prerogative. To play along or not. There's a not that I'd I'd I don't. And agri totally it is your. Right to play along not however I don't wanna see. Sports. And politics. And policies like would policy politics and sports sync thing. I mean. They have this is NFL owners NBA owners and NFL in particular have more. Rights because ago that congress has given more rights more so than any other business in this country get them so much more leash. And they're an innate and insert themselves but if congress does that tell them what to do none on and announce that ain't gonna fly. Sees it cuts both ways and that in that regard. Your 261 note Chris you're a 1000% right. I think it's safe to say that the majority of the public is sick and tired of the NFL's opinion on matters involving the nation they definitely have the right to their opinion but. I for 1 am sick of hearing it. Actually 87870. Call me 504260187. In Ralph up now its money on W have you well. You've been Christian and I. I think what's going on an Indian adults aren't taking a state within two doubly it and experience what it all started in North Carolina. This is nothing new little. Anita Dunn this sort of on the back to 1990. Right but the NCAA probably also were reports have a championship so I think by looking at you bet you witnesses or orders these particular experience that. They want equality for everyone doesn't matter who wore. When everyone compartment when it works on the money whether it's a vote to re we're going to be real regulatory and we're reiterate. That we're not gonna tolerate anybody being denied access to any. They can do that by by by all the aid is as powerful as they aren't as much of the media that they give him much of the attention they get. They can do that without telling him threatening state not to pass a bill. Because they do agree they can do without doing. What they definitely have. Oh yeah look I get that Ralph it's significant that's why they did it that's why they're doing it. Because they recognize how powerful they are and it's an overreach that's why I'm even more aggravated by. They have no place to element a state. What the bills that law they should have on their looks cute they shouldn't do that I don't wanna there is an attempt to you know if I were Texas this levee meet. Hey let out of our business you don't win your league. Don't tell me don't only appeals is. Now out epic decision and oh by the way guess what this bill won't pass it well the a Phil's gonna achieve its desired. Affect your 'cause it won't pass because there are legislators that in on that revenue and those counties in those cities in those areas that they needed they needed desperately in NFL knows that and their playing to that. Outplay the other part of north art gallery hurting urged. Certain. Seven championships old ebony doubly and and suitable. I mean. They didn't they they want to offer suitable when he me how you mean they're not hurting they're there they'll lose in that economic impact may significantly. Now they they might still be a good standing still might have a good budget. They still might be be be in in the green in terms of revenue in that state I don't know I don't look at their budget but you can't tell me that they're not. They're not ailing a bit from the potential of in an economic boon that would. Come within NBA all star game that's at that right here in New Orleans thankfully were getting and we're getting were reaping the benefits from that. I opened it again on the each student could possibly compared to other city because of its users aren't differently as far as political economic impact moral is a prime example. Take in LA or Vegas it's also are located now of course Ellie they've struggled at the world. A special market because. We're also quotes. Well yummy lady now you're arguing that the different markets I mean I'm argue in the fact that. Patty feel about ultimately the NFL NBA are any any other professional force sports franchise audience he delivered a much clout. Jump and in political agendas here that's really what that. The nuts and bolts lose conversations about average review new worlds especially this unique it is different there were much more power down here and across the state I mean. If you if you look at New Orleans is much more tolerant and say if you go you know to north Louisiana in terms of how they feel on political agendas and a final that it's not about. To meet. You know is this is not about. Inclusion are. Seclusion. He doesn't want it won in a one out it's really just about. The NFL NBA Mon and on business day for the phone call Ralph Carl and him and you're on W to go talk Karl. Hey art I think that each is should not be involved because. Airline issued. That was really the issue would be in what you have. Masses of people. They'll wind going to. And yet India like what could not just apple its own people out. This questions could be an act and forced one India. They start fining players that cart around people. And in just you know amp to a point where our order you'll. You'll get one of those call partner. That should be. I think it should not be born. You mention trips from car won't change that law change. Which all of the sides really except it which all of the side. And the best debate. You know the colder. That's when it. That you. Editor for that. So to make them true true true you know they were boo. Certainly more so there. Our our very best you know extortion. All. Well Anna and keep going back to 0698. Attacks on his. So far that's been the best argument that we've gotten. Which is it's free enterprise in the outcome I'm one that it's all for free enterprise via product via the talent in this deal. He should be O Leo do with it which he won. Com. Too I also think that there is like and a steal our art talent that also over inflated view of how important you more. And I think in this case the NFL. As an over inflated view of how important they are too and not insert themselves. In a state law optically org bill proposed. In a certain state meet at what point does not mean at what point we thought well we'll out it felt ultimately mandate. As to laws on the books in our country and our stay here. You got so many different people you can't satisfy everybody you can't make it. Possible. To every group of people witnessed but we're certain you have all probably. Render. Where we go through. Enjoy your trip could have been like what they. We don't beat people there. Now go change what church go two or one of the lead or the special interest. Special meters yet it would be. Dubai. Ports. I'm Lee of it at Uga better you know. It's a bit that you better. You're you're. At some point at some point yet to ask yourself where does that stop like where did where where where does where does their power ultimately. Going to going to end in getting involved in an agenda that they want to see. Our protection that they wanna see. And yet the at the consider that as to two when you might see that in there or where that. Empower each extends to his it and then an infinite you know does this disease stand forever and and it isn't there so far reaching there almost unstoppable Karl thinks of the phone call. You can jump in the conversation at that final four to 60187 text 87887. Gotti to. A couple these text messages while the leaving money out we'll get to those. But also with a visit Cindy Boren at Sydney born on Twitter sportswriter for the Washington Post once again talk about the NFL. Bully state to conform to their agenda. In order to get a suitable threatening Texas at the pass a bathroom bill. Target tranche genders they won't get a super fair or not this until one accept. And. I texting 7870. Lines are. Clark thank you let's see good for the NFL's their business they provide the bathrooms. -- 77 a Christian you're for getting this from from that he once 76 you're forgetting that we are subordinate to the big league NFL as more enlightened then. We thus. We have no right to question our our superiors. That's kind of approach I feel like it's like you know is being crammed down your throat pay. This is what this is it does what we feel and feel like get in no suitable for you know like off Steinfeld and India and it. The Superman line right no soup for you. Ryan matter what's going on in year on WWL. Curriculum around. I'm just you know that it's all about money obviously meaning at all that that that. You know that there are the ticket situation that I'll think about it. Making sure they don't alienate that population. But at that time. The ability view. Make it clear that they've been about the met violent. Love. Our core or anything from their players or make them the money though you know it it it appears that the legislation. Nobody at all. And yet. You're right there. And that women act that he. Can't afford not to have money. And it's an NFL craze it's a football crazed state daily look at high school from the youth ball always up above the repressed professional ranks how many getting used against Dallas Cowboys San Antonio in the NBA and it's a huge Austin. I mean the yet. Big big universe get Texas there a Texas tag at Houston. And he can on the they they know how important football is to that vacuum though that state there's no way they that's why they that's like pulled this that's what they flexed their muscle at the. And there are no accountability. You know I don't know. Boehner or not because at all allow creek RD year you'll Elliot like. Talent and they hit. It shameful. I will policy if congress would. Go back at the NFL team let let's let's revisit some of the liberties we give you. Visit that's the revisit some of the tax breaks we give you are aware having the freedom. That's and the freedom the exceptions we give you an and how you operate your business and would I be willing to bet. That oh by the way a lot of these owners. We know where they stand politically a lot of them we know they stand politically. And this is this goes against a lot of what their beliefs are but because it's the NFL ended because it potentially could mean money for them. They're willing to compromise their beliefs. Cindy born at Cindy Boren on Twitter sports writer for the Washington Post Jonas announced any revenue conversation I'm sure you're familiar with a as Texas considers a bathroom billion FL is issuing a warning basis and a new suit bubbles at this is not anything new for the NFL to insert themselves a political issues. No earlier than you know they moved to Super Bowl 25 years ago from Arizona when Arizona last recognizing. Martin Luther King's birthday a national holiday. You know it's it's sort of playbook. Forward not just Ian Talbot for pro leagues. When a bill like this this past you know you've done in North Carolina. With the NBA and the all star game. You know you ensure that few statements. The same thing it's like you know reminding people about the policy of inclusiveness. And then you know it is kind of wait and see what happens and I think that's you know that's where the NFL now. What do you think the fan base. A fan base that does he did the NFL or NBA and NCAA. You know the date today. Consider. The fan base and how they might react to something like this inserting themselves in the in the what what many including myself would Dooley would be. Who would consider to be paid at that State's business. I you know I think. We saw this playing out in the being in the N com right before the final four are and what it's three years ago I can't. Coming up when Indians past the so called religious freedom act that would have allowed businesses. To recognize services based on the owners religious beliefs. And instigate people for instance especially. And so mark Cameron has hammered ever is head of the incidentally step up and then one of them you know. Really forceful statements by the and equally at this weekend. And he reminded. The state how many people are employed. By the NCAA in Indiana he reminded them how many events and there and you quickly on the bill kind of be under the law disciplines at the point at that point. The agreement. And it ended up passing in and it really watered down. State. And I don't think. The only people that work or upset about it. You know fans or upset about it in the NBA and the you know now. Weighed in on two and although the NCAA it was going out front on it. And I and you know amongst most of the fans were. We're fairly. Supportive I think of the stance. Should what we think overall mean about the NCAA the NBA and NFL he's powerful. And entities. Telling a state which laws they can or should or should not pass with withholding holding hostage a little bit. Well let you know that policy is inclusiveness and they look at it you know as. Those custom. You know these are customers that's you know they're not all businesses and they in their mind customers they don't want anyone excluded. And you know if they they feel that they're including every line. Outweighs whatever they might lose you know from people who say well I'm never going to another target in again another NCAA game again. You know I mean it's. I don't have to tell you I'm in New Orleans you know you're seeing how much money as simple altering and and it's tremendously from this amount of money and nobody wants to lose that. Cindy Boren at Sydney born on Twitter. Sportswriter for the Washington Post appreciate the visit good stuff good inside our. Eyes as she goes to follow on Twitter at Cindy Boren suddenly coming back for. Tom in gray Louisiana talk about the NFL in this. Threaten it no more suitable to Texas if they passed a bathroom bill that would require. You to follow what is on your birth certificate the sex that you are. Identified as at birth. Is it an overreach. Is a free enterprise 504260187. He text 87 eights of a double coverage here on WW. 878 cell phones or lighten up 504260187. Mean NFL. Should the insert themselves in Texas in their laws. In other states laws as to a bill that's being proposed right now in Texas. That would require. At sporting events. Or just in general that. Patrons. Use the bathroom that is identified on their burst of it to 6018 semi tech's 878. 870 48 point four by contrast it's reasonably. Argued that the NFL engages in discrimination terms head coaching hiring considerations as wells over pricing of events and related sports aspects PS cells who Baltic it's. Is effectively discriminatory to the foreign disadvantaged. Oh. They have the Rooney rule in the NFL they acquire issue. Interview minority candidates which a ball four I'm fine final with a look at look at Tony Dungy mean. There's there's a number Mike Tomlin as the number of minority. Coaches in the NFL that and it had really good success. It's far is the added disadvantage in the Correa Mena price and those are that's not who they're targeting. He really are worried about the ones that with wealth and income can afford that there are people pay. That's all to just watch the advertising dollars to watch the commercials as who their targeting. Who they want to spend a to buy their product it's all about the ones who have had the money. He you're right meaning it at a price that out. It priced out the the lower income. It is in that they know work where they can make the most money. Or it comes not gonna have some platforms in the network TV platforms to consume this game another. Other venues it's in this game so the targeting that's a lot of businesses do is the NFL's the only BA's that they want. A lot of businesses target certain demographic based on they managed revenue that that that demographic that. Income bracket can bring in. Chris now for. On two under our she's not FaceBook says there's no legislation targeting transgender people it's legislation that actually doesn't single them out lastly. They didn't want to deal with the players not kneeling. During the National Anthem because they didn't want to get involved in politics so why is it okay for them to do it now a good point Chris. I mean they stayed away from that in at a public stance on that. Will be partly because though Chris I was arguing a play devil's advocate is they're not going to. Alienated players that I can take on a player and a public light. And he might do that through back channels etc. timing gray Louisiana what's going on your on W Google Tom. Cup of water running simplify. Okay. Besides that monetary. The money that they want. There are a lot of local behind him. And I have one question. What they're up on par were. On. Put water I'd. Go so women. Were. Yeah I mean look. That the second happen that can happen regardless of put on address and I mean they're they're they're perverts Walken. All across this this country today that me if I'm just I'm just look at jargon based on what you just said. That it happened regardless whether this bill Ambien object we know I stand on the like. I don't think NFL should be involved here but early that said idol I'll count your argument with the idea that can happen regardless of the bills passed and that threat is he's legitimate. Go to the net and do you have when the have male female bathrooms are transgender bathrooms. Yeah it was going to be about back up to monitor. There ought to start put that on your drivers like the saying this is here. Transgender. Powell made it but they'd want apple about Ramadan you Perot and nobody. Thought. Laughing they're given it thought I think they're given it careful thought one side feels one way. They recognize the leverage and as I'm constantly reminded from 0698 free enterprise. I get the free enterprise. Is to give free enterprise. Doesn't mean I have to like the fact you insert yourself than politics. As a sport that I could I consume and look it's also. The result of that sport and the popularity as a result of part of my paycheck too and the last have a job and understand that too. I'm not gonna compromise my thoughts on it based on that. Frank you Metairie you're on WW LI frank. And he Hedo. You know people can't. Full time separate or music and politics is just part of life everybody has their own opinion. That they have a platform and argues. Nothing about it other than that they have. More mean advertisement money. Being spent. In these companies. Date have people all genders and races and in all kinds of backgrounds that they do not want to. That. And money does run maturing. Marketing is marked it all right before who after the law. Word that come. Why why politician who wore what tropical elect want a politician. Come local law nobody at all remember anybody. At an appropriate thing he really bad happened on this time I never heard the need to be making laws that are bringing back the middle class. Not worried about a ban and at the end of don't want to take their money and they were Americans stated there because. Some of the stuff that people weren't asking for what that's their prerogative and end and then on the show. That's a different spin frank and a and I admire yeah you comment from a different angle and it's up and I didn't think about it too. Why did and I don't know if anybody in taxes. I'm sure somebody Texas the the lawmakers there. Coming applause how how many laws in other states don't get asked for that ultimately gimme that's where years that's where your disc camps. I don't know if anybody did or did not ask for this but that's an instinct take the ad which is a ultimately should lawmakers be concerned with this more so. And he should be with other real pressing. But some one would also argue that this is pressing concern for some as well. Yet you know and our really. That probably hear people are going to. Listing children and women are. It is something that has brought out somebody. Back in March and I don't want people use the Yucatan. That you know they base that they you know I would. Nobody. In the it's something that came up with what what that means I think in the desert typical right. You know I'm not blaming your MBA you know I'm not have and they all are injured there. Because I thought our players that have been background player out there that or oboe. Parts of orient. When a blip boils down to a frank I'll be honest with the inning grand scheme of things. When I'd be crazy about it in and it all goes back to the the idea that I have kids and in the confusing part of that right however. You know explaining that however I guess. I guess I would be out on that I would be all that upset about the transgender bathrooms. As much is an act as much as I am and you in new right rightly view called my attention to pay the that the lawmakers who's asking for this. And it's a that is worth highlighting. But my real issues not about the transgender bathrooms. And what we're where they belong going to the bathroom it's about the NFL inserting themselves in Anna in a situation now know that it's always call for. You know. If I get ago mechanical and you know. I. I got employees. That may be that way. I'm not going to appear and support a state. That would discredit Michael. Clark. My portrait by our bid doesn't do business here I mean just like they take jobs to mow the architect of two I've got to realize they'll make them here. You've got a law that discriminate against smartly I don't do business. Their prerogative that the business at the end of the day it's entertainment but as a bit. Frank solid and that and here's here's why you know it is a businesses is that and I. I wholeheartedly. Agree that they have the right they have free enterprise. Doesn't mean I have to understand and as mean I have to accept the fact that they would. Ultimately. You know insert themselves could call for a 504260187. He text 878 semi double cover like. I guess I guess it's gotten to the point where. It's accepted in his than Norman should be the norm may daddy to come off my highlight thicken it. These MBA in at the NBA and NCAA in the NFL it's now. Expected that they render an opinion on. Are accepted that they render an opinion on something answered themselves on something that is. A State's right or State's laws or an agenda that they feel like they needed to tackle. I do I love the phone calls that we got this hour I'm in particular a problem frank stood out. It was one that may cause meet backed me off just a tad in terms of how I might feel and it may be clarified that it's really not about the transgender bathroom as much as it is about. The NFL on trying to jump in the the state of Texas does business in terms of how they write laws and in using that as a threat. Got a couple got several really good text messages that I got to get to them try to reply to hear. They're the top of the hour news but keep coming at 504260187. He is the NFL the right or wrong for threatening Texas. We know more symbols of legislation targeting transgender people is passed under the Texas though people would. You're required to use the bathroom that correspond to the sex on their. First if it is that the NFL's business. Is it free enterprise. How do you feel that 504260187. Giving up on Twitter act Kristian garic. Can also text me and 870 eights having time in RW dual radio FaceBook page as we'll double coverage rolls on also toggle LSU baseball next hour and plenty of plenty of plenty of other things as well. Men. Certain airline in trouble again these.