Hello everyone welcome to united way live united I Jerry Westerfield. And joining me I am very pleased to have been guest from Qaeda that's the council on alcohol and drug abuse for greater New Orleans. Ottawa come back to this show. Lindsay for those who is the director of prevention services welcome Lindsay hi Terry thanks for having us on Niger and Amanda Walker. Amanda is the director of clinical services for Qaeda welcome and thank you to Mary Fran. Well for those of you joining us what we know the parades are in full swing because it is carnival time in southeast Louisiana. And traditionally that means fund flows and frivolity. And also be Eads and often booms or more of those of alcohol or drug problems as always easy to just say no. And that can lead to a myriad of problems that can escalated to binge drinking. Perhaps an overdose and other issues. Counseling is needed. Council on alcohol and drug abuse or Qaeda has been serving our communities since 1960. One of the audit is southeast Louisiana's community impact partners or partnering agencies. He is a nonprofit community health agency that provides substance abuse prevention. Education and assessment services to individuals and families of the greater New Orleans area. And Lindsay we were just talking right before the show this become a tradition here it is it's baucus Sunday people are listening to us we all. And you already lined up along the parade route you're out Parton night before friend Andy and but folks. As you say you can have a good time let's just act like hillside was let's just be careful out there. Because it is if people. Tend to lose all inhibition don't think. Yet they do sometimes and so it's always important to keep in mind a plane and to plan to drink responsibly. Planned to have a safe. And responsible way to get home. And also pay attention to how your bathing in front of children and other people who might be watching. And and modeling that type of drinking behavior in the future. And it is it it's kind of opposite I think it's that you have feelings out. Really trying to enjoy things. You've got via charity might be out of battery other places on the North Shore all over first quarter with a little bit different crowd but but that's the way it's always been. But you'll see a guy getting down to. There are just practically next where you're standing here waiting with your family and there's at first beer bloody Mary in the morning. And then the second it seems like five minutes later and then the third before the first loads even rolled by. There should not hurt the next he'd go wow you've seen. Fist fights and everything else break out of the room. He had definitely that we tend to see when people. Over indulging during too much their emotions become heightened today might become overly aggressive or violent. Drunk people tend to not be the best at settling. Disagreements peacefully he especially if they don't know each other too with so. You know it's really important be respectful of other people's space other people's personal boundaries and to not drink to the point where your having. Arguments with your friends or strangers. And to just stay safe. And I don't you're used to be I'm sure there's still existing begun helping out its. How many ounces of alcohol. Or powder for your body weight that you can. Didn't you know take it and it before it's just stop. Are there certain things like that just you know only one beer early this have been followed by water things like that right. Yes so that I think that exact science on that is really confusing there's not 100% cancer. Still everyone should always drink responsibly and moderately. One of the things that they do say is have a drink every hour because your body will tend to metabolize about a hundred grams of alcohol per hour. But that it depends on whether or not cheer consuming other things if you're eating if you're drinking water all of those things play into it it's just always really saved it. Take your time patient self drink water eat plenty of food. And that way it doesn't it is one of the things it takes about twenty minutes for alcohol actually hit your system. So if you're slamming back drinks you don't realize how intoxicated you're getting. And some strings to her maid now where they're almost like energy deranged mind they include alcoholic thing that's wow. It be a tough one to. That is. One of the things that you don't realize is that energy drinks have caffeine. It's a caffeine is gonna naturally speed happier your body it's gonna increase your heart rate your awareness whereas alcohol is a precedent does the exact opposite. So what is happening is a lot of people don't realize how intoxicated they're getting because they don't feel that kind of slow sluggish. Perception that she get when you are drunk. And so it can create even I would think go on to psychological. Or mental problems to again. Cause you do behave that way you wouldn't normally for the fight are there are some kind of screening are. I just let's be honest have not just that's heated. Probably hung out RPM are out and yet I think you and I think it's changed a lot we hope it is but. It's not legal here may be other states but people or are doing drugs whether smoking pop at some times taking things. That are much more serious. Can be anything from cocaine to. Who knows what it and I know we've talked about it for maybe both legal weight on this because we know that heroin is making such horrible horrible acts here. What is it again here is this a fun day folks your turn to enjoy yourself the parade to the people. And while you're out there you're doing something like heroin are not a drug you heard this is this now you're guerrilla army. He did. Yeah and Amanda could speak to this but that's really it consumes most of our information referral calls on our requests for help. Regarding heroin. Addiction and need for detox I mean it's. It's become a huge problem on. It's certainly it's not very popular with the very young kids but we're seeing you know I would say people in their twenties and up. It's becoming a big problem. And it's a machine that well I don't come back to that socialist more than you do that we were just talking about today for. For a Sunday church but. It's due to deal was went to so if you have someone who is TP. Probably heroin is depressants and a downer news but threatening to DC Peter all these different kinds of drugs. And again I can Alter your behavior and vary very wildly sometimes. People don't know what to do a generic and you might have a problem routes you have to be careful. With people who would abide or who have suggested this kind of stuff. Yeah I would suggest you know utilize this support first responders who are all always along the route. If you if feud you know have a gut feeling that it's this person needs help to something's wrong. On something doesn't look right you know they look like they might beat physically ill you reach out to those first responders for help. What is the impact because we often hear that twosome moves like that just quote passed out much depending upon how much yours as head injury. Or David ingested something else taken something you think you're just taking an they could be done and you need to be sure. I know that some people I would hear that today. But it's important you could be saving lives. Absolutely so never just assumed that someone's sleeping it off for. A lot of wanna get involved I mean. If you know that feeling in the pit your stomach when you see something that doesn't look right on if someone is. Passed out because they've had too much to drink they may not be able to set themselves up on it they need to vomit on and so they choke on gas so. So you don't just simple things like that can really save lives and and it's something that we all really need to be aware of and to just trust your gut and reach out for help. Safer respond to a wonderful job in hand they'll be on high alert today along with all the different other law enforcement agencies. And sometimes you just don't think people have an opinion of auto rats and body now that they look like they're doing something mom. It's better get involved in stable life and had to stand by and possibly leaders units when his time. And that it not to be putting it downer on the parade route today but this is important stuff that people need to listen to. I was even more important is that fact that. Why do people do this is this just spontaneous because. It's the rubble we have horrible burgers sometimes point underlined. Behavior addiction nine of both of you are gone because I'm going to predict our prevention services. But also that composers once you know that yes someone dies. Had a habit of whether alcohol or drug abuse. It can be a combination it's you know what across that time to let loose and to enjoy yourself and so we do see people who. Yeah me not ever use any substances that are really drink and engage in those behaviors because it's more acceptable. To the extent that people do it can actually tell us whether or not there's a bigger problem you know if it's just. I don't really drink very often but carnivals my time to have a few and I have a few drinks and I am not my personality stays the same I'm able to. Engage with people the same way I was and that's not so much in Indy Indy. An indication of a problem we're looking at is is this person over indulging. Are they like we were discussing before they creating problems and they arguing with people being belligerent. Those are the things to look far as so whether or not it's just a this is just let let let's have fun and verses. You know I probably anti. Think you're off Iraq liberties to overdoing it a little inlet that's it's more of just I guess and then this would come under early do what you were quick to. They prevention aspect of it. High times and problems. It's okay we we we try we have a culture. Convey reality here we'd like people come behind isn't. Might have beer in the refrigerator or something stronger or why are. Some Scotch on the side something it it's there you welcome to entertain and offer cocktail. But I think the problem becomes. When people don't know who stop taking this contest it's almost like self medication. Again she's some of that. It's going to be twelve years but really since Katrina blew through. Yeah I think sometimes. These periods of revelry ten. Sort of make it easier for people who are already struggling with. With other problems may be depression and anxiety. On grieving for a loss for whatever reason. It's easier for them to slip into a heavier use pattern. When it's all around them and they've you know it's sort of encourages them but while their friend might be able to stop the might not be able to stop so. It's you know it's important to be aware of you know your loved ones which are going through. And yet be willing to talk to them about your concern if they're keeping their drinking or drug use is getting out of control. Just to show that you care and open up that dialogue with them. I you're dual prevention and hockey schools like this come back to that but what you just talked about depression. Can really take its hole. And that is dates and times. People are drinking argue that things to quote forget march try to make themselves feel happy. But that's not going to do and that's when they need really need to talk to talk to you commander under your colleagues at you and Lindsay have Qaeda. Get some help how they do that and if those are reluctant to come forward. Can parents or family or phrases are our neighbors is there a website what should be do. They can call our office at 821. Qaeda so that the 212232. They can call and make an appointment are actually they can just speak to someone over the phone to sometimes it's hard to actually come in and sit down. People feel a little bit more comfortable kind of providing the situation over the phone. So don't talk to one of our training staff who will let them know kind of what the options are. Can you comment for an appointment maybe you just here's a list of aim meetings when you try that first. So they give them a list of options. And definitely parents and family members neighbors others that are concerned can definitely call the office and get that same resource. And is that something that and I guess it was back to prevention and we hope. But on your machine that younger younger kids are getting involved in alcohol and drugs or is it. Leveled off a little trouble off a little bit and that's yeah that's great music but you know we don't need to add. Take our foot off the gas battled quite yet because when we stop paying attention to those things and stop reinforcing. Prevention messages for kids. And we start to see things slide back to where we don't want them to be. But what I will say is that kids notice. Drunk people come. Usually boom where even for very young kids they know what they can describe to me what a drunk person looks like and often times they're describing Mardi Gras experiences so. The only area that. People don't watch much doing out at the beginning they yes they noticed they're not. Yeah totally clear on everything but they know. What a drunk person looks like you know and they can describe it without meaning to say anything. And so they are watching and days you know. One day they're going to have their own. We use behavior and we don't want them to adopt an unhealthy relationship with alcohol if that's what's being reflected in the home so we wanna make sure we model responsible. Unhealthy drinking behaviors if you do choose to drink. Well how what are some of the things you do for prevention measures your school's out yeah pretty how you reaching out these young kids to weekend. They surely isn't it it's OK to have about average now and then but they're drinking responsibly. Bright so. We'd do on evidence based prevention programs in schools and in partnership with North Sea for summer camp. It's called too good and it is a universal prevention program and it basically provides. A lot of skill building goal setting decision making on coping with stress as well as that information about substances and understanding how. Substance abuse can make those skills worse and make your life harder and so. We always had to try to drive that message home and boost those skills that are associated with. Making healthy decisions and and delaying the onset of experimentation. As much as we can't because we know that. And earlier kids start using them more likely they are to have problems later in life. And we also. Talk a lot about you know normative alcohol use that they understand. That if mom or dad has a glass of wine. At a dinner that doesn't make their parent an alcoholic so we try to make sure they understand today don't get scared and think that there's a problem when really their might not be so we talk a lot of. Out and I do that is because it is a nice bounce here again there's Andrew where than and a lovely dinner at a cost of wine with it. And it. That is at the end and that's okay it's don't emulate the drunk uncle is psychology that. He might hear it isn't a true college or fringe drops Iowa. Intends to over indulge. Your kids do she dad and I have I've. Apprehended their children Europe and because they did they actually had a relatively Edward compiler very near a combined and he did drink quite a bit. The kids would see it. So I'll watch his remarkable life doing them so we don't know is he did have problems was depressed. And not prevent divorce etc. these things it factors all. More you realize because the kids they disliked so much about what he did whatever to stay out there and college are probably the only kids no college. If anyone looked up a can of beer because it. Thank you we've seen what the other side can be gotten and second that drastic draconian again is part of the culture but. When there is time to intercede again that's what we need to do right. Amid talk about some of the things that you do we know that Lindsay is out there about prevention but. Now once we have it may be the drug I'm gonna call it. Carson when you know that he or she is having these problems these before depression. Could have some it was tumultuous. In her life A divorce. You know we talk about weathering storms here we've got hurt changed it a personal storms all the time. Three loss of employment. There it is this just demeanor in everyone has their own personal story so. It's treating that individual for what he or she needs how you intervene correct. Right exactly we usually start off. Before anyone goes into any program with and assessment and that assessment can take anywhere from 45 minutes to an hour. And what they're doing is addressing all of those things that you just discussed there looking to see what how much and how often someone is using that that's not the only thing that. You know is. A marker for substance use it Leo look at whether they're experiencing depression anxiety. How is this affecting them at home how is this affecting them at work. Do they have medical conditions that are. Due to their substance use that we do that comprehensive assessments we can make. We'll call a treatment plan and treatment plant and it says okay sure that things that are going on and in your life and here's the avenues we trust them. So one of the things that we are really big Medicaid is removing the barriers to treatment so. If depression isn't there are for example we will see Bellini to those who this counselor on if that doesn't correct it maybe we need to look at what maybe some medication management and things like that. But we really want to make sure that we can treat everything else that's going around going on with the person so we can make sure that they take care of herself since he's issues and become healthy happy individual. Our audience is how I phrase it correctly. But is. Substance abuse issue also a mental health issue. Can they be one in December is it that perhaps if there's something wrong that put him. Mental health issues whereas such as depression whoever. That is that a causation for the alcohol and drug r.s that you just so tightly interwoven. That is tied to assess. It can be so tightly and over and interwoven and it's hard to assess it can be that chicken or the egg thing okay what came first like where they depressed and then they started drinking or using are aware they drinking and using and they have all these consequences now they're depressed. So it's really hard. Says pull out there to vote one of the most important things to realize is that. Everyone needs to have treatment for both. Treating just one vs treating just the other really is not going to. Create that success that you wanna see you wanna be able to handle all of those things that come with the person. In total whole personal. Just talk about hold out hope for something the whole adult I'll pray all everybody take a holistic approach to working at home and that's good that's good. Can't ask and I know it because and a nice folks who are listening please don't be afraid to go I think that's the number one thing. Number all the years ago when it was Roslyn Carter was First Lady and she made mental health which that's why ask a question about substance abuse and big student counseling. That cleese it's okay go get help there's nothing to be ashamed of but do you find that people. When you're seeking guidance or help for her substance abuse are they afraid is well or it's because they can't or won't admit they have a problem. What do you see the most. Is it is it a neighbor friend or family member tried to get them and counsel and I I've. Personally received you know just fielding calls doing information referral a lot of times it's a parent or a spouse. Or a friend or a sibling or someone like that. And this person is really distressed and and really seeking help for someone in a lot of times the person who needs help. Doesn't want or isn't ready for quite yet so it can be tricky. And we Elvis wanna make sure that these aren't concerned loved ones take care themselves too because. It can be very stressful and daunting to see someone that you care about struggling with addiction and you're not quite sure on what to do but it's also really important that even if you're distress they still call and ask for help then you know to see your vast. But ultimately it's it's up to that person to you know to follow through with treatment. On and it may take some convincing but hopefully that they will accept treatment and and be willing to. You know work program and turn their lives around. Yeah because there are so many that you got what you might ladies he's talking about just the near to the other programs that you went there to help folks who it was really. These are so important item in your medical it ever would like to go first talk about the things you're doing. Well again we have are two good program which is our evidence based universal substance abuse prevention program and that's provided. Q on students in kindergarten through high school. And we provide that in the greater New Orleans area to both public and private schools. That we've been doing that particular program since I believe 2008 so. It's you know it's a very popular program it's. People in all fifty states are using this program and schools and community satirist. We also are developing aid program for. I support group based program for maybe kids who have already been identified as. Being at risk score in risk currently so that's another thing that we're working on because a lot of times schools really like that I universal program but. They Amy have kids in mind who they think needs something a little bit more intensive. And has to stop right there how do you already know where your symptoms and are being exhibited. You know you're at risk or because they know home from which they come out so it's it could be combination of both. If they may just living in hybrid situations or facing adverse childhood experiences are aces. And where Dave maybe having. A incarcerated parent living in poverty. I'm living in drug and crime affected areas. Abuse physical sexual abuse. So those sorts of things as well as to behaviors so behaviors of concern. You know not being able to cooperate with others expressing anti social. Attitudes and things like that so. There's a lot of things that Keller on counselor social workers teachers that you know this child might. Be in need of something a little bit more intensive rather than universal. Program and and would you you know would you please go ahead what we're trying to give that telephone number or check our web address because what you just say it people. I'm sure up there right now thinking wow I I need to look up since I'm more sure after a number is 504821. C eight DEA or. 8212232. And our website is Debbie Debbie W Qaeda GNO dot org. And I guess the question would be. This just don't know what program that is that too good for drugs which it was amazing all the things you do. But is it kind of where you to a man and do you work in tandem because Alec you've had weather being used or others come in and they do have a problem. Is that you've had you've gone through the kind of didn't take your questions. And now that you found out OK how can we attacked this does that then move over. Do you think clay. Is a clinical services director. Amanda yes they usually after we've done beginning where we kind of know that course of treatment someone needs. We offer several different programs that Cano we can do a substance abuse education course switches for individuals here. They're experiencing some problems with substances that they may not be in the fools lake. C throes of addiction and they're not having very many serious problems that they've had had some consequences. To provide them with education and in coping skills on maybe how to think differently about their drinking their use as well as. You know what can I do differently and situations. So we have that program we also provide our DWY driver improvement course. Which is for anyone who's received a DWY it's a six hour exit again and researching evidence based program that we used. We're really just trying to teach people. We're not seeing you can never have a drink again we're trying to teach you how to drink responsibly and usually drink in moderation and not drive when you've been drinking. And that we think is very important and there's someone out there right now that. Maybe if you say the talk that the consequences and the expense. Nothing else immediately life. And we can cost you in the long while we're going to be 101000 dollars or more. Because of fines and fees and then now perhaps awesome employment terrorists or it's. It is still left manner again today we're trying to be Debbie downers we want you to enjoy. Your time on the perimeter you're listening to a senior nominal on the parade route. And tend to be. Up through Fat Tuesday. Please note that. Just that's key moderation everything in moderation and whether it be your consumption of beverages shall we say. But also your behavior. Too many kids are out their families it's supposed to be at time of fun and it. Let's not make it something that's going to be serious and may even require. The first responders attending to you or they haven't even hospitalization because unfortunately we know that can happen to get my. If you're just a few things ladies because I again I want everybody to know that. Qaeda is just as somebody things for you and that you could leave a failures out of their services. But. If you wanna know how Kagan helped clear one more time that website is CAD eight G en note dot pork and it's so easy to now. And folks at take away today. I think to start with you Lindsay if you don't mind it lawful Amanda. What do you want the folks who are listening today to know and take voice and words of wisdom to get them through these last few days of carnival. Yes I mean. We want everyone to have fun this is a fun time of year that everyone loves. We want to make sure that we make plans safety plans so if you do plan to drink. Have a plan to get home safely without driving. You can utilize ride sharing apps just simply on your phone on you can utilized taxis public transportation and on or a friend who actually commit to being designated driver not picking the person who easily stroke that's not a good way that's why I don't I don't work. And again and it someone is feeling ill or you're the designated driver before leaving that right here vehicle into an open. That your record on or something but didn't have any thoughts that somebody had just looks like there. I have way too much should they do. They should reach out to a first responder law enforcement EMS the amassed there all along the route they're really easy to spot. And just remember that you know to just. Be a good samaritan you know if you see something that doesn't look right if you think someone might need help on don't be a freighter to get involved to be afraid to. Get that person help if worst case scenario they're fine and never won moves along with her today but. You know. That's not the worst is here that's the best case scenario but worst case scenario is that person to tell. You consider their life in this is you know a lot of crowds we don't want anything bad to happen when ever wanna have fun and be responsible. And a man had much more to add to that. Yeah and she get angry with Lindsay ends. And we want to have finance and but it's all about being responsible and being aware of your surroundings knowing what's going lines and just. Noticing things like it that I now am I going to be drinking more. You know other things like that to his claims Fisher. And he'd water my nuns were yet so just keep you know keep aware of your surroundings notice what's going on in stay vigilant. And responsible. And that's that words from our expert I wouldn't thank you both so much for joining me. Lindsay greet those who is the director prevention services for the council on alcohol and drug abuse. For greater New Orleans and Amanda Walker who is the director of clinical services at Qaeda. Our thank you for joining us today I'm Jerry Westerfield. United way of southeast Louisiana has a blueprint for prosperity. We want to eradicate poverty in our region. We're strategically investing in programs and initiatives collaborations. And advocacy efforts to meet our communities grow recently. We've bold vision of equitable communities for all individuals. Or healthy educated and economically stable in Jefferson Orleans plaque in Saint Bernard saint Tammany. To Idaho and Washington parishes. Please check us out were at united raised Sheila dot org you can also find is that FaceBook and united waste seal up. Or on Twitter at united we seal so again I thank you Amanda I think you Lindsay and for all of tuned in today. Liz Taylor won't tone OK let's all live denied it.