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3-9 8:15am Tommy, does creationism belong in public schools?

Mar 9, 2017|

Tommy talks to Ken Miller, a Professor of Biology at Brown University, about evolution and intelligent design/creationism.

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And Miller professor biology. At Brown University mornings there aren't great. Thank you for coming I got nasty person a year at a guy that used to be the general managing here that was issues is on an island bank this island user area. Well my. A lot less like. I guess like. Spent Summers. Directly and misses the swim club that Washington should wait tables revealed. Well though it has not their own being issues is unless you you know somehow partly that and pretending to be a gentleman not the point we have a good when now murder and Tom tell me about. Creationism. Biology. The Bible. How hole. You can. Be faithful. Is in how many people man here but I'll take you calls at 260187. Imaging at you saying. To me it seems as though if you teaching creationism. As a science course. You're talent fairy tales I dad on the house saying announced on two very channel but it. Your professor of biology at brown when he thing. On the evolution. Is the framework on which modern biology is built. Appears to avert famous scientist. Who broke what article entitled. Nothing in biology makes cents. Except in the light of evolution it's a string that ties everything together ties the other genetics population biology not to mention Earth's history. Now the interesting thing. Is that the scientist who said that Russia's quoted his name with Taylor those used to say Penske. And with the Christian. Southerner is a very long tradition. Of Christians excepting science and engaging in scientific activity. As away basically to glorify god and you'd be surprised at least scientists are people play. And would say exactly that now they that the key thing about creating. Eight people and other scientists that are or I'd say that again or. Problem with who would say in fact that evolution is the centerpiece of modern biology. The the late monopoly Torre is still within the former Pope Benedict the sixteenth. Actually said that evolution appears as a true which we must see and enriches our understanding of life and be. It would ever to play about Pope Benedict where you're Catholic or not he's pretty religious guy. You know they're more. And a good bowler to did you know that. The Pope got to be good bowler and varied religions get. Chopped this he got an average under 280 forget it. That great thinker but but that is that this thing about creationism as many people. Aquae creation is so with god. Pier in other words if your product creation has that must mean that you don't believe in god. But creationism in the American context basically being concerned final knock shift of the period revolution but it means that the model of genealogy because it claims the earth is 6000 years old uses denial of astronomy. Because it says the universe. Including the galaxies that we can see through the Hubble space telescope and or eleven. Billion light years away. In fact or figure. You know problem my hands that some people when it comes to religion which had a call earlier and a gentleman said that you know vehicle look at it is being. Written by different people in different times with different translations. And it taxes contradiction with what the Bible whoever told you god created the Big Bang that's a joke. Yourself nation is based on your acceptance of Jesus. Being on the side and died for our sins it takes faith to believe in something you didn't see I don't come. From monkey in my people are still on evolving from monkeys today. That's a joke. And I just hate when you have something that's those draw people together like religion and and because they disagree with you slightly Ellis because they disagree with you. On something like this their suddenly judging in meeting its that are. Candidate for somebody that dumb it believes in creationism. How would you how do you go about explaining. Scientifically this he couldn't have happened that way or do you. Our Arctic poets were explaining in and the way I would put it this way as a hypocrite delectable Roman Catholic. I would say the first duty. Any Christian is to the true. We speak the truth themselves which we think of the true Jesus single quest to anybody first question about evolution shouldn't be. Does it contradict how light read the book of Genesis does it contradict the references Adam. In the letter support things like that your first question should be is it true and the answer it. Pro. Every field of science is overwhelmingly laughs yeah. And what I mean by that basically. What my former student wants when I was testified in a very famous trial. On evolution and intelligent at all in Pennsylvania. Printed bumper stickers and distributed them around court justice to choke in the bumper stickers that. We have the fossils. We we have. And what he meant by that he is we have. And would have been possible to work from when he wrote fortunes species we have now an expensive fossil record the fossil record shows. Innumerable transition for traditional forms of children like to change over one and it shows. That we will sapiens it would be like every other species are. At the at the president tip of an evolutionary tree in other words. We had ancestors just like every other organism on this planet. And that conclusion. Is Rabat the supported by science across to the pew foundation survey. Members of the American association for the events besides that the organization. To which virtually all working scientists in the United States won't. And they found that during BP per cent of those scientists in the United States. Support it or accept that better way to put it to your removable. So basically you have a 41. Split of scientific opinion among the general public in many states of culture of 5050 but the scientific community. Believer believer like is united that this is exactly what I'm incensed. And our schools today it's very important. That we did. Our our children in competition. With every other industrialized country in the world we get the best possible education the worst we'd do. Is to cast doubt on the process. In the community it's fun in itself and that's what attempts to undermine the teaching of evolution or for that matter even quantify. It or schools would do which is basically tells students you can't trust it's it's it's a sign that the be skeptical you could record with a company that would be disastrous message for our country. And that's what worries me when this is taught in school because what you're doing is. A matter of fact you you'd yet you know we don't have to have faith in science is right because I can't do what you do doctor on hand to brains cords so. I depend on you I depend on chemists that depend on engineers I put my faith in them across a bridge to take a medicine what have you. Not at the same time. I put it upon got. Actually a little different for people have faith in it as the front disagreeable sort. In fact. Might be. We have some of the arguments were voicestream Louisiana's. Review its curriculum. It people said can't we debate evolution can we be skeptical about it well. That ball. We should take with a degree of skepticism because skepticism is the pride that you would you ever think everything is subject to disprove. But there's no reason. To pretend. But it all the science we teach only one field needs skepticism that evolution and work absolutely sure that everything else I would experimental cell biologist. Why wouldn't tell any. That we go everything about the with the fact I think we know most of the things for a lot with a belt which is what keeps me and other people in business as we searchers. So healthy skepticism is exactly what is needed is studying everything inside but he's a personal recently evolution deserves special step to. But you wouldn't. Skeptically look at a table of the elements wouldn't you would you you wouldn't. I'd necessarily be skeptical because. The construction of the Adam what have you would you. Your nature skepticism. If I was back in middle school and learning about the periodic table the only. I think what that circle what's the opposite from that Halloween. And any good teacher should be able site well election campus. Mentally it noticeable. In the way different elements. And eventually we realized. The those similar. Reflected the range of electrons around the and a good teacher would be able to exploit that and skepticism would be rewarded in the sense that the student would just say OK that's what parts of I believe it. Student would say aha now I understand how science works. And I think that's the element that the that the essence of good education. And we're back to the Russians just getting up. Can have a great day. Thank you very much a always a pleasure be sure you governor thank god Ken Miller professor of biology at Brown University.