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3/9/17 9:10pm Double Coverage Would you trade Brandin Cooks for Malcolm Butler straight up?

Mar 10, 2017|

Scott Shanle at 9:10, and Lance Moore at 9:30. How do you think the Black and Gold faired on Day 1 of Free Agency?

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People who were on the year everybody thinks that'd be re guys he began eyes were like we are on the air we just to talk to everybody all the time little tired of talking for hours and hours and we went home acts. Can be you can become a bit of a recluse V you're not careful ice let's get into this saints free agency underway well underway in the NFL. We'll recap some of the big moves around the National Football League is well but. Mayo focused on the saints and what they've bought and today. In free agency linebacker AJ Klein by receiver Ted Ginn junior office a lineman Larry Wofford and also brought back nick fairly we dissected a couple of these moves. When I have Scott Shanle coming here about six minutes here's his take the wheel when you're a final four to 601870 tech's 8787 on Twitter. As well I sat down up act crushing Garrick in. An act keep you know look at this woman. The one that. I'm I guess if if we're asking are the best one the one that we we we like the most may be the most head scratching one would probably be take Ginn junior because. Where do you fit in the offense it division is for him to helping the return game I wanna see the numbers as as to what the end up paying for what could be guide which is gonna help you BB fifty snaps on offense put. Get a handful of snaps in the return game as as a returner kick return he's 31 years old has never had more than. 56 catches or a hundred yards. In a season and he's kind of a journey man owns makes you think why hasn't been able to stick around with one team there's been some off the field stuff with him. He's kind of the same type of players coach not that level right like he's he's got the burning speed. But he's not even have the hands against abrupt drop issues and his greatest have a hand the cook has. It's also doesn't have the ability to he would think that there wouldn't be this way with the speed didn't have the explosive. Yardage after kept stats do you think you know his speed does it. Man I kind of disagree I kind of like this guy I don't agree overpaid form they needed a returner I think it feels that number three number four hole you have at receiver especially if you're going to trade brand and goats were I'm on board with we talked about an hour oneself. I would think if I just talked about a head stretcher so easy for me do I just don't know where he visits in right now I guess. I guess they're banking on where they follow him into writes it. This icy or fits and a lot of these I guess you're right I guess if he's the right it. For what they need I figured it would on after a proven guy or maybe younger guy with a lot more upside who's just done it more on the field and client I guess you have that optimism that he played behind those great linebackers a Carolina. And he got some good playing time towards him the last season win people he was hurt but a man and I'm just almond wait and see mood on music line. 87 forces traffic is backed up stop near the superdome on rebound expressway heading towards. The CCC don't know exactly what's going on we're trying to get some help there as with the with the traps and all his. Out there on the expressway. Iso going back in and talk about the idea that the proposed trade the saints are working on a trade with the New England Patriots. Hang appears that's. One compensation in two. Malcolm Butler had is a restricted free agent he hasn't signed his restricted free agent tender. We don't know Tammy who want to long term contract. Who has to work out that long term contract is it. The saints nature before a deal to be consummated I believed they can't even treat him until he actually signs that yes assigns his his restricted free agent tender McKee in other words that's. That's the precursor if he signs that they and they can do a sign and trade or aiding betrayed him with the with the notion and with the agreement from Malcolm butler's camp that they are aged in his signing. A long term contract as the saint of its risky just get a player for one year. And you shipped off. Branko looks you get a draft pick with innocently helps your cause when in particular you're looking at quarterbacks. That's the next shoe to drop in terms not saying a trade for Malcolm Butler but I think. That position wise it's corner where that a veteran value free agent guy or whether it's to a tree. Alan Henderson on Twitter hit me up in response to this question that we toes he says Malcolm butler's good but the pats also have a pass rush. But is not gonna help with the saints cannot fix that problem and I kind of went back animus that well if you actually look last year. The patriots. It did not have a asterisk that was there one glaring hole heading into the Super Bowl opportunistic better defensive personnel with Alan pointed out on Twitter as well but pasricha ultimately have itself. I I you legitimately think Malcolm Butler is a top fifteen top ten guy he plays big in big moments everybody remembers the super double play a couple years ago. But he's locked down that number one spot for. Four New England since Aqib Talib left he's been a great player and he would be the instant number why even over Dolan bro I believe the instant number one quarterback here in New Orleans if they were plop the trade. Forehand the one thing I'm hesitant about as well with this Christian. Is that I don't want a rent a player here if they are gonna trade for Malcolm Butler in and out be over the moon if they were able to get this deal done with a caveat. I want him to be signed to an extension I want him to be signed for more than just that rookie are at freeagent them the tender. But they wouldn't have to restrict free agent and there that offer him I don't wanna swap two years or cooked for one year Malcolm Butler. Yes and look. Part of this is apparently the titans animated inching and a standing offer. On the table for the dual currencies is it that fifth overall selection I'm not a saint scale options right now Scott Shanle pharmacies linebacker coming back here on double covered and the bill. And if he's alive excuse me. Let 2006 offseason book about double coverage is not the Parra FaceBook chat said the Christian 2006 offseason. One which the saints acquired their first free agent signing was a dining Scott Shane has Scott Fujita. All right before they sign breezy side breeze the next day later on that offseason and actually training camp before pre season they traded for and got. Scott Shanle and today I think going back to when they signed Scott Fujita and acquired Scott Shanle I'm sure saints fans. Were reacting a little like they have today with the did the addition of a decline like who who are these you know who are these players they'd throw them Scott Shanle Fujita. Prove to be pretty valuable signings. Acquisitions at least. For the New Orleans Saints and maybe decline can do that joining us now is. Said Scott Shanle at Scott Shanle onto reformists and linebackers Super Bowl champion Scott Howard and you dig free agency on. It gets crazy though is it's great expert the first day. Everybody from running around the guys both of effort statements are right it at the opening bet by. So a guy that I'm sure your pretty familiar with AJ Klein a linebacker from the Carolina Panthers now and in the world it's a beautiful three year deal. And over half of the money is guaranteed so it shows you Scott how much they think of a decline what do you think of them. What they want when you are back on track like he's that star quality that's not a got a commitment and be adept at a guy like special teams. That starter money. You know honestly I haven't even upload these played in the liberal split behind required equally. Are about the palace news director with as well. On but I thought that appear quite a while ago he could be a charter sixty games I'm sure it's watched. About build a party in the played in the limited time we had become starters like get. For me mr. Castro but but let me now watching you know the equipment. What about just the guys they signed today in general scads of some good its value signings maybe not the huge big splash to some of the other teams with lots of cap space. Made bit the hand I'm like what they did today. The what you look. Obviously it was one of their own pretty epic collected in and the people of lesser evil lot opposite way again you'd want to retain the right price I think that. I think right right cavity or what you look for pretty soon on the target you at play here team. Which meant more to stop the bad positions overspent on guys and get anymore but I think when you look at that early contract and what they gave electric it was better for the production last year for its production of. Pay now Scott Shanle at Scott Shanle on Twitter former saint linebacker and Super Bowl champion. We want to weigh in Scott on this on these reports these rumors about burning coaxed into being dealt to the New England Patriots. Does it does seem more more likely that if you the saints you're still asking for high. First round draft pick your not gonna settled a silly for a 32 overall pick or Malcolm while Laura would you trade that would you mcgetrick. You know they can. And it in the op. And every respect his speed on the field I think he's perfect for them right up your mind whatever that person in the role players. But to me. The patriots threw about Butler gave reasonably packed epic epic that tree are the Arctic brands in the world guys do. He's got a one dimensional because you can pick up off the defense and that's what got again. News to maybe they'll all. Look at it in the poppy can't do and I do. Maybe they're right oval when he start to play a little bit but not in the ball. And a whopping that the record is not the record straight is the panel Pacman well he's being quote contract tribunal big money. And I just think at a player like Malcolm Butler that the defense. Have been Specter I think you need to Unionist argument that. You can you can become the lead defense and I epic that trade if there's that opportunity presented itself. Scott Shanle sort and sweet as Scott Shanle on Twitter always fun talking to the former saints linebacker and Super Bowl champion thanks Scott. Partners and back to the phones we go Gregory up down what's going on and you on W him well Gregory. Outfitted paternity dispute it appear on I look at it now pollute the part of some put it. Out of the demo loyalty to achieve to prop up money. Appreciate you couldn't pick but but do you really think it would be great bringing culture and it in a statement very very big draft physical or. Net. And that'll. It at all. Did a bright today and created a. I'm happy. I didn't. And it is anybody's mind I was. Three players including in one of their own nick fairly back with a black eagle how their contract. Wide receiver talent or. I opted to go out there about OK now well on our. Larry wolf for the offense alignment from Detroit. Wide receiver Ginn junior and also linebacker AJ Klein. Yeah not bad helmets cellular and everybody out there listening and you probably were working weren't able to dislike a lot of people out there. For sure gonna tell you the best way to get our updates decreasing gives out all the time. Text 87870. Right now you just punch that number an 87870. 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But you I don't know who the saints just sign I had to do is sex sort sports state seventies blowing up and I'm glad everybody's we can see everybody signs up in real time and the argument that it. I'm Richard sports updates at 8787 to extort sports and also back to your phone calls. Also a former saints line about our skewed forcing slot receiver Lance Moore jumping in here a few almost all double coverage here on W of if you breaking down the saints. First day of free agency. ICG numero Robert Greta Lee in saint rose to your phone calls welcome back double coverage. Seth and Christian Bachmann now Lance Moore former saints wide receiver also. Super Bowl champion on Twitter that Lance Moore sixteen and my attorney Cuba over the saints in terms of free agency what do you like of the moves so far. Well I honestly. I'd definitely like them recited nick apparently. I think you know you talk Martina had a much except that it the past you know. Longevity of that chomping at green arrow office. Inking though. Really important really good player on these and that it is. Something that's been need prologue time like that move. There were offered we got Utley with the Detroit. Out physical offensive lineman. That India younger upgrade. You know committed to stagnated. Also like you know. In August with what we've been hearing Brent crude I like that against me that might mean a lot. You know Devery Henderson and it yeah years mean applied on the other make plays and you know I think to go to typical for. Do you think that Bernie coax in and Teddy Ginn junior can coexist in this offense can he play mean in other words you can could could see both them being on through the same time if they don't drink cokes. What would mean we had. Robert Meachem Devery Henderson notes that are at so I mean I think doesn't mean that you got the similar so it's a that the vote to about the you know you look at different ebitda they have a lot of guys that wanna force the ball and then make it known that they want a constable. You know that kind of a bit different than what we get on OPEC then you know got that one and everybody. To have. Keep in the office and you know that we use at the success will be the whole offense looked predicated on each and every time they can put whatever is novel called on the not necessarily worried about them be called by. Payment you know he did back in the building of maybe get them out. Title Lance Moore at Lance Moore sixteen on Twitter former saints wide or see your hand Super Bowl champ Lance. How important was that deep threats. It's getting you open in the slot position the other guys open and that receiving games are pretty important and John schemer Matt. Absolutely I mean if you have guys that can take the top off the coverage and make things for the the guys underneath. A lot easier you know that on the state he's out there or quarter depending on what defense that their claim that. You know you get rid of those guys you kind of have to deal with the underneath coverage let it be their linebackers are the public defenders. I'm a different picture up all you do there. As as an asset it's easier to find than maybe. A slot guy like you were in this speed that that top taker off. Get this kind of difficult time. You know that the right guy free agents are coming out of the trap at the right time. You know and then on the you're able to win those guys appear here. In deposition hope you put them I'm on the field at the right time and can be able to scheme around their skills that. What's what's your thoughts on the entire freezing class that it three signings one resigning and a retooling there a difference will be produced. Jazz in here what are your thoughts. I agree I agree for sure you know like Betsy you if you have guys that are you know playing well for you always makes sense to me that you reward them right. You know you know talk about that early signing. You know market that the defense you'd be made a premium. Not not appropriated Hebert but in the draft as well you know obviously the you know go like what allowed all on the opposite side and you know there's there's an opportunity to get some of those really good people of players and there are you know got out ambulance sure. You work with Curtis Johnson he as the receivers coach when you were here in New Orleans and now he's back in the mix after go to Chicago for one year than previously. At Tulane but as a young wide receivers who very talented though with the additions that they had Alaska we your brand coax Michael Thomas will least need now taken junior also. A branding Coleman who's gonna benefit the most T think. From C jays to which. All of the op apartment and call. I was around with what goes on Morton. A little bit you know and by your years since he had but that stand. But enough fuel petticoat she was but the day. Nine talk about the ultimate vote innovator and Natalie note the accidental but no out again. He's the absolute best out of all this guy. You know there's not going to be very many dull moment does not going to be very minimal to the guy at trying to chip hang out. I mean you know we were active you know whether it was during the game or their practice. You know extended even to be on the field off of the guys would be throwing the ball on the are holding the ball on the it just just at repetition. So nobody maybe. Some guys may be a little bit hesitant to break it coaching. But I think what they do they'll realize that he's there to get those guys better get the most out of them and I'd definitely be group will be. Even better this year the nation election. Nice work Lance Moore at Lance Moore sixteen former state wide receiver and Super Bowl champion by the way Lance glad you decided not to play down for those dirty birds. That just outrageous thing look situation there. He had Glenn Selig and glad to see do well thanks. Yeah are you as Lance Moore. Come back for Jeanne Oro Robert Gregg a lead in saint rose but actually to what they were here right now and when you roll. So let's get to these phone calls Jeanne immoral what's going on your W. And hello Jean I did not know what I'm not on now I miss you. If you do an optimistic about what happened to oil. He moved onto another endeavor. But we got we got mom and set that'll happen here's well who's just has many zany not quite using ST by. It's not my call on the hot at the lamp not it's crazies you know uses flat out saying all will go out and then rouge. Yeah I think you'll be that. Any out. On him so I had a tank from players. I. Make it to you. Are we are excited right Jeanne how can you not be excited about that's all we just told plants and ask plants were all excited about this last is parade day I'm as excited today. About these signings as I have been for a single day of saints free agency. Most of I've been here Sosa yes I've been liking Kuo back to the excitement of Gerris bird that just didn't work out Ellis. That was awful but it was a lot of excitement when I signed him and this is why I think it is that you approach is right. For the sick you know why I wasn't excited about that deal because they had to mortgage the future for that sent they had to restructure so much the you know. As soon as they signed bird to that deal they are gonna have major cap problems in the near future and they did thanks a full causing keep. Keep ruin the will be a stranger Robert Greta what's going on your on W. Robert failure. That got our our our. Army or that he's he's. They are. Well and there's. A lot. You borrow a couple of they. Get. Each. Year in order. And it. We'll have that opportunity yet to earn. In a spot on this roster of it's got crowd it would take in June it's basically a bigger version a more proven version. That and wide receiver and return guys in timing of those and Robert aren't you even though your big timely Louis van as I think we are a watching the saints are you excited about Ted Ginn and forget what he does of the receiver position. This guy is one of the best returners in the league. And again here is hurting right. You know our operator object like yeah that's. The right there. I mean if you can't go. Like you. Like it. There it. You're not hold onto people unite those roster spots are two company you're not gonna just keep a guy around just to be equally he's got to deal contribute in some way shape or form. Whether it's on offense on special teams and I'm here at tea time Lewis is way on this roster again next year. Is gonna have to be doing something on special teams he's gonna have to beat out Ted Ginn junior. In order b.'s return you know what else who else have on EU us and as if I'm Marcus Murphy right now I'm nervous. Because they decided guided its gonna compete would meet and he you've had a rough time as a return guys so I would say this move today from day Ted Ginn junior signing with an oral saints put two people on notice that's Tommy Lee Lewis and also. Marcus of those roster sponsors is so valuable in the NFL when you only have 53. Yes and only a 45 there's enough on game day so it is there is still valid and valuable to keep the guy around it's not gonna contribute on special teams and anyway. Lee in saint rose let's go face of fault call Robert. He going to be to really. You know I ordered to undergo. Surgery. And oh keep it real as losers and they. It. And he did does but he didn't. The Leo that's what he did to me I was trying to get him to have a hot take a value of this that is classless today and again a mom always ends the year. What's good and then I'll. I'll bring the country to grow. Point this small but there aren't that you know may. They. Might get a little accuse. Drop the ball screen spotlight ever. It. People. Given his yards his yak yards or not his Forte I mean he's he's just a perennial deep guy you know undermines him honestly. Is a souped up version of Robert Meachem means seeing Cowell always he'd run double moves and get behind the defense as you'll always going to be asked did an occasional reverse. Bounce to see him magical role either and I'm not that they wanna get him in space they wanna get in the space behind the secondary. But for those who haven't watched a lot of Ted Ginn junior he can do that he can he can take the top off the defense is like on hand for guys in the league can do so. Even though I Christians and I don't have a lot of yet not gonna contribute a ton as far as rock catches go throughout the season like this like this in the passing game and the return. Texted 259 forces agree kick return puts the defense back on the field quick there lies a huge issue not begin point if you didn't. Great field position if you're flip in the field in particular even though it as the only were report in points. Analyst and I'll logic from 2594. Steadily come back and Hakan basing those frank chemicals may. And you to a 504260187. The saints' best move from day one as nick fairly wide receiver Ted Ginn junior linebacker AJ Klein. Or office alignment Larry war for here on double coverage sent a Christian on DaVita duo. Rock general on double coverage welcome back another hour ago Josh cats and steam next article not common at times Picayune he covered. Larry Wofford won the seats free agent signings today at their Detroit when he was. A working member of the media up there and now users from inside on him but your phone calls or old are welcome a final four to 601878. Frankel calls and what's going on you're on W of the wealth. I was. So it matters as. Our group has real war to see he. Expect it to that person. Our actions. I think saint get a job today. We agency although I'm not consume the last thing. You know. It was was pretty important and do they go to public needs unit trust pockets or. Some linebacker. I got to question. And as Malcolm trainers and why is actually at my gut feeling that I think that's probably. And maybe we'll get him out something grown in the mix or. At that point that we had grass. That need it back. I'm looking at the trapped here now. You know like seven. Or ten picks probably going to be expensive so I do believe that same note you know how much. We know that you. Don't move up. To do it got you what do you think at that point sitting outlet in two weeks actives. Something government ought to really go after. Any particular player or think we you know we spent. We are trying to let the pieces all place how then. On the saints' top packet to move up that's the history that they've shown they differ branding coaxing differ Sedrick Ellis they've done a number of other times. In in the draft and trading up so I think if they do get an extra pick and they like a defensive player that's in there eight or nine. And one point AM AB may be calling in you move up he's gonna get a yeah yeah we get ahead of the Carolina Panthers. They're they're not gonna make it all the way up to one now that which and to me I don't know by one move up if that's the case then you've got obviously a superstar in the making epic semi one. Your abet them not I don't I don't know I don't think you should. I don't think you're trading away multiple picks to move up two or three spot and I don't think you should or will they Christian Iran to point out this has been their history they do this. I just wouldn't do that this year seem like they're taking this off different approach this offseason the may have an ad that is it's not a different approach it's. It's an approach that has. Proved successful for them in the past well and away from that at times yeah that's where they got themselves shall correct I should say different than the past handful of years and may have gone after those big splash signing seems like they're getting back to what they did. Remiss in a priest of frank any announcement. The actress and Leo and amazed to say about them now. He picked up that Tennessee out next couple days or is that just you know immediate speculation. Are. I think at this point it's it's a little more speculation than it is in the kind of substance I think that there are some possibilities with a at the can happen. I had information basically that tells me I haven't seen enough on enough. Good information tells me that it's imminent at this point time and I think that if the patriots come up with a with a better offer war. They get Malcolm brown on Malcolm Butler to sign his restricted free agent tender and then subsequently sign. A long term extension that might. Speed up the processing getting a deal done as of right now. I think we're a ways away from having that happen but in the National Football League when it comes to contracts and it comes trades. Mean those things can happen that quickly so to answer the question right now I don't have enough information Tellme is to lead me to believe that the deal is imminent at this point. Thanks a full golf frank Hague in bay saint Louis arena will hold over taking basic it was a horrible but it's o'clock or else I just can't distinctive and. Yeah we got a text and from 080 threes in excited not this is about again I'll tell you now. And he doesn't fit he can't catch the ball this that was all everything coming out of high school and college. But he Los out of a job because basically text goes on to basically say again that he can't catch he was drafted he was I agreed that's where the Palestinians Cameron. His first year in in with a Miami Dolphins drafted him ninth overall when he wasn't expecting go anywhere near that at the bottom row one he's expected and that's why they ants the first couple years people thought that he was the bus and went to San Francisco kind of rebuild his career repealed that there with Carolina as well. And he's asked to do different things now he's not asked to be the number one receiver he's asked to be that number three or four guy that can go vertical take the top off the defense is and he's asked to be an exceptional. Kick returner and that's exactly what he's done this outing and I know that there are a lot of saints fans out there and it's in Carolina though gallery of this guy. Italy Billy likes that it in we gonna like him a bigger load alike in the next year to year in New Orleans. They return game think big plays in the return game. We talk about taking engineer and occasional. Appear to 215 or twenty snaps as a as a wide receiver. Double coverage rolls on icy hanky Italy off next hour also just cats ST from the no on Telecom and times Picayune next jungle covered.