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3/13/17 9:10pm Double Coverage What grade to you give the Saints offseason so far?

Mar 14, 2017|

The Saints were busy the first week of free agency with multiple big signings and the huge trade of Brandin Cooks. We’ll grade the deals with Pro Football Focus!

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We do you ever I think I think he knew the system well went shopping goes weaken. Nurse and not might Shelly and Urban Meyer like come down here. That Ella sport I ever. Would bring it straight I'm cool with that. If we wanted to trade back in Vietnam unity you're number one Butler. That I'm quote that. However we get you in the first round. I knew now what part part control. Of them now this school north matches at five but I'm always. I'll say soon so ignorant as your Ohio State thing you don't want any news miscue wolverines an op. And that. These are seeing that. But as CA. You know I wanna like John Ross down here either I got my obvious you cougar love on his Illinois Huskies. Yelled at a lot cook but what but the money. I don't feel they're gonna Pam actually target 1012 year next year in New England so. It'll rain or more than attending their contract. Eat eat and and look at that is not good on on grass so what we'll look at that later on. 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I think that people in I hope that you can differentiate between their college program in in terms of wanting and accepting a rival from college. For example a husky on the Seattle Seahawks would be your by ethnic it. Yeah I bankers and Alabama Crimson Tide member would be fine on the saints' roster they are well look I look I love a little longer Donaldson Rana husky. I want to come back but it would have been that's that's 80 yeah. But come on Mac Chandler brought up that the mock drafts and he teased without the hour here. And they'll not come as distant and Jeremiah yet as a mock drafts. So and eleven for the saints he has Christian McCaffery back that's it for now understand this town like hot days is hot take of the NFL draft mock drafts. So it's it's a big deal being. Draft is not solely based on need our. It's about it and to leap of faith as. Christian McCaffery at 1132. Is seen taking a quarterback it's meant to troop too risky. And even see. OK first off. You got that Iran and all these drafts right now are about clinics. Please debates and you know what the nfl.com and their producers did they probably said elbow Daniel your minds that you know all the saints now all the saints fans been looking at the mock draft they have X depicts. So money go on to shake it up in a mock draft that you know this week so he's gonna put. At least put McCaffery eleven here and guarantee by drafted there's 00. Chance that in these mock drafts are going to have Christine McCaffrey going eleven census. Hogg if. He did if they do mean things that they it is at this out please at 1132 that he too often the players. Since there's going to be ready and we thirst for blur a meltdown. That that they'll be lined up on the CCC got a great for us we'll have phone lines jam packed liquid hot fresh it. Opening and they had it will be good in terms of the season exit the eagle offense in both those selections. Now I expected at some point I'll be OK with at 32. They draft and offered to players. Yes. It's probably good defense but you can make an argument we're talking about the softener. For McCaffrey of 32 not that I would pick him but I think there's arguments he made that he is valued there but no it. Is a we are debating we were debating this a couple of weeks ago if or nets there at eleven sedate taken. McAfee is there and they pass a bottle shed one tear I certainly come back. Which advice and wanna invite you to join us on our FaceBook live chat also. Will dive into the bracket Seth and I allow breakdown our practice to fill my life here on double coverage to redeployment from the aka I sets gonna get out the brackets here. First with a squeeze in Wayne and cannot. Donna calls and camp rock tonight what's going on Debbie did well. I can do that commitment. And it would they called Bobble there the last five years thing. Both probable and top spot and that their government what is export Linspire. And I. Don't dip. And spewed at the foot. And Asia it. Is. An. Let's just a mock draft me it's not Sean Payton saying that or Mickey Loomis had to speak. And that's the didn't need deep as man I'm super six yeah. Yet these are things. Wayne gets this what's so frustrating when he assesses. We've heard the same narrative and the saints offense the last three years so why haven't they been able to just. I know that the board doesn't always fall the way you want but they spent an inordinate amount the last couple years let's Siegel a backlash of celebrations in the first round pick. The before I step on Anthony who the pick in the in in the first round the year was twenty of clinical. My point is they spent a lot more picks on defense the last couple years than they had on offense. And you're still seeing the same needs crop up for this team that's why expression that's why. Ultimately the saints going the other way in the first two picks in the first round fans are gonna be livid over they're gonna be in Tyler. You're saying if Leo and Estonia as it needs especially via but this community and you give this player for a IC did jump brackets yeah I'm gonna go yeah go ahead I'm gonna go region about where's yours if you heard a secure region by region with starts. In that east region top left of the bracket we'll do this throughout the show we're not an overload you here. I don't wanna go through each game that's going to be too tough so who are you or with a sweet sixteen teams. Coming out of this that's where low. You I think I think as successful program in. The NCAA tournament I judge success by march us unit by sweet sixteens. Right not just making it here but can you make the sweet sixteen on a regular basis I think it is a hugely successful season if you make the sweet sixteen that's kind of a crapshoot after that. Because really specially this year there's like legitimately eight or nine teams that can win this opening it's not like the past half decade when you've had. Duke. Like one year you had North Carolina. Another year you have a couple of years he had Kentucky and I kind of runaway favorite not like that this year but anyways what you're sweet sixteen these assets in his numbers racquet from me. And you can attempt got a funny answered announces. Yeah 01 we start with. I agree says the sweet sixteen appearances like that's that's usually the measuring stick for free college basketball program that it to the pre successful they've not gotten that far however. For program like LSU they were dispute that it gives atonement and the it's worth celebrating and of itself euros and determine their plane playing gaming it's bouncing there tomorrow 530 yeah and will break down a matchup tomorrow on the show but. So Villanova would play the winner of mount Saint Mary's or you know I have nova going on to this sweet sixteen along with Florida. Baylor and duke. I have three of the four I do not have for their Virginia everybody always sleeps. On Tony Bennett and the Virginia Cavaliers team last year the people thought that when the whole thing. The kind of fizzled out but this year under the radar don't score a lot but they have the nation's best defense like they do every year that is a tough. Matchup the second day. When you have those tired legs they're gonna win that first game against UNC willing Bloomington and I think they'll give Florida again because of the second day there. In Orlando give him Virginian nova Baylor duke. In the sweet sixteen and it going back I have almost skip I do coming out of his racquet a kind of spoiled and on our FaceBook live. But it's there in national champs nova tough bracket they get duke who's the hottest team in the country coming into this tournament. Winning the ACC tournament this is the most talented team. Finally they put four scores on the Florida time that nobody in this country not Virginia. Not in zag or maybe the two best defensive teams in this country right now along with West Virginia now gimme duke coming out of his racquet no but does not repeat. All right see you a sneak peek as to assess in the eighth let's go to Tim for the sweet sixteen on that a couple of it court. First off on LC du getting out the intimacy six and heading South Carolina plane in Greensboro which is really close to them and also having frank Martin's or attempts is going to be big key factors for them getting passed you in the second round. I also have a Villanova advancing Baylor and I have Florida so I affable and of getting to the final four out of this practice. I'm cool with that a final four pixel right now suite casino. The east bracket we tell laid that out. And what's the doubtless some doubt the west. Without woods talked about Gonzaga. And sets a big inside guys 32 and one the number one seed and those close by the it was close and you say like everybody else but it's. And Zach legs yeah exactly zigzag in that got so I say iso Ginn zag it's he wouldn't be correct here with speaking of harmony. You really like him on aaron's you know its grip chopper two is he wouldn't say New Orleans rates and or address as the day it doesn't acres and that hate the ones that also goes the opposite of angle. New audience does not the audience. Under Canada's yeah. On the backs and there. Right so in the west got Gonzaga West Virginia Xavier in our zone. I've got luck I've got almost the same as well. Can Zach is going to make the the sweet sixteen here there's just not a team and a quarter Ragheb has the chance of beating them. And zag is there with the best. Of the best defense but certainly the most. Exciting defense to watch this entire season is West Virginia people calling press Virginia that's Bob Huggins is team. They press full court the entire game. A force more turnovers than any team I think in the last decade and in the NCAA tournament. They are going to be eight. Handful for anybody to beat I have them advancing by Notre Dame although some view were playing Notre Dame has the offense that ball control due to handle that but I got in dagger. West Virginia Arizona is gonna come out of the bottom half of that bracket and I had facing marriage be inching West Coast matchup there. In no mood on the last and I'm just gonna go shock. Whenever you have a debate in your mind you don't know who to pick here in this in the second round or sweet sixteen matchup is coach hot commodity that year. And go Florida State the three seed. Advances on its loss lax area chocolates full bracket wanted to report see my name is Boston so far as Florida Gulf Coast and tell us the before state. Now here's flustered I mean don't be huge everybody remembers for Islamic community college that way you understand it's a Florida Gulf Coast argument for at least those community. Well know by now. I don't think they have. In Iraq not to be wrong but the limit to run three years ago two years ago via or that I was it was in the what was called. Don't sit lob city lob city months ago we got him. Ever again zag I have Notre Dame coming out of the south of Florida State and Arizona that are dance the topic seed Tim Tim nose and keeps up programs out there. IR CBS news update back to your phone calls continue breaking down our brackets as well double coverage rolls on here you went up into 6018 Seve taxed 870. 87. I welcome back double coverage you can. That I live interactive brackets up right. Among we don't yet know we've got those out will have what we're gonna do later this week all of our sports talents Deke Bobby do Steve you meet salmon mark Menard. Offer my brackets are gonna have those upon ten minutes IDS to submit your brackets we get him up there you can jump as well a final four teams and so whites and give us your biggest upset. For those a tournament to lose those junkies give us your biggest bracket buster. We've already filled ours out to try to steal from the switch it around though and also who's gonna isn't it at all we have go to a final four. 5042601870. Text 8787 or squeezing Gregory uptown you on DaVita vote where. A decade or is it on. Look at the war. In Butte but I'll I'll liken it I mean I'm I'm Mike can. And Rhode Island being. On off on the could mean will bite you talk about the west just now way I don't know to talk about it yeah I'll credit that. Way to it's what we went to and from the east the west we're the world get a good broad political what we're doing is looking at the quarter brackets here apparently. I powered in this to make it easier to fall on what you're saying is it was October up and it is. It out. For the united we're trying to do quarter brackets here is that you know we can't do game might be too much. Big game. And beat it beat you that they. We'll look at Rhode Island is actually it's trendy upset that you're the plea Creighton. And and no. Gary. About that carry key word before we can. Well here here's your book there on the corner racket ball the teams will the higher seeded missing their best players are some of the wrestlers Creighton. And Oregon three seed they're so there was going to be eleven seed maker run. He got nailed it nailed it Rhode Island over there in the midwest region playing in Sacramento. Rhode Island to Gregory takes a phone call it Q as of the date on your brackets Josh. A useless to it's at you have underscored Josh NFL annals of football focus a company that right just. These are dead weight on tonight. Good good Rubin thanks for joining us and look. Big fans of all of the work you guys do approval ball focus. Austin site we we we defer people there all the time that to got all the information but we invite you on a talk about the latest trade in free agency in general for the new policies to go back. To Friday rainy coach traded to the New England Patriots they send. The first round pick 32 overall to the saints along with a third round pick. For cooks in a fourth round pick was the value to the value match up here with the production and you guys are big numbers guys. Yeah I I think they actually got a little bit more time I'm surprised that they were able to get a first round pick to be honest I don't plastic the first round. But aside what they did quite well on that deal went when I think about New Orleans make in this deal I think back a couple of years ago for the lions. And how they knew they weren't going to be fine suit. They knew it free agency or is franchise tag gonna cost and weight too much is going to be around point six million. And they've had under him and they did not thing and eventually it lost them in the and it compensatory pick which was a distant third or fourth rounder and that was this New Orleans. New cookbook at the new day it doesn't really matter it was pretty they're they're going to be able to find guys that can contribute they have got back to contribute are on the roster. And so they went and dealt a minute and they got fair compensation form I I think of the great deal. RNC you're trying to call all the fans down here is on Friday everybody boy we had phone lines lit up. Also along at 11 PM local time here people just up in arms about this deal saying bella check. And the patriots did it again you're saying ops of fast. Well let me put it this way. Cleveland and opera and the first pick in the thick rounds you think and maybe build. Yeah you're right online access and I thought I did that towards the I sort of think about that towards the end there are still on right now layout pages blank out the names Syriana this was a dead delta to the browns the jaguars and everybody would be nearly as upset thank you. I think he hit on the head we're also trying to grade some of the of the free agent pickups here for guys who might not know just how good or maybe not suited you deposed in Larry war effort AJ Klein is a star they declined because he's gonna have a pretty big role. On at a spot looks like of the seats have been sorely lacking in the last few years and that's at the linebacker position just how did client read out and it's time they are a lot of time last year with the equally keep the weekly compassion. And IR. He did he green felt fairly well. I'm not convinced with Andy the in the great long term solution. Now this certainly paid him as it is a long term solution so we have to be able to step up to them. But I I really think he's that that the middle of the road I think it might overpay for him about it. Kayla switched Hillary war for to morrow air warfare than Ted Ginn junior. Yeah war for an interest in one because he was kind of up and down and he Torre had a great rookie season. And and any kind of stumbled around a couple of years had some injury issues. In but he's sort of credit to the past decent. Still had more injury problems. Had a much better agree that again in 82 overall grade which would put men and a very good category. Come again for years 34 million that they're given a lot of though. Let me drive west of where to begin at their 82. I believe that's a rim pretty high grade regards the four PF after. Noted that very that there is out there and he's now in her top five earning 82 that. That's right where you want guys to be any time you have guys creating you know overall book 88. That's that's really solid so I again I think you're getting help former. I think they paid quite a bit warm blood and at the same time is it the decision of of big lead in. I think it'll go off on the line in the cabinet and figured out at least the this year has long Netherlands state help the commitment have a. Comment that like the hot seat was Horford was better run blocker than pass blockers I agree that with you. Yeah I I think to an extent armed honestly keep him back and forth on that throughout his years so I don't think there's really any real consistency there. I either way. And I'll just say I will. They've won the inlet and it is. He was added that. His rookie year when he had competent right tackle play next on that ticket etiquette that. At least for this year. In the war on I think that's gonna help amount and hopefully you revert back to what he did. As a rookie when he looked like he's going to be a perennial top five player in his position. Pain and our Josh let's cue it's at if not underscored Josh NFL analyst for pro football focus dot com here on double coverage and Josh Malcolm butler's a player has long been rumored to the New Orleans Saints and it's very potentially and at that trade apparently is not necessarily. Dead in the water could come to fruition on draft day. What do the numbers say about Malcolm Butler I get the argument that on Twitter fans in eyes a system player to the numbers say that. Our. I think is a little more in the system player I think the other quarter. They had there that think though that employer Logan right and I think welcome Butler. It closer to be number one again I think I think because he got that New England need behind the man everyone's scared of them. Everyone does think well there's going to be an issue. In the deal. Bottom line is we don't like eight people money. So it obviously worked for them in the past. But I'd need Butler is legit number one quarter and that is obviously a meter reader need it they can make that deal. And it only cost them one little first round picks I think it's well worth the. How does he how does he grade out Butler throughout the least the top top ten guy top five guy. I would say he's probably in the top ten to fifteen now but he's brilliant player I think he can. I think he can move up from there I think he can progress in. And I honestly I think at nuance would bring him in I think that right mean tell the girl can be pretty busy. Okay finally let's talk Ted again obviously not generate Iowa's I wouldn't think he does as a receiver OIPF that's rankings but certainly. Agree returner. Yet there's no question about that in the dynamic returner he's Arctic mountain said he'd take a lot of pride in he wants to win that job or on. Got to be able to catch the ball on he's at pumped and he's struggled with throughout his career. It is inspectors so many big plays he leaves on the field because of that you know Brees is going to be able to get on the ball so. I think it's going to be one of those things where as a receiver bureau was frustrated because he's gonna miss some big plays. But if they do use him as a returner I think they're gonna it could return on him. Josh finally nick fairly brought back on pretty good deal for the for the saints and are you surprised at the money maybe I think he could. I think that the thought was that he was gonna get more money and open Morgan was a wise to bring him back in a mix. The money doesn't surprise me simply because he. He's been working on 21 year deals solely as a bit long and pay him. Well I I think it agreed hurt him too often free agency. Everyone focuses on. Who you bring in from elsewhere away when you forget about the guys that you know he blocked internally and when you think about the market for his position at the position of need without non roster. Then that treat it. Defensive tackle it exploded and rush the passer at that you need is graded out in the top ten the last couple years for them. At that position in there's really no other players available there's no wanted to free agency that can do what he doesn't. It is part of the draft goes you've got a Koppel guys that top. But they're probably not positioned to take one of them. And obviously they just took one last year's I think is going to be really good player for I think they'll really Smart move Britain apparently back. Josh let's cue it's at if that's underscored Josh and tell announcer pro football focus dot com look at folks log on. To prove Wolfowitz dot com final site. Well you've got a lot of stuff going on right now right now you can purchase or draft pat that think it's 1999. Mitt basically. The line and told her replies you're gonna get it whether or podcast star reports were constantly. Updating mocked rats. Those in the come up almost daily now but everything you need to know underemployed you'd find a pro football is dot com. Just present a visit nicely done meant. Our heart goes Joshua skew it at if an honest I just such a Staten her new age analytics guy am I just love PFF and I love how they break down and every single business you know what they're doing creation. They are revolutionizing. The way that not only fans. But teams look at the linemen positions the interior offensive linemen and defensive linemen that were so tough to evaluate before absolutely Olympia fifth. Yet and look here's the thing is the you know rarely do teams pay attention to what an outside. Evaluating source in metrics put out. But I can tell you they pay attention pro football certainly do you know who's got a big stake in PF and a big name Chris on yeah. Couple years ago he seaside early what's the soiree invest and that the open man I come back we'll break down more of our brackets here go into the midwest and also the south give us your take ski mr. Bay's biggest bracket busters in the NCAA tournament who's going to be Cinderella. 5042601. A semi tech's 8787 on Twitter at set Dunlap at crushing our double. National nap day today. The Internet incest no excuses now though it says Timmy isn't but the battle your best. The that it was a feel very. Within that gas properties and it's man and a the house near mile confines of the month backed by David Allen and Adam good. I. Speaking of back nine backed by the broken in this. Our particular tournament bracket of it was a hell of a shift yeah four port Java me we lost our south and midwest. I was still midwest I think midwest is pretty much shock here I'd be very surprised if we do not have the same two teams in the unit going eyes so we went down with sweet sixteen to the eyes that Kansas. Iowa State organ. And rule. In the elite eight Kansas and you so I get. Kansas. Iowa State's Lowell but because of the injuries. At Creighton and or again these past couple weeks I'm going what I said in the carded dominoes Johnny a couple of minutes ago. Rhode Island will be your Cinderella heading into the sweet sixteen the elevenths the Rhode Island the mayor's well Timmy. I got Kansas I like Purdue a lot in this bracket miles have Rhode Island and I have legal migrant birds. Our enemies always news. Always been the cardinals I don't cutesy or cubs fan a cardinal sin. Unfortunately the game is at 2 o'clock on Friday so I can't come in Ramallah voters. You know where where it after the game and where for the inferred Felicia. All right so going down to south bracket. UNC Butler UCLA and Kentucky are my four. The sweet sixteen in that bracket. So this is maybe the toughest bracket for me especially when you get into the alienated but I've got UNC Kentucky. Be surprised and I plan on the second week in you silly one of the hottest teams in the country. And then Butler they seem to always be there but it's Minnesota or middle Tennessee reform. Comes out of that game and chaos would not be surprised at all suit either of those two teams in the sweet sixteen has another Cinderella but but. I got Yancy Butler. You cola. And yet you cola. But that's the cool kids on value. A little talk as well went on North Carolina when Butler when UNC and you silly. See this is lagging dagger realize winds are about to look at these going to a school like Butler. Right Butler yes is in the NC militantly perennially. Yes jamaicans roses sweet sixteen well here's the thing really when she Qaeda. That's okay I thought you're on somewhere else was down I completely agree not me like why Butler. But as an Indianapolis right Indianapolis yes okay so I'm an optics to that and analyze it only the budget the money that. It with the revenues that Ella she makes no ands. Look your privately wearing your tigers here in here today your guard as they search for new coach this is exactly exactly what I was stock of our talked about this coaching search. There is zero reason with a school. And athletic department as much resources they have yes coming on the back the football program everybody knows that. Should have a competitive basketball program mind and it. But Butler game zag at Saint Mary's three schools now mid major schools you see every single year. Also Wichita State has if you put four BC uses temp NBC's Lisa. Aren't Smart. The money's not there anymore he's now he's the tees and Texas so VCU has a menace consistent lately but I but the big four. Saint Mary's Butler and Zagat. If you still call them mid major. And Wichita State. I got a sweet sixteen into the elite eight and our final four also next hour James Moran. Toggle LSU baseball's tires you ready for SEC play. This Friday it's Georgia double coverage rolls on on W did well. I Rowland our to our two hour three wrapping up on our two. Still to come are in the eight picks our final four picks in the NCAA men's basketball tournament March Madness and shout out to the you know privateers and their and it tomorrow afternoon in men have played announcing merry as we check in that contest them talking about it after. They gain a seat deprived is to move on if they doing at number one seed Villanova in the in the east bracket but you know what eight. It is possible we'll see eventually we'll see a number and number one get upset by sixteen. Chile and we're all going to be shocked like who will be I don't know it's just really tough. A stud you. Villanova the were defending champs. Lot of veteran players back from hats and I'll see it happening now Anderson. I know it's wishful for this. So there's some though sometimes. You can pick a match to be don't think it's gonna happen obviously realize. That seems a little bar by a member in that had not this year but a couple of years ago when they're that once you've been actually southern. Going into that game that is this time was seeking its packet. Yeah they had to get that one sega's enacted two losses on the year but they were relieved number one seed material and southern. Played and within 68 points that now is it is common at 1205 in that the says most Walter 125 that's the biggest on the most common one and really that's just the most common of the double digit once you see you see ten sevenths you see some eleven sixes but. That's the divide it doesn't spread though. That's the dividing line you. More rarely see thirteen or fourteen seized pull it off and that's why we're talking for a Gulf Coast Gulf Coast they were fifteen seed moments when Madonna handful of times before that's why that was such a big story a few years ago. I'm Rolen on two hours three double coverage 504260187. Taxed 8787. LSU baseball they are ready for SEC play it's a project where people on line. At W to go like come would you think of the tigers swept which costing the pound them at the plate. Scoreless innings on the mound they found a nice little groove on pitching mound hello Jared tocchet still hasn't given up. I'll run this whole starting staffed 21 scoreless innings mindedness yet there on tunnel are eligible indictments and he's on firemen a lot of James Moore and Lee off next hour as well.