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3/19/17 8:10pm Double Coverage with Kristian & Seth

Mar 17, 2017|

Malcolm Butler watch, plus we'll talk to Ross Dellenger about the latest on LSU Football.

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I'm great it's March Madness bro I am. I woke up this morning and I had an early copy you know did little exercise got myself pumped in jazz for the tournament some great games this after Japan and have a little bit of about a twenty minutes here with my exact bulldogs who were trailing South Dakota State. Rep for eighteen minutes of that ball into the blue room sent the last person Derrick here and a marked man is under way obviously and tens ever master control coming up throughout the program. Or receive shots dot com what to do with the make about the pelicans fourteen injuring five and a half games back of the eight seed in the west. And is our changes. Needed to head coaching position for the pills because and it's it's an offense that's not working. A guy that Alvin Gentry who's literally ran an officer designed offense for two big guys at the wheel because history. Which makes it all that much more interesting is if you know that that's not your head coaches Forte. The he make this trade got out of the cinema boldly for failure potentially but does it just hasn't worked out so far from the though. For potentially but I'm here some whispers from fans riders behind the scenes saying that it's. A consensus is starting to reform that it's not gen trees offense because his offense right now with cousins and Davis especially when their on the court at the same time are generating tons of open looks. For their guards on the perimeter more open looks and they've had in his entire tenure. Those guys are dismissing shots so the consensus is now maybe it's not gentry we've been on this fired gentry bandwagon is offense is bad but perhaps. And the talent he's given been given the guard position by Dell Demps yes Demps gets credit for this treaty pulled up but. He also gets the blame for not putting guards on the floor at these big man. We'll talk about a little later on which it Madison Ross Dell in Jakarta. At the bottom of this hour at Ross Dillinger on Twitter covering LSU football for the advocate wrap ups for our armed just at least breaking down spring practice for. LSU but the news of the day obviously a resident holding their breath about. Cornerback Malcolm Butler visiting the New Orleans Saints had that visit is has indeed no deal is necessarily in place right now. Doesn't mean that there won't be both sides are motivated to get a deal done but this is a little bit more complex than. Then and a normal visit in a free agent signing because he has a signed his restricted free agent tender. In order for the path to be paid for him to be ultimately traded from New England to New Orleans. The visit went well here's the thing though April 21. Is the deadline to sign restricted free agent tenders. All right so a lot of times in the NFL deals don't kid done until deadlines that's deadlines for action. Any NFL yeah so. If you Malcolm Butler. May be your thing about hey I densely can hold out. And and we till April 21 and get a really good deal from. The doing of pages to I think ultimately he wants to stay there if possible but they're not will in the sun too long term contract that out obviously he's gonna shop round. He's warming up to the idea playing for the saints but. April 21 that is a deadline to watch to see this could go for a while that's complex because he asterisk sign overture to free agent tender and in the saint ultimately we have to work out a deal. There's a parameter in place right now eyes to it ultimately with the with the contract would look like. Now what has happened is. Boller assign or should a free agent tender and a patriot that agree with the saints on compensation. So it's a little bit complex that same time. You know. These wounds deals were don't count on it happening 2448. Hour from now. But you'd if if Boller is the sign that tendered that means he has to have conversations with the patriots and the saints at the same time. And be willing to trust both of those organizations. And as agents trust those organizations that there going to hold pat on everything but they're saying in these negotiations are now. It seems like a ton of moving parts man and I said yesterday and now we're hearing rumblings about the Houston Texans possibly getting and I said this yesterday. This isn't going to be the first trade and NFL history. For a at least a budding star if not a superstar that all of a sudden just one team is and on the east trade negotiations. There's going to be a bidding war I think for for this guy I really do and I know you can't I don't think so and you know more about the situation in the meat based on Christian I don't know. I don't know where these other teams are right now. When they heard this talk for the last two weeks about one of the league's top ten top fifteen quarterbacks and every team every team out there. Can use a quarterback. The caliber of Malcolm Butler and it was. Flabbergasted and to me that nobody besides the saints were on these ideas frankly in believe it I think the saints are talking to be seen Thomas dynamic the saints know that so. They got to get a deal done sooner rather than later and do you think it's concerning. That he got out of here without an opera. No because I think that. You know he he I think that you might be honest sounds and in terms of another team might potentially done. Surface right whether it's Houston Texans are other are other teams and I think he's leaving his options open to see if that happens if another team comes calling as of right now Alfie scheduled to visit and any other team. I think this ain't gonna work hard to try to keep him around keep you know keep remain competitive in and offers to them but. You always keep her options open if you're if you're Malcolm Butler because somebody could come and blow your doors off the big thing is though. Then I think it has to be considered if you're going to Houston yet you probably go into the better defense right. But you don't have a quarterback situation resolved there so how many games reach a mutually going to win. Better defense and about the better team right now we talked about it this week I think the saints to position themselves as one of the 34 best rosters in the conference yet and I am not. The reason I'm not concerned as I think the saints are just fully prepared to make it speaks like I was told that. They are there ready to make a splash at the start of freaks that that was their that was one there intentions at the start freeing that we're gonna splash at corner. This is the splash I think that they're looking for now could could they end up I'll miss about absolutely. But I think that there's been way too much too weak to me conversations to ultimately. Have this thing gold ride the last I think I think they're the moving parts are more so about the restricted free agent tender. And also the compensation that New England wants. Who has more leverage right now as of the saints Butler or the patriots. At this point right so yesterday always kind of the saints had more leverage and I agreed with you. Now that he's left town right he's holding that saints opera in his pocket and he's got John paid me cubes and everybody saw no movement as he goes back and probably. You know Dixon talked with the Houston and maybe some of the franchise's long five before Tuesday's. 1870 text 8787. Comeback for Alan or short Charles uptown John any meat in utilities and so on late seventy. On Twitter as well at set the lot at crushing Garrett on a text line and 878 Seve. I think it's a warping you back also topple over to our FaceBook chat live bespoke tenure about two minutes on Debian to a 396 and attacks on welcome back double coverage went live on our FaceBook chat said Dunlap Kristian garic he would do that not each and every hour after our first the team break but embassy. 2396 says Christian a double whammy gains. Houston is going to win didn't make the playoffs last year did the saints in no look at me if you wanna get effort into a tit for tat. Though you're right they did make the playoffs however. Will who would you rather play with. Fred they the guy savage Tom savage who could end up being Houston's quarterback. Or Drew Brees if you Malcolm Butler thing about that all things being equal the money B equals where I go one yeah I know the defense is better in Houston but ultimately. Today did she did Houston even have a chance in the playoffs is no because it'd have a quarterback. Yeah and I don't think I think depending on JJ watts health. If the defense would still be better in Houston but the gap is closing I don't think missing Stevens if they get butlers and to be. I think atop the team defense related Ali Ali you'll be elite defense I think we'll certainly be much improved their orders in the last two plus years. All right Malcolm Butler. In his visit with the saints new contract yet are you hopeful doubtful that something gets done between the saints in Butler and what would you work out in terms of the compensation voted Pete is he worth the 32 overall pick is he worth the second round pick out of package Tuesday so white semi tech's 870. 870 Charles of Dallas running on WWL Charles. Yeah. Only his Warner and I feel that this range. Get the ball lower with the second round pick. And get Rubin Foster an incursion factory. With their first round that would give them dynamic on offense we have seen some each global. A monster. Linebacker. And of course if we could movement on lower interest shutdown corner. Now yen group loss which is seen look. I would be OK with that mean and eleven overall push to pass rusher which pass rusher. That's the saints have said they need I get that Christian McCaffrey's at gonna be a dynamic player. I got to find a pass rusher from -- think it has to be a pass rusher at eleven because there are some corners and guys in the secondary. Who could really help you out and to LSU guys who talked about last couple of days. Whites and Adams should be there and latest projections multiple mock drafts have been going right about that area right around 114 Pia but here's the thing that that concerns me about that is. LB and that means that they did not give it to them now Butler. Troop I in any counting on a rookie to be. A shut down guy our guy demand the other side of the field. When militia markets Peter are you gonna go through some growing pains there I'll think deceit can afford. Panel rookie cornerback on with that much on line you know so I think that he would. You know I could see him drafting one in the second round as a luxury ticker some like that our. Dini swine PG winds coming off of concussions but as far as the eleventh are our 32 overall pick I think he got a final pass rusher eleven I think they'll be one for eleven. And then at 32 if you want dabble in the cornerback market viewer dabble in the running back market perhaps I'd be OK with it. Random thought here in question what's better value for netted eleven McCaffery 32. Who I think as a human McCaffery episodes ago. McCaffery 32 and he fits in better this roster and light Allen or Charles said there gives them a little Sproles dynamic Eminem. For sure things a phone call Charles John in a meet you on W the bill placed a call. I. To quit he won't comment or question my board there at all. Right interest. Chet Kelly. And oh so. Any player. Bill Belichick let go. Asia there through it don't real groove of and that has quit the sound. It. That the good gene that. In the you look for joy. Yet that the other. They'll grow up with. Yeah now now look at an ethics now it's a good point and I'm on the stand by that I think the good teams are primarily. They primarily heavily built through that Mair and drum. Rarely trading away picks. Rarely making huge huge free agent splashes but. All those teams will leverage him I mentioned yesterday the ravens the Packers the Seahawks. The Steelers the patriots all those guys and teams will make. Free agent signings or trades when they see there's value in there the biggest on the comes to mind as the Randy Moss a deal that the that the patriots made. There the Seahawks had Michael Benedict receiver once it got them Super Bowl championship. And I think the saints see this guy being Malcolm Butler more valuable 32 overall pick in the slow have lots draft picks in that draft even if they give up this one. Without a doubt look. He finds thirty can you guarantee me that they're gonna find a quarterback that comes in with his first do you want that experience with his skill set now he can't however you Pulitzer trade you know which are getting. And Malcolm Butler they've set out the but this is they kind of gone all in on Malcolm Boller at this point in. For the face it they an upswing in this in on this one and he goes some or else this is no good for team that that than me this kind of effort to sign. You know very hot commodity thanks for the phone call Robert in Baton Rouge on W ago Robert. I don't and I did great Smart man this man fantastic by you watch basketball and no I had to work and that'll work. Cord yeah in my car so it may disagree with me. I didn't even more than we do mobilcom Brad Pitt star. If you do. Army mobile O Pierre sadness. A lot allowed seemed that you wanted to you know say in the legal. They're winded. They don't like you know you can't we weren't built shall we want to go. You know go to would she want to hit it. It's an estimated it'll that the team. The number two. Good so it'd. Slapping. Look it's not this is a matter of look again this is not Malcolm Butler saying hey. No thanks again ideals not good enough. Get it twisted Robert this is about the I know it's frustrating it seems it seems simple to you and I. And and incest and in Iran it's that's out there watching this from afar. But it's not because yes assign abortion to free agent tender. And ultimately if you Malcolm Butler annual canal for what you have to do and as your best interest first you're not gonna sign that right away. That's that that's the piece that has to come come and play before a trade. Can be worked out this conversation was with the saints is visit with the saint is hey this is what it's ultimately this is what I'm looking for in a long term extension a long term deal the saints and butler's camp both know that but they can't do anything until he signs are sure to free contender now they were trying to entice him. With very good offer to go ahead and sign that does that help pave the way. For the in the ultimately if you. Here's what happened with Malcolm Butler he wanted to get paid like a number one corner this year and the of those conversations patriots offered in my utility said earlier today about six to seven million dollars. And obviously Boller won more than that then at the patriots go on signs that fund Gilmore for fourteen million dollars a year what are they mountain but not the bowlers that mitnick in. You assign this after fourteen years only offered me six what's going on courses feelings hurt he wants out. Understandably so frankly I think. Yeah I think you're absolutely right and I think the patriots in the saint M Boller ball kind of crossed the rubicon and there's no as a point of no return at this point it's either he's playing with the saints are playing somewhere else not a silly for doing our CBS radio news update and also your calls coming back next here and having to do well. I want to back double coverage setting Christian. Your reactions they Malcolm Butler. And the saints visit is over is scheduled to end today anyway no deal in place yet but both sides remain inched it in and positive about getting a deal done eventually but that should free agent and asked to be signed by Butler before anything can happen Georgian used to what's going on you're on W liberal George. That is where I actually did we plain against the Czech we playing against Barlow it's a try to get to crown hill or what he has done I mean the problem is that. The best game of the deacons. Were. That. Was in no doubt. You know what what what bench or get put in place we don't that would thanks for the report. We have to become quicker than. I think your first question was completely legitimate art this aids. Blame gets Malcolm Butler and his agent are they played against Bill Belichick and his inner strategies and inner workings from. The greatest minds in football it's legitimate concern though laid out yesterday I think I don't know I just. I still and I know Belichick and Sean Payton have this supposed great relationship there the best of friends. Maybe the two best friends from coaches in the entire league asks who I still. I'm a little concern anytime you're dealing with this organization whose is known. As. Shady sister of it's not the word I wanna use here but I guess it's the word if it's brought most properly is the shady is organization in the league. Georgian instantly. And he put your fears Andy's look at our so basically. Said Butler has signed restricted free agent tender right. Once that happens the saints go New England will give you a 32 pick. You want for for Malcolm Butler. I and then they need to trade in the contract is laid out. When Butler then becomes property of the new world saints when he's already under his contract that way the saints don't have to worry about. Other patriots can match this offer and take our eleventh overall pick. You know seniors and they're not gonna they're not gonna sign in to offer sheet. This is a Malcolm sign restricted free agent tender do that at paves the way. For you to be traded and then this is the deal you're gonna get once you do that is a trade for now the patriots did that end up going. Hey now look I don't we don't want third second overall but what that are out there that's completely memorized yet I don't for sharp but I think that they would be. They be a little silly not to I would probably concerned with that I don't think you're gonna get much more may be. And this is why the Texans came into play with the talk today may be a little bit higher than 32 in that first round Texans have I believe pick 24. In that round might be slightly hide from Malcolm Butler but certainly within the range of what he's worth so. Their interest and I don't think that you know where there's smoke there's Speyer if there's talk of ambient to do you know they're having this conversation yet and. Look at the saints halves that teller gonna protect themselves that's how they're gonna pick and you know protect themselves from the eleventh overall selection. Is hate him out of you know what you signed that tender we're gonna trade for you once we trade for you once we consummate trade. This is the dealing you'll flowing and again with the saints. Pretty simple. Easy way to protect yourself coming back your phone calls also Ross Dell and you'll check in on the elegy tigers aren't. Spring to spring practice is double coverage here on W duo. Big doings in Baton Rouge LSU football under way in spring practice Ross Dillinger joining us now at Ross Dillinger on Twitter covering college football for the advocate Ross it's been it's been live down there on. Yet it's here we. He gets into their practice of this spring. Out of the weighted AE and yeah extractor and they would be. He first practice in full pads of the spring. But I the third minute window that we can see did not include collisions which. As you might expect so. Being injured or he might talk on an individual drills. On interest since I was kind of boring you know he's got two players go through dummies in in con do sprints and you know so it it is principal Bob Breck it's. Yet look ultimately not mean he you know Odyssey too much I get it honest and I know that for a fact of that. And the saints can't everyday is saint nothing you you're watching guys around in shorts and all. Well when a little doing but anyway what what about the coaching staff wouldn't Matt Canada you know in the mix and also. So Baylor coaching changes that changes they've made how they meshing with the players. Well candidate certainly surprised and or our car fiery personality. He has he's status page everything quick and fast and there's audio went from him and screen and then criticize and also great and kids to do. Do well eat eat flat out you could hear him in. You hear from pro in the parking lot across street from the football practice should be pretty loud and Irene. Ethnic eat eat eat cake and it takes on the personality of the or it off and they want is for now it's fast break it up tempo it. You know move around like crazy people are moving around like crazy. You know that just come out kind of who years thinker but you know on higher in. You know it's been fascinating. The way that the media's kind of covered this spring practices it's been. Almost all abouts Canada and very little about or seen this before and I love this because Canada's obviously making an impact their bet. He's almost overshadowed the rookie head coach early Stella she's first year head coach in order. Yeah he he certainly. You know the offensive coordinator Ireland's. Was you know one of obviously one of the biggest off season but it arguably one of the big ifs and or odd years year or court just because. How they'll shoot offense has been specifically in the passing game. Several years and so that I would spotlight all had been on for a long arm and I get in my field grooming ER. And there are going crazy in the record the spotlight more so. Turned even brighter orange or charge you brought him broke. You know corporate health and it you know. You toward Iran not to take you know it should Kimberly to Jabber immediately open a practice for about half our currency and deliberately city. A lot of practice for a couple of days in industry income and he got spotlight the end and it's kind of like you know Mac candidates are now. Sure yeah yeah it's because sounds like you and your echoing a lot of what other people are saying that maybe even the Canada higher when he's ringing here at LSU is more impact for more important. They just retaining or your honor hiring more drum full time. It was big it is certainly was if it was so. You know it was an important and significant higher. Because. You know we're arc are going to be. That a ball would you often think you'll destroy that he's just not. Until it's kind candidate little baby there. He's gonna kind of run the show and so you are you put your offense. Day and often struggled for so law in the passing game that has been. Sluggish to release that will last through four years you put it. Paul and hitting it and so. Eight and one half million a year in date in your contracts so. They knew how important was in that figure seen now. The guy who were hired his is the guy. Picked on like that takes on corporate outlook on the offer tours are warned in the past space that can poke a little frail Little Rock formation just trying you know respect. It's a fear from Ross Dellinger at Ross Dunn Jones what are covers osu football for the advocate and he wrote a good piece of data settles summation peace at the advocate dot com saying you spent sell a lot of time with your eye on the defensive lines that it would deceit. Yeah we know it's hard because going individual group kind of attack about it. It's what you thought you know abatement practice defensive line Mexico split up and in away three different areas you have the defensive. Eons better contact. But the political reporter at the nose tackle well on their credible one group were peach ink it. Or Iran or in the book linebacker and structure which is courting key role he. Now with between the burning. In order to work with that guy is so he was pretty hard work are more nine. You know working with Andre but in Isaiah the Greek reps. Ski in ski out. So in the third time split is your year effort outside linebacker which is really a true outside linebacker. But they're also kind of right there the last scrimmage. So it is almost like he you know people like him he's human different climate and it over the total hypocrite and it would deter. It is Johnson got a lot of respect the couple split up all round heeled. A kind of watching each one and the pecking order at what that it would cut. You think you know regular Morse is kind of run of the one now nose tackle it. Beside him Christian lock that your and frank here in different antibiotic if one has been battered for Andre being inside Martin. All right Cutler in the ramps the number one reps. We're guarding key out on the court Thompson is it comparable with the number one and out not lump that truth caught up some life back a little. Gotcha what should this spring ball continues here what should fans Serbia look important. Well you have well I'll continue to be probably only offered in elm Canada. Alex Yeo and how the quarterback kind of competition. Blows a little bit in in what it does. If it were front and all the quarterback right now Orleans springer eating the same matter basically it has today. You know passage of the art. During the competition. They'll be the better quarterback on it yet more reps in. The one that a fall below that electorates let's keep denial you know Coca separate there. Ross Dillinger drop and knowledge at Ross Dillinger on Twitter curry knows football for the advocate in thanks appreciate it. Art is indeed I've from the program and the Ross is all over by the way if there's somebody to follow if you want deal as you beat. There is right there Ross delegates stuff from say I want to keep everybody updated acacia drab and listening to she wants him updates throughout the night on the NCAA tournament games they're trying to do this is we go to every break. Late in the second half. A Saint Mary's looks like they're gonna get by VCU they're up 8387. With thirty seconds left Florida State early on top Florida Gulf Coast fourteen to nine. Wisconsin and into Texas tipped off earlier today a couple of great games Notre Dame by Princeton sixty to 58. Maybe the best game of the day it was northwestern knocking off and they're built it's by a single point and our I can say organs I bulldogs now their hearts and your mom yet. There mines X kid that is true you're the only one in this on them that had them winning at all but exactly when. Could hear I. Play folks still wanna talk about Malcolm Butler shall squeezes and in Allen on the North Shore is impatiently waiting on WW. Well Alan. Yeah anchors and good things I don't. I don't know if you also hotter but on spot tracks. Been chilling Malcolm bottlers and it's tendered. You know what there was a report by a single source out there that was unverified. It kind of went viral bit I don't know if I would pay much attention to. And still others or does that our sport okay yeah I don't know. Who sports the attack they repaired like if satire. The people full time. About spot those spots and other illicit. Now spot legitimate but but there. For at least they are member there and aggregation sites to their taking stuff that people report is putting it in there and they're not always for good as they are and did you like him I think they're better than over the cap. Dot com Alec to use them more but they're not always completely accurate so until you get verification. From trusted source like Ashley Christian. Somebody else out there I I would when quite. It would not and I'll do my best find that if he indeed. Scientist and today you'll find out would be. The domino to fall in order for now on Boller to be ultimately traded to sing to put it this way if you don't think Christian view of Christian would have this and for Adams after Ian Rappaport would have a well nobody's it's. Yeah. 001 thing I was thinking was that. Maybe metre hole in this corporation back Boca as of the CPA. That they're concerned about have in this deal go go to France where it looks like. Outcome. NFL. Team CPA agreement. They key early silent tender where it with the idea that debt tenders currently. Just. Five men and contract early wasn't intended to be real car. Ivy League now. I'm sorry he said that. That that. Well being or canal street chronicles. What can make article about. The interpretation of how things ago. I think there is some vague language in there they're certainly I have read a little bit of that too but it's very vague language it's much like. You're not supposed to be able to trade players for money anymore but what the browns did with Brock oss Weiler got around pretty easily though they're some language in the CBS decision was that so. I now make believe it was into the pitcher to too worried about that. Hello I'm not I'm not throw exceeded any sites. On there's a lot of blogs out there etc. to be careful where you visit shelves yesterday Christian so I won the parity sites. Here neutral ground news they said their fate knew Cedric. And then I said there's some other you know legitimate sides that rather go to blow up. I solicited by the set either a couple of different you know TV channels that I think everybody for all you watched and then you said the same attacks can like a kids. I am a stay away away from that. Timmy dives deeper Souza now crazy website me like he was only text me about the partners apart my take and the the partial sports yet respect. It's if you follow bar stool sports you know that there everything bought. Integrity driven their all about giving clinics yeah well Timmy filled out his bracket with help from the onion toys. Let him but he did it pick that auction this year exactly. Yeah and as you trusted as an at Westminster dog Lou a Canner. Georgia Baton Rouge Gregory uptown Keith on a cell phone you to a 5042601878. Now whom Butler in the saint do not reach that an agreement. That is necessarily mean it's a bad thing but his visit is over it was scheduled to be over today. Are you hopeful are doubtful that a deal gets done between he and the black and gold double coverage rules on here on W to duo. I welcome back they'll cover squeeze in a phone call Louis and Hitler and Kenner excuse me could you on W into alone. I aggression are adamant. All right just. I'm on the stand it would be two separate deals to separate situation but some abuse on Malcolm but analysis settled looking back to pretty much treated raining cooks. And you're eleventh overall first round pick and consume and you know knowing what would one. You know that. What liberal think Louis here's a XP mad I missed it earlier the saints are not gonna sign. Knuckleballer to an offer sheet. That would allow the patriots to then decide to match war except the first round pick the eleventh overall pick. It's going to be meeting today was about hey sang your tender we will trade for you when we trade for you this is the contract the long term contract. Money wise you're going to get. So eleven the eleventh overall pick is not in place. I. Buy it more like maybe. It give them back that there second overall pick. Yes he's still so you'd basically be sending cooks for Butler plus moving up twelve spots from the fourth into the third round so. Little bit extra value there and maybe that makes up for the age difference because I think their value at their respective positions is. Almost equal I really do I go out there any Malcolm's a little more I think they're both the right at that rain number ten ish quarterback in the league. Louis quickly me anything else. Not a tit just the language and has both situations is great and I hope if anything it. Nothing more than a second round pick if that goes out and. I will pay if you are doing or if he he aperture if you wanted to when he goes down you're breaking news on your phone just text we hang up 87870. Text the word sports that you get the instant alert once this deal. Does on the for a little NCAA tournament updates we've got Virginia sex. And do Wisconsin tipped off. It's an insect can Wisconsin six of the game to watch and how about this Florida Gulf Coast they're given Fortis there and all they can handle. You have been winning at bankers and in your bracket port sit up only five and about halfway through the first half 22 to seven team anything else that non basketball guys dominating the I Xavier Maryland has gone final Xavier. Pulls the upset that. I had no idea here that is the first game I've gone wrong today Xavier bans on an element might lead it got holes that night if John hold you gradually up next hour.