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3-21 Tommy, where do the US and Russia go from here?

Mar 21, 2017|

Tommy talks to Brian Taylor, Professor of Political Science at Syracuse, James Comey's testimony and US/Russian relations

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Rex Tillerson secretary of skate state rather's going to skate and skip. NATO's summit that was planned for April to go to Russia and handsome meetings. There unspecified meeting with the Russians which is probably not gonna make our NATO allies field. Very secure an old Bryan Taylor joints right now professor of political science. At Syracuse and and and expert on. Number Russian US relations and more answer. I am I'm well thank you and thank you for taking the time witness. You against missiles you know and come onto this but since this news break in from NBC about Rex Tillerson and from disease it would it would what does that say about the administration or can we read anything into it that he skip and a NATO meeting to go meet with Russia. Well the way I read the reports this morning is they tended to cobble together two issues switchers pepper one is. It appears that pillars that will be making a visit to Moscow and late may. But this second issue is that he is apparently. Skipping and NATO Foreign Ministry summit which is going to take place in April. And so is reason for skipping that NATO summit is not because he's going to Russia but his reasoning is he wanted to be. In the US and president trump is meeting with president he has China. So the Tutsis are somewhat separate that they came on the same stories and getting mixed. I get duel thanks for clearing that up force. I'll moisture did take away from the hearings yesterday. Well in terms of the the Russia angle. At one level there was no surprise because it's been previously reported that the FBI was looking into possible contacts between. People associated with the trump campaign in the Russian government. On the other hand I think we've stepped back from it it's kind of a surprising development. A sitting president and his associates are the subject of counterintelligence investigation. A pop possible cooperation with the foreign power during a electoral campaign. And nothing specific about trump obviously bit about some of the people. Around and so that's the surprises and of itself and that I think the other interesting news was that this. Counterintelligence investigation in the FBI has been going on since July so while the campaign was going on they opened an investigation. Arm. When it comes to Russia and influencing or attempting to influence elections around the world. Some day this is something that it has is a relatively new development under Putin nor it's always been that way. Well one can go back to actually the Soviet Union in the efforts by the Soviet Union to influence elections and both Western Europe and in the United States. But there's certainly has banned an uptick in activity over the last I would say five or six years. In Western Europe and of course during the US presidential campaign as well so in that sense it's a much. More recent surge and a completely new phenomenon. We at one point James Toney was asked by ND. I think it was represented gallery and I quite sure. To about Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump saying that he is a candidate trump saying that he admired who Nanette. Imprudent with like somebody that like team which seem kind of high school ocean wave but. What what what is it about Donald Trump that would make him a more attractive president. To Russia and Vladimir Putin and Hillary Clinton. Well there there are two sides to this story suffers. Starting waited as Secretary Clinton. Good evening Clinton never really got along and in fact. Food net accused Clinton of being behind efforts by the Russian opposition to undermine his government back in 2011. There was. A surge of protests. And Moscow and other major Russian cities about faults but elections. And Putin quite publicly blamed Hillary Clinton forward paying people to protest and instigating as protests so. He had to view of Clinton as he was trying to undermine. His presidency. And then on the other side it trump was in some ways more attractive to Putin the Russian government because of this series of statements he made it seem consistent. Which Russian positions calling into question whether NATO is obsolete. Talking about it alliance which is. Russia it is take on ices. Seeming to news suggests that Crimea should be recognized as part of Russia's so a series of public policy statements by trump. As well as the personal statements about who also made him seem like someone who would be more favorable to Russian interest. So. What what. Is it going to be like what is this portend I guess for US Soviet relations with this investigation. Hanging over I guess that both countries are. Humbly. Is it gonna be hard or how to how does it change I guess a relationship. Yeah I think. The Kremlin was hoping that once stroke came into office that there would be a quick reversal in what is really been a pretty bad patch in US Russian relations over the last. Two or three years. And they woken up to the fact that there's not going to be a quick change this sanctions relief for you there. Annexation of Crimea and instigating war and Ukraine is not going to happen quickly. That some the other major changes that they hope might happen. Would be. Adopted quickly in terms of cooperation on other issues and there're couple things that Russia has sort of focused on wind is. How Michael Flynn was pushed out of the job is. Headed Security Council they saw that as a sign that. Sort of Washington establishment was against any change in relations with Russia. I don't think that's actually what was happening but that's how that was interpreted in Moscow. In one could even see it in terms of Russian television was covering properties to give them a lot of attention. And then it seems pretty clear order came down from the Kremlin to back off and not be talking about cup so much on Russian TV. Get a text syrup quick before we let you go and it says the Texas Tommy what drives me crazy about the Russian issue. It's as far as I can recalls they never generated false information they only released. Information is is that still accurate at no point did anybody say that propaganda was released her emails were falsified didn't. Was there a again a couple of issues here in the the stuff they came. Through WikiLeaks that it's believed that direction packed from the Indians the and from John productive from the Clinton Campaign don't know once said that they'd doctors. Don't lose. Specific records and emails but. What is noteworthy is that they choose to. Into and leaked material from only one side and apparently it also packed into some Republicans. That accounts but they. Chose to keep that to themselves. And then the second point and why would it have been more complicated is that there is clear evidence Russia. Using what they called cyber trolls to pose. It's what we now call fake news in the obscure outlets and and having it picked up. In media in the US and other places around the world. And those were stories that were designed to. Increased support for trop and undermine support for Clinton they do is that a lot of countries they've been doing it. In Europe as well. So there is sort of a propaganda element to Russian foreign policy needs to be the west by. Proceed text you his right is that the separate issue from what came about through that we can meet. And quickly before we let you go with all of your experience and and knowledge and study do you think in your opinion that the Russians in any way influence the results of the election. It's hard to point to any specific saying it does seem pretty clear that they were trying to influence the results. And the one thing I would say is that with all of these leaks of emails. Coming out from. The DNC and from the Clinton Campaign. It kept the team Hillary Clinton emails. In the public guy even though they Hillary Clinton emails there were completely different from her presence server would use secretary of state. But it all got wrapped up together in a story about Clinton has a problem with emails. So the rest of leaks did help keep that story alive but I would. Stated that was probably less important than game coming statement. Right before the campaign about how they were reopening the investigation of the server issue. Wills news is because Anthony Weiner and he's writing it. Exactly right that you Cirque.