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Think Tank 1210pm drug addiction in the city

Mar 28, 2017|

Should drug addiction in the city be treated as a health issue or drug issue? More deaths due to overdose in New Orleans than homicide. This hours guest: Dr. Jeffery Rouse - Orleans Parish Coronor

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Actually I Darlington Itar Manassas filling in for Garland Robinette it's still the think tank and we are still think in 2601870. Is the number to call he detects an 877. And this hour should the drug addiction in the city. Be treated as a health issue or a criminal drug issue more deaths due to overdose in New Orleans than homicide last year as reported. By the Orleans parish coroner. Doctor Jeffrey Rouse says who's joining us now doctor Rouse thanks for joining us here on notably well. Thank you for the opportunity to address Republican to beat you. So this is the as far as you can tell you says historically this may be the first time in history that we're seeing in this. Yes I do believe and this is you know unfortunately New Orleans does have little. Political reputation as being quote unquote murder capital although thankfully our rates are down historically specially to where they were in the eighties but. As far as like and so this is the first year certainly undermine tenure in under anyone's memory. In which the number of overdue steps out in that apartment in the city. So for 2016 the final number was 211 persons had died as a result of an accidental drug overdose. That's correct in the compared to 92 persons who died the year prior to that. Well represented eight near dump over double in the one year in Malibu. And we saw that coming to an extent that the numbers of the year. Talked about the City Council and various other things. Not to use in the finals just exit the enormity of there is nothing ill. Increase in doubles in the year in either public health or criminal. Injuries he does that Russell grew up X number percent. That percentage is never toppling. And so. Unfortunate situation. That demanded the to letting the public and government you know this is my job. To watch some people to see the trends and typically. Person collective action to get out of this problem for continued source. Do you think decorous and this is more of an and a health mental health issue with that with the drug addiction rather than a criminal. Issues there are we approaching this wrong. It I would vote I would you're talking to doctors summit. Seven and medical 25%. Criminal justice. Now I can never give up not knowing what I know now about supply and incredibly lethal drugs and how those people drug and to support that the bike even more of synthetic trucks going to milk and a don't come out they all should ridiculous. These substances. Will. And they are the legal that they are in their uncut form. An acute danger to a police. Cordon that eater who wouldn't even in the so. In support but the bottom line is once people get. Addicted to these drug. You know criminal justice system only has some tools in its battle to get that person debilitated. And it happened not and. Speaking. As a doctor again doctor Rouse. Are some people pre disposed to addiction is there there is genetic link to this that being addicted to certain things. Yes that very much it is and there's some some good science is come these kinds of search especially at queens. Who happens to people war. And ready and so household. I wanted to all he kills them basically shoot that there is a genetic predisposition. To addiction. So one person could dump and genetic predisposition. Than many experiments. Portrait alcohol or other. Cotton. Bowl and the but for some other person that's strong in the history of addiction. Tampering are predispose. Not only become more likely to. Form that. Shouldn't happen in the but they're typical greens are doomed them to get there responding anymore aggressive. Style and manner. Didn't administration easings. So it's not a matter of and just will power for people. Ellis it is not a man just will power. Over it will it will power and desire to change in the desired committed more like it. Of course important. But all that talk about chemical. Literally go and hide out. Portions of the green. In theory. Straight up world biological level so the biological effect of these compounds cannot count. Do you think the and this just your opinion from what you've seen you think the war on drugs it's time for a different approach here in the city. I think it absolutely on for an additional. You know we've only gotten so far with eighty. Quite nearly. Criminal justice angles to them. You know. But the treatment side. People all of this train and to stay off the photograph into a lot addiction treatment and work. That idea. Seen people in the mid. Oh all both cute peacock as well long term recovery and nobody can work good problem. It is again as so many things are one of them accept that money. Right now. If you call in. To try and get enroll in Scotland to be treatment it can be typical in this region. Wait so long. And people two you know it legally fight it and an assist. As far as how the the city of New Orleans addresses this going forward and use it addressed this in major comments to whoever the new mayor will be because we will have a new mayor because that Merrill Andrews you know term limited note. This you know this is something that they're going to have to address you think going forward. Absolutely. In this community. Is focused and Google life program. Fit in the area of global. To looking at the sort of violence in the city in the world of course still. Should significantly in the bill never left. You know this is all the mother. That had been somewhat in the should happened you know blah and that the city. Well. Hold it shouldn't just has many more people. Government. And so. I don't exactly know what would be the solution will take on the city wide level. To be initiative to kick that ball to the political. Court because it. Sitting in the job that we talk. That unless there is political will to direct money funding to actually. Hear. Nothing. So. I couldn't into the next. Side doctor Jeffrey Rouse Orleans parish corner anything else you want to tell us before we will let you go and you very busy there. Sort. You stated not all statistics. Course I will see the person to that can't illness and addiction. There is help out there with people like for the help to. Get that help because. Once they get oh if they stay in the program they learn from the medical profession. Well it goes. Well. Coke is possible recovery is possible. I'm doctor house Orleans parish court thanks for taking time with this here on the W. Thank you so much will take a break. I would turn it over to you guys do 601878. Where he detects an 87870. What do you think should drug addiction in the city be treated as a health issue. Horry criminal issue right now that is separate jaguar and people those of you voting online 65% of you voting say it's a health issue. 35%. Criminal issues. Right. We'll take a break and be right back full line throw contribute to 601 rates have if you dealt with this in your family someone you know yourself. Wanna hear from you 2601870. Or in Texas and 87870. Tonne and for Garland be right back on WW well. Analogue back to WW atop an assistant for girl in Providence the think tank here on the BW 02601 needs companies that article you can text that he 787 separate jaguar opinion poll. To drug addictions that he be treated as they help issue Horry drug issue right now those view voting online at WW dot com. Are saying that it should be treated as they help issues now this is the coroner's report that he release. Stay on the point sixteen accidental drug related deaths in New Orleans in New Orleans he says I'm reading. Straight from a in New Orleans accidental. Our drug related deaths and 2016 were more than double that of 2015 there were 211 drug related deaths in 2016. As compared to 92 drug related deaths in 2050. This is likely the first time a drug related deaths have surpassed homicides in the history of the world and toxicological analysis and most drug related death revealed the presence of multiple drugs and when he sixteen. Opiates were discovered in a 166. Drug related deaths. A doubling as compared to 81 in 2015. Within this group of accidental opiate related deaths in New Orleans there was a more than threefold increase in the frequency of Fenton all a powerful synthetic OP toyed. In when he 1640 persons died accidentally with fentanyl their systems compared to thirteen in 2015. Cocaine was president a 105 accidental drug related deaths in 2016 as compared to 34 in 2015. Amanda amphetamines and amphetamines for president eighteen accidental drug related deaths in 2016 as compared to four. In 2015 so as you can see he's going down the list of all the the analysis that everything is going up and is doubling more than doubling. Says no significant change was seen in gender distribution between the years with males representing 80% of the drug related deaths. While the absolute numbers of drug related deaths in both African Americans caucasians increase in 2016 is significantly. They statistically significant increase was seen in the proportion of African Americans in 2016. Afghan Americans were 45% of drug related deaths in point sixteen as compared to 28%. In 2050. So. That's what he is talking about it yes so steroids and painkillers and people are texting about. Those as well. That their part of the problem and part of the mantle as go to a market in Covington a mark thanks for calling WL. You couldn't hear him. Question what should be treated at these fuel criminal and human. My opinion due to my experience. That it should be treated at that issue. I'm actually. Treatment center. With nutrition we find that. You know it all year feet per cent of the people on throughout the facility here got cheated or addicted to opiates and in the share what we were sitting that the government offered to pay for its own. It Sabato apprenticeship which and other that I get the birds and now the ball for the street corners gunslinger and secure. It blocks you'll be a system. Yeah docks. It's it's. There are nutritional pastry. That actually restored the option. Every move to the kids just thought in the clay from the attic due to the brain deficiency. From the trauma. Speaking from experience. Are you or your. Idea that would be interviewed yet so and I would renewal. And it facility that in the city side Mississippi. It'll all objects that. And probably do it which you wait awhile they'd be restored that he's and to the they simply could now and he you know that it took our child. And then come community and it's. It that you that it. About it but don't and it's about so bad it used to play receptive to it. That they were that these. The opiate. What ever. What what are you would you say it is some of them against some people texting in saying that they've seen reports that say if you can give them the Disco cold Turkey for a while it works better. Okay pro life experience of the drug addiction is through your important. Aren't intra. I don't want to ministry doing so I'd ministry. In the present system. People here out in the world system acts eight you're the pitcher being here. Heroin addiction due to the fact that Hitler. Speaking of the truck or the alcohol. It'd be any given Q and their future of the in the restored. Back to its spot aforementioned. They don't worry that the children dealing with nutrition have 80%. That actually they respect the people that. Now and again. But it can come to apply as we aren't being treated them so 90%. Of all I'd turn it into the packed. We can accept insurance on it because the government can't control because that's nutrition. That they you that we should treat it. And responding the way it's. Like a catch twenty that the criminal or other than that it took to the plate. But it will tell you. Sure that's I hope that it. Our host deal and possibly Q you took this. That this important thing. We call an odd they cannot they. The effect that bill also they tried judicially. And that's where that. I'd pitching coach and that's why it's also revealed. That based on an opiate treatment program. Vomit your new type or you know so it's. Conventional that you just open. So are you want to start taking. Market thank you for the call man. I'd say do you think the comments. Yeah and I'll popular taxing that severely getting started with the Yugo PO it's in pain. It's visited with says here texting. Simple or convoluted logic pain is not too subtle reminder that you or alive Payne is a nodding to set a reminder alive being alive is a good thing. Drugs that replicate the pain which reminds one of being alive must then surely be that within reason there for pain must be relatively good thing. You know I got I have myself I have chronic pain here again back pain had back surgery yeah god. Again I'd need problem again again. Problem with my foot etc. it's. But I never really I've never taken pain pills for it and over the counters. And yes. It always hurts. Constantly hurt her right now. And I'll wake up in the morning and and there are some mornings I wake up and I'm my back there isn't so much pain that died you know I don't know if I wanna get out of bed. But I do. And I just know that to mean that is this a realization that hey okay wake up at the opening them alive it's time to get up and get movement. That's just the way him some people can't deal with it. But some people get addicted to it. Is that where the problem is is that with our doctors and our healthcare system. CBS news update coming next. And welcome back to WWL 260187. He's an article all you detect State's 78 semi okay the rest of the show is. For you guys you can call and comment on what we're talking about here are pretty Jack or opinion poll should drug addiction in the city. Be treated as a health issue or drug issue you wanna continue talking about the yeah. Legalization of the of Merrill wanna act Canada is about to do what should the US follow or about the health care system. And one Payer system that Bernie Sanders would like bush again he's pushed it twice already. Andy's trying to push it again would you think about that. And how would major healthcare experience in relationship to all of this will play it all together disputes gonna continue this conversation. Into the next hour as well. And do you know of someone. Who's dealt with the problem of drug addiction. What did they do were they able to beat. Their addiction howl they able to beat their addiction. You know someone is addicted to painkillers. Time. We often hear a lot about the people who doctor shop. And go from doctor to doctor to get more more pain keel painkillers because they're addicted. To them. Yeah detects an 878 Sony says the method used to get off the pain medicine is to slowly diminish the medicine at a ratio of 10%. Down every two days. This is taken with blood pressure medication prescribed this a process of maybe two weeks this is only for the attic tonight abusers. It's a fine line if you checked somewhere it's noted. Taken somewhere it's noted on your file your life insurance renewal skyrocket before all this has done. Addicts need to accept the fact that they are addicts. Another text that came in here Nazis were detected. Such comment earlier in more takes Damon which way. I think one thing as you mentioned no one ever talks about people used painkillers yeah. Because they're in chronic pain and don't abuse them I've been taking for pain pills for fifteen years and never once abuse them. We have a right to live pain free the government is trying to put this ball in one basket. No the government's not if you're not dying from an overdose or you're not abusing. The pain medication that's being given to use then obviously. That's being prescribed by a doctor and it's not being overprescribed. Then yeah there's nothing criminal they are you're not abusing the bankers I understand there are people that are chronic pain like a set of chronic paying too. I choose not to take. The painkillers in the drug and and and whatnot I take over the counter stuff you know. When it gets really bad. But I've gotten to the point now where after awhile I've gotten used to it so when I go to the doctor they give me that pain scale you know with a smiley face one to ten where you that. It's kind of hard for me to answer it because. For some people and and my wife experience you know and when you have back pain it's hard to distinguishing if you look normal most people don't see it you don't. You're not always been Dover or walking funny. But my wife and hurt her back once and she says this which you feel every day and I'm like. Pretty much and she said OK I understand now and I've I've been able to more sympathy for you but to me that would be. Off four maybe five on the scale is amused to a word her it was an 8910. Put when I first got hurt yeah I was attend every day. It was back. And after awhile. I just got used to but again that is me. That doesn't mean because you're taking painkillers. Or you're on pain pills prescribed by your doctor and you're not abusing him. That that is the wrong thing to do it's not what I'm saying Paula saying is from my perspective that's a lie and able to handle it and on the board that a move the more than you do things. In helps alleviate the pain that's why so when it get up in the morning the first thing when I wake up. It hurts the worst. And John which agree with because he's in the same boat to. When you start to finally move around but at some point there's some people that can't move around they feel like it's so much pain. And that's when you get into that spiral of we'll have a little bit of painkillers tells me more is gonna help me and if I take more that's gonna help me even more. That's when you start down that path and if you're already predisposition. To having an addictive personality that's in your genetic make up. That's only gonna get worse. Let's see here let's go let's take the break before we go Daniel and a doctor Luke both you guys hang on it's the more you Texas well. Dan year next won't come back from the break then doctor Luke. Tavis is in for Garland Robinette. What do you think I want your opinion on this. Should the drug addiction in the city be treated as a health issue and not a crime. Issue. We'll be right back started for Garland on WWL. And welcome back to 60187. Any you take city 7870 Todd Manassas in four Garland Robinette some of the text that are coming in. Says the people that take pain medication and to. And abusive do not have the genetic marker that makes him prone to diction. Someone else says my wife has been on a low dose of biking in for years to issue abused them know is she addicted yes. And her short term memory is shot and effect of long term usage. Someone else says drug addiction is a psychological issues those that are addicted to and seek out the drug are generally seeking the Heidi received. Those that are taking medication as described in our receiving optimal outcomes for example pain relief or not the problem. Is those that are seeking out the high that are the problem that's a psychological issue. Possibly. The mark of depression anxiety war. Stress sort of mass depression anxiety or stress. To 601 A semi those are some of the Texans came in at 87870. Got a lineup for you if you wanna call it's go doctor Lou K doctor Luke thanks for calling WW well. Yeah. I've been listening to a call here but there were several years and never want him. You have an expert. Brutality of it may problem areas that everyone. It is called boring bear. And that caused. By it would ever Europe. We. Or use orders through her own real. We jail. Cell. You cannot read or. Day or trial. You can revive am UK not. Every program. I'll eat or read it in that inspires little brains sales. To come alive. Art the what you have to do it come to grips with the track to the part that patient has been at L. And incapable. Following a routine pattern of law or program. Because they're an absolute. Do not open and close anymore. Yeah it can be taught how to re wire girl. Two 40 circuit. And open circuit. Would sell them to. Appropriate from a different point of sinking feeling thinking and and allows them to avoid repeating. This same personal injury. Well you talk about a psychological approaches. First and you want. Involved. In. Therapy for drug addicts. It was a psychologist. Or a minister that the only two program. I think it is program. The convicts in the penitentiary. And the only cure program and get them in place psychology. Approach. What you behavioral. Modification. If you keep repeating these same races or or. Eagle eagle yourself. Or if the minister and and you keep cradle or in oracle oracle work and you'll get relief. He's as well you. But why is it and it keeps happening because once that person. People from back there be for very brief moment. Idiot compel local back into the behavior. Because he doesn't know any. Doc deliver not not all of them go back and I'm going to dark because that is out of your doctor or not but. Not all do there are successes and we've heard of those success stories so not all go immediately back the minute their out of a program not all of them. Those that maybe pre disposition. To have that gene where they haven't addictive personality of their become addicted to something Easley. It's harder for them. To break that cycle of those a withdrawal symptoms. Some mistakes in outlets and that's a vicious cycle that they're dealing with him when they're trying to recover. From those appeal it's especially in someone else takes is that yes you can replenish brain cells have been tests that show that that does happen doctor Luke thanks for the call. Thanks for world for what you're doing right now trying to help people. We'll go ahead take a break we'll get a traffic update. And believe something is spewing on traffic wise as we have to take a traffic update so we'll get a traffic update and then come back and wrap up the show you two ready for scoot. Who will continue this conversation coming up in the next hour here on WWL. At a welcome back to ominous is in floor Garland Robinette 260187. Texan eats him negates him some attacks that have been coming in that he seventy eights and again these are the tax. It's the terminal cancer patient because of the idiots that abuse pain medications we have problems with giving comfort care why do we get punished because of the drug abusers. Very unfair problem that we have to do you weigh on the ones that are abusing the drugs. Us. A seminal says via programs in Louisiana did not address co occurring diseases and are not long enough and do not have. Follow ups long enough you can not cure someone in thirty days of jails have to be eliminated for the treatment of addiction. And instead start with treatment we have to turn Louisiana into recovery state. And everyone I'm trying to focus and everyone has to be on the same page Norton and Miller addiction problems in Louisiana we know how to party party. But we don't know how to handle the addicted. Turning them into felons and incarcerating them isn't. Fun. Can make up the last word on civil roster process he did broke up. I like half forward there. A day isn't. As oh is an uncivil atrocity. On the other word finally Cayman. That's what happens when he takes long it goes in the like 45 different things. All right one of their talents antennae for getting the show together. Just wait for routing master control and for you all for rock calling in texting. And a big part of the show as always coming up next Scott will continue this conversation. Operated jaguar opinion poll majority of you say. Drug addiction in the city should be treated as a health issue not a drug issue will see you down the road back.