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Yes indeed often run an hour two of its just sports here on WWL I anathema dot com coming up this hour Gregg bell in her BT OP both set now them on Thursday about serves academy graduates and should they go straight to the pros the few the proud the perot's after graduation. On the academy's we'll talk about it with those two those next but also Steve on line one year on WWL Steve. A new chip are fine. At her. Acadia. Ocean. How they are what this whole controversy sparked a prop alternately being with each. When date though on all the plot lines. Like from high school which is normally it cage. The student or new recruit. He didn't think there's a possibility. You know you go actually her Atlantic career. And what they can do to be whole body recruiting all coached yeah. Would you won't really be sure your athletic career or you want to blow into the military. And become one by dish you're fighting in the world. Cha at all with the crude I really believe. National academies so when Google today academies though Steve they're not being recruited necessarily solid recruit that's baloney and hesitant was the guys that. They're being appointed they are they are applying it there also be appointed. Like congress so I I I hear which you're seeing in that ultimately. That you know obviously it's a thing about that but but what about the what about the guy that's eighteen it hasn't developed yet like a guy like T the Robinette from air force to mean so maybe he wasn't. Highly recruited these guys article deserves at least not in all likelihood getting recruited by Alabama LA issue. All I mean they they're getting recruited by like schools in terms of either academically but also athletically so. You know line I just feel like. Yeah well that's noble thought that's a noble thought NetSuite Shari I just having. You wanna. Earlier military obligation. To your shelf you've been able that your country. Church early in order. Are you can't rule out possibility. Maybe there have been able to regroup and high school and every thing but it. If you're good enough to go and play scorched. Everett connected to an apple can catch the wind blows it make situationally. You know but he. Even at he. Level. From congress and everything else should these guys or into out at me or are you know the situation may be. And it also does that much about them. Wall Street's to. Your goat here you're gonna go there and that it can. You know. And to express their application is due to each other abilities or should showed. A little bit more. Proportional type of an environment for them to recruit an important appropriately. And nobody should not be there are contracts they shot on the bottom line. Q unit to go to the academy. At all and they want to get out. With a guy that we're too and they passed him over. And. Yeah earlier local. There there are guys that simple policy there are many women that are coming only serves academies that. To go the corporate America instantly. In economy. For 2005000. Dollars a year but guess what they're supremely Talbot not athletically maybe it'll actually. They stuck to serve their their time on saint saint should apply a football players basketball players in baseball players are steadily come back for Greg bell here it's just sports on W annually at the dock. I want to back double coverage Kristian garic in the flying solo tonight without said the levees being a little R&R and as you heard over the last. Half hour or so we've talked about this hot topic that touched off on Monday in particular. You guys know on the veteran and now we will welcome in here in the second another veteran former. Drill sergeant united states army serve proudly and you know we we share war stories so to speak out at seats camp from time times the past that time he's also. Seem to be reported for no knock on her BT OP joining us now on. RB you texted me this in this story about in the service academies. In particular air force. Requiring their players that were eligible for the NFL draft to serve a two year commitment he had James Mattis the Defense Secretary. Cutting two years off of that commitment yet to serve right away. Ultimately. I got I didn't get the outcry I didn't understand why they were so upset about it I think it shows you. There's a bit of a lack of understanding of what the what the military ultimately. Means to have to sacrifice and and watch people serve. It was huge disconnect yet to be correct restored actually started. The head Thursday he will win they air force academy let all of Anna spoke keen to know. That they're cadets would not be able to the order your service and instead would have actually sort that commitment. We kind of wanted to go wait a problem because of the lack. What the grappled over. Not all the sudden it's out there are and of course that the Denver Post yet they get it to restoring on this and then not bad your national media people jump on. Pro football talk. At an opinion that this is gonna diminished. The quality of football it service academy the Washington Post columnist came out and said all the players should have the right there and then well. But what loft the ball this. There is no lack of understanding of what these service. But pat he's up for Nissan academies are not football factories and at the Indy cadet midshipmen who grew to a service academy. Under stadiums. That you are going bear to become a leader warrior. You're going there to become. A soldier but naval officer a Marine Corps officer at an airport pilots slash officer actually you know put. It is to try not leader of men and women. To prove they actually ultimately find them up in the combat so they're not there to play sports sports and secondary. As they said it in the West Point 1912. Class year book called the howitzer. Football is not life or death. Football a sport sport this chance and they made sure they pointed out it's a critical distinction I think that's what your. Which are talking about here the easier. Men and women that are trained to lead in in the lead us military and their priority is not on the athletic field it's obvious and by the way. Herbie I don't know by a crew with those takes. From other outlets that it's gonna diminish the programs of the Serbs academies and by the way I don't think the service that is really care all that much that they do lose. A little bit because again there may priorities to train officers to lead his military. And I agree would you carry it. My point would get MacKey wrote something like good buddy Greg well he talked beat writer for the new Tribune up there to coldly yet keep all of the column. Could you were actually check and I know Greg Greg and I go back a few years Greg bell was. Heavily not a former he would go West Point that he's the red army officer. So that when you and I ran across each of the first time on the and it helped beat Sweden you don't. Just like you would like Christian. You know we we know military people tend to. Walk together and he didn't do it a go between. Then and now we're talking about that and. What is so. In you're not okay frustrating about some of the hot patrons some of the national media they walk on football. The military in general this mission in general does not revolve around athletic. I had an act that college athletes who go to these service academy understand. That their primary mission when they graduate. It took so not the play professional sports. I'm sure twenty years the United States on a retired senior and she'll wink I was a master shark had not really just with a lot of west pointer to too proud botched. Had an opportunity to show with a lot of former West Point football players. That's a very proud blushed. I don't think in new of them told me I can't look calling you insane I I went to what what because I wanted to go Vienna well then they went to West Point. To learn how to be a leader did mostly higher education. And become a leader government. And how hard we TO be at RB TO be on Twitter saints beat writer for no not come at times beat you were not talk about the saints and I don't let the military obligation. A line in the recent policy from the DOD and also. From the air force academy not allowing some of their players to be drafted in the DOD DOD changing it to a have a two year obligation service obligation. I get to that a couple minutes but. Herbie some people are saying won't want to just let him serve after. You know that they're playing career is over I got some issues with that I'm curious thing to hear your take as to why. That's ultimately not very logical Roger Staubach did but I think it's a rare case. They've been extremely extremely will say look. I look at it like this current world situation that he's older so much rhetoric out there you've got a lot of Saber rattling. From countries. That you. We traditionally do not get along I don't think this is the time and police to allow player to score and or at least go into professional field and you've got all this going on out there. Quite frankly I don't even know what the problem aside the deferment aside. If you'll allow does that. We want somebody downlink who'd Martin did not get. The measure that's what the military is all about the military is mission. A mission right now is too sure I don't think. Should allow some of these people or so many athlete obviously it approved on a case likely bait and you don't like the policy actually is not know this. What ended up happening in my opinion is. The Department of Defense brought the airport in line with the rest of the branches asparagus because the airport with a 12 would allow more and more of their oaks. To defer that to your service. But it'll grow back your question no I do not agree with letting letting cadets were the pros and they come back and serve here that are toward duty because what about. The message does that send to the rest of the force. Selfish selfish special accommodations. And more special note that the military teachers teamwork teacher. He had that the needs of the or the need to do they even need to the Supreme Court that need to air force com above. The individual. The military is teamwork based and that they kept on the horrible message. If somebody you went to war you're a college at what point in 83 academy. And you'll let them and hopefully sport wonder what your classmates go forward not that bad but bad law. Now that the acting about it from a from a pragmatic standpoint OK so Selig said a guy does do that in this situation though that we both opposed but it. They allowed got to go play in the NFL and I know abides in the spout out what the average NFL careers under four years yeah but what this guy. Plays 1012 years and say he's. 3435. That's above the enlistment age by the way in on top of that though. He could be all busted up of these played NFL football pro football for 1213 years he's not gonna be able to serve in a capacity that he would Henne just commodity academy. And I agree with that you don't click and what it looked at it locked up with a lot of bull here is that because it had to apply them you know. Acted quote rule. The proper chain of command in order to get that before and basically look again what. That is did what he brought the airport some language everybody. They'll no longer in the service academies and Luke on an individual basis. The tactical. Always the food chain. And it you know the military is designed that way you can have your food chain and I agree win. A lot of folks out there you know I would take out their right now what is this will affect the football program what I'm sorry. Actually stand you clearly do not understand. The purpose of military service academy it is not designed for athletics in designed to produce. Quality leader award. Her before I let you run no clue just talk about what you thought of the saints' draft call last Thursday Friday and Saturday. Do you like the draft an example that their candidate who. Around people yeah like talk on the computer grew a lot of clear this trapping I'm sure but you know what. They came out of that grappled what they need. I know people don't like the violent tactic that you actually could not getting any younger and eagle Sean Payton at all the annual meeting. Kind of soften the blow and kind of like look at the future when he says he want to commodity collapse. Will that young offensive linemen and the commander would rent check who a lot of prognosticators and look at those I know one or two at the offensive tackle position. Yeah. Mark strong letter war. Well I bet they look great conviction I think Hendrickson couldn't be in this deal of the graph and I absolutely love Marcus Williams the safety they selected their. In the second round. Are we always a pleasure man now let's get back to your he's Thursday evening human thanks. For sure. Either goes veteran of the united states army Herbie TOP former drill sergeant in the united states army joining weighing in and out the regular phones par. On line one year old W Google are. They Christian. Pictures or wrote about retired navy chief petty officer. Well thank you for your service. A guitar. And play general Guinean and these radical Serbs yet. The general policy of art beauty should be if you go to the service academy producer. But of occasions you know there should be ways. Special occasions that he hit earlier service. Can make an exception I don't ditto. What an important element decorators. And reserve any. It is easier time but it should out of an idiot which raiders were Ellie aren't so were perfect. Yeah Palin like David Robinson the politically aware that there Robinson's career Apple's going to be on sobering yeah. All. No way to Internet polls every service sobering note at. What is that agreement at Toronto the service academies that spoke acting MacCallum but. They don't know the answer I mean people often turn to. Them. They're the mission. The outlook I mean here's the thing. And I I get that there's been instances. But B you've been in our ye you know that. The military the very one of the bases. Of the rule the basics of the military the essence of the military is that they don't create. Everybody's equal. It's it's the one place in this world where everybody truly is equal and they don't create special circumstances nobody special in the military. And that's why for me I have a hard time going yet these players should be out of opted out of this obligation or. Coupled with a special creative circumstance allow them to serve. A part of either marine in me he says you know what it's it. He's the least change orders all the time it happens you know he's been through that maybe you know he gave an order than. An hour later it's gonna change or the middle of its gonna change in you know what you adapt beauties don't you know what that's part of it and I wanted to move on. Armed and I just don't like the notion the message he would sit in which is that hey. Because this guy is talented will gonna give him a bit of a break opposed to so there's a lot of people that tackled these serves academies. And it listed officer I enlisted natsios well that are extremely talented I mean I I hearken back I got a text the other day saying. Hey if you work in a four year listening in the Marines and you got a job offer from Debbie to do well wounded Marines of what you leave that an answer was emphatically had to go to the laughed at my face and I like coming in today. I don't only two and a half years into my enlistment. But Devin and wells offered me a really good gig at like to go take it big like yeah. Tell you'll be there in eighteen months when at the end of your enlistment and you know I mean. I don't know I just don't like the and I don't like the notion on the message that it says that they were willing to make special sacrifices for those that are ultra tell that because the military. It is very much better buys on playing I'll level plain dealer buys very equal. And we're gonna do what's best for the mission in for the book tune in for the company for the battalion. Not necessarily one individually well there. I completely agree and a lot of things going on the go during the last twenty years old I vehemently disagree with yeah. But you know he swallow her up there appear at the end of the day. Ago and I didn't know a little editor you that your fortunately in what they ought exceptions were all these global players. Yeah they don't think that the the other academies the other academies were or long. You know long since not allowing the players they took a local army agony it is CBS news update our local news headlines on polls that type of but he also got Greg bell coming your way next on Libya I welcome back it's just sports David Potter master control of the great job. Also thanks for the you know multiple lines well he can jump in 2601878687878. And Greg bell West Point graduate weighing in our latest cop caught up with him on Thursday to it was. Greg bell IG DR she PG bell Seattle on Twitter Seattle Seahawks beat writer for. The news Tribune not talking football necessarily today Greg he's also West Point Greg Greg appreciate you joining us on short notice meant. I'm good and I'm sure we saw these these these hot takes coming out. You know Monday and last week it setter with this. With the Serbs academy conversation now I'm sure you're like me having served eat you blood tends to boil a little bit. It'd. But. It does speak to me. It was assassinated since. Going to let one incident but I'm sure. On that to do it solid passing me at how big a role military plays about society so much then about it. How much a political conversation and how he goes and the fact we even that the an ancient and freedom. Yet our society has been very. Small understanding of what's actually held talks and went back out and the people cited cost a tradition. And I think that the function of being an all volunteer force urged that Israel has Corso. Not a lot more great culture so it will byproduct of that for people who just don't know don't realize. Mistreatment and service academies army or the Naval Academy Annapolis the troops to produce Williams who. Really the military and soup. There are sort of make good as. It's not the churn out and it's so player in. I think I know I don't think I've known including. Spoke to come by and much they understand that. And not one person. On one team of the service academy who expects go to the end though. Go into the certificate of appointment. We're usually up to an analyst with our government. Do you Mayweather to. And coach analyzed it planned to have watched him play. I was yeah my dad like that. Station up there from what was it I think he was. He owned channel with a high of 89 denying the for a 9489. And anything problem. Exactly and I don't know mom cook for company and yet Mayweather and Bob certainly lieutenant junior wanted Independence Bowl like Auburn and and the baby of army football and. It was my mind I think my dad was. He's tech loss from B one probably our on going memory here. But that. Stay tuned up for movement to cook to applicable. He was at no now he says F four he was F one the friars right I think that's what I heard it's gonna grow together. Hey Greg so when you hit when you see the notion what do you say what your counter to the notion of why can't these athletes like kids they go in play. For their teams and income back answer. I thought I'd like Sally Jenkins column in the Washington Post saying is that. We have two years and sort of answered the phone world and why is. The main reason is because like it that nobody. In the military academy planned to do that. Including our college football players. That are going to school and out of the officers their future officers who happened to public football. And an amendment on the McCollum and I wrote. Who's being recruited by. Yen or US you know has gotten them. Yet because the word. For their laughter when they get the when they get the invitation. What. Be. On the two. Men out there were no at all. Blue chip and oak prospect gonna wanna do that. Now need we military presence and our public pivotal point in the global company. That it indeed in the that the military service. The name David Robinson enemy urgent. Yet it's a good summer and oh my god. Public so that being inept that it. And good but even Serb on duty for at least a couple years after graduation and if this is this is. The military or not. In the pop culture win they're seeing. What the popular belief that time it is tradition accustomed. The one. Point five years ago. The taxpayers were paying an average 250000. Dollars per year look at that and the left. I was experiment no no. Naval Academy recruitment and where force or army couldn't let the way to go to school I couldn't get content like that increase can be clear. So that then that public dollars on the men and women could go be leaders. And now fulfill that commitment and I would be cool beyond our initial military commitment. And they look becoming another thoughtfully as well using the same training then cut at the service academy who lead in other walks of they are not football basketball okay cool. And couldn't. Taloqan factory. And they couldn't give it an actual Utley who is worthy of the end though it can handle current and made quarterback. Did it not the purpose of these and to conclude and grant those people. The media that consistently enough though. To make good money that way. That was the choice of those men and women made ordinary in oak knock it down that they've got a group that's my opinion and that in the army in. Then made in court policy at the most part book of yours. Ought to Greg bell at G bell Seattle onto it or Seattle Seahawks beat writer for the news Tribune more poorly West Point grad very calm very much qualified to talk on this topic in. Greg. We're what do you think of general Mattis is decision to cut the obligation nothing from five years back to to even I still I still have a little bit harper without. It's hit the facility. It is sort insure Oklahoma commencement of production mode. In the Clinton years and some depending on your specialty you could after year after two years. Again and it turns into an argument that what we're training you for spending public dollars line. That 200 it and I can't I don't know about you know 400000 dollars a year public cost and a commitment shipment could hear it through a service academy. I don't think mud and I don't think the American public taxpayer dollars are being monies were wrong to your commitments and for me because I don't mind about. In the second career. Bad. I'm against them into question I don't think it's patient well but it also speaks to the fact that. In the current environment. Post Iraq Afghanistan war we that urgently need for personnel and in officers and that changes instant. When I was an. When I was stationed at Fort Lewis Washington. Problems with four of those close because you know a little more anymore aren't really. Disclose. And that's it is potentially a world that the only place. And most of its listen treatment and that for a score and and Afghanistan Iraq and strength from socialist that is true. That's when. History shows that when government got a good lesson from them names and making maybe option. Tenure shorter. And talking and Korean news those options in the column that can stand and TDs and a commitment. Greg Keegan hung up on the amount it cost from the taxpayers. On and on to you know for for cadets at these academies and that net that. Right there is maybe he. Single most thing that you you can hang your hat on too with his argument of the outlook. If if if the taxpayers paying two of the 2000 dollar for 1000 whatever is now for each net per year. Think about that and yet dasher Selma is as a taxpayer. They look are you didn't mean to return for that and if if if the NFL these academies allow the NFL these these players ago the NFL I think that's a it's a great point Greg bell at G bell Seattle on tour Seattle Seahawks beat writer for. The new Tribune also. Graduate of West Point appreciate the time Greg. Bill Clinton back here and thank you for Butler. It seemed to use as well. It's nearly enough we crossed paths that no it but that was stationed at there was one seat and I used cadet rebels Tibetan proud graduate of the as a military academy simply come back bullets or open a final four twos until late 768787. Inches sports at W Davila had a good conversation. About military service academy should they go to the pros. Straight out of graduation or should Fserve. There commitment first the text here from 35 point four. I can't disagree with L anymore at the kids knew they were really that are not the play the NFL. They wouldn't be go at the academy I'll keep saying the academy is not for athletics well neither our regular colleges the first priorities education and knowing it's man. When a player leaves early to go to the NFL those guys are in the academy and a very Smart not to and we pick apart this argument they can always. It degree corporate job that athletes only have a small window at a place sports I served in the army at port bright years go I understand military if they don't wanna. Be about athletics and they'll play the NCAA. It's all about the money got a little bit conjured contradictory there but they go back to what you said about. People it appears. The education in the first priorities education and every other colleges now like the military where it. Now you'll crawl from beaches. You'd think that those players that are going to Alabama. You go to LA issue go into Ohio State those football players you think they're going there shall. On the express purpose that there kitten there they're trying to get educated no it that pipeline approve the pipeline. The National Football League look LSU it's no coincidence LSU leads the NFL. Employers in the leak Alabama's. There along the Ohio State they're not cute don't don't be delusional there heavy scene Jon Kyl. There's a vast difference between the likes of Alabama LSU in the united states military camp. Those kids are going to Alabama because nick Sabin. Has the opportunity will give them the opportunity to play the National Football League level seeping in LSU Auburn in the other SEC school Florida State Michigan. Ohio State unique at USC. They're going there because that's a pipeline they understand it that's their path. The NFL the service academy guys are not joining. Go play in the NFL their chew when he'd become highly educated in great leaders of the military that's their first obligation if it's now. And to say that it's like any other college yet we like to think education is the top priority but these cases it's not he can break the ice that political battle wrap up next here on W well I couple text nearly 77 as of the. 1130 to have a really good conversation back and forth but him really in east and it just suggests he or she sees me. Suggests that if the Chilean maybe they can pay back the tuition. That still isn't exactly what they signed up for I mean everybody else signed up that they'll serve their country and to be leaders of men and women as officers but. If that were the case what happens if and what happens if this is a player. Average NFL careers just under four years right but what happens if this. Guy. Goes and plays in the pros for a year blows ACL and I'll likely he's no longer going to be serviceable. To. To serve on active duty at that point. I had a shoulder reconstruction Dorsey and in my four year Lisbon in house not employable for a year. The last year and a half I was in the Marines. Usually have a yet ACL injury you're not going to be able to do the things that are going to be asked of you in the military anyway and in particular. A lot of these players. Ended up having 4000 dollars a year I know that sounds odd when you see guys like increased operating others that are making millions of Monday's bombings of dollars. You really a year out those of the elite players but is no guarantee that these guys are going to be you those in the players are LSU baseball come up today at 2 o'clock right here on W bill game three yet. Rubber match between South Carolina let's go tigers David Potter master control thanks much for your help also got involved with us. All the text line and 87 eights of telephones it is still one except me certainly love the interaction I have right to the rescue Saudi threat Jazz Fest have fought simplify I'm out.