Aug 20, 2010|
Tommy's in for Garland, and he's speaking with Tommy Svitanovich, owner of Drago's, John Tesvich, President of the Louisiana Oyster Dealers and Growers Association, and John Supan, Associate Research Professor at LSU, about Louisiana oysters.
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-- Garland is off to them Tommy Tucker Manning the think tank for him and we got a very interesting show planned for you we're gonna start by talking. About oysters. And I don't know that we can have a more distinguished roundtable then we'd do Thomas candidate John and drug goes I untallied. New environment you go -- I -- Good sir thanks and taken the time when this. John test bitch. He's with the present Louisiana oyster dealers and grows association Alito and John. They're gonna -- him doing fine how are you good thank you taking the time when listening John Superman who is. An associate research professor at L -- director of the C grand five bell pantry on grand -- and their creator all. Would it be appropriate to say super oyster or not John. Now I would column people oysters secured eternity from the bottom naked beaten by -- -- them black -- like everything else. Okay -- -- colleague Dave fresh water or -- resistant oyster you would be -- either they'll try app like everything else -- I'll maybe we should ask you for what we should call and then. Where there they are they out they're special breach. A special breed of oyster okay. And we're in a visit to be oyster when no one really because we're gonna talk about. Basically I know the life cycle of the oyster and how that relates to the oil spill it what it means to the oyster industry. Moving forward so I guess John let's start with you. -- it was a news story out that talked about these new. Kind of oysters that you develop Dan -- they handled the oil spills I guess we'll start with you go ahead. Well beef oysters are it's really technology trying to guess first John does little about yourself you Europe biologists and knowledge you. Well before factor there yeah I've been at LSU for 27 years I've been now managing and directing the hatchery here yeah. I'm going doll for twenty years and I've been secretary treasurer of the same association that John the president up to twice that in -- So while I'm very very -- know your with the need the oyster industry -- leader researcher need to not been studying and working on. On a breeding program for oysters and in cooperation with other. Ali the mind you really -- the pioneers of what I'm doing I'm -- I'm transferring technology basically. That's what -- -- -- this year is we've made a a a research. Bold but that we desperately needed to get fifth in the commercialization. Should really make an impact for the industry and -- restaurant -- like army and and but. We were very challenged by the oil -- because basically we were able to conduct any of our search this year other than one major responding and that's bonding which. It out I was quoted in the AP and though. Article I compare that bombing the most important voice responding in the Gulf of Mexico history -- because they produce that's a very special very thought. And we needed that for a stop to make these that special breed of oyster got a brief stop at -- that the crime itself. Everything -- in nature generally speaking as he kept from them one from the mother -- from the father -- like that of course. Oysters at the same way and our traditional issues that we grow that fleet Garland slot here in Louisiana and across felt that if -- around the world. Are sketchy but the cram them the most the cockpit voice and take you through your high profile here. And deploy beyond me -- so that deployed. That's the chromosome condition called -- what week -- week we were able to treat this this -- stoplight to have forced that the crime itself. As a cult got deployed dropped it three. But debris now that's employees will spawn just like -- exploits well I am and what we predict. I you can crop that deployed with -- deployed to make more exploits but yet deployed will never be seen in the marketplace and oyster grower farmer will never grow -- -- deployed. So the -- hatchery don't like. The value of that is that when you coffin was deployed the offspring of pure trip -- TI mean streak that concept. That makes that electors actually still. So it -- that the winner I'm like followers you're still do but when warm water when that's when the spring time comes in the water start to warm and oysters spawn. Mean -- make go from Chanderpaul pipe found afford five -- Took quite -- box. So they battle some are wrong and that he -- -- great potential for this spring and summer crop for the industry's switch to what we know start decline in -- -- I know I'm gonna warn everybody. Especially since Stenavich because I know you can -- trouble on this -- but we're gonna discuss this mature rated mature early in no snickering okay. Thumb when it comes to the reproduction of oysters. A lot of people don't know how oysters reproduce I don't know how they do that. Did they seem like. Rocks that just kinda sit their son and run. How how dealers. -- -- properly each other while they're in the water to open. Santana bitch I warned you took a look at okay. Now don't make me ask you leave the classroom because I -- but really John people and I don't understand college -- produces and a it didn't take your local water -- happen. It is an M okay we're -- the lobby animal OK and so you know and as any animal when it reproduces it -- -- to Islam. Eat in this and invoices take some farmer right and -- by camel case that the females in a pretty bag them up from the cities are. Now in America. Our our craft posture energetic guy that genus and species of the gulf and east and the gulf oyster in the East Coast oyster it on external. So a beat when water temperatures warm up that the mail. Generally start filing first -- -- arm there's a fair amount Eric smell underwater that that this female that the late start releasing the day. The egg and sperm fertilized in the water column and that I concurrent take those fake they become floating larvae winning winning larvae. So you can't release this in the water right they released up into the water cult melts the bit that was being call a mail collect the milk okay. Kennedy anti -- men don't like. It looks right at this time they don't harvest any oysters. Well well as soon as not to disrupt this or not what well. But that fact ominous but that's continue -- and builders have been questions yeah. -- -- -- -- Some people still enjoy them but you know others you know favorite all -- with which it is generally after this point these. The reason I ask is because I would think you would money get in the way of that process because you would want as much. Of these two things two to unite and then there's this bucolic -- writing a note to colleagues things. -- -- a lot of -- with a lot of east wind around in the water column and they feed on by the plank from her third microscopic LP for about U three weeks. And while she and then they predict to -- and collect its mail on the fence -- aid purposes hard but straight. Drew took and then they'll flip over and cement down with a cement client and they become a fact until they've become so once we all know about. And job. And a -- point two harvesting takes about three years is that right. But New -- there was no optimal conditions aren't untraditional you know grow up methods about two years -- right thank you -- So so -- and and and John mentioned about a month the bar so that's true and in his back but it really that whole that whole arm. Story comes from the European alleged. The European -- but -- go with the European final eastern those that grounding Croatia. Where where jogging Tommy Erica just -- They are what we call market -- they burn very young inside that they're deal cavity. So eighteen and then he released it after awhile. So they're they're birders so if you were they eat any raw European finally here in the summer -- They'll be ready because what you cheering honored microscopic -- to have their own individual shall. In in America off when quote America was this. Discovered the Europeans brought back with that baby eat oysters Vermont what -- without an odd because -- were -- Because they were hurting their -- you. I think America all oysters are strong spotters. They're not they don't worry they're young and guilt chamber like what we European travelers it's been productive originally where that thing came from. Got you so let's pause here in big double we come back some that's the way through dumb. Natural oysters that they do replicate so -- -- -- -- traditional oysters. Where I could always here's an actual change. It should do a breeding program Gary being Gary and faith that are -- what people want announced she would consider natural about. That's the result of breeding program there's you know the corn -- today -- not -- the pilgrims are -- by the Indians to grow. And the -- we did -- not theory that book group throughout the overpopulated. Right so it's all narrow this this now it's all natural. Well let's talk about I guess those oysters are in the wild and these would be more farmed would that be accurate book are yep well welcome brunt of wild wild traditional versus. Our hatchery and and breakfast I will clear that up when we come back -- interesting Ed conversation I think because I know most of us go to places like drug goes and we. -- places and we enjoy humble no way to come from. And this is an important conversation because it goes to what happened with the BP oil spill how fresh water could be more damaging then the the oil and where we go from here in a phone lines are open if you have any questions on this will take him and working phone calls and as well as my idiotic comments a 2601870. Toll free 866889087. Thomas is an image John's message. And John suppan is that Greg Johnson banners and panda bear it then -- Johnson -- -- Iowa Greg Beck talking oysters Tommy Tucker and for Garland Robinette on the big 870 -- WL. Tommy and for Garland they talking about oysters and it was in April of 1937. When then mayor Robert main street turns to the president of the United States Franklin Roosevelt. And ones restaurant and says I like them very steers. Kind of famous moment new -- history in the history. The oyster industry could be changed as a result of the something that John soup and is developing he is a an associate research professor Ellis you director of the C grand by bell pantry on -- down -- test which is with a Solso. His present Louisiana oyster dealers and growers association and Tommy Stenavich everybody knows him. The other tribe goes to John we had pretty well covered than the my choice is doing a wild. Away when the when no humans or involves the tell me what it is that your work and on. Well at the hatchery were able to. Two accommodate oysters with the appropriate. Growing conditions where we can bomb them under controlled conditions. And collect the eggs sperm and Greer that'll resulting larvae in tanks and feed them -- -- a very special side it's been. Adopters search over the decades and we contribute -- but these are. At the hatchery and we can get them to a point where they're ready it's the man on the thumping as well. We can get -- them up for the middle wet handkerchief or or or Brett got paper challenge shipping anywhere. Utilized to grow our -- wake them. He can fake bomb unwrapped then let him warmup or form in the pocket of good -- water. And pour -- -- -- -- -- eleventh actually go right back on the leases we produce oysters. So we can do that we have a brainy project with -- -- Katrina money we perceive that we dollar grant from -- apart while -- finish Rican day. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- So where people can will be able to use the -- the product that the hatchery in a location other than here -- Rijndael. Should be able to make battled shell. Now. The beauty that trouble with growing trip like that way is is it's like keep taking your prize. You price apple releasing a mile walk on the air space. -- you lose a lot controller for that but back to -- traditional way -- at ground. They challenge isn't it improved growing conditions for trip Floyd's neck off bottom culture where just nearly every way street for a while you get back. He hit nearly -- of survival dependent on that site. And doubt about it creates a lot of challenges and it creates a lot of explaining that the very idea that so but -- it's going if it's started on that plane profit. And then -- losers are sterile they cannot reproduce it -- -- get through his surrogates traditional deploy their traditional oysters here. But the theater hot streak eight we offer that valued at that could leave -- -- voices call Obama. It's a microscopic art -- and it was discovered in brain power authority its ubiquitous across the gulf. It can't cause severe mortality oysters during dry years. Or -- -- right now certainly that's not the case. But we have my colleague doctor Jerome Perry Ellis united develop it these these big German it was that the oyster. And that's what you can do and hatchery to breeding program. We went out we found these oysters that that we're surviving in high where the areas that -- know what the reason why would they be providing here. And what we get -- we've looked Adam. Jerome affair with the first one ever the culture -- and accept it. And -- bend in what we did -- he challenged these subsequent generations oysters high concentrations of -- out here in grand isle and at a laboratory. And what we now have a big in these -- system for its stock and we can thought that predate those Barbie cash and provide those orders from and it's well. So so how actually really allowed to take advantage reading program that that occur -- -- So disease resistant more than 151000 cubic feet per second of river water was released. Over and under through the levees -- try to flush out the oil from the BP oil catastrophe. What about these oysters that. You developed in terms of who do fresh water resistant and also I guess when it comes to oil. We'll put off our water resistant pay if they are both the low as zero point -- -- G three weeks -- thought it. OK Susan earning your between the lower the Lenny -- perspective these out because that is even generally considered a high -- -- me. So in oyster and a wild -- has not been in any way he the touched by human hands in the oyster that your. Developing in the lamp or at least breeding in the lab. Any difference in terms of salinity. Resistance is so low blows gonna be not none are not. So the only big differences. -- like it is that we we correct -- correct quality characteristic and so the only difference would be. More of -- resistance to bacteria certain bacteria. Well. They'd be more resistance should be good but -- these propagate in the -- which is really part of our red zone not a bacteria. Yes I'm back here and that these were talking about or make clear view that this adds nothing to do with public -- right it's because these oysters and it and that's no effect acumen whatsoever. And the advantage to the only eastern men would be. If they were -- naked Barbie is even this the -- or what we call oh boy. But quite bizarre it dark lineage designation because we got them from wasted by -- in Cameron parish. If you were to ghetto boy Garvey promised and about a month shell matter at what will be our new facility at. But errors. And played them on the relief food if displayed your machine determine more where will return to more normal and if we have a dry year dharma becomes public. These villages will be able to survive that bad. And reach market by brother -- should make it comes as a group they and is there -- difference in time from spent to market with yours but none. Well well if he's grown up on the bottom there's no difference because it growing conditions but the same. All right however we can't if we broke oysters are bottom and we have our oyster farm here in -- I'll what we have not -- culture that's been. Archie evaluate all that we can talk to grow up on -- See we do know we can go from a microscopic eggs. A market -- -- one year. I we talk about cost to return about taste because that is with the ultimate the importance of the consumer going come back we'll talk to. -- done and Tommy about the fishermen aspect of this and also about the restaurant. -- this when we come back in just in conversation about oysters you're welcome to chime in at 26018 -- any toll free 866. 889087. Right now the time for -- WL first news and for that we're gonna Chris Miller Tommy Tucker and for Garland prominence and -- a think tank we're talking about oysters and -- -- image one of our guests. Calls the char grilled oysters and his restaurant. There's char broiled actually the single best bite of food you're gonna find in Louisiana and I think he's right and we're talking about the oysters that are. Duval ended developer John Superman -- I don't want -- to fall below are my words here but I don't wanna make it seem like you're doing something little lamb that's not accurate either would be the accurate terminology. Develop the breeding program with other colleagues around the country but it's not like you do anything in a land it's all man -- you're just kind. Helping the press is on -- analogy to a farm animals that people can understand perhaps. Well. You know what you're gonna have legs I -- but that's. It's gotten. We -- -- -- in March exports. Architects our our out of the outdoors and away we're underneath the building at the new Louisiana department while it's street. Fisheries laboratory which we operated our own site. Under no both Chad referred nearly twenty years but here on grant college they got hammered by Katrina got hammered back up off. Should it Monday when the -- department invited up to. He joined them here at the new lab we we graciously accepted that it's a wonderful facility. They actually setup downstairs underneath the main building. We -- all we draw -- common knowledge they water we have a very sophisticated filtration -- and were growing algae defeat Velarde in the Al is I like -- -- And you wanna keep the week out so far filtration system has the ability to take it take state water make it crystal clear bacteria free. So to be analogous to instead of free range. Can only its catalytic grown on Rayon arrange though raised -- ranch. Well -- well the capital without a doubt she'd pertains more to what John that it's an oyster growers do. This bit about -- analogy is that would be like. Would be like a farmer and -- crop farmer. -- -- hide your feet company and ordering that -- -- beat Purdue is growing conditions. Or it would be like -- I cattlemen calling up a they they they. They companies that fit with ultra both sperm. And that -- has won a war that at that cattlemen's shows spurred pedigree in in and and in unique quality and bill then and and growth and performance. And they can -- that -- would call -- the company indifferent to bolt formed intimidate the hell that's what it's more now I've -- actually more analogous. Guy -- said that oysters don't have legs but if they did. -- is the damage would find a way to char -- loving -- NN. I don't think it's great search challenge that the problem with the Mexican being picked up -- -- -- -- -- Tommy what about these lewis' heavy tea cinnamon is there a difference or not. No I have not very good amount -- everything that I've heard and been very very little about these things. And like John deferential to earlier you know its -- lemonade the question later on everything -- as big these things start come on the market. Are your -- no yeah I mean every summer in million 1000000 June. -- that's a question that we give out our quiz them are fairly regularly enough good next question you get all the time -- Because of the to a torrent spawning people -- oysters they end up and to not get skinny like dump those well. -- and -- so it will eliminate their quest for -- or are they know you are they any and it's gonna give up an opportunity. What do you put Nordstrom and gumbo or private portal is a ball boy or -- or limit you you know it's not gonna shrink up as much as that goes when -- -- have that problem in the summer of constant challenge for us. This time a year to get that we're experts are char broil. Not so that's gonna help eliminate that problem for us. And one concern that you have obviously is a business owners the cost of this is. And it Jon Tester just ritual where you went in at this point after. Oyster farmers -- what about the cost of this is a -- a lot more expensive than the traditional way of producing oysters and well. Well first thought Tommy. That the Louisiana oyster industry you know probably supports. John resurgent technology. We've had you know long association with John and and the research lab. So this is not a competitive thing this is a complimentary things. Know that its Vista they'll issue a grant and is this called this technology is -- is being done to help benefit. The the industries you know that there's a restaurant trade in and everything associated with Louisiana oysters. So this you know is is really. He has the technology right now we're looking at helping him transferred out into the actual car commercial sphere. And that's what they're our next step will be to to create this the remote settings. Plant in in the -- are we have some fun to do that where we can actually take his larvae. From from the lab whether it be that the traditional because deployed oyster for the trip Floyd they're they're deployed -- that always fat. And put it in the tank and put it on our shelves. Point two men are constantly planting shelled and in limestone. Crushed concrete and those kind of items and took -- plant in feed their bed. Well in this system will be able to actually that young oysters on that culture. That which which show what you called the shell and in the rocket complete plant you can -- the -- little moisture on the culture before you planted in the water. So -- you have you have the the knowledge that you already have always drawn their you don't have to depend on the wild that. To want to attach to your shelf. Some -- Some years we'll have a great natural that some years we don't have a natural. At all so. There -- a lot of things that using the technology we can start controlling. The they cultivation of oysters. That would be a tremendous benefit there at the cost associated with the so you're talking about more labor. You know -- actually setting up these tanks. And putting the this show in the tank and taken them out it's because. About hand knowing that all this material. That's the biggest the biggest challenge is looking at no cost and how it I would add up in the end community in which a final product. And both Johnson Tommy didn't -- in spite of everything we've spoken about the last forty minutes I found it did just think maybe. Some people live their eyes glaze over at this point but. Maybe eight all they're concerned about is gone in the drug goes either in Metairie or downtown at the Hilton -- a -- I wanna know is. By the choice is going to be there what are they get a taste like and how much is it gonna cost so bottom line on all of this. To the consumer what does it mean does it mean that they'll have. A better supply of oysters throughout the year they're gonna. Maybe taste a little bit better they could supply will be more consistent. Or -- and that there might have to pay a little bit more form whoever wants to jump in here what do you tell me what. They consume from all of this what's it gonna mean to the consumer bottom well. Took to the consumer is it is just to note that the industry is working hard -- were working together to develop new and better informed of what's better ways to raise them. Off it's not necessarily going to cost more that was when we should have more consistent who want to -- oyster industry. -- wanna be able to -- more history than it wouldn't sell more volume. We could do it at a lower cost. So if it is all about. You know up about making making the system worked and and have it. Where where it's cost effective. And to do that not to apply this technology. Does require changes in our regulatory structure our state is not -- not approve it this form of grow up on a commercial scale. And we have to do that through this state we have to work through the legislature and department wallet fisheries. To do that and I think once we do that and then we're we're looking to do that on their -- right. On a pilot. Forma basis. Once we get that going I think at the demonstration project. There will that others will see big commercial potential and then we can start expanding. Using this technology and into the the water market. So it's not legal -- -- It's it's that they -- backed off bottom culture. If not. Legal person that. All that the state has been permeating. Structure in the water column for decades that the outgoing gap but for. So if he's the -- it's equipped with art it's just another way of looking at things another way of thinking about things. And John up in -- has they'd tell us what. Yeah how to difficult is gonna be to get over that hurdle do you think -- you handle more of the the politics of this I would welcome you know. We we. We will have to work with outlook our state representative than in the governor's office and and you know took a look at areas that this could possibly. Be implemented. There will probably certain areas where we would we would establish off awful call to park. That's what does John Toobin proposing and and -- when we're working with him on that so. We don't have the legislation and regulatory framework right now. But -- we are going to propose this you know to truth to the states. And so hopefully we will get support for those so that -- industry will have. An option to develop. Could develop a more. More no more joy to crop in other areas that they're not able to right now. And -- has major guys are on board with this. Oh yeah of the industry's support this but it did this is not commercial get. So. We all we are supporting it and we don't where we're trying to wait to get their further development love it. And this is something that would help the industry come back from this BP oil. Disaster. Saw -- album come back more quickly it's one it's one of the one of the main that there were looking at. This could all long term investment. In the oil industry and we we hope to stake its own board -- is something that -- -- do more immediately. Because we still have areas that are. Quote I let's talk about them when we come back okay and also Thomas tenements or talk to you about how the availability of oysters and how would deal we are day. 123 of that oil catastrophe 88 of the drilling 85 revenues drilling moratorium wanna find out. Now what it's -- your restaurant anywhere where you stand today with oyster availability right. So they're Tommy got earlier aspect might have been labeled in some places in the back got to know. You're -- world but no one had just who I know you get ready to go but. Good the process who is not illegal it's just not a -- yet so before it goes into the market it needs to be approved it's not something that -- -- to another few legal. Right just hasn't been approved chip ever gonna prove they avoid yet they get a clarification. How we'll be right back -- Stenavich Jon -- John soup and our guest. The -- also take your calls a T 601870. Toll free. 866889087. Tommy Tucker and for Garland on the big 870 double WLX. Johnny -- Garland on the big 87 EWL a think tank we are busier today than drive goes on Good Friday. -- traffic and everything else just a couple minutes left Tommy -- wasn't -- -- as far as your restaurant goes whatever is the availability of oysters bin. The sense -- of the wells been camp hasn't gotten any better have you ever been out of oysters. Yeah and what you have 400 point three days of the -- go. I've only had three ships where we have not had oysters well in both of our restaurants so you know we've done pretty well. You know. Been able to go -- because they used a lot of voice proof read your of their little bit smaller -- -- it's a lot more difficult. We you know we don't have a cooler full voice driven it's a David very. Good deal I gotta tell your your area five to -- -- -- but I. Actually day before yesterday. And which the Breton sound barrier and today I got my first stories just from where they're much much nicer than what we've been haven't I don't. I definitely feel that we've made the turn. The oyster industry is definitely coming back. Go to the freshwater. Although it did a great job treat them all the oil off our coast -- are surely aren't. Europe could hurt. That could divert our product but yards built are economic like. Be very popular I think we're gonna are recovered are going to be -- You're gonna conflict on carpets and I've got to -- they're better. Still working to make. Your make this transition. A little bit better and hopefully go to recovery won't be as bad as that quote you're after Katrina. But you have back with both guys are talking about about -- about this apple culture appears -- you know. Isn't -- apple culture of seafood industry it's not new I -- you know although it's different I mean we know a former aide -- fish we have -- trip in the beginning these these items were very very expensive. But I had the payment to the marketplace grab a couple of -- took place. Durbin thank god you're here to got more affordable and larger point here -- -- record but then you anything but that's probably used to rank -- -- to you -- all your pro yeah all of these. So we're gonna give that fish today get out so it's not something the -- -- -- -- -- one eyed monster that Gutierrez great Lugar and Durbin the laws -- in moving forward in the future. You're making you're making our products that we hear that we've -- to the consumer better. In terms of public perception now I would choices you've been able to sell everything you get. Oh absolutely I mean there are allowed back -- enough and built the department. People think Kirk got everybody's out of oysters there in the near the supply you are the are definitely down and there are a lot of places -- don't have -- so your -- that we got our restaurant. I'm not gotten calls you don't people who say I'm get a call. Do you have boisterous do you have current. You know are you serve and are you open folder called the -- you're not getting listed below it is -- that -- -- -- -- you're of their problem there are people who felt that what we're -- so. Very optimistic. Very good Jon Tester it's thirty seconds left anyone and. Yeah I thought I would like to reiterate what what what Tommy if you know the oysters are far great we are about to turn a corner it will take. Go a little more time as you know as we get over the BP's still there's still vote. There aren't rigged back boys -- they're working on the on this bill. But how we expect you know by September -- October you're you've been keeping coming back again and hopefully we can rebuild. What was lost in and be stronger and in the years ahead. I hope so is all of them nurses here they yell very much time is the damaged contest agent John Superman very interesting in we'll talk yelling and on line. All right thank god he got -- night we'll be right back Tommy -- -- for Garland -- big 870 WL tummy -- -- for Garland Robinette let me tell you what's gonna happen next hour there is they Newsweek survey that is out pretty down. Complicated set of parameters that they use to determine -- -- countries the best countries to live Eminem might surprise you where the United States came in. And I'll leave it at this and fill in the details when we come back we didn't even make the top ten. And I'll tell you is ahead of us and I'll see if you think that's right or not. United States not even in the top ten -- best countries in the world within which to live. Same -- that's right or not. So some interesting conversation coming up on the old think tank Tommy Tucker -- in -- at lunchtime on Friday glad you're part of it. Elegy to call NN discussed this with me when we return on the big 878 -- WL.