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Spud talks about President Obama bringing troops home and takes listeners phone calls.

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Creates this spot shallow talk go -- -- look -- some spice to the conversation golf rival -- 26018784866889087. -- WW -- skimming -- and this putts there one hot potato times blood McConnell yeah. Come out exactly. Yesterday after the. It's recorded every day because you in the Somalia. All of the show here by going off. Our website and clicking on all our faces and downloading podcasts and shows would not say. -- again that ailment that is my Almonte you can remember. My Omar's too little joke cattle on the Otto who and independent studios has been making movies before America meets him anyway and -- And -- just a little more loud and rambunctious. Thanks for joining us today to six only seven is the number here 866889. Early seventy are told reliant we got this new text thing going mates emanates Eminem notes. I left garlands -- opinion poll out there. This is a WW dot com up ready opinion poll as president Obama's plan to withdraw from -- in Afghanistan too slow to faster just right. 33130. Thank him that is just right two point forcing too -- forty forcing tuzla. You read across the board. A different. Comments about different things Hamid Karzai the president danced and he's happy with the -- thank you get out email money again now. One of the questions I wanna -- not is beside the opinion poll is what should we do with the money. This is from the New York Times couple days ago. Cost of wars are rising issue as Obama weighs troop levels this couple days ago and cannot. And on the 21. And one Nazi one point three trillion dollars in spending on wars in the past decade one point three trillion dollars on both the war spent. They the president met with a the United States conference of mayors. And their comments. His critics and allies alike are drawing a direct line between what is not being spent to bolster the sagging economy in America. To what is being and have spent in Afghanistan 120 billion dollars. This year alone and that -- 120 billion in Afghan alone but I mean one point three trillion dollars in global war over the last decade. They want the money spent on job creation. We have the stimulus that -- 800 some odd billion dollars. And reports a news reports operating about that is there's actually one point nine million jobs less than their word before the trip the stimulus money was spent. -- My talk about is these mayors want more the money spent to actually. Encourage job creation. I I think they should just write it off strike off strike off the budget that's a 120. Billion dollars a year. Take take them off of the budget take off that's money we don't need to raise money we don't need to borrow money we know no longer will spend if we don't. So keep the wars going on over there. That's what I think because we're in a position. Where look look what's happening in just heard the news the that talks about reducing the debt. The that Republicans walked out because the the Democrat leadership the senator Joseph -- vice president Joseph Biden. Is. Is leading this conversation and they refused to take big tax -- this off of the table. I'm not sure that it took I don't think you -- be able to get away with reducing the deficit. By not adding taxes I'm not sure what they will be an amateur -- gotten more money to -- But the fact is if I. Regardless of what -- -- decide about whether we got to raise taxes to reduce the deficit this is a 120. Billion dollars a year that -- that we have been spending on these two wars. Lots of lessons learned from these wars. Some people's whenever sort of got into -- -- begin -- others are saying okay nation building on the one of those. We went over the air to achieve an objective of taking out the Taliban leadership and Afghanistan we spread into Iraq. Are unconcerned when they found the spider when they found Saddam Hussein of our. They toppled the Taliban leadership in Afghanistan about. We cannot afford to do nation building. We're not any good at it because they only nation we can build is our own -- camp or somebody else was nation like that anonymous the right now them from doing that too. But as far as I'm concerned as they withdraw the troops. And their mission over there is no longer necessary that doesn't mean you take that money and spend it somewhere else that means we don't have to spend that money anymore. That means you don't have to talk about raising taxes. Or borrowing to achieve a 120 billion dollars a year. I'm I'm no economist but as far as I'm concerned. Scratch that off of that annual budget. And scratch that off of the debt we don't that's money we don't you when I don't have to kick in from our pockets. And that's money that we don't have to go borrow and sell treasury bonds for -- debt to other nations for scratch that off. Don't don't bring -- 120 billion dollar -- if you if you're gonna bring troops home. And still continue to spend money than continue to spend the money on those troops up their benefits put him on the border. Some like that but 120 billion dollars a year that's one of the things we're talking about -- how we gonna reduce our debt reduce reduce our deficit. And I say to scratch run off the top. 267866. -- ninth 087 or toll from a what do you think. And -- and what do you think about operating opinion -- to right now 44% of you saying it's the president's plan to withdraw from Afghanistan is too slow. 33% BC is just right 24% say it's too fast I have heard General Petraeus. Read reports about his comments but that is too fast. Lol. Pomp. John McCain and John Kerry Senator McCain and Senator Kerry who -- Poehler when it comes to political ideology or getting together and and coming up with. Plan themselves a resolution in the senate for for the withdrawal of troops and the and the changing of how we do war against. McCain is saying that we need one or two more good fighting season and right now I think. I mean. Is that the fighting season now summertime as the fighting season they are there in the northern. Hemisphere and thumbing their there in the middle of finding season now now or not they think not be the time to withdraw the troops. Again do a General David Petraeus who had the success. In Iraq with the surge and asked for and received a so he asked for like between 4050000. Troops parliament correctly. The president thought it over gave him 33. And they have here he's very very happy with the results. Of those troops are -- troop surge and stuff he was able to do. Bottomless and a different people discuss. The successes there. What was like guys he's a military advisor it was a you know fox C unanimous -- switching back and forth between both them. Talking about how many different. How many different. How many a total of provinces there are in Afghanistan and how many of me Mexican -- it's like 10%. I mean it's like. 280 or 290 and we controlled twelve -- organized numbers right -- so we basically have control and have kicked the Taliban out of 10% of the provinces in Afghanistan. But everybody -- sand point blank. That in those provinces there they've they've pretty much annihilated the Taliban and look and reports it is only like maybe 75 or eighty. Members of the Taliban in that hole in that whole law group -- provinces they control. The majority of them or or on the border Pakistan and we don't control those provinces and and the problem now more than anything it's going to be in Pakistan. So we're gonna go to war went down. You hear you hear the the secretary of state Hillary Clinton -- gonna you know normalize our relationship and yet. There's -- news reports coming out that the very people who helped us. Identify and isolate. Osama bin Laden in Pakistan. And one of them was a major in their military. They've actually been arrested. For giving that information to -- -- I mean it's a it's a huge juggling act over the -- that frankly. I don't know it's a quagmire. So. That's our first thing in a pot widow live out here pretty simple number one are pretty opinion pulled Adobe revealed icon is president Obama's plan to withdraw from Afghanistan to slow. Too fast just right. 32% of you saying it's just right 24%. Saying it's -- fans. 44% of you saying it's too slow this is a non scientific poll is just your opinion our listeners of the second thing is. Once we do withdrawal. And if we've been spent and 120 billion dollars a year on these two wars. What do we do -- that money. And I mean it's not like that's a problem money that you go get a 120 bill and you send it someplace they have to get an in Texas they have to get -- selling treasuries. They have to get it from borrowing or selling treasuries. I say. Don't take and spend another 120 billion dollars a year trying to generate -- get out of businesses way take your car off the top and let them create work. And take that 120 billion dollars a year. Off the table it is now no longer a part of the budget. And I know somebody's gonna call and tell me while the -- and you know the military spending they have the military budget and then they have the war. On budget that's passed separately it's not part of the department offense budget amendment. It don't matter it's still money that you and I and borrowed money has to pay for. So instead of spending an extra 120 billion dollars a year more -- a possible. Jobs building thing when it when I read and read reports that 800 billion dollars in stimulus money we have almost two million jobs less than we started with. I say scratch that 120 billion dollars a year ride out a -- it doesn't exist anymore. Right to six point seven is number here 866889. Steroids seventieth. And hear from you and get a cup -- -- -- back -- -- and so -- X 7866889087. Or toll for -- 870 -- and text messages coming element go to those in the second. We're talking about the president's speech last night about his plans to withdraw troops from Afghanistan. Did you go far enough to go too far. As it just to -- operating opinion poll WW dot com. That's that's the question it is just right to masters slow. 32% of saint just right 24%. Plan to finance 44%. And too slow and my other question is we spending. From corn to New York Times 120 billion dollars a year this year alone is gonna speech that almost -- one point three trillion dollars. Spending on two wars in the past decade. What should we do with the money the council of bishops and opposition United States conference of mayors. A met with the president and asked him to spend that money on on a possible job growth. And I'd say no I don't spend it at all take it right off the debt we have to reduce aren't yet. I mean there's that they're talking about debt reduction right now what are we unit. I say don't spend it at all. Don't just take it right off the amount of money that we actually need basket -- phones. Mike up Tancredo Mike and a. I record that exact -- off topic is pretty well well thought out -- out you ought. I think -- good right yeah it may be a little short you know we got you bet -- the air over the years. The walked out you know what they're still don't doubt and it all -- them. You know the -- every -- -- evidence that those guys like roaches you know -- -- one problem. You have to worry about it out talking about. Well you know what they're saying 75200. -- there but they only control tempers and the country I don't think they have an accurate count. All of what's up on the border with Pakistan because they don't control what do. You do. Yeah yeah it does not go to -- now. What used to do them. Fight it out. Right back up. This just scratch it right off the expenditure list. The that's -- -- economy goal like you are we need government away led by sector. You're accurate about spectacle not right now. Because involving the indecision is not at all what that up and already this -- health care -- still. Back out there we don't know that -- reports that while they elect. I think it's going to be a monstrosity. Bob their dispute as much I look for. The group that. Yeah the banking type combat. Solid economic but what is the what do you wanna give it up and what the government give it back in the and now. Yeah. Yet I mean we're we borrowed too much I mean the latest figures and and I haven't had anybody and so while tomatoes but is still between forty and 43 cents for every dollar and we -- -- sell bonds for. -- -- Let's cut that back to twenty cents on the dollar you know and just not spend that much I don't know. Excellent column -- 2670. As a Texan and vodafone's exit Iraq and Afghanistan and do a better job protecting our borders Taliban and and al-Qaeda cannot -- to our shores spend money on our borders. Pretty broad. And but. Tell me what you think. Richard in New Orleans husband Richard thanks for Conan. Or are you make an agreement -- Bill Archer fickle. That's good -- -- didn't think of what to think about all list. -- notes straight America which. What there we are all our church from Afghanistan. Iraq. Libya. Syria where we have. -- home put more reporters cinco Paul Mercer selectors semi isolation there's. Where we just work -- sure what's wrong here. And -- and are now becoming the number one industry. Industrial. A country like we want swore. Give that back up then if people need our help our military and tasteful. On the surface this sounds are good down. The problem is though we art -- who we are becoming whether we like at a not a one world economy I mean there's a lot of people who -- -- and because of the hole that -- and money wise. That we need to cut off all four and see things like that but if you heard the president's speech a couple of months ago when he was talking about the budget. It's it's like 10%. Of the discretionary spending and that's only like 10% but it's not a huge chunk of money I mean. If if if if it costs us a 120 billion dollars a year to conduct those two wars in the Middle -- over there. Or Kosovo's two billion dollars a year to appease people and not have to go to war will then that's a better expenditure of the money. You know keeping an area stable buying you know. Subsidizing the populace -- food and things like that. Instead of it becoming a hot spot in the enough time to actually send troops into an area to protect our interests I mean that's I think a wise expenditure money. But. Arts and we certainly have enough problems back here that can be -- some you know putting troops on the border and not only because of illegal crossing but because of what the because with the drug cartels have to win down there I mean it's it's could be. This seems to be like there as as much more dangerous in our own hemisphere than the result. -- edit there's certain withdrawal. Or restaurant to lot stand out artists. You know their their starter kill our citizens. On our side of the order -- an outdoor thing about it. So early and I don't enough that things. Are they coming home fast to slow just write what. I think -- is coming home in our -- Republicans. You know a lot of Republicans over many years but it. I -- we need to come home taxpayer we it would we. In -- we party. Just the top arms from all reports are strained air in don't have the money it is. Gamers it they've been -- -- Something we need to come home structures and our demand where about it later. True though I mean I'm had a lot of conversations with. Friend of mind of political scientist at Tulane now he's at the State Department just Stacy. And we talked about you know why were actually in Iraq and the arguments of people make and all this -- all that all war was over or -- going yeah you're right it is because. It's and it's the like the number one commodity in the world and it's worth a lot of money and whoever has all the oil controls. A lot of power and we either need to control what we need to be very good friends of the people who do controller -- have to create something that makes. Owning it -- and that's and it's not gonna happen anytime soon so the best options we have RT the controller ourselves would be you know. Twin Brothers with the people that anyway rich and I gotta go -- appreciate it got to do the news here Don -- is on the news from -- gonna bring us up to date. And it will be back from or your calls and comments and text messages and and a emails here on this subject -- a pot to next hour here on the -- -- -- seventy W Libya. Our backgrounds Obama's budget here so 1786688. -- early seventy. -- We're talking about the president's speech last night and its plants on the troop withdrawal. I'm coming home from. From Afghanistan operative and -- WW dot com what do you think about his timeline institute faster slower just right on the three bears. -- get some fresh numbers for you here but also wanna know what do you think about here it is 44%. To slow 25 to finance 31 just right. So the majority of you in this unscientific poll. Are saying -- so let's get on the stick and bring them all home now. Also mom questioning is what should we do with the money the council of mayors. Met with the presidents and they want him to spend that 120. Billion dollars a year on this and they wanna spend money on job creation and I say in. No and it's a hard thing to say because. Frankly we also have Demi we got what is -- 429000. Requests last month last month last week in new job. Signing up for jobless benefits. We got nine point 1% unemployment and -- that number is small I think it's actually bigger than that. And here's somebody sent me a text message about them fun but basically they're saying what are we gonna do it all those would all -- soldiers when become homers. And -- Rome. There it is. That is a lot of bodies to add to the workforce from the troops come home I know that the majority of the guys in my guard unit joined up just with a steady work for the deployments. Com. There is there's a question right there what should we do with the troops is -- time to send -- home. If they wanna stand should we keep them shall we send him. Today to both borders quite frankly. -- for the southern border but still there's still lots and lots of problems on the northern border and lots less people are prepared to deal with it. So I mean do we need are we -- a in a situation. In the in the world today that we need to actually. Put more troops on board actually have them do. What should we do with the money. Where we gonna find Johnson the troops to the president's that in his speech last night. That got to take care of the troops -- the benefits that they deserve they looked after us now we're gonna look after them. And I can't I can't argue with that -- Canada. Nine point 1% unemployment at least and what are 33000. Troops withdrawn from Afghanistan is already bought a -- troops home from Iraq. There are no boots on the ground in Libya but there's arguments in the senate -- house and such -- if we. We actually what we are doing there is hostilities. So there's that there's lots of debate about when it comes to this but I said no don't do anything with the money down down. Don't take it okay that's a 120 billion dollars a year that we don't -- As a 120 billions of -- a year that or borrowing. To spend over there. And I don't think we need to borrow and spend it in a different place I think we just need to quit borrowing and spending at at all take this scratch 120. Billion look they're talking about right now if they don't they got to raise the debt ceiling. Both on its already before control. Agreement of the figure they're looking to get to. So that's a 120 billion dollars a year that they don't have to raise the debt ceiling on if you don't. Spend that more money on war if you just if you don't spend or anything else. Here is soliciting. Here it is. That money -- credit anyway right you don't have to spend your credit card just because you stopped chart charging one thing. Government needs to stop paying aid to other countries and spending money like its other people's. People cannot afford more taxes so many people are about to drown financially as this -- government. Should have the same as everyone else retirement health insurance exit poll. As far as he's concerned it is not fast enough thanks for those two responses. 2670. As the number here 866889087. Or toll free line. That that's something else do when they're discussions. -- over whether to do with the debt. The Democrats are demanding tax raises the taxes and Republicans of walking away from the table because they don't wanna do that they wanna do with -- I say. That they need to do it. They mean to demonstrate I don't think we're gonna get out of -- hold a raise in taxes. I don't think we're gonna get out of its hole without raising taxes I think it's a foregone conclusion. Bought. You have to demonstrate what you can and are willing to cut. And you're gonna have to cut trillions. Even if we have balanced budget amendment two day. If they had a balanced budget -- balanced budget amendment that was passed two day. And they only spent the money. That they took -- Were still fourteen plus trillion dollars in the hole. And other reports and I'm reading we are we have promises. Obligations we've promised. To pay out over the course two years that is trillions and I mean is there a point where are you know what to believe anymore. But I believe that we are in the hole bigger than we bring -- on. Trillions of dollar summer saying a hundred on some missing seven he -- trillion dollars. Others depend on how you do the math a hundred trillion dollars. So against that argument -- -- -- 120 billion dollars a year is a drop in the bucket but you know every -- starts to drop I -- don't spend. And I say demonstrate to me that you have that you have. You have the ability to cut down trillions of dollars in spending. And then we'll raise the taxes and use that to pay off the debt. But there -- no way we don't dig ourselves up -- hold a raise in taxes that tolerance to. But we we certainly can't put another shovel in the ground spend more money that we don't have an borrowing. In an attempt to get out of the hole. I'm not an economist with -- makes perfectly good sense to me you don't get out of a hole by digging in the and went to 67866889087. Or toll free -- More attacks or your comments -- calls right up noticeably gates avenue dubbing them our way right now we have a little over 7900 signatures on our on line petition. Few hundred signed on are on location -- but the commissioner of the players and owners need to take a fiercely on the turn out big big big big numbers. We may never remember them and that nation it's on Oprah fans first petition. We want pro football it's very easy go to Debbie -- overcome -- casting your vote on our opinion poll right here. Cast your vote and just click on -- -- blue banner. Takes just a couple of seconds absolutely free and we do not give out your information. Just signed the petition and you are presenting those numbers to the commissioners and the players they are meeting again but there's still no guarantee there's going to be a whole season. This year so go to WW dot com fans first from the flagship station and who dat nation WW. Six so -- 78668890870. Is our toll free line that. Here's a couple of more text messages of people -- by you know like these text messages and -- too but please do not. Do not. A drive and text at the same time McCain thank you very much. Republicans wanted war but now time to pay for and they say no new taxes. Mean. If you go back and looked at at -- Democrats voted for two they voted for the they voted for the in Afghan opening up to 9/11 and they did vote. The war powers. It wasn't it wasn't just 01 sided thing. But I -- -- there it's it's just not it's just not gonna happen without raising taxes but again it's night. Don't go -- somebody for spending too much money and then just give them more money they they have to demonstrate. Frugality they have to demonstrate fiscal responsibility. -- get more money. Does that again there is absolutely no way we're gonna again out of this hole. -- out rates and taxes tariffs. Without creating bunches -- more jobs. Just not gonna happen the hole is too deep. -- -- But there's been too much irresponsible spending. As it is so no you don't get new taxes until you show proper fiscal responsibility. And then you know when you've caught everything you absolutely -- and then cut some more. And you get to raise taxes -- which can't dig yourself out of -- whole binding and here's another text it's not our say so let the president do his job and wish him the best one it's not our say. Who he thinks paying for this who do you think puts on the uniform and does this. It's not the president's say so by himself that's why we have three branches of congress and that's why we have free speech and that's why we have this kind of stuff. It's not it's not are saying. It's not are saying it is absolutely it is our say it's yours and mine say. Absolutely. It's all a virus say. And and even so you can't dump all this stuff on one man anyway -- 11 you can dump all this on one person. It is. And you need to -- on it and -- attacks is not real money we're spending debt they were spending money we don't. 2670. Got to step with the second Akron more of the money the cost to take care of the vets when they come home will be tremendous. Yes it is probably thought oh no not probably definitely so it's going to be a lot of money but you know what he was correct in a speech last night. Daycare for us we need to care for them. We need to take care of them. That's one thing this country is never done well enough is take care of the people who stood opposed so the rest of -- to liberalize. Back when more -- are run at the death obligates them need to be. I'm back on -- -- fixable. 17866. That it and 087 -- is our toll free line the money sooners are c'mon. Area get a grip 101000 troops coming home don't equal 1120. Bit on -- well 120 billion savings on talk about when to shut them all down and bring them all. 101000 troops coming home don't -- 120 billion in savings and you're wrong about jobs loss from stimulus put out the facts not GO PBS. Well here is they pull out of fact site. And it says George Allen made a statement two point six million jobs have been lost since the stimulus bill was signed and they rate the story as true. They do go on to say that there are lots of jobs that he's not mentioning in his statement lots of jobs. That were saved by the stimulus but most of those jobs were like teachers. And such that a generally pay were taxpayer funds. Anyway so. Juggling numbers back and forth one point nine. Million. Close. So frankly here it is so pull out a fact. Poor little fact check site says that statement is true so thanks for the F thing but -- not -- nominee propaganda put now what -- read. 260187. Is the number listed back -- -- phones. Joseph and Wallace later on Joseph thanks for -- -- have you. I'm sorry I'm on. It before I go to decide -- I'm sure that I heard you right I was listening earlier and use said that if we saint. -- hundred billion dollars by bringing the troops home you would be opposed to using that money to create jobs does that -- on. What I said was that in the statement that they're talking about a 120 billion dollars in and this year alone spent in the wars in the Middle East. If they don't spend that money on the wars in the Middle East anymore what I'm saying is that that money does not exist and I mean you're spending and on war. Because you're borrowing money right -- you're borrowing the money -- are saying -- continue to borrow money and spend that to create jobs rather than. Resident on the war. And you're saying -- just use that money -- either don't borrow that are you don't pay off the debt so often that it is instead -- create. All I'm saying I'm saying don't borrow announcing and strike it off the budget that that money does not need to be raised anymore. Okay what we'll talk about is different between good and bad debt and now I'm getting a little example of how could do this in my own life and let's. A driver OK and I think I. I think the stupidest thing for me to do is to go out and spend. Money on my credit card to buy dinner or something like them and now. And Bob and Bob 082000. Hours or so so that can buy. Myself another car which I can put on the street not -- heart hire another driver who works for me. Not only will -- pay off their borrowed. To botnet Clark but they -- he can pay off my other debt is well. So I understand the concept that like when your whole he got up big and the kind of experience. Keeping being. Registry let me -- get a little bit more so I can put. Trampoline at the bottom hole and I can bring myself. So increase mortgage you'd get more people in the tax. In the text mate who can help you to. Off the debt that we Brinker yeah. That we -- and we can -- in paying off. You know the incredible that we -- So why not. Just a bit more easily -- -- -- people to work building wrote in Britain because they're called and it will be good -- -- -- which -- It was when their dot. But will come a lot of people out there. It'll paying taxes which could be producing revenues that could go to paying down the -- All right I'm by and that and I'll tell you -- as far as I'm concerned the government does more stuff than there -- supposed to an infrastructure. As certainly one of things that are supposed to do so frankly would all the money we spend we should not have crumbling roads and bridges but I'm look and I'm looking at this truth O meter. And the guy says here's the money we've spent to do the very thing you're talking about that we're two point six million jobs in the hole I don't know it's that bad. But frankly when. How much a little bit. More wind as the little bit Morgan apparently who have been -- a little bit more in infrastructure. And there's port public and it there's our review -- our roads our crumbling. It all kind I don't see I don't see you offered true and true yeah. Here I gotcha I gotcha but I think they need to quit spending money on stuff. That and and instead spend the money they're spending on other stuff on infrastructure they need to make cuts and then we go. Raise more taxes and borrow more money you know I don't I don't I don't think there'd be fiscally responsible if we just gave them more money by borrowing more that. But yet there's no way we'll get up to fold without raising taxes this just -- -- half appreciate it got a government.