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07-29-11 2pm Chick Foret

Jul 29, 2011|

Attorney Chick Foret in studio to discuss the Danzigger and the Renee Gil-Pratt cases

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Anyway MM. Our number two here and -- That they list our. Joining me now the studio if the world famous -- -- former assistant US attorney former assistant district attorney. Now he's an attorney attorneys. And I mean He and is their money that you -- come on what Bobby -- talk football you come -- would mean. You come up or become don't become an atomic talker. Is there anybody you won't talk to me and just that friendly guy that does not fifteen minutes of fame and -- Graham and I elegant thirteen forty out of here or thirteenth at into the European states. Op height amendment and wonderful one. -- my son's -- down this week and a hope and we go to saints' practice on Sunday morning and and football's back you -- a low shot out -- -- -- -- and training camp -- -- body at their. My daughter Courtney worked for the saints and courtly man Cornell have you. Left my daughter's birthday demo. -- so -- daughter day there we go. Man what you do for the -- she's in -- Jesus L issues its third year that my buddy Greg Council of Europe she's in the PR department working as an intern and. I got a nephew. Who's who study in sports management so what that -- Maybe treatment she's in sports management as well oldest she's twenty. He's 21 tall would red hair -- name them look like you. Canada gave McCain a blood in Maine my wife's. Let's check foray again we talk about the okay -- -- wanna -- -- wanna talk specifically with you today about the Renee gill Pratt verdict I don't wanna talk about where where we and the dancing if so what if you want -- -- -- -- you must do Renee gill -- has a regular preference all right first off the only thing different from this problem the last -- to my understanding. Is that Angela Coleman could not testify so they basically. Put somebody on the stand and read the transcript. And the other thing that happened was she did not test Putin just she testified last go around. She she did testified the first trial and there was a transcript available for the second trial but she did not testify -- the second -- Whether it where they -- -- the jurors made aware and available to the transcript. -- of of Rene you'll press absolutely not now the only the only transcript that was read into the record. In the Renee gill Pratt case was that -- Angela Coleman correct is here she's very very ill. A lawyer who was in court. Valerie just one of them public defender's office -- -- couple times and her transcript was read into the record. Is that unusual. When a witness is unavailable that's what you do and had that happen and why can't I can't Israel. I had no idea how sixtieth. So. And -- -- Barry is the word well and as I was there and I'm assuming that she was not even a available to like testify. Via video link or Skype or telephone conversation you know that's how she was and that's why they went through. Gonna meet somebody may be in the hospital but still awake enough for. You know lucid enough to actually testify over like Skype or phone I've never seen that done I don't know the rules of evidence provide that -- it seems to me I'm not a lawyer but it makes more sense to me. Been reading the transcript from the last go around. Because I might have different questions is gonna different laws on media at. Think she was -- as this I don't think the rules of evidence -- Alaska Skype. But more importantly she was on available I don't think she would have been available. On any means but in federal -- they're looking for live witnesses or if you're unavailable and there's a transcript from and -- key the legal key is. Were you able to cross examined was the opposing party. And in this particular situation would have been -- -- was CO. Able to cross examiner in the prior proceeding then the transcript could be read as happened and. I understand so in other words if if it you. You couldn't necessarily just read a statement because He would not be able. To cross examine what -- they cross examine and in this in this transcript right so okay -- good enough. And I don't I don't doubt that she's -- failed -- -- -- mean -- you know I'll -- lawyer would've had a problem. Fest and it won't she just flat out too sick to come here on the right child yet -- Renee gill. -- did not testify in the second case. And that's a difficult decision you know -- We talked about Kasey -- Casey Anthony case she did not testify she was acquitted Renee gill Pratt -- testified she was convicted. In the -- case one of the five at best. But the first time she testified and hung jury got hung juries might be a good thing Hewitt play beyond the same way but let's look at the eyes if you examine it closely you'll see that in the first case of the twelve jurors. Only one -- When had a problem with the guilty verdicts those eleven no one in the first. And I like tell people if you cannot be doing headcount it was 24 jurors who heard the Renee gill Pratt and tornado zones that -- -- three found guilty in this case in the case on Monday I'm told. That the jury went in to there deliberations started their deliberations in the jury room at 1230. At 1235. The Marshall went in to take their launch order. They would serve launched a launched and had a verdict within two hours. So it was pretty. The defense was pretty summarily dismissed it was a quick verdict in 2324. We now know -- at times Picayune reported the first drop their phone and regulatory -- -- now she's guilty she faces one. She's got -- well gonna check -- orally statutorily it was a one count indictment she faces a maximum of twenty years. My calculation of the guidelines somewhere between twelve and fourteen years. And where she gets put in a bad spot is. The federal sentencing guidelines a large portion of that is the amount of the loss amount of the theft the -- that means that involved in the crime. The jury in this case. In the forfeiture counts came of the number one point one million I'm sure that number will be used in the calculation of the federal sentencing guidelines and when I do their calculations. 121415. Years it's in that area. So because does this that much money she's going to be looking that's got everyone out of five. On knob that once again the guidelines are advisory just out into and every nor Hillary wants it I mean what -- He -- -- yeah statutorily is that my only that Tony is right and in the jury said one point one right Mayo actually use that in the mathematical. Computer formula on the guidelines. And my calculations twelve before you in the range she accountable one point one -- after spending I mean I don't know old you are. She is but I mean she's probably my age which means when she gets that the Pope reaching -- exactly going to be. The most you know in in the prime. Earning bracket. Which means as she is gonna be -- is about as we talked about on your show many times. The is that is that at Westminster bills out of your phone with -- satellite satellite the morning after Christmas Carol. Turn it off obviously. As we you know last talked about several times in the show you have to do 85%. Net of whenever -- sentences. But it's on the unit but Alicia let's say let's say -- -- yesterday got to come out -- no job you know I mean look at. She still got to come up one point one mill where unify and come on let's say she gets ten years for purposes of conversation she would have to do -- that years India. But when she gets out she still got to pay one point one million. The civil division of the US attorney's office will be filing. Mob -- buddy Tom Watson who's in charge in the civil division. Will be filing any and all pleadings that He can -- -- I gonna try to take stuff from. Let's say they go after all of her assets. And I'm sure the IRS -- come dance and through their to their microscopes and tweezers. If they decide that she purchased something room. Be ill gotten gains that she just got convicted for. Do they take that farmer and still try to go after other stuff to make the one point one. I -- on his -- answered firstly. Tom Watson in the civil division years attorney's office. Will be as aggressive as you can beat him under. I mean they do assets searches they do the whole thing where they will track it down they got a place in the Cayman Islands so -- can go to and it looked -- money okay believe. They have been into the Cayman Islands in search of. Betty and I as a fan and often assets and adherence and Watson. Now on our ballots. -- examine essentially some money I -- -- chase -- pineapple Jerusalem -- act. 260187. The number 866889087. Or toll free like chick foray as my guess in the studio we talk about the Renee gill Pratt trial and verdict. And we're talking and them all into the mix to the -- probably the the defense has rested -- all the rebuttals would on a -- closing arguments are gonna start Monday. Actually closing arguments are gonna start on Tuesday. The judge issued a ruling this morning that Monday's going to be used. For the final preparation of the jury instructions the verdict form so I called a Paper -- Monday's Paper -- -- -- and all the Paper lined up Tuesday He will have closing arguments. I'm told the government will have three hours of defense -- a total of four hours and fifteen minutes split up five ways and then He would charge the jury and they will Begin deliberating on Wednesday. It's a it's a long process but it's a complicated case. The out and we'll talk that to get back to 670 what do you think about this 866889087. Or toll from land how long would you send running jumper to jail. While at all do you think there ever got to see that we do you think that's the the so far she has not been sentenced for any length of jail time -- one point one million dollars she has the -- got to do restitution. Harsh not harsh enough. Should Jefferson's pay a big chunk of that -- in how long would you send her to jail. 2601 point 7866889087. Or toll for my get a cup -- got -- -- -- -- We think Mike is on there and break yeah the -- balanced budget talk a good game but it's lame talking point you here on Fox News get your own talking points. While you -- your kids to private school you released sacrifice some pretty country. I work six jobs to have what I want. I work six jobs now with what's on my computer screen right CNN's CNN. Our web site at CNN. That was on my computer you know -- Tom on the lame talk and I bust my ass and his job you know that I spent 89 hours a day reading everything -- get my hands on just come up what's that somebody wants to even talk about much of one of the reasons why I'm glad you come here because you're an expert on some specific things. That we can have a conversation about the effects and it really should let stuff like that get to -- it's like that's not even close. To some of the worst of people and posted me but sacrifice aren't really sacrificed so what do you sacrifice. You know -- if they didn't have 33 kids in a classroom my kids would be a public school I went to public school. But I'm not put my kids and classroom third preakness and I got myriad jobs and I'm looking for that many more problem. -- ago yes you know what I am sacrificed my country can probably in -- tax that the new. Thank you very much. Like the governor and New Jersey -- I was kind of response when He called them out like that and that's true that the markets and that's my bits and that I pay for out of my pocket you don't believe that. I pay for so many Europeans and yes I do sacrifice for markets so jump up in -- Now somebody else that attacks and asking about and Mary's question too about going and merry Qaeda and Mary thanks for popular and Avila -- I do bomb bomb bomb -- -- it got the slow. When they apply an eclectic in this. That don't read that and it got them a ticket to the quick but got it is it that done. That they people will line up every day that activate -- at. That helped edit it best that -- -- that could not help them make enough you know. No that's a whole there's actually a whole lamps there out there they're gonna bite you don't know that's an interesting ethnic homeland apology announced that it away. I'm trying to say you make me laugh so much that sometimes that come on come on man I well not that good -- that sometimes I am but. It doesn't matter if that loved it -- get. Hey you know what it's it's you know and even look you're the the opinion of this this person who got up on a mosque in like -- -- You know -- -- got same same common. You know it's just that the accusation that I that I only go to one news source got up on -- yet I have like 75 different links. That I look at I probably look at sixty different. News links have. In went think people think things. It got it from making a lot of people out and on on what they you don't have to help me do it anyway and that is the thinking -- -- law but would. -- -- about the wrong -- -- thing out of it the right. No she's not sick Angela Coleman Betty Jefferson's daughter. Seeing is the one who was too sick to testify however -- I think you questions still value should go to jail right away this is I mean I mean Jefferson. If you're if one okay let them at a price that is very very sick and they want to go to jail. All of that they -- the attorney are you did they -- -- -- that -- that they they don't get well they don't put him in jail very very sick. Well Mose Jefferson He died in jail and the answer to the question is yes there is a medical facility. Facilities in the federal Bureau of Prisons and certainly it's up to the judges to win that person needs. To self surrendered to the federal institution but there's definitely medical facilities available from federal prisoners -- yes that's correct and. And the second or whatever I mean the federal. The federal prison facilities gave Mose Jefferson basically. All the care He could get I mean you He had terminal cancer I don't think anybody could have done any better. I appreciate it thanks America but the point -- Modesto. I mean Angela Coleman is is ill she she just had to rename stunts it's not an enterprise Angela Coleman is -- But that may not keep her from being sent like He says. Note they are definitely federal facilities to provide from excellent medical -- the question. Wind youth thing because this is the last trial correct. Betty Jefferson Angela Coleman played guilty most Jefferson I mean bill Jefferson. Is out on bond wanna do on -- different charges for most Jefferson has passed away right He didn't go to trial with Renee gill Pratt because it was too -- and into the dying in me yes. I wish that I believe this is the last of that group of cases all right then when a weakness artsy people actually -- given surrendered. Soon soon I think -- as our call I think her sentencing date is perhaps in October but soon Betty Jefferson. Angela Coleman -- in our medical commission. Renee gill Pratt will probably cents and not in October will probably have a self surrender date before Thanksgiving. Before and that's just you know my best guess. And when she got some pain in my back before -- -- -- it -- they're gonna start. They're gonna pursue they're going to be listening any and and any and every any and all avenues they're gonna pursue vigorously to collect that for richer which was a separate count of the united. And when she gets out and a half years they start what eco. Garnish aren't playing whatever way whatever in legal remedies -- -- so Ani and every bit as -- and but is there no there's no like. Interest -- -- knows she's been found one point one -- Which He comes up one point one -- and she's done and only answer wins interest and this -- -- -- audiences. Are right we're -- step away from the news to six point seven import your comments. Yeah people say that's and everything and these are paying a money back or take your calls and comments to -- the -- names fills them. But the -- and his Islamic -- -- an outside agency BD if you gotta be cabbies say turn your lights on to you and be seen. Today's my daughter's -- -- Bowen made fifteen. -- Johnson congrats -- for team maybe I'll get together and -- You know. And I need to -- open and active AMOCO reap the Fox Network news while while the news breaks your -- advocates that need to Libya. If I were back on us let's show -- 6786688087. Or toll for final -- -- objects forays in the studio America some excellent text question. How much longer is dollar PO bills appealed going to last I don't think you know that but tell us why he's still out on appeal. I don't know the specific answer that think they're still briefing is is is my last recollection what's on I don't. What it was found guilty don't like what thirteen counts and he's appealing several of them but not all of them. So even if He wins whatever pioli is out on right now He still gonna go to jail because He was still found guilty on X number of counts total. So He can't get escape the pokey. Completely unless you know -- -- and it is an exceptional situation to be out why -- cases on appeal so He has. He's very fortunate but the judge over there in in Virginia though said. This was an unusual case because it was a sitting congressman and this He wants to make sure all the he'd. He is now a test case which is one of the reasons why He is out. Because his whole case was a test case because I wanna make sure the next time ago through the same route that -- all that they they know which. The united dot the I's and cross the -- but in this particular situation they're not sure which which -- -- to ease in which Iran. You know I found interesting and Rene you'll practiced. I always went -- amount courthouse steps. And appeared to blame everything on the Jefferson's. She said that she was scapegoat for the Jefferson written. While what she sing in that tuner earlier this Daschle should appear should regard to defense and and pled guilty and that you know what they snookered me. I'll do a year in jail and fess up to not point a finger at all just interesting and it took a conviction and to be on the courthouse steps after the jury came back to say it wasn't me it was Jefferson. And well Jerome avenue more up news and at pearl necklace and they announcer -- Watson's can be the first thing yet given up her necklace Beirut. -- next Mike you know Wallace has gone Mike -- and a -- Libya. Hey we're gonna are Eudora pretty good man what's. All right I -- -- you broke out a little bit old. Exactly what was on all because I just recently as they appropriation term. All that exact strain but the bulk of Alltel -- mail fraud wire fraud -- three picked -- your typical people. Bob I had an elongated will be equipped to pick what you call -- -- all explore Powell Nazi war area. To picnic direct Internet going to be completely all well which could be a find the litigation ought. But better get bit He it'll -- by. United beat the article does. But that -- cute and all its one year. Over -- yet so I know it's sort seek it's almost like not taken out of -- on a house that means you know you to do toward your mortgage and pay X amount. And and had twenty years that is well. -- -- spent the -- and we'll be sick ought Butler has been. And our panel be -- energy Hewlett technical capital. As far as how much about it. -- -- -- As well a couple of terror to sit and eat it up here but also will be sick -- you'll operator could not anorexic or all of our -- Alt alt -- not a Dixie. -- -- you at all probation. While in federal court victory ample Arctic air to about the war on -- The word from the Arctic litigation unit that actually expanded -- will be spirits are out. -- about what they want what you feel better -- what do you again not a thing. Also I was gonna be my question if you don't make the 600 dollar payment what happens and it's now plural violation and go back to -- -- It was a situation. It's by year so you get technical but -- -- it'll birth date. Probate and it is still a critical matter. -- Opera -- pre is here at eight year tenure it would -- it automatically enrolled pulpit and perfectly simple situation. Because -- they say even a goal. It's actually that -- Our all our debate on the directives and model as well we are glad it's. -- auto club. -- disclosure on what. And it appears to be not protect all. What now all of your probate at this point. Walk up -- basically -- how much money you'll want. It anymore but it notification. Network -- -- Our outlets. You look at the all pro Beijing. It all. -- -- -- And generally pull back the -- And the and make -- the Japanese call your article the -- of quietly to give the -- documents and outcry if you -- You'll you'll they've picked up the -- You know lets me and I. It's just -- a whole lot easier if you never would have done the stuff to Begin. And optical air cleared but not all that. The -- at one point one out. All outlaws here if they want it out. And we will be able to. Are not yet. We're gonna cripple. All would do about probate pulpit and I will be called -- we've got vote and how did not think Seoul. A lot of people like an Arctic she got you all order -- by. Computer. Technology -- -- regularly. She got it equipment in the off off off off you know. -- summit could be little. -- criminal history -- defense level you could very well. Odd computer role and let -- out of the conspiracy. One out ethnic people that when the when it. I I like -- -- in and around his -- three point first off. You're talking about you had a conspiracy to commit mail fraud okay that's 371 conspiracy she's charged with -- eighteen USC. 1962. Which is the Rico. Crime OK so she starts -- level nineteenth. Place you've got -- -- the levels for the one point one million so her situations totally different than yours situation. Trust me she's looking at double digit do you trust me on that. And -- -- correct. I -- gonna go. -- -- -- It'll. It because the the -- in -- and because of it all there. But of people or area -- the work now and order yet. Actually. You know I'll you know. It mineralized targets are good good to go into detail. Thanks to tell my how many people call up and fess up that they went to jail and and a woman tell a story I'm but I gather at the listen and everything had to say. NASA does that you should be teaching classes -- -- don't do what I did you know what it's bad -- got to go to jail but afterwards you gotta sit in a room. With like fifty lawyers and nit pick over every its boom do you ever bought your whole life. On ambassador to drive mainstream. Markets blitzer residents of negates that VW video -- -- -- of X family WW ultra forays in the studio with me we're talking about. We've been talking about regular -- -- calls about -- but don't talk about -- -- the defense wrapped up or some comments on your channel four could you do regular. Commentary on channel four about what's going on. Are all what's what's your impressions so far have they have a do they sequester this jury note now. I can't talk about too -- beat -- as we know how everybody listens with -- Bought you have some comments about some of the testimony of the defendants who took the stand. Well only one defendant to stand out and was the only one who took the stand the other four defendants chose not to testify the case is over ended today the jury was dismissed. Earlier today in there be no further presentation. Of evidence Tuesday -- Argue the case closing arguments though though now explain to me. The prosecution gets three hours and of -- -- -- -- -- -- have a first argument because the government has the burden of -- they -- to -- twice. They'll argue the defense will then argue and then the government will have a chance to rebut. What the defense argued in its closing. Which you said the defense has four and a half -- that file postal 4015 minutes of what I heard this once somebody calculators like 51 minutes. Per defendant as with somebody calculated this morning. But at spotted at least. Standard up Paris shipment familiar amount of of of information and -- testimony yeah do you you can argue for fifteen minutes if you want but you have up to. Whatever whatever five goes in four hours and fifteen minutes. But certainly. I'm minute -- if you're gonna do this case justice you're gonna use all of your allotted time mrs. This is five weeks of testimony is very complicated. You know op I have here at a sample proposed. Verdict form which is like twelve pages and it's very complicated and and it detailed and it's a very complicated case -- take a long time that to argue the case and the jury is paying attention so far I'm sure they gonna be listened closely I was. Talking to some arm hall today who's. Someone involved in the case and this person -- -- both agreed that this is. If there ever was closing argument case perhaps this is it. Yes I mean and that there at its going to be. Analysts say. Choral theater you know but. While -- you know when you when you look at it this is not. Funny games this is real life stuff don't know I mean -- people are -- there's -- I'm missing an arm. There's some audio I mean their wounded people this family members gone and there's police offices there. Whom whom you know we're trying to tell their side of the story and in the judged it every -- very beginning that they weren't gonna allow. Katrina being interjected into -- -- well. There was a lot of Katrina that was injected into it and you know for these defendants are facing a possibility of a life sentence so. It doesn't get any more real than this it doesn't get any more serious. And you know for a for us that they have been in the involved in the -- for a long time. This is the game and its highest level it's not a game I mean this is that this is the practice at its highest level I mean mrs. This is it then get and He didn't get any more important than there -- -- What is the what is the civil suit after all this is done because I mean if these guys get. Convicted of this I'm sure Power One of these victims families I mean I would do well I think the primary defendant. Is the city in the -- -- but believe have devoted no attention to those of lawsuits but. They have been civil lawyers out there who represented some of the victims in this case and so certainly those civil suit will be pursued vigorously. But bottom when nobody's gonna get them -- wrong when nobody who's sitting in the -- was a party to this who's sitting in the courtroom. Is even thinking about a civil suit right now these defendants of fighting for their lives literally. And the prosecution is doing everything that they can to put these folks Ngo for as long as they can't so it's it's it's at the highest level. Muslim. Soldier or not He was caught. So He was plodding but He responding to an attack on America soldiers at Fort Hood actually including taxes outside of it and now it's it's raising another. You know. -- and another thing about Muslims in the military should they be in the military if you were in the military out of the second go around this would you be looking sideways. 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Which can't do that and -- -- -- of a thoroughfare so they gonna do it. River town now have their festival there but in the meantime you can go see. The -- density. At -- -- house just you know what if you go to our website W a real icon to click on my face. There's a link to all the information you need to go see the show had to get tickets -- make reservations wearing your show but to. Let's hope the saints undefeated knocked over right over -- You can drink a couple of -- Wondering more than a couple. I've beer drinking -- iTunes 60187866. Rating on steroids and a total. Howard and also some power I don't. Pick it up. -- -- -- -- -- You'll -- -- -- -- people they. Get. It yet. -- you'll. Get. People into and that left. All -- Life. Church. -- -- -- -- Your guess is as good as mine on that. You know there are a lot of folks who have. As strong sentiments on on what happened on the Danziger bridge in. I don't think so I think great we're in different times now but perhaps. Questions about incest and would attack ads this year. Isn't that police can be tried twice. For the same crime. I'm I'd like him that that's a text message that I don't know what that -- talking about the only thing I always think of is Stacey Cook -- with the Rodney King thing where they were found not guilty but and they try to -- of violence. I'm what was going on in -- the big question and it asked usually be -- can't be tried twice prevent. Ass -- how is it that the police can be tried twice for the same crime. That's nothing active that -- have my opinion is they can't. They can be tried criminally for the same -- immunize anybody can be you know civil trial -- well civil rights violations let me ask what happened in the Rodney King trial but the police in the beating Rodney King trial. They were found not guilty in the in the federal government came in and and in and convict you can always symbolized violent you can -- prosecution for crime and you can have a federal prosecutors -- -- If that's what they if that's what the question was that's that's like only asked the only answer and come up what we're free text message falcon. The police or anybody be tried twice for the same crime and that's because these state trial on criminal thing and then the feds come in with a so. Right well you can and I think what I've read papers the other week is that when that happened the local have to give a -- was. But it let the prosecutor for somebody to prosecute its stake what I believe but that's. We're not dealing with -- situation -- Casey Anthony got off half a million from. Really half a -- would you buy Hustler Magazine and learn. Sorry I just don't. Don't need to CNET of that thing retirement this thing -- -- and it's oh okay so. 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