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Nov 9, 2011|

Spud stirs the pot taking your calls about the sexual abuse scandal at Penn State University.

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Penn State head coach Joseph Paterno reportedly resigning at the end of this season is that soon enough I'll give you some numbers and so becomes -- appear. The coach he's gonna actually that's what we're gonna change this -- two and a few minutes here's your book coach showed Joseph Paterno is gonna coach home Saturday night against harassment. Could you give my 100% as a player or a fan. Doug Collins talked about this last hour I'm gonna talk about take your calls here because this touch and a lot of things again if you go to WW dot com to. You click -- that story herb Joseph par. Retiring. And end there is the 243 pages of a grand jury testimony it is very graphic. So be prepared. I don't think. I don't think you need to re all of it to get the idea what's going on here cause its its graphic. But does a lot of calls and comments about this whole thing in the way it's candle -- the -- has been handled you just heard Dick talk and Garland weather in the NCAA should get involved and all of this. What should happen who she should go to jail what should happen to go to the football program we talked yesterday went out with thumb -- to tell you eight. About you know this was before Paterno aren't you have before Joseph Paterno announced that it was gonna retire right when he was saying is gonna happen and we were talking about you know who's going to be stepping up into -- But this. It's got it's gotta go a lot longer than that and Tommy also was talking to people about this this morning. And there were people asking about you know what. What do paternal new boots whose jobless to pass the information on. And and here's a text message that he got during his show and semi it's -- 8787 we're gonna we're gonna talk about this for a while. Here's attacks atomic got there is a chain of command your job is to reported to the people whose job is to take care of these things it is their responsibility to -- No. I disagree not -- this it's your job to do it in a chain of command situation. If something is happening that effects that the players that is not a criminal act. You know. But for somebody there's a chain of command who witnessed these things happen in. These atrocities happening to these -- borrowings don't vote. Grad assistant the janitor and if anybody else witnessed any of this stuff. I think they pull it through their superiors there their. The coach the coaching staff people who are above them the janitor -- it. -- them. A heads up. That day don't call cops. Patent in a situation like this no this I'm passing the buck. You'll our responsibility as a citizen is to report criminal activity a grown man molesting a little boy is criminal activity. It's your job I I think the universally certainly has -- you have the they have earned the right to get a heads up. But they don't have the rights to. -- where she went in not. Paula you need to call the cops that's all the risk to what you need to call the cops I mean everybody's talking of eternal son about his paternal sun gonna be the heir apparent to get this -- We're supposed to turn Osama would have been a one pushed up against that won't on the shower. You understand. My -- No jobs. And I got to take care my family and and you know what I dug ditches under a bunch of stuff that -- particularly care to do but I've never had a job including this one. That's so good that I would turn my back on something like that. I've never had a job that is so good that I'd I'd put the job over not. Calling the cops when somebody when eyewitness somebody committing that kind of backed. You know just I don't. And there was somebody who called in this morning let's listen in on Tommy show and and then you made a comment about it was somebody open none. And Pennsylvania -- Jones ran well I understand why you know it was a thirty year friendship with Paterno. And maybe that's why he he felt some kinship -- I've got friends and have a thirty years when my best friends we met our very first day in college 1976. Paramount been directed me and all kinds of plays -- and M were politically Poehler and yet we still been best friends for since the middle seventies. If I -- caught him doing something like that. I don't have friends that do things like that -- put it like that my friends don't do -- If I find out that my friends doing that. Yet my friend no more I got no -- -- -- would would drop and I ammonia and a story. So that argument doesn't hold water sorry I mean if he would caught part of the theater costs and dusty dip in his hands. And to the petty cash. If you can't -- dusty you know. And silence tickets Al out of this out of you know out of Saigon content some tickets and and in the and scalpel -- side. But not this. Not this this the whole war sorry don't whole war. So. Joseph Paterno is for is gonna coach home Saturday night against Nebraska's can be -- final home game. You're Garland also talk to Somalia there and end up in in Penn State country. That the students only do -- -- out of the crows -- blue and white there this normally do wideout to support the team. There about a thousand people out -- pro chant meant supporting Joseph Paterno but as a whole bunch more people calling for a blew out. To put their blues and fill the stadium would blue. As the support of all these kids through who have allegedly been molested which color would you Wear if you were at their game. You've heard LSU fans less miles and blue Jordan Jefferson. Over play calling comedy but what would what kind of blowing would you do if you were at this game Saturday night when you're blue in your white. And should could you give him a 100% as a player. Could you give them a 100% as a fan could you support Joseph Paterno when he walks on the field -- money says yes what are you -- 2601 A semi a bunch of stuff and upon about this let's grab a quick -- -- are you got a bunch of calls got a bunch of text messages to what do you think about in my solar cell police say -- on WW. -- -- -- -- -- I think -- the the wrong idea being spread around altogether not only Joseph Paterno and coach should be in jail. If you remember there was this tour this issue they -- -- and vice president should the president should be fired new restriction is chair position people on. And barbecue was coaching your credit engine actually witnessed the boys -- automatic polished or the current -- is an -- Joseph Paterno. -- we can do all of the new. They're conducting was he not. Correct that they need to invest in me. Question at some point by Jacobs he can she's taken away in any machine to a but I like champions and continued. What. A program I mean at -- there will be gaining ground and him to continue with this little people -- about the true culture and and not coaching. She should be fired. An arrest -- And taken to jail or allowing true newborns -- and -- and 212 years and -- he -- -- do we think he would talk about it he told his. Talk about a he's taller and keeps what now are a bit that he should have called you can look at. So when -- capital bought or bought it not you have a moral obligation to -- or isn't Marty noble game right you could not -- Do you love it what it was kept them both independent a couple of there was oil. She had to go young lady if she'll I have to be at the markets industrial level. No way to the Khaleda. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- And no one didn't she didn't protest. And children to -- it's one day she did -- come one coach Kennedy show that welcomes our. Although they did was they were able interrupted their protest on PO aren't and a -- that it will be able under our arms. It's one day -- a student cannot put port they -- I bet. But we're done about it if there's additional willing will inch there or do what she didn't come back in the moment ducking and it was shields -- -- and -- -- -- Google showed Obama's first. They have now that -- in the. Well let me I got a subway here for similar. I read I read a report about okay want to turn it came in it was only gonna be there a couple of years to help pay off here he was -- -- -- coach and came -- he was gonna pay off the student loans -- got a degree in English many soft is gonna go off and do some else he's there what fifteen years later is 1400 some odd games. When he first started there was enough and nothing team he's built the team up. Which in turn made. Contributions to the college go from basically nothing to almost a billion dollars. That's one of the reasons why and the football. Can and does do good things. But it doesn't excuse you should not be able to excuse the bad things they should have if they're concerned about their reputation that have been -- should have been concerned about a from the beginning. If you haven't learned since Watergate that coverup is is as bad if not worse in the crime itself. Then you everybody up there needs a degree in history. I gotta go there Mike I think appreciation hang in on on our web page at WWL dot com there's a story right there in the news flipper at the very top. But Joseph Paterno retiring. It just click on that story in the story is -- link to the grand jury transcripts about point three pages long. But it's all -- inning pretty but it's all there so WW dot com and click on this story Joseph pomp retiring. Bring it to the whole shebang and you can -- click on and read and read some of those statements. ITunes six only seven is a number 8668890. H seven is -- told remind Joseph Paterno will coach at home Saturday against Nebraska in his last home game. Could you give him 100% as a player or a fan are you get a fresh numbers on that -- calls not text messages and I'm. So let's get to -- -- Eric in -- I make him our thanks for parliament. I dormant under the outmoded I would have been -- which is being -- everyone that was involved. I only should be darned are terminated -- to look at and alligators -- they from which are well because. Our kids need to be effective at all mean. Not that it won't what you didn't dog or a child the child into this and a bit founded on quote ended addition not -- prayers. We -- all well -- bill. I have a deeper Volvo aren't so -- -- -- ability to go coached morally you could get spent a guard and -- the right -- -- it some dark -- protect the children. I mean are well aware of our country it will be for the win all this. -- -- -- -- -- Period that you put wins and losses in front of a bunch of stuff but I don't think you put wins and losses in front of that I mean so why it's and dusty was a good defense -- coach. So why it. You know that's a a thousand good defense of coaches that don't molest kids go get one of them. Exactly exactly I mean you know do you believe the Baghdad. Did that they can get blown to come to -- and a little bit -- who wounded Paper audit committee. I know he reported -- bill let me go to Republican can you not read about it. In a Paper in about I don't know I'm not what they're not only did he do well the war what we're looking at old bill that would mean. Everybody involved didn't open about it. Should have some of the car or Nevada and the bullet because on the. Time now appreciate it you know what though the perfect comment is a text message. That -- What happened to a it basically says from a teacher and it's from a -- my wife is a teacher and she has to -- against my wife who's a teacher. Our responsibility if she suspect's child abuse is to contact the authorities. Not her principal not administration the authorities the grad assistant head coach the athletic director all should have reported this to -- authorities. All Moscow and possibly face criminal charges. I agree with you her responsibility is soup is to report it to be authorities. I think. I'm telling you where I would go with this I wounded tell my supervisors I would tell my bosses what I witnessed and what I'm gonna do. But the -- stop me from donut. You know I'm gonna give it to Missouri heads up because I have respect for them and frankly I don't think they would stop me from comic -- If I witnessed something like this they would encourage me to do that very thing. So but you're your responsibility is to call the police. It's your responsibility dornin stoppage is your response there if you catch somebody doing this to go and -- and parchment Saturday head. Is your responsibility to to make them make him stop and especially if you know who would miss you know who's actually committing the act. Go and and didn't chase him all punch and do some open and then. You know get the victim go get trust -- we're gonna call you dad we're goes to the doctor okay and I mean to -- what is your responsibility certainly picking up a telephone. But I -- ammo to look at -- meant I'm sick of mobile six foot and three other parents I mean I could have done. I could've stopped it you know a hundred pound person male or female who knows that they could have stopped it but the very least they -- yelled -- him. You know at the very least they -- to -- a chair. They can set -- I'm I'm calling the cops say it. What what is your responsibility. Other than calling the police. And testifying against them. Down to 627 is number 866889087. Or toll free line. John and oh wait -- Joseph Paterno will coach at home Saturday against Nebraska estimate -- last home game. Could you give him 100% as a player or a fanned 7% of you say no. He gets no support. Third presents so yes I can still support him. I can -- I think I -- in the 70% to 30% view you have your reasons sometimes I ask these questions and I'm in the minority and I have my reasons to. I mean are you continue to support him because he's not the one who actually committed the acts. Whatever the reason is doing column coming to 67866889087. In his comeback to profound Johnson or played on John thanks for -- every Libya. Horizon all right but I think they -- -- we showed them that entered the -- coolly confident that. No hard no no to aids into glass company to -- -- you know yeah. But the man operate. Obama and I'm just appalled I'm on -- make me. -- -- -- -- -- Comic round them up on the stern an everyday thing and about it. I'm glad that -- university coaches and they're not going to lock on its undergraduate to sit and Connecticut to get too much you know they were out that they own child and and put the guy well -- -- that played a book and state bank in the -- and -- this guy was supposed to be the next to take hopeful Paterno block. Why did he resign and I did that mean everybody knew about it -- should be a clean slate and people look at Pennsylvania need to stand up and demand that. Is it that you know I don't care and it was a -- OK Jesus Christ. You know I would Jim -- and Don that's old days ago. Yeah again it's just the Scott -- uniquely compelling you don't now. And as far as playing army. As a player yet to give a 100% and that picture up who are you go to itself. You've you made about all you need to go out there give it a 100%. If you don't get hurt you know I mean you get direct yourself. So so so the players if you know the players that are going to feel them they're gonna give a 100% they might not be given Joseph Paterno a 100% but they going to be there and a 100% of the game until their effort on the field. Down here clearly understand because one of the took. You can still go out on the field even after this I think I I think you would have to compartmentalize it. You can still go on the field and give a 100% to your effort in the game and just. You know. I don't know would turn your back on a coach just ignore him I don't know it's their last home game is you know he he's going to be gone here in a couple more games anyway but. Cornered in without via my obligation on the scene you can get together -- -- has been the man. And have recognizing that and it's just discuss the matter because I was seven -- and zero. Block them. You demand in the government has the scar and has discussed the need knew about it and any continue to let the guy who can't get involved with why did you resign 98. And didn't get out of the program he was still involved with the program it was a critical apparently was -- -- defensive mastermind and all of a sudden. He quit. You know honestly. I'm only worried about it what I surmise that a -- about that a caller asked our caller stated last -- on sports talk that Paterno for years was going to be fired. The caller suggested that -- black -- university with a knowledge of this allegation. I don't know if that's true but. This -- this whole thing is just so weird because. If you're concerned about the reputation of the school. The school had no idea send dusty did this stuff when they hired him when they found out that he did. That's when they should Dakota moves right then and there you know and and instead of now the schools the schools tarnished. Return though -- third fifth almost fifty years a Cogent. Hit his his legacy is going to be unless the guy who kept the local her -- around and and let him play in the showers you know he's he's gonna go out. With a big cloud of big stain run across his forehead may and they should've caught him loose at the very beginning it's not their fault they hired them it's their fault they kept them in there. Fire can't walk in on that but other than Jim -- balked at that old -- but. Opened down that lack grow out of business just and why why you hit there's no mattress he was raped and -- boy in the blood that is. Yeah yeah yeah I know -- a remembered a big blanket party that's what they never ever gonna go buy some brand new tube socks and a great big bar and I also opened just whale on until we get the yes Dan are open runnin' utes in my latest political cartoon featuring up Penn State head coach Joseph Paterno. See this one. Dick Bellamy is exclusive one on one video -- miles an -- -- in -- to -- Christian Garrett says Joseph upon needs to go now do you agree or disagree all is that WW dot com and again. If you go to WW dot com and click on the story Joseph Paterno is gonna resign in that story is they link. To the grand jury testimony. The Tony three pages of testimony from the children the alleged victims. The victims of the alleged acts winning and keep saying alleged but you didn't. It's a pretty graphic testimony so. Don't don't leave and -- coffee table for the history. 2601 assembly mr. telephones. Troy isn't metric I make a drug thanks for Conan. -- -- You know this happened more than seven or eight years ago are -- -- I think maybe has more than one -- doing that stuff. More than one guy doing in a more on the wind -- protecting send us. No border -- -- import the signs. I don't know of any allegations but you're right it has to raise the Specter Andre what. To protect it even brought -- don't protect -- protect -- breakfast and the like that. Why would anybody with a college education think it is -- Yeah but you know what -- in -- in this situation you're working on logic why would anybody do that but why would anybody protect someone like that why would anybody -- I mean that -- one of the biggest fingers get pointed out that at the the former grad assistant now via. Now the wide receivers coach of the receivers coach and the India opt -- What is copies and I ought ala cart and look at the mirror and shape. Well I don't know how you can look in the mirror and say what his son standing next to him don't teach me to be a man dead. They -- the first thing you've got to be is honest and fassel and protect the week but wait a man and I learned that lesson myself yet so. Yeah well you know that at that at the thing I think most of us but not belt was a -- eagle -- the American but I think the delicate it would all ought to get out there. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- If you are a little -- whose job beyond that. But it's looking at the -- and in the mirror -- -- -- people wanna bet it would regard I have an effect on an adult. Comedy and it's been good potential it would enable practical trick to create -- -- I believe yeah yeah what was it LSU player Heather who got suspended by the NCAA because he was -- what his girlfriend. Because she happened is the her dad happened have a a gig and -- -- and oh my god is suspend them any any NCAA -- even pointed a finger at Penn State yet. Why they even play in this game Saturday night. I'll go -- every transcript so -- you don't -- you know I don't. There's there's a change your line but -- movement may get a get a big bottle of pepto dismal when news when it's not a -- -- -- -- an excellent call to six owning 7866. Any man's early seventies are told for months keep going on the phone salaries and Covington was gone on to Sally thanks for permanent. I I think it compel the -- when you were talking about what a person who witnesses. Lord -- about that you. What their responsibilities are and my feeling is. Irresponsibility should be clear that came -- that or your own child. You witnessed that whether it's your child -- somebody else that we live in a well we have to take care of each other and you do what you would do need it into your own kid. Yeah he's Green -- cops. Do what you would do it at the world works and like we've got to take -- of each other. Well and because. I can't be would my own kids 24/7 and I bet you you send your kids to places well with people let you trust and you would expect. Number one that. If you you want me to look out for your -- which I will gladly do I'm not connect. How correct your kid to a certain degree that -- that you're raising New York it is your business but it is my it is absolutely my business to stop or report. Anybody who is abusing. Or -- -- -- molesting a -- it's it's it's my job it's my -- Responsibility just as a member of society because society as a whole has rightly decided that this kind of action. Is completely unacceptable you know -- I agree I totally agree and we are a human family and not how we sit back and -- a good thing wouldn't happen the way they do. If people step up and it. Behave like the human being that they that they need to -- That they claim to being anyway got an -- that was just that though what's more important you know is is a gig more important or -- out. -- LL well for the simple fact of the matter is there's somebody out there. Who was gonna look at your action and go there's an honest man you know I'm looking for honest people. So if you if you're afraid you're gonna lose this gig believe me they're people out there who feel the same way you do about these kinds of actions and they'll be one to pick you up. And I worked for target. I'm not bad and doesn't support you it and be able to do that and not -- -- -- back up organization. Period I -- a picture of bigotry that is that it. -- Leo right yeah you break it up so bad. On our way averaged brake properly Ben I got to step away anyway Sally appreciate your your common in. Gonna step away for a second to six so on it seventy. 866889087. Is until Friday is another text message basically sand. Roughly the same thing for China should not be allowed to -- at any more games he should be hanging his head in shame his actions or lack thereof allowed more innocent children to be raped. I swear of people except this man and anyone involved back in the game I have no faith in humanity. That's that's and that's kind of basically what Sally sent to us about your phone calls on the -- seventy WWL canceled an air Florida and time again thanks for coming in -- -- -- Not much effort though it was so old belt where Al Bloomberg was we'll put a shrimp on the Barbie for you -- -- -- whatever so what's -- only about moments. About Scott that you brought out like. That laugh all the big tradition I don't. I'd be set to present. They're just -- -- -- don't let I'll probably go -- -- alerts to your -- -- questionnaires. Why. It is no one. Don't chopped up being -- charges be a ball against all these people that do. It didn't say anything because the all the cute that happened to after that. Maybe they could stop this -- by a report -- why is not. They charge via partner them well not all. You know I'll I'll tell you because. -- and a screening your calls and she literally just just handed this -- because I was looking for stuff. And and she she came up with this this is from ten live dot com and this is an opinion piece. From today and can live dot com. By Julia L Tilly she's a Penn State alumni it's got a bachelor's degree in applied behavioral science she's a licensed clinical social worker. And also a state mandated reporter of suspected child abuse. So here we go. Well according to the states each Child Protective Services law. They report is required to. When a person who in the course of employment occupation of practice over profession. Comes into contact with children has reasonable cause to suspect on the basis of medical profession -- other training and experience. That a child is a victim of child abuse which means and any and everybody has to reported however you go further and storing. However that same ball goes on to state that mandated reporters at an educational institution. Or only obligated to quote notifying. The person in charge of the institution school facility or agency or the designated designated agent of the person. In charge of these suspected abuse which means. That that's why these guys aren't gonna get charged because they reported it to the higher ups. And higher ups are the ones who -- -- now she is calling. Later on she's saying. I propose that we amend the law to require the mandated reporter to make a report directly. -- department apple TPW and his department Child Protective Services. Basically. Report directly DPW and notify the person in charge of the institution where they work and she's basically saying that what I'm saying that I think you -- a heads up to the people. Who were in true or above you your bosses. Employ. You know you need to be called on the cops on this and the state law in Pennsylvania as it stands only requires them it only required that Greta says until coach. It only required that senator tell his supervisor. To pass the -- and on how can that be you know. I don't know I just. I. I don't know what -- I really don't I just -- don't know how the world. Edit actually the largest is popped it involved I talk about the warrant on the and the owners want all need. The one that he attributed that to happen of course all. Because if they were reported that first one he want to ban on the streets through the rest. That's very true the downside OK let me doubles evident here in the last minute or so we got left. The downside of this though is. There are people out there who would make a false report and you and I and everybody knows I mean we've talked about this kind these kinds of actions. That guy and in Tulane got charged with this and it turned out to be focused. But he well he still had a great big flashlight shined on him in for a couple of days -- a couple of weeks where. He was -- Murphy and people across the street when they saw him walking down the sidewalk. You're -- they think that actually has -- this guy was. But employees. And about what that goes out Obama opponents right it's okay you're right it does -- report yeah. Yeah okay. But the thing of it is I mean again this is a hellacious charge so you gonna make you you better know what you're doing. But if you witness I mean. You can read the stuff in this in this -- A grand -- I read -- if you witness somebody doing that -- no gray area there pal I saw him doom this --