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01-12-12 11:10am Maggie Hadleigh-West

Jan 12, 2012|

Garland is in The Think Tank with Director "Player Hating; a Love Story" to discuss her movie and crime culture.

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-- -- -- Talking about president Obama's. Ideas plans hopes dreams of bringing business back. Tribune -- from overseas. And a listening to a timely today and a plethora bra of bone. Try them. Situations and I'm really wasn't aware of I said well we're gonna flip round and continue what Tommy is doing. And consequently we have. A very pulled show experts and people calling and talking about the current issues in -- -- the -- called Tom Meehan and -- that a prolonged. But our second hour was already planned. And it's about a documentary in the documentary called clear Haiti. -- old story. And boarded the thing -- bit my producer Bristol new monitor blitzes all of non. She is or borrow more to do things -- as Scrooge or thugs. Human to. Should be a nice little juxtaposition. Of what we -- have been talking about. We have no idea heavily bush to. Here will -- is the director of the documentary thank you welcome to the show could help him here and so parents from New Orleans you -- couple years. But -- many years in Alaska many years in New York that's absolutely right. Been all over the place. How did this come about Brooklyn New York hip hop artists. And his crew of violence in and poverty in the housing projects but this all come about. Well Iman nice middle class -- check. But I was living in new York and I had a friend who was working at the same organization that I was working for the American Booksellers Association and the late eighties. Who was murdered and he was murdered in Harlem. And I watched him go overnight from being just this wonderful human being. To just another dead to and -- dealing black guy and I was so. Shocked by his loss but it really opened my eyes to. This very very different world. Now help me here you have fewer -- I -- how did you. Going through this elements say hey guys like do a documentary on your without being shot broad attack I think you did have a good and put your children. Yes I was in fact robbed on the first day of shooting. But what I did was first I went looking for a character I knew that anybody that had been raised in the projects -- gonna -- black neighborhood. Then had just been signed by -- record company was gonna have a compelling story to tell and so I went through eight characters. Before actually found the guy who is the main character in the movie his name is happened now. And I made a really simple deal with them I just promised him that I would always tell the truth. I told him that I was gonna make mistakes that it wasn't my experience. But that I was his advocate and I would do everything that I could to tell a true story but it was my movie -- Look how long did -- It took me ten years of ten years of so should you win into these areas over ten year period you know I went into that area for. About a year and a half -- on cars shooting but still like yes yes filmmaking is a long process so the whole thing took ten years. -- and take a little bit of an early break from when we come back through an obvious question of -- what -- did you learn what does this document read city. Maggie gimme -- and I did just basically use then you're to have -- this in ten years your life. Putting this to get the you followed a young hip hop artists in Brooklyn right that's right you're -- computer had personally there you were -- You are white. You're I have basically very dangerous neighborhood I would assume yes Forrest run statistics go. What what did you learn what what came out of this works is some doubt. Well actually I'll tell you that on the first day of shooting it wasn't me actually that had the gun put to my head it was my my shooter my cameraman. And that happened right after I had had an interview with the young guy. And I had asked him if he carried a gun this is a nineteen year old guy and he said. Of course I carrying guns it's my responsibility. To carry a gun and I thought -- that's a very. Strange way of phrasing it and then we went downstairs we were in the browns' -- housing projects. And we were out in the courtyard. And three young kids rolled by on bikes and they couldn't have been more than fourteen years old. And they pulled out guns and one of them put a gun to my -- my cameraman had it was a nine millimeter. And they were fighting over the camera and everybody was screaming as scared to death. And luckily Steve dropped the camera. And the kids rode off and we lost you know we lost -- camera equipment and for me it was a very. Revelatory. Moment because what I realized was first of all the people in the courtyard. There about thirty people there were not concerned about what they just happen they weren't concerned about. They were concerned about us they weren't concerned about a camera equipment they weren't concerned about how he felt but they were scared. And I realized later that it what it actually happened is they they had had all of our. Information had been stolen with all the names of the people. That we were working left and so I realized that they were targets and that we. We we're the ones that had the privilege because of the color of our scan of walking out of this neighbor it but all of those people had to remain there. In that with that kind of violent. Violent. Potential oppressing them. When you moved here would choose seat you would cheer on chose liquid -- Where we have criminologists. We have of the period our head of the Foreman of the crime commission. We have the mayor calling in and in saying. On one side gives good hotspots. And Europe to please bear you have to get community -- Unreal decided to do its long term education. Nuclear families itself or any of those answers to you. Well I think that there is an element of truth and that of course but I also feel like the biggest problem that we have in this country is that we live separate lives. And that the the neighborhoods are separated. That the projects are often separated. And that what goes on in those communities. Is. It's considered. -- problem and that they're not enough people that are crossing the divides and saying walking into communities and saying. I can see that people are dying here. And I believe that this is all of our problems I think habit because to me. As a human being it really matters that people are dying. And I don't want to close my eyes to it I don't want to pretend. Like. It doesn't impact be particularly I don't wanna get to the end of my life. And know that that's what I have done every single day is ignored the plight of people that I could have reached my hands out to. Period of fire remember correctly don't think we've got a mirror. Two literally said the old community is so let's let's have the town hall meeting would say did. And he's had talked to me tell me what I need to do what truly want me to do. I have a police -- better than Lee says that when he sits in your chair. Says we're pleased sounding going to these -- try to get known try to know people try to talk to people. And they seem to be trying to do something that your talking about. I think our crime commission. As a lot of white people and some brown people when I think their community organizations of white people brown people and yelled people lives trying to help. But the crime rate isn't going down it's going up. That's absolutely true but you know if it were mean and they -- my community. And the New Orleans Police Department were walking into my community and being friendly let me. I certainly wouldn't trust them. You know so maybe it's not the police were talking about you know maybe it's a different. You know like your average person like me or like you. As I you know is showing on the break that thing that I did when I moved back to New Orleans was I I started this personal project that was just me it was just me and my little brain and it was called hello project and it was just. Being open hearted and trying to talk to everybody I could because I don't wanna live separated from other people. And a little from the funeral Monday when they leave Poland some of the listeners who went there thinking about what we're talking about. Build your own -- Maggie. Welcome to the show. Billy. -- and school and twice you Wrigley Billy. Bob and Susan Susan -- governor -- bill. Garland. I think that this this forum so timely. I think the last three hours -- really touched you know on and on this solution. They eat. Many many books have been written about. You know how to change the sociology -- the -- dynamic. Do you to reduce time an inner cities and one that comes to mind reduction and -- book and netbooks are actually down and do -- very simple premise. You know for a child to feel successful. Any child. What do average incomes socioeconomic level where -- a child has the feel connected to wanna force saying. One actually -- only to a score of three at church for -- community. Where that community sports star. -- outreach program. Somewhere in there and they have the feel and N com. And -- and those -- self esteem and value for life and then this. Hot spot -- you're talking about had to do was hit that have. -- really know -- even know no value per lot and they can't be successful. Somewhere they'll be successful at being back. So we're -- talking about you know community sorted -- regions in the average person and and picking. Your your money in your intentions -- your mouth. You know locally we have one of those. What areas should call eight pacs and try at all on Washington and abroad where. It started out with a woman and director -- -- it's Patrick. -- started opening her home. And -- coming out of Paris situations you just knew. Afterschool on the weekend ever -- that they can go it was sorry. And now its own chew on. You know -- a facility where. He -- every day there may be thirty to sixty or seventy kids. Most of which are black to -- hand because. There's a safe place to be where someone wants them and cures for them and their activities that they can do -- better -- And how me let me we affect Patrick of apex and Rachel walked it covered it extensively. Would be a great opportunity for showed big extent yes -- -- do that how many kids are tens of tens aren't. Yeah not ten dependent ten. So yeah so. Your last caller was talking about in the community aspect outraged. And we're both hotspots over that -- -- see that being more involved the schools the churches. The average people. Cook and individually. Outraged accurately you know Sean look at -- our backs said you know what you really -- -- have -- he had to have boots on the ground and you have to -- You know police officers who are. You can best practices short in those areas where they can legitimately pull people over for. Driver's license checks insurance checks and and thereby. You know opening the door you just coming out if there's any other inappropriate activity going on. You know in -- that finally see you gotta have money you gotta have moved -- he got to have a police system. Well trained you have to have a crime lab they can do they need to do. There are -- mentioned the thing and Susan and I appreciate it called very much you've mentioned the thing that is bigger problem money under senate bid the crime commission sitting we need more police. That's one of the primary reasons -- how Houston did it. We we don't have the money at least not so for. Meg you'll what was your take months Susan was saying. Well I think a chance to say is valid and I think that those kinds of armed comedian -- organizations are really helpful and really useful but as you're saying. You know that that's about funding to people need money to to make more community armed. Drop in senator is a you know we have a drop in center here in new -- it's of fat Hillis place but. You know they're totally underfunded and there are a lot of lot of homeless kids out there that if if kids. Don't get the love and attention that they need to you know as she's saying then you know there's a good chance that they're going to end up in trouble either. Victimizing our as a victim and it's our responsibility to do something about it and I believed what it. What did you find out what did you learn when you do this you do in the camera and her crew and went into a dangerous from black community you were very white you're blonde. And took a chance and ran into some violent too when you first got there. Wasn't worth the boy did you get out of it why should we see this one will we get. Well it was absolutely worth it and it's the most important thing that I've done in my life. And what I got out of that was. Love I walked in with empathy. I knew I knew that I was pretty clueless about the environment I had an inkling of what was going on but I didn't really understand it. And I can't say that having been there are often on for a year and a half that I fully understand it now but I do have a greater sense of it and I know that for me I did not expect to fall in love with the guys that I was working that I expected to like come and so intent to find that I loved them. Was pretty shocking to me and then two to realize that when I talked about loving these young black men and I mean that's not the romantic sense. Was controversial. That really infuriated me because I love to them because they were funny. Articulates. Charm women -- young gamers who have gotten blow back from what a man who went into a violent black community and understood them and came away caring for them that made people angry. Yes well first of all I wouldn't say it was a violent black community I would say I went into a black community where violence existed because. And but what I mean is the idea. Of an older white woman saying that she loved to young black men that were considered thugs. Was you know perceived as pretty controversial and did you see in them bad news is beyond the perception. Of them. I saw that they were just like me and that they that they were Smart they are funny and they were. You know needy absolutely needy of love and attention and just as I -- And that they were thrilled with that I was there. And you know some of them you know not all of them some of them kept their distance and some took a little bit more time like half -- -- main character. But they were you know they were really happy to have somebody paying so much attention to them they were really happy that. Somebody was really interested in the true quality of their lives. It didn't correct me if I'm wrong here I'm always suspected. Good none of the young people -- environment. To virtually any and all of them would take advantage of opportunity if they had -- opportunity. It's where they all are. Not to get melodramatic but let's spend some time and war and I couldn't hunt -- for a win. But circumstances. Made me rather violent. That was the atmosphere. A Libyan. And you had to. Do that in order to survive is that what they lived in yeah it's a situation where they have to do what they do to survive. And that's what they think they have to do it there and there are often not able to see that there are other options. But the truth is is like half is. He grew up with guns being put his face from the time he was very very young. And he also. He wrote this beautiful song which is in the credits of the movie called life hurts. And and death gotta be easy -- life is hard. And in that song he talks about you know his earliest childhood experience being burnt in the testicles. But with cigarettes. And you know when that's your starting point and then you spend your entire life with around guns people being shot watching family members go to jail. Being harassed. By the police. And the way that I understand that is that what happens for many of these people. Is they experienced trauma and then these experience another trauma. And for me it it would it's I -- it is akin to war and it's a perpetual ongoing unresolved trauma that's. All right -- get ready to. A throwback to the caller was good. Fascinating. Talking through Mbeki has league west Brooke you're a -- documentary. Player hitting a love story you basically -- I ask when -- broad view excerpts from the marks one of the trailers. Are thugs human too because that's that's wanna take away from that is. -- you have the courage to go into these areas in Brooklyn that a lot of us would consider dangerous. It's been a -- or ports you're doing this documentary and I think which came away with. But -- domes that we consider violent those that we considered dangerous. A lot of times you just like us they've just had one hell of a rough time in new opportunity. And Maya says -- now. No that's exactly right and I'd also like to say that if if I had. Grown up in an environment like that there's a very good chance that I might have made some of the same choices that they made and to me it's important to not. Make it us and them but to rather come to the middle ground and look for the humanity. Aren't good let's talk about where people cannot -- this Kazaa I think you're gonna show and one of my favorite places carefully use and boom that's right. Wave who what when more. Okay it's opening this weekend it's okay it's the first screening as at 7 o'clock the second and 930 and on Saturday and that is showing again at 6 o'clock on Sunday and there is a free screening. On Monday afternoon noon matinee free for anybody whether. Anybody can you just don't wanna pay to see my movie come see my movie it's free and then it's gonna be playing at cafe assemble every week and for the next six weeks and you're. Web site. Young Maggie dot com you can buy tickets online there you can sign up for the mailing last you can get all the information that you need that. And that's you'll mega wise old image UG RE dot com that's our -- code to. Lose some of the caller whose credibility uptown building your own would -- I appreciate the chance to double -- taking my call -- -- been averaging Illinois aren't Darren dash I was I want -- thank -- objects. Back when it was still light. I agree that that's a marriage -- -- -- I've felt violence or we were very clear and we were ready to. But outright violence on a daily basis well -- also assault on a very regular basis where police corruption and police brutality. Nobody in my neighborhood trusted to -- it never called the police unless it was absolutely necessary. The world that we haven't let -- is unique situation. About how bad does Kate have decades of dramatic police brutality. And police corruption now everybody wants to -- around look the other way. -- -- as well as a rookie got the 1980s this was highly took a police corruption and police approach be different around the prime minister actually opened her as. Which was retaliation by the -- Gregory nuclear. Little iPods is that -- so desperate are brought. First initial response. Into what he goes out to democracy. And published equivalent did -- get them. And listen to -- the entrepreneur -- any African American community. It was you don't really take people out of Lebanon that the police did you -- this guy I want to look to Eddie got people estimates rock -- a good -- to brought. Influential is the currency and there. In our -- Britain there initially. The mayor the chief of police aren't covered up with a with a solution. Like AIG were talking about it used an operation conducted it is ridiculous which. Absolutely of the Indonesian language we use that they could not trust the police. The people in -- really did not trust the police. And I do not trust the police were -- to read. You need to listen -- this type of thing is brought. What I -- Lubumbashi on it that these people don't certain accessibility and and and what do you think in a different way. Billy does look. I totally agree with -- what do you think America. Well I totally agree to -- -- I said earlier you know why would they trust the police -- There is there no way that that police can go in there and it listen trust but working with and. Well I think obviously individual. Police officers can but if it's a process to and I think the police need to learn. A little bit of empathy for the people that there are I'm dealing with and I certainly agree with the caller in terms of the civil rights. Things anyway. Let's go to a poll Poland Picayune Nuremberg Maggie. All you wouldn't. Whom one school inflation -- ten K and America. You -- -- -- do good newspaper draw won't -- really enjoy your show all I want to talk about your four crop a couple of things one thing they're really intrigued and really introducing -- into -- be altered this. And I think you around the -- you you're -- grown. Every year I hear about the city break -- about the economic impact. They're all of these different since you didn't think succumbed to defeat the money he brings here okay. But don't money are only I'd leave it to warning area the French Quarter the hotel's. Restaurant. The -- What makes -- money. If I don't hear nothing about any program billionaire money be distributed around the area to help offset some of these problems let me about it is that. The criminal we have in the community to date they're gonna be here. They are going to be there but there's a wave of change and if they're gonna take long term port from all that deal with the baby is out there now. The governor money aside to help enhance their lives. -- you know good values and things like day and that feeling of the children is the answer. Because of the next generation have to take over the world old and decrepit or scared. They're going to be the leadership and -- the community gonna have to stand up and take it to the next level. -- is -- -- question euros so a lot of to Florida and I have been remiss for some reason always -- -- -- I have the -- appeared to say okay and we reclaim all the big money we make from Super Bowl. From the football game from all to do things we're of the superdome in the French Quarter personable -- etc. Why can't a lot more of that money go to beat the poor or areas to helping young kids. Maggie. You know we're talking a vote could greet them Tonto and I'm gonna have you back -- costs. But I was a -- this conversation and think it's conversation. Whether or not we can reach an intern on his conversation that should be saved one more time if you Wilfred for those of your -- joined -- Maggie is created documentary called. Choosing director actually broke clear hitting a love story. Document review unknown hip -- young hip up there on in Brooklyn. And what he and his cohorts -- through trying to live in this society. And every body that I've talked to that seen it's it's fabulous give people and I do what when and where one more time. Okay it its opening this weekend at cafe Istanbul which is a fabulous -- space in the healing center. And that's really isn't true real quickly it is terrific people it is it's an amazing place and actually just to Segway ferment the reason that I. That I chose cafe Istanbul and the healing senator opened my movie there is because. It is a diverse community -- it and it makes me enormously happy to walk into a building where there are all different kinds of doing -- -- to raise -- economically yes. So it's opening a cafe is involved this weekend there's 7 o'clock screening Saturday night and a 930 screening. Another screening on Sunday night and then a free free free for anybody screening noon matinee time. Monday and then it's gonna play. Twice. Every weekend first six weeks act Kathy -- ball. If we have more people like to rib problem we have meg ever have William the answer to this problem love to have you back on the show at a later date and that -- -- -- very nicely thank you.