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WWL>Topics>>11-27 2:10pm Spud talks to Doug Sunseri about Danziger police

11-27 2:10pm Spud talks to Doug Sunseri about Danziger police

Nov 27, 2012|

Spud talks to Doug Sunseri, Attorney and host of All Things Legal on WWL about Danziger police.

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They think they may not. Is there a way to celebrate his patrol for -- Wanna give -- giving a grip on. Or about -- You can also -- -- my agency's. My latest cartoons. Although I had to do one now about what we're gonna talk about right now necessary attorney at law and host of all things legal on WWL. Is joining me here to talk about. Well this is the story on our own web site crisis of confidence in the US attorney's. Was up there mr. Doug how you don't -- aren't you don't know I'm beat man I did Chris was countless more in front of a bunch of seventh graders from holy cross and I gotta go back tonight and perform and make everybody laugh and smile to semen found the -- are you -- you are now. Undone and undone at Christmas Carol -- actually the review came out today Ted man's review and no and I console. Excellent show excellent review excellent Boettcher joining me today so we can talk about the excellence in the legal system. What. I mean you know what let me ask you something brilliant for troop. Or what. What all of you guys because. The US attorney's office Jim let them or I mean they -- like the gold standard and you use that term goals Tenneco's gold does not tarnish. And now all of a sudden I mean the what what everybody has always looked up to. When there was nowhere else to go you can always look there now it seems like there's a little dirty green though. On known some of the statues over there what are what are what are all the attorneys doing you know kind of like whispering in. Each other errors everybody kind of gone up a -- just some weird is going on in the in the east industry and -- you know. Well I think it was so unexpected and end all because. Jim what is it among bar association currently has been fantastic. Reputation and I'll go -- it -- and then end up compared -- -- car. Reputation in the -- I think it's shocking. A lot of attorneys and people were political pressure because. Has probably the most least likely candidate for this app should. -- Jim what you can probably name thousands and thousands of mother. Scenarios but you know that you would expect it they had -- all its attorney Jim -- who is. Which is known by the legal community and has been a focus. I mean not and not just here on you know you gotta see you guys I mean he's here. You all here so the ripples that are going on there but he is the longest serving US attorney and that when it went all the stuff which MM broke I know a couple weeks ago. Ten days or so ago we talked about this there was like you have situations where I mean. The US attorney is basically as serves at the pleasure of the president and it was very unusual for a Republican appointed US attorney to keep his job. When when a democratic president took over. But the Democrat and Republican senators from the state both spoke very highly of him and he kept the gig and he's now the longest serving US attorney. Presently serving you know he's been in that office longer than anybody else has been in their office. -- ends considering that he could loses Big -- could have been lost on -- on I don't know him. From the inside the beltway inside the winehouse I mean is there or are. And you hit any of the democratic US senator. Also home to see the words on -- and era that's coming up the Arctic air rifle shot because the Internet child didn't. He's you know -- have been unthinkable a year ago. And now nobody will police itself. I think -- you know we've given. The perception which I think it was a it was ultimately the truth and what's happened as -- -- you shock among the legal industry. Now we got the politics part of an -- away what's all this stuff I mean. I'm looking at OK here is United States district court peace and district announced interact -- is Kenneth -- C -- far com. We'll also Kaufman do -- and in orders and reasons. Basically the judge -- -- has ordered. -- the Justice Department to re commence the investigation -- I mean this guy it's a big long drawn nothing but I'm looking at par three conclusion. Considering the foregoing it is ordered that the Department of Justice or re commenced the investigation. Sought by the court at the June 13 Tony -- hearing. Originally for as as originally submitted by former first they USA man. It'll now -- -- -- -- the guy and set for I mean as a whole bunch of legal gobbledygook over here but based on what it boils down to is. Reopened the investigation. Put somebody or who whom. Has absolutely no ties in the is somebody's completely separate from and not not the people who brought down from DC and let's look into this and he while he has not. He has not open to the door on a new trial like the vote please vote though moon those. Danziger bring off a bridge officers are asking for he certainly has slammed the door on their face. I think there's two. Parallel tracks that are going on car I think one judging will or won't shoot around. Possible concerns here we are going misconduct and can't fully disclosing our -- on the internal investigation regarding the Russians are able such. -- Letters that. We conduct -- action of the prosecutor and posing nude online comment. On Noah. Painted to jury to the extent that it would have affected the outcome -- -- -- they restrict. And whether new trial should be. Conducted no. I think all one track you won't say -- it's you're trying to encourage all McCourt. And I think there's something that has been look at as to whether her conduct was -- or not and then on the other hand -- in connection with the conduct. -- -- -- Or paint the ability of the jury to come now become what they scare -- Decision on today stand and mr. and I think -- -- overall rating is tricky agent Kenyan. In the case well I have great concerns about conduct could be your turn all that we should be tuning in but then the other and I'm not sure how this would have affected the ultimate outcome of the decision of the jury convict used end Demetric. Let me ask you this though I mean. If they are saying the attorneys for the band's singer -- saying that they should have a new trial because she what she did. And what -- rounded tainted the jury. Would they be any less tainted in their asking for this so they now gonna look for. Another venue somewhere else I mean literally we want a new trial and we want that new trial somewhere else they don't think some of the stuff is gonna follow moment there anyway. Well that would be stepped to the first step with the IndyCar. Did you judge would have to -- it. I mean that their argument to me if I'm here the attorney and SY hedge come on but effective for me to -- like. I want a new trial and I want to someplace else I would ask the question at the same time because if if if they tainted the jury that was here I want a jury far far far away. I I think procedurally. -- -- get a chance for the new problem we can't afford to be moved to a -- we do is okay. Was -- The court -- grant a new trial based on. Did jury being tainted by the -- post and all on top of communication with the media. Again it that's great kids. The judge would have to make a decision as to whether there ought to be conducted. Indeed the eastern district in all sort of being moved somewhere else and you appear medically it's a you know I still think market conduct a fair trial in. They won't -- -- captive who bought beer question jury on these particular issues to make sure that they. Aren't going to -- Prejudge prejudicial against the defense so look out. Now as the saying that -- it would woods would with the prosecution I'll come and go by you know what now where there have been a -- do this that that puts a stain on console well. I mean instead of what it is that he should remove the whole trial someplace else or is it easier to bring in. You know vote won't want to hear of a hundred whatever possible jurors someplace else and then bring in twellman two alternates over here and just put him appear and we in agreement all our. I'm an army logistical question when you do consult with that you -- from Louisiana yeah Alaska and Charles and Shreveport a -- that. And you know you have a different jury pool all I mean you Miami jury pool that. Is not familiar -- The good and bad reputation you know couldn't -- -- don't police department and they may not be true that you wish the issues regarding the prosecution or you just turn all that. Don't know so. I think the PR -- her arm -- and let's get a new golf course. And that last week -- the new trial will address -- and other issues. Are changing and you that prop. Misconduct by prosecutors knew not what we're acutely that the prosecutors. Prosecutors becoming a witness College Hockey issues get good neutral corner. I got to the question Mario subway and I can inherently wrong so good good good doesn't -- and your calls a question you've got questions about this. 260 -- 7866889. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I got things that like -- ex parte. Review and things like that and just been married for two different disciplinary boards. What kind of disciplinary action could that could be taken. All the way up to disbarment I doubted what could that be the case and then what are some of the things. And also the sealed documents. Their -- feeling some documents and and there in those documents that might find other information will those particular passengers -- now unsealed. Why are they -- -- -- -- coming to some of public trial why these supplies all the -- -- So that and more got a bunch of questions what does this series and attorneys have long from the conscious are you some holes of all things legal here in WW on Sunday mornings just for grass is closer to get a couple Paul Konerko are back -- it was no -- 87 and WWO. All coming an a couple of things under way here Clark heard of the day. New Orleans voodoo by the ultimate Christmas gift this holiday season purchasing. Tony thirteenth season tickets -- half price to -- to games. Be a part of the excitement of marine football up close smash mouth football your choices seats in the lower sideline to sideline her upper club -- line all half all of us. New Orleans voodoo partial answer right now my -- -- stuck on the going to be fund. Actually that is fun but it -- games or who to six only seven is an overdose and serious my guests to. Attorney at law host of all things legal here on WW -- we're talking about the well I just all our our new story refers to it. Yeah is the Chrysler confidence in the US attorney's office. As David Blake's a story that's on -- On our website there's also an interview when they were Tommy Tucker speaking with. -- with the same directly and through creek who is sort of the is an injustice integrity project executive director. Tommy interviewed him this morning can hear that interview if you click on the link on our on our story there -- sincerity I'm looking I mean I'm I'm thinking back of the of of the judge's comments lying you're using wires to convict liars is no way to pursue justice and I'm looking at some of those. The paperwork in in this sort of thing. It just. Contrary to the sophomoric antics described -- above and got all bunches of comments. From the -- dot com articles made by -- on and mend and whoever else all the different names of their. Contrary to the sophomoric antics describe here in about it must always be remembered that federal criminal prosecution of individuals is not a game. It is not a sport or some grant competition where quote winning. Above all else is everything rather it is a search for the truth. Following irrefutable evidence -- reasonable logical and fair and fences. Influences. Grown from such evidence while maintaining the highest standards of professionalism and ethics expected of all lawyers across the country goes on about that. But the -- this thing is. The very appearance of any attorney acting on behalf of the United States of America participating in such conduct. Should be dealt with promptly in harshly the integrity of our criminal justice system requires as such -- cavalier attitude toward the truth. Cannot be indulged by any jumped at any juncture level. And they goes on and on talk about home back kind of stuff and I had a a whole bunch on the question but I mean that's what it boils down to these judges again a little PO about all this kind of stuff. The spartans aren't with the with the the judge in -- in the Danziger case and and the sentence and handed down. Yeah absolutely calm I think again. When you you know we're we're trying to -- -- there -- you have. All of their cars and give a standard and -- you know the rules are enforced in. And forcing the walls and -- memoir obligation at all won't secure portion and basically. Are judging ordered. Prudential. Decisions. Are hall. Part of the allegations against and in check Twitter covered up facts that should have been this close. As saying he basically said he is that the prosecution. There's also covered up facts that should have been the -- turned politician and he was talk -- are you that. -- -- -- -- -- He came to go and not -- -- pleased settlements or actually we can. Each original artist clearly disturbed are all. He US attorney general -- actually especially since. All well and I think Jim what went to a record Joba. Himself Eric -- Investigation matters saying that since this is all we're aware well no wonder leaks within the -- -- -- continent. You know extreme it would sit at the table. And our. You have to turn you on. That tradition as the gospel truth. And so a lot of that was -- certainty judging people let it be known and has. The order or like you sort that he was wasn't happy about it. Well I mean we did some of the gospel truth and it does he not have. The authority to. I'm a -- like this army and among the most famous reference I can remember quickly is is Jim Brown former insurance commissioner. Went to jail for six months for lying to an FBI agent he asked to see the FBI agents notes. The judge wouldn't show when they wouldn't it you know wouldn't wouldn't let him record the conversation. The FBI agent referred to was no said he said this and ending don't -- and a way to men and women let me see the notes and then they wouldn't give it some sort of went to jail for six months so that right there and then this stuff that's going on here. My first thing is going to be I'm talking to you whether whether I am an attorney or not unless I can record everything and I'm likely not to talk to you -- So I mean how are they able I think this just makes their job that much harder because. I -- not the -- I'm on the site you I don't trust him I don't trust what you gonna do. I don't trust that you have. The video I don't trust the job justice. As the sole load gold that you're trying to achieve here. Because you know I have evidence in front of me that you don't. So. -- -- you know I think it's almost civil liberties could turn one when approached. Our government. Had you target and actual -- prosecution our entire combat education and development they have the full force the United States government here really. I think the government. A lot of times we believe these civil liberties or road. As citizens. Or. -- very very difficult position without a lot of protection. So. I mean very important that he -- -- -- -- -- allude to this that you have the restraint played by the rules because. A lot of ways it is furious finish and especially -- he's -- secondary players these prosecutions. You know -- my -- DS cardinal is usage was targeted -- who worked harder it's somebody you're associated with them. He you know he might win the battle. You might lose the war because you don't -- -- -- -- and -- -- Yourself against the whole full force of the United States. Yeah whom also by the way I -- pay taxes some basically beat myself to stay far does that -- don't go anywhere doesn't -- my guest but chain -- is just chomping at the -- tells what else going on and we'll come back for more misfortune on the freedom I'm gonna -- on the -- seventy WW all music -- -- examining as our number here my guest is -- this area attorney and host of all things legal here -- WWL and we're talking about. You know I'll tell some more than a -- questions or for you but I -- -- some -- -- stuff and their two. Because the there's a state audit here that has gone on on the -- in legislative owner. Has thrown a few rocks at the Orleans criminal and civil court spending the insurance in the extra money that they spent. Going to bear who nannies that they have to go through to be judged every year we -- talk about that too because this boils down to look it's -- it's. The bottom line is a level of trust I mean. There we are a nation of laws okay fine. But at the people who enforce the laws have to be held to the highest standard otherwise they don't morally have. The right to question. This -- -- ourselves dug a lot of this stuff is subjective I mean I've heard other attorneys say point blank that. In these prosecutors haven't. It is within their power to decide whether or not you're the person they're going after. Or Euro witnessed or -- somebody we're gonna cut a deal -- us to go after somebody bigger than you mean bit you know who's. It's not always clear who's at the end at the end of the rainbow you know. So they need to be a line like the judge says you can't. What did he say. Sophomoric antics and this a cavalier attitude toward the truth cannot be indulged at any juncture -- You know. Well and and I think it's you know like he would alluded to this Jim Brown scenario column. I think it's a lot of times if you have the anti US government I'll just -- me not being checked. All you know. It is civil liberties can be. Somewhat being injured and again. I think it you know I think it's good to -- to -- here or -- or trillion trick or look at this because. Again a lot of times. And you know we -- scores. Of people war. Secondarily involved in this situation and look and name and are being direct involvement. NA. Criminal investigation good. If he had the US government come and actually in our -- Incoming secondary players current deal screen because they can't afford. To go against you have government cool. -- how many people did. Yeah I'm -- you -- -- I mean he he's got the money to hire a former FBI got to go dig through a bunch of stuff I ain't got that kind of money. You know and and I mean I don't know why. I don't know why I should be a Florian in my government especially when I mean. I'm not you know I'm not digging a tunnel under the border to run drugs someplace I'm just trying to make a block and end and been semi -- the school. You don't. Now let me ask you this because -- got some questions about just just some terminology and here's one this is part of the conclusion here number two. Department of Justice show recommends complies with -- -- -- -- July certain date the government shall submit its response in -- for ex -- review what is next RT EX. TI and exit export they mean he's committed. Without knowledge of the the peace and without hear another word. He's committed yet to church you give consideration on it right away and it's all all them export they would be something that is so submitted without the other hostages station as a short answer. OK and so and so they got thirty days to put the stuff and he is telling them. You gonna submitted in written that its first your response in chambers ex -- review which means he's gonna he's -- right decision right then and there. Does that also dictate like the size of it you know you can't come to me when an ex -- thing and have 500 pages you know yeah. Think export patent in this context being the judge is gonna review it without com confidential are. To see which you know Q it is relevant information in there. About a timeframe is the fact that he's gonna do an in camera on the noting down he's gonna do it ends. In his chambers and it's not going to be open which leads me to the next thing about these things being sealed. In light of the information provided here in this number five in the conclusion park. The following record documents be and are hereby unsealed and it lists several of them. Menaces to the extent the contents of other sealed documents are revealed herein. Those -- Serbs are unsealed but in all other respects. The documents remain sealed and are subject to any previously injured protective order why are. And what's in these things that would you know that would cause a judge to -- seal them Amin this was a public trial. People went to jail they're asking for new trial -- while they're still documents now that everything is over with. Well as -- general to protect the borders the eighteenth book -- -- keep wouldn't exchange information within the context for the court. Are proceeding but we're not going to change it Republicans dissemination because some time until intrusion might have proprietary patient. And I at our own nation in education diapers and nation about witnesses. You buy your personal information about. All. Other individuals ball. That would be an invasion they are receiving end here you are there value within the case is not that great known. Try to try to say -- -- locate who they might wanna keep your information private think inappropriate -- -- All. Being subjected to some type of retaliation are going to go to church. Can make calls saying you know what. -- keep in his car that outweighs. The job. Our -- The public's view -- basically fell. Well I mean aren't and they say that on the open so -- go all what do you mean you guys aren't transparent no I'm protecting people's identity is by keeping the seal. And he is unseal these certain things right now and he knows. For the sake of expediency in this in this sort of statement he knows what excerpts are going to be revealed. So he's -- OK this can be receipt risk this can be unsealed this little bit that's mentioned in here but don't go to that particular thing and think that whole thing's going to be revealed. Ira and I and I and I would guess it has to do it there's certain aspects should be home. Maybe a testimony or the problems. Babies in the blog here beyond jurors or are they may be. Certain issues that are all have marginal we do to -- -- at large -- important today an invasion of I -- it too much information out. And now think -- Marie look at it and say you know maybe maybe the trust you looked up again based on -- -- in consideration of Myanmar Oman post here also he did have a concern about. They -- to the media because there was a we can really don't want the police then you want to know how that happened I gave you strict orders. Not to leak any of this information of the plea deal. Their argument is well one day what's the big idea right. And it it was I mean that's you know when a federal judge gives you an order what happens to me if if a federal judge gives me an order and I don't follow. By -- -- -- cell phone go off a federal judge's courtroom here about you can -- simple kind of taught me and you know what happens to be done -- It has which orbits -- better bring your toothbrush because they expect there was string up. Todd nods still in my have Lindsay got out Doug I'm sorry I called them whatever you know. And it's not just is not just that the -- are gonna stop with -- is that the federal level I mean I'm an army or Marines stores about you know of assistant district attorney's. Being sent to jail for contempt to court. Because they didn't show up in this judge's court because they were in that total -- And it's like well you know why can't you guys get a a computer network together. And to have and have some meshing kind of schedules over here they don't care about then when. -- plus emphasize that too busy. Paying for a insurance and fancy she may have some trips -- you only NN conduct. He's got to go work in front of these guys. Mario. I want. Combat that's both reminded Thursday so they set anymore by -- system and causes it to stay -- -- ways. Back to -- a -- late seventies over the next hour we'll also be talking about a -- opinion polls about whether or not go shop and or is it time to uniform through Christmas -- 45% table and a poll said they just simple awesome gift giving what do you think 2670. Back Morales and back and as far as notably a -- WW on the guest has done since there were talking about. Big controversy is a crisis of confidence in the US attorney's office us on our website at WW dot com let's get to the students calling your -- column for same old high demand. Aren't you -- you know what's what's the homeless man. Well you know I think even dealt to from the local all the way up through Pineiro -- perished Jeremy state or federal. There is a real shipped home. We are into civil liberties of individuals. Or think it's it's worse as you -- all develop a latter. And bad within the last say thirty or forty years -- just got to the point where. Structured almost resembles. The completion. Of places in Europe where interest -- we're trying to get away hierro Palme. It did you wonder what the founding fathers would think. If they really need to achieve durable standard practices of all law enforcement and prosecution in this day to day care. -- you know what that might be an interesting question just to throw out their one day what do you think of founding fathers would think I mean. I'm a huge Second Amendment guy but do you think the founding fathers. Would look at them -- -- the weapons of war nowadays and think they should be in the hands of the populace some people say yes some no I think it's who you know. Are you responsible are not what about who you know your prying eyes what about all the different technologies that are out there the fact that you can't. Going on the Internet and blog quote anonymously I mean if they were only one truly wanted to do something like that take away the anonymity. Guess how many words you've just just how much that -- drop like a stone is somebody's actually able. To not post anonymously on any web site anymore you know. I don't know -- does that ever gonna happen. I'll tell a -- well as for anonymous on I mean I think there is -- concern about com. Who's not civil liberties I mean as far as governments concerned and -- and it's been -- -- debate history how much government is enough temperature much government and if necessary to protect -- and which has -- overstepping our balanced and I think. That you know it is it's a little bit of an indication and I think. I of babies. Contained behind an area or or line where -- -- you beyond reproach and get that sort of appalling part about this situation because. I think everybody defense attorneys. Everybody on each side bar the judges they are generally the community truly believe that you weren't all that was beyond reproach -- probably want to touch on all church. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- let me ask you this. Even -- all the stuff coming out there's there's still a better run office than a lot of US attorney's offices around the country. Well I went anywhere they literally the gold standard or is somebody -- they win tomorrow they also they all pretty much are pretty shining stars. Well I will either I think a good comparison was the preceding US attorneys call this home. And I think it. I think it was and again. Teacher. He just trying to let you had the support both Republicans and Democrats. Which is a very difficult thing to do in this political environment and I think that was a testament to his impartiality. Fairness. And so you know that's. -- there was a testament to him again and -- it again this and so. One of the western you'd expect perhaps it is all this at all. Always let me ask you this and I got to step with them over time. I I am I MAI think a lot about term limits. And their argument well this term limits and you know every time their selection there's term limits he got his vote -- so we if you get appointed. Like a federal judge you get appointed you to be there forever most of these guessing my -- pretty on the ball but there have been some things have slipped five. Should somebody be it in a US attorney's and I know that the US attorney is appointed by the president. -- should somebody be in the US attorney's office for thirty or forty years should they only begin their 1215 years before they get too big of ahead and start. Posting stuff online because they think there you know. Clever and above the law. Fear that carry out serves as they are pleasure the president down talk about the people in the office. I'll play and then again you have to turns. World and they all serve at the pleasure of the US attorney. So 88 delegates makes you lose the casino I got a little while I got a subway hang on -- market analysts.

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