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12-5 2:10pm Spud talks to Harry Rosenberg about Jim Letten

Dec 6, 2012|

Spud talks to Harry Rosenberg, Former U.S. Attorney, about Jim Letten about his resignation.

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-- -- All right we saw. Continue this -- will also voted upon later on probably very well. -- -- -- -- Comes up these sort of warm toward the City Council passing that rate hike. But right now still in studio here we're waiting for Harry Rosenberg hook us up. I don't know if his blog name is eighteen point 52 -- I'm not sure but we're trying to hook up when I'm on the phone former U US attorney. Joining me in this dirty though is former assistant US attorney former assistant district attorney. And now attorney attorney -- foreign we're talking about of course the big news. You US attorney Jim Clinton resigns. We played his press conference where he was it didn't take any questions. Because of ongoing round room legislation or not ongoing investigations you can't really. Answering questions but he. He had big goal. Send off he's resigning and retiring as of Tuesday. Now he's resigning and retiring as of Tuesday but we'll stay on to help with the transition. Right but I have a smile on my face because now. You've got that jingle in my head that I can't get that path I thought -- -- -- -- wily bugs do not sign there they can however some I think Harry Rosenberg bet that in other pumps in the minor. But he he's gonna try to still get his -- -- we're taking your calls and comments on a -- -- semi -- W on the numbers 2670. Our text messages here -- 787. Operating opinion -- at WW dot com were you get on -- Castro wrote US attorney Jim let resigned did he do the right thing or not. 57% of viewers saying yes he did do the right thing 43% saying no if he did not do the right thing what do you think he should have done. I mean should he have stayed on. He said in his press conference that he -- the decision to resign was his. Do you think it was his decision to resign chick doesn't seem to think so however. And the more I think about it and and a little bit but I know about politics. I don't think he was I don't think he was forced to resign but I think he saw some. Some clear handwriting on the wall that resignation wasn't going to be an option too much longer from now. You know but then again you know -- thought it was about ten -- -- and it turned out to be this I. I thought it was by Megan and I obviously didn't hear the part they said it wasn't about a case right you know so I missed that part what kind of sales make -- sandwich -- for my kids lunches. But now we all know what Roosevelt knows about Jim let them that it was it was a very impressive. Press conference -- you listeners called in a few minutes ago. And said it seemed like he chose his words carefully I was there and there was a prepared statement that he read that he was you read the news. Good in reading and -- -- some PS a wonderful passages in there and he did wonderful -- -- you know all -- big big glowing -- words were all America but it was definitely carefully worded and he picked his words very very carefully -- -- that's what Charles post during play semantics -- your life but you know what when used when you see lawyers argued cases to juries. But very rarely DC prepared statement today was a prepared statement. All right. Here is a text message will this -- any of this -- possible charges against politician -- who is not necessarily -- Ray -- I don't think it affects it much you know it's one possible -- doesn't affect that at all but it but let me -- of the US attorney they don't really have. How rare is -- that the actual US attorney Jim -- would actually be hands on in any case. I mean I know he was oversee and supervise. And and -- aide to a but frankly US and a former. Assistant US attorney I mean you don't do I would think on the Ray Nagin case GM Latin. Devoted. It's set up a data a day and a half last week on -- day I think he is very very involved in that case. Aren't joining us now former us well US attorney Harry Rosenberg was up there Harrington you don't how you do about it all mine and I don't know we're all just that -- going. Boiling failure and actually I don't think anybody is blowing and yelling about it and I think everybody knew it was coming I just didn't think anybody thought it would be coming this soon. I'll tell you truth I thought it would come after the inauguration. I think that's what most people thought but of course after the inauguration at the dynamics changed a little bit. And I think this allowed -- to make a decision to leave on his own terms rather than have the president of a home appoint someone to replace him. We're home. I'm which I mean that's that's kind of what I thought it was going to be is that he you know. He saw the handwriting on the wall and chick ME chicken now we're talking about it and and just he thinks that. He was told that he was gonna resign I think he made the decision because he saw ultimately that probably. Divide the inauguration it was gonna get another appointment and he just soon walk out on his own terms. So but that's I mean that's all speculation what difference does that make he's resigned come Tuesday. He's no official anything anymore. Other than somebody helping in the transition to you know anything about his replacement this guy Dana. My own team. Denham wanted to win today all you know very little I don't know I have not dealt with Dana personally I mean he's certainly a long term. All of the Department of Justice call professional he was trial lawyer handling a lot of -- -- fraud cases. He was the same year old person in the well criminal tax division. And the department of justice and he's been serving as they first. Assistant US attorney in the US attorney's office in Virginia which gets a lot of high profile cases. Well and then in that position he served well he probably know or not once but. Not once but twice. Are not once but twice the. All -- filtering Sonia. I've got to keep the fat man on the phone is as good foot putt on. A Dana has served not once but twice as Leo well acting US attorney only in Virginia. Why is he who does he not wanna take a regular gig -- they just never handled it better. Well you have to ask him that when he comes down but I I think normally you you get it when they ask if you will on the -- get mom and the you obviously is a long. Term career person and well. That's the reason he was selected disservice. Acting US attorney. Caller on two occasions and now here's the third time in Louisiana. So clearly on the attorney general have a lot of confidence -- -- -- believes these. An experienced hand and is able to come down here and and well handled the oversight of the US attorney's office during the interim period. Do you think his look and ask somebody. I mean this okay so -- trust this guys has been around long time. This will be his third go round as as an interim Kyle got interim head coach in Oregon in a news attorney there you go is parallel in law. How long do you think he's gonna hold they dig into all armed -- mean. There is the president that anxious to appoint somebody or do you think we're gonna see somebody. -- really like from out of the area who has the DOJ's come seems like complete trust. And who has absolutely no ties to to anything going on over here until you know. The audience that the move the US attorney's office just like a huge hit in the trust department in arming. On an example which assign enough come on unfortunately don't have the crystal ball the Czech girls are the most. Will take your -- that looked a little -- does that alone. I think that it's likely to be someone from this area I think -- chick would agree with mail Matt it's likely going to be someone from the that was somewhere in the thirteen parish area that comprises the eastern district of Louisiana there are a lot of qualified lawyers. Who could serve over as the US attorney. Taught and I'm sure that we hardly heard a bunch of names of bandied about and on the senate Landry gets to. Suggest some named to the president. All the attorney general may or may not augment those names on and then David is David -- senator bidder gets to -- and on whether -- that person's going to be approved -- not approved. -- prompt these senators and Louisiana that's. Typically the the way it works or not -- I don't think even with all this activity today that it can change from that pattern. Let me -- let me -- for -- -- we come -- also take some calls and severely into somebody's question -- -- This is strictly an appointed her appointment from the president right then I mean it doesn't need approval by congress great it is approval by the Senate Committees approved by the senate just like a mostly I don't know that. Correct not like a district judge. Or any -- federal judge home. I did not know that our current okay well I mean I knew that I knew that the two senators had a lot of weight about it. You know who gets chosen for I didn't know they had to get approved -- and play well you've got to pass an FBI background -- denominator here. Well -- pretty much rides off into every little illuminate juice but I don't know Larry and I. All right we'll be back normal life. Harry is already past that always got a much better gig now I don't know why you wanna give up that -- to go back to that didn't go -- there are not good judge -- well. That's an outline maybe I would get some phone calls and more -- most of us are out of that is get a couple properly out of our back. Six or eight in which came on before we had -- we played a -- Clinton's press conference again so we. Kind of -- up but still a chance for us to talk joining us on the phone is former. US attorney Harry Rosenberg. And and we're talking about Jim -- or. I don't know his status for his retirement his replacement. The relationship for the judges that are going on over there I mean how PO to some of the judges. Up inside the courthouse is open there Harry with that with some of things that Jim Mann and and sound -- is a mile away Sal pal consonants. Sent a text message read that text message seminaries keep talking -- once -- guys back I'm afraid I. When Vincent Bruno called up here a comment was made I don't know if I made it prevents made an Arnold Arnold would call making it but. He he's obviously listen up there made a statements on Michelle -- semi attacks on my cell -- he says checked. Police corrects but I never leaked grand jury material ever. All right so we put that out there I I don't have a recollection of Sam -- but sometimes I get to talk generally fast. Harry. There's an article on here and we're going to propose an article in our hum -- -- web page -- WW dot com. Let -- resignation screws up the judicial system this -- from a watchdog. And screws up the judicial system how does that screw up the judicial system. Well I don't know what the context of that comment is -- that really the it its -- The resignation Miller. Retirement from the -- to. US attorney's office and Department of Justice I don't think it has any impact on the federal judiciary you have to moment ago about. Some of the comments. All that federal judges and I don't play that own. The -- orders of the opinions that were issued within the last thirty days but two different federal judges one. From new -- and very judge panel -- one from Texas judge federal presiding over the Broussard case or pretty harsh and pretty direct and to me at least mile an experience all war. History making in the sense a judge down here. Recommending that. An assistant US attorneys conduct to be repeated. Body officer disciplinary council which oversees all licensed lawyers throughout the states. And that that the issue was raised by judge Engelhard at least. -- -- In his order that the it has to be determine whether any criminal infractions occurred as you result of the conduct by one or more assistant US attorneys. That those were some pretty strident comments and -- a major -- right there in the studio I don't recall ever hearing a federal judge. Making those types of suggestions about the conduct of the federal prosecutor. Paul and -- career. Absolutely not Larry I totally agree with -- that he knows a fifty page opinion and he went into great detail about. Who was sitting where -- what comments were made who is under oath. Who denied to reading Nolan dot com I mean it was it was almost like he was a prosecutor himself and laying out that fifty page opinion. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- My concern is -- every bite part about what happened led the US attorney's office and on the educators. Could go wrong way. I think one the big problem that the federal prosecution. Is beyond rules and probably didn't. FBI agent where they -- modern time they don't have to. Tape recording and you know in years they don't have that they have cameras being there and -- he had so many case -- criminal wrong. And I -- it to the FBI really. And -- instigating pieces at all. And which goes politic the US attorney and I think the US attorney. You know takes a -- -- they comment from the FBI. And then I'm just think you know upon. Got -- insurance commissioner who is. To quit that everything in the end I'm guilty of lying to the FBI. And have a big influence and I think they had a relationship where you can and parent only. And navy and caused a lot of conviction. In nineteen. Appreciate it comments on that because I know. Well yeah you go him. Well -- is gonna say -- I'd written down while letters talking jump around the commissioner is talking about two. All of which found not guilty of all the substantive charges but was tagged for making false statements to. FBI agent and what he tried to do of course was to get the rough notes that the FBI agent and the district judge is now quarter appealed judge it would not. Given those Roth notes all they -- was to report from the FBI agents get no recording you had no video you name and have a Roth no changes said -- the polished report by the FBI agent. And I think that's -- that's certainly reasonable. Complaint by a lot of people in terms of that process. What happens if I'm being interview by the FBI and apple on tape record. They'll shut down the interview on the spot they won't conducted. So as long as I have an iron so it's like agree with -- wolf bay -- where wolf for some garlic to vampire power whip out a tape recorded the FBI it's not gonna ask me anything. They're doctors do not think the big surprise Paula to the government was when Mark Titus. Who's being tried now with Dominic says -- -- was apparently secretly recording conversations with prosecutors and agents. -- unbeknownst to them. Which doesn't make them look through sharp. One more thing and I got a break for the news accession to -- a -- let me read history -- man is innocent until proven guilty is attacks on them. As far as I know -- still there -- has gone as you well know it can be anybody behind their computer -- and could be. -- and variability let wrote a letter to the judge saying it was Jan -- And she hasn't stepped up consider what she is not a not -- okay Wheldon it's almost around our. I got to go to the news I got a animals throw some more stuff into the -- I appreciate what you jump in Harry I'll hang onto -- tomorrow if you wanna stay but I got to step away right now. I know I understand go ahead but I'll hold on to wanna -- -- really -- later. I do thank you don't go anywhere right now -- aims to bring us up to date there will be back for more and we're also gonna throw more stuff into the -- We're gonna talk about the the sewage water board rates are gonna go up the City Council just voted on that would take your comments on that went to a we get back here in the big 870 W Libya back on as much on a B 870 WW object for a had to take off Harry Rosenberg former US attorney -- my -- -- this half hour. We're talking of course about Jim let resigning amid a scandal that we have lots of stores on our page at W dot beyond dot com speaking to Harry about. This and the impact of this -- it's -- it's not gonna affect anything else Alaskan chick tune in I mean how how hands on. It's a cause they -- and a day and a half last week that that Clinton actually spent on the on the Nagin thinks how hands on. Is the real guy in charge there -- When I mean when you -- the US attorney how how many phones did you have in each one of the cases that went through your office. Well don't use measures but because I'm afraid I'm micro -- torture is not the greatest -- done on -- I think kids you have particularly given the fact that. Called the US attorney's office says increased. So. Greatly within the last ten years that it virtually impossible to be involved in every case to members not just a criminal matters are also civil cases. That the US attorney's handling for the federal government to. And so it's hard to be involved when people in every matter when people look. Saw Chris or criticizing Jim for not knowing everything that was going on you know he in effect could not know. Everything that was happening both end here every employees. All professional and personal lives 24/7. They -- -- -- employees earlier. Well I would say at this point he's -- probably gotten access -- a 150. Including staff. So it's it's a sizable law office man and and even then all you -- it in Whittier CEO whether you're running a business we're running her. The radio station are all running the school board you're just not going to be able to know everything that's going on in every individual life. And even even with the fact that Jim I believe was very close to -- very close friends -- -- sell and with others in his office I mean he was always accessible but he was also doing other things as well he was out there. All interacting with the public the making community appearances as you know all. And -- -- maybe he volunteers at the -- war two museum -- help them rebuild the up to rebuild the -- Higgins boat itself on and rebuild that PT boat. Yeah I mean that he has a very active guys very dedicated to his family his community. Well and so it's hard it's hard to second guess someone -- not knowing everything that that everyone is doing. All from me until midnight. Married to 627 is a number 86 succeeding learns early semi ms. -- another call. Rod -- overnight Oswego high you know running things and -- Yeah OK we'll put our outbreak basically typically you'll both the wood frame. -- -- -- -- a guy who very open market but you know that bet all the that the bulk of the above reproach. It would -- would get that look up pick the ballot he needed that eventually there will be needed to do believe he can do what that would. And a lot of people think that at all but won't auction because he's gone I won't be right -- -- it -- it wasn't -- -- one -- -- That they ended at all network could pick a state that was the mistake every -- who may -- a lot of people are -- believe -- -- collection apparently. Jordan all while you walk in -- Obama wasn't all that. What Eric Holder then they've worked so more -- argued that bad and it it -- what what. Personal but how ignorant. Back to the police all. Does does this their regular pouring in and out both -- is commendable bit -- how it. If Obama you're never called the what convinced that kinda general and I'm Peggy it seemed like it black -- -- -- I'll Republican. If you are almost sold gold. That is -- bother me -- democratic. All our administration that doubles. The -- blueberry and we'll all be mad even understand. What all the Jordan the government acting like they can't. At the Obama. What can also. We help though is if the it Tripoli could bring to get a practical and and how you can pack and who Powell collapse. And and that Barack Obama will be at the very L club prior that look up now. You know. Mean I -- asked -- carry your US attorney I mean does does. How much does politics play into the office when it comes to to do and -- -- to prosecute people. I mean this look like -- that we go away we go where the evidence leads us and and and frankly I've heard Eric Holder say something to those same -- too so you know. -- I've seen no indication. Obama's volatile politics affecting. All decisions to prosecute or they conducted criminal investigations are not -- -- would Rodney was cyanide don't. Agree with everything but I do agree with the fact that. Just the removal of the top person on does not cause the office to shut down and no person is. Is indispensable all you do is walk through the cemetery and you can he can be -- dog convince quickly that. All those people thought they were indispensable or are not. So the fact that there's been -- change and nothing changes is good frequently on this was the chief Jim had a record. Term as US attorney Talbot upright people bring a fresh perspective to it. Well but. The fact is there's still a lot of people who are over there twirling day in and day out. They're not the just turn they don't get all the recognition but they're handling the cases without a lot of fanfare and I think they will continue to do that. No and that's why I was asked do I mean you micromanage but -- -- I mean you're not a great example but using you as an example how many. Phones did you have in the cases because -- is not a micro manager so we notably less than that. Well Amanda and I think ahead -- all. All ten -- in -- all of signings -- is that and even even doing Matt I think there's so many cases bell and the and the office says. They've gotten so much larger well then when always there are almost twenty years ago that. It's it's virtually impossible. To be involved in in every investigation. In every trial on and what you need to do is manage and that's what Jim did. Effectively. Okay I got a subway and Enron they appreciate your call thanks -- got more calls common. I got Harry Rosenberg I want to keep -- one more segment to -- a couple more questions anonymous are weighing heavy into this Susan one more thing there. And our allies I have no expertise and usual order boards all the way off the club of. It that way that this lawyer Augusta avoidable we come back and hit two at a couple more things and and and -- willow will move on forward Susan want more like I've called Islam an affiliate -- -- enough of that to. This Jim -- thing is very very important. Mark my question is though it was like running brought up something. -- should should people be an ass -- this soup should people be amount office for that long. -- a maternal and discussion somebody I know look -- bar BA and Engelhard if they're brilliant. No I hear -- don't tell me how brilliant they aren't judges but should they be in there forever should shouldn't they have a twenty year lifespan -- much power. You know so we'll talk about that briefly when we get back Harry Rosenberg former US -- my guests for government Jim -- resignation. From the US to turn our back gonna bug showed a big examining everything. -- might just. Inside Harry. Rosenberg former US attorney my last round of questions on on on Jim Clinton's retiring today. While his his press conference he's gonna resign and retire effective Tuesday he will stay on when he is a very short time to help in the transition what do you think that means very very mean flight from now took the first of the year two days at. My expectation I had no chance talked to Jim -- but I would like you know a couple of weeks bring you through the end of the and the calendar year. On approaching the inauguration day. Let me ask you this now we the last caller and I'm -- text messages responding to him on both sides. Should somebody be in that kind of power that long not only not only you know okay US attorney is gonna get replaced. But a judge a federal judge I mean and should I I I'm I think appointing somebody and I'm not Hammond to be elected. Is a good idea because then they they have avoided the politics they don't have to answer and anybody anymore. What's some people sit in the house and those chairs for like 3040 years. That's a long time to have that kind of stroke or order or because some of these things -- so complex they really don't hit their stride till they've been in their twenty. Now and I'm here in I've been thinking about that during the break on I think they. The issue really is that the that the founders of the country and they -- up with the declaration on the constitution says look we're -- on. Have all federal judges appointed. For life and there are they're appointed for life to create independence of the judiciary. You don't have that same ability with certain. All legislative bodies spit on in the states for example you don't have that ability -- -- the United States. I think it is there's think Robby mentioned. A good idea to have change and but that's up to the president generic issue with the president United States wants to exercise his or her discretion to. People United States attorney more to the terms that's up to them they could keep them for one term they can keep them for one year and then. And then remove -- also they have some discretion their -- There there's certain statutory and and philosophical issues. That under law like all of these issues whether they're term limits are not term London whether someone's gonna stay or not are not stood. Well -- Francis -- -- to use common in his 28 years Latin is Tony eight. Let us Tony eight years you said it would between being an assistant and then bring US attorney for a muscle lemon or IE he is. You know he he's got. That the 28 years of service I'm also talking about that. I'm talking about people like who have been inside the beltway. For thirty and forty years calling the shots that I don't think they should do that should somebody beat an assistant US attorney. Inside a one particular attorney office for more than twenty years so that their heads get real big -- I mean -- what prompted. A pair Tony and and Nigerian man to be making these kinds blog comments you know do do they get and arrogant to you again carried away means. I mean -- hobbies are obviously stupid decisions you know Ryan and I can understand the stress that they're operating under there but also. Like -- sit down on the air one time these -- the people who decide whether I'm a witness weather around the defendant and they can change your mind tomorrow and I got a lawyer up some more. Well that try to mandate there's no question they have a lot of discretion there's no question that they have a lot of responsibilities. Than their. -- caring some heavy responsibilities on the shoulder and part of it is that they -- unlike the defense lawyers. Like chick or other they're not able to talk to the press and I'm not supposed to be able talk to the press has pushed it. Keep everything within the confines of the department of justice's walls and so you have that in part is going to be frustrating on a personal level. But in terms of whether they ought to be a cap I think you know that is up to. Congress that is up to the people to decide we have caps in certain areas we don't have caps and others all and in those areas where we don't have them whether it's a schoolteacher -- and assistant US attorney they conservatives as long as they wish her as long as are supervisor of the -- All right. I appreciate it the Aaron I know you're busy guy here. Well mom saw a little wait hang up and lectured lectured -- mail about the extra money coming to -- the answer -- water. Boy that's that's that's yeah I -- the bottled water there Erica up as ethics in the double is gonna crank up when you're pretty quick and I. Out of our -- -- your body pre video at a time Harry Rosenberg former US tour has a great guy and have a chance to sit down just yet we're enemies -- felt all right. Us got in Kenner -- boy AM -- we come back we'll close this is. The mix now the City Council here in the city don't want. Has voted jail most Stacy had wanted to postpone it but that didn't happen -- voted against them for the City Council has voted. True and raise your sewage -- water bill rates they won't stumble over the next street eight years they were raised 10%. Every year. There it is what do you think should -- but -- I know it's necessary they need to find money to fix the problems -- -- should they have done it with a bond. Are you approve this do you not like it would -- that's just the way it's going to be. And should there be some fact the end where the rains come back download it once once they've actually fix everything. Six only 786688. Our backgrounds but -- -- big examining every Demi Ellis we've been talking about Joseph -- Just from -- waterborne Susan water burn in this god isn't -- I don't Scott thanks for -- men. -- RI 26 Boeing seven is a number 86688908. Syria told Brian here's. Well Susan airborne be able to this deal miss bill and the money again. Did so over last fifty years that's why no maintenance or upgrades were done what's to stop them this time. Here's another one -- I think these hikes are going to be a CCC tolls all over again. After the upgrades are paid Delphi and an excuse for not lower the rates. And let's see here's one more if you're -- you got do you keep your job Harry Lee was there were 28 years I really was elected officially won a point and that's different I still don't think anybody should be 120 years so this I said that to. Who's the sheriff of Saint Bernard Jack Stephens said it to him on the phone we were talk on Monday what would you say that's a Jerry -- yeah. You know he got elected and I mean in but I don't think anybody should be sit in that job more than twenty years. -- ago isn't on the text message our cheese and Warner drilled those wells. More money for the Susan -- -- just parish here I com. So there you go here's one more go in this Jim -- appointed positions are more political. Our local fire and police chief I'm delighted council about budgets -- they'll be removed -- they're -- -- merry go as far as all of this is in the pot 26 -- examining. 8668890. A seven inch hole for Miami affiliate semi -- -- Syria. So we're gonna talk about the sewage to water board rate -- going up. It's going up your rates are going up would you have preferred that they do with the bond that had a time limit.

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