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12-11-12 3:10pm Open Lines on negation of Saints' player punishments

Dec 11, 2012|

Spud takes your calls and reactions to the news that Paul Tagliabue negated all player suspensions resulting from the NFL's allegations that the Saints ran a "bounty program."

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A new way at a high -- An imperialist budge on obligates ebony WW 26786688. And zero it's seven -- told regard. Out of a three and breaking news with Paul Tagliabue the former NFL commissioner who stepped and one Roger now accused himself from the bounty. Scandal. He has if you haven't heard he has he has vacated all the suspensions against president former saints players. And it comes in about it now he said that they basically that they did things that were not conducive to deploy in the NFL. But primarily what they did does not warrant the the suspensions and he blames the coaching staff and the front office staff and the saints. For causing and also muddying the waters. Want sure somebody evidence that he's looking out of the affidavit Gregg Williams wrote at the behest of Roger Goodell. Which was not something that was written in the very beginning of this it was written a couple of days before Vilma was asking for information. So whom you know who do you think dictated rules and that. Anyway that's what we're talking about today is -- -- Paula WW dot com to 670 as the number 866889087. In total reliant. The ruling is and Paul Tagliabue vacated by a player -- suspensions. -- more blame on the coach is an organization that the players did he get it right did get it wrong 69%. Abuse and that it got it right call me up or send me a -- got to read a couple of these text and illustrate your phone I got one open line you can jump on Nevada. Super Bowl teams are not supposed to have home field advantage that's why the saints were singled out there's one in on the other side. Please reads but important. All you people think this punishment from body gate is about mr. Roger not wanting us things to be able to complete at a high level. Compete at a high level so we will not have the opportunity. The play in the Super Bowl and our own backyard. You'll looking mighty ignorant please don't say that. You're the only person as -- is that a conspiracy theory yeah. It is a conspiracy theory. But you never know hit them. You never get you get the level somebody arrogance appeared in heaven -- Goodell may have had something to do it if he was that high and mighty -- it and they wind in the open up. Today's the first day that -- lawyers got to see this information they've been touting all this evidence that they had but they never showed. Mean that was the call six months ago while we got the -- -- -- it -- and had a -- god. So that's one of the reasons -- almost kept bringing them to court so that they would actually have to have to follow the rules of evidence. Of the federal court instead of just being able to say I got evidence -- been shut -- And they went. So announced that Goodell stepped aside Tagliabue steps up. He is still not. You know build the perfect person to arbitrate this as far as the players association is concerned. Because not only is -- former NFL commissioner and he is also working for a law firm that represented the -- So he's got a dog in the heart he has not completely. Disassociated from -- however that's with the majority of our opinion poll responders think that he did get it right with his decision making. So one more time you really think it's a coincidence that the ruling came out after the saints were officially eliminated from the playoffs. Tagliabue could have done this two weeks ago but in wanna give the saints a moral boost going in the last two game. A morale boost. So Diego and there's another one as fans I say we protest at the Super Bowl to block. You make it again anywhere near that it's not gonna because of the Constance because all the people who are trying to go in there to see their team win. Days ago -- 2601 a 7866889087. -- told what do you think cabinet Slidell thanks -- and on Europe on W Libya. I don't do a good bit thanks for college thing. -- I'm glad we have got Richard. I want I don't ribeiro all. I would probably. -- -- -- Has ordered a football. Well well but -- -- if there is Roger Goodell wrote in the game of football or is he trying to preserve the NFL. Based on former players in the lawsuit that their -- 4000 people in a suit that's can be heard up in Philly. It's the the -- in the game of football or or is this lawsuit. Doing that and his response to a -- and help. Well. Restore -- vote. Well but passionate. About a trickle. I'm. Glad that you. Will replicate where there's. A lot of these critical. Not the well you know what. When when that was first brought up I said I -- that and I didn't see any ground and I'm a -- And -- to bring in a suit somebody on the northstar has brought a suit it's a long shot. You know put stranger things have happened will this. With a vacation of the vacating of its. It. Man I don't know probably it probably won't do anything to help that -- well. Now it probably won't because there and I mean that's one of the arguments lawmakers -- you know -- -- this we've we vacated. But there argument is zero on the season so I don't know somebody sent a text message to says it was a little too late. They -- that can be there of their argument immensely but that's suits and if that suit does go forward that's going to be years down the road to me. Water rise so -- up by double BR. -- -- like it will Wear. A. Maybe maybe all but. Well but the thing that is a -- that's what the teargas and that's what a lot of people listen that's what that's that was brought. The people who ended up getting screwed in the -- fans. I thought we don't pay a lot of people what a bit. And I work on pop market there's little. I mean not. Like that took this particular photos of -- about a week. We all got who all -- Yeah and it also makes you think about. Do they actually honestly care I mean do you believe for instance when when our players tweaked. That they're concerned about the fans and do you believe that when the NFL representatives say that kind of stuff do you think they can. Think I think on the player level I think the players to care about the fans because they're the ones out there chomping at the bit and then look at from the twelve men on the field. But when NFL leadership in the NFL upper echelons. You know the details such actually physically talk about the fans. I don't think they feel about on the same players. I bought it. Yeah our man appreciate it thank you for our -- -- on home. -- all right we're gonna go to a traffic report now because everybody is going to be. Everybody is going to be and no home over here and are concerned about Tagliabue o.'s decision let's find out what's going on make it safe to -- home in your in your. In your commute today I got about to open lines and I got to stacks and stacks of text messages. So will be taking your calls and comments about this operative in the -- Also you can -- you can read the entire report. Ball on line in the -- go to the new -- when you see the picture Goodell. I mean of Vilma stand up there then that that you can click on that -- new story and that'll take you to link. That'll let you read the entire -- to -- aged Paul Tagliabue decision. You re Bobby's comments about all this and he got a lot of cash you voted operative and -- WW -- on 7% say he gotta write with a vacating of the sentences. What do you think spots or get a couple -- But a whale will be appearing till the 22 in a Christmas Carol from southern rapid CAC go to southern rep dot com. For your tickets they did extend the run and they're selling so when woods is -- of this the really cool shall bring a -- for him to. 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Show on is in Harry -- I don't John thanks for comment. -- -- -- -- more on what's well I do want is one thing I did like the nickname this year is the year of the black and gold played. Everything as modular as you -- you players. And then out into -- total scumbag he made it sound. Training camp. Gave details about the players who can't combat. Training camp built on the Super Bowl games being. All the -- read walk out. Almost all the com -- conveniently put that number double without training camp while being an advocate general not only -- five. Well not only that but I mean again their concern about player safety but the talk about going to an eighteen game season is still. Poverty around out there he puts the replacement refs in -- -- Honda to take him to sit down and figure out something when the following up that really bad calls couple bad calls on row. Didn't take him long at all to knock this out to vote in all they're concerned about player safety is a bunch. And I'm totally involved is you know it's an old congress that it that it live bullet. I'll never be cold chill pretty main thing to put in all the airlines declined greatly from. Mike several well what looked at the comedian club. I don't know that's a good question. And a lot of you know -- Gregg Williams is still out immigrant can go watched his son be the defense that coordinator. Or coached defense in in Saint Louis -- can watch the games Sean Payton got to see the one game Drew Brees broke Johnny Unitas is -- that's that. You know I don't know I don't know. I'd like if you'll come back that completely sold in little changes to see. Yeah dead. Every vehicle called down on the put the game initialed negated all the it was quite -- How are just like to see -- be able to cut if the saints once the saints are. If they if they don't make the playoffs and they play their sixteen games and that's it wouldn't let something come back but as it stands right now. He's still out until after the Super Bowl the next day. After the -- bubble that Sony can come back if I'm garment -- that should be it should have been. When the saints finished their last game regardless of what that game was. -- -- -- -- -- other black and gold two days. A black and go play John did a man you're a man 2601 -- seventy loops and Biloxi was the problem. On that now I want. It bought it. And it. Again the right thing in it illegally that it is like the article Iraq. I mean look I mean -- who now. And the things you agree the -- and so. We had a lot of players. On the -- -- -- -- That would make suitable. Whip out this. Market. So. -- Like out this guy at all on. What is all around and actually in the superdome and not the same play lacking any -- the boy but go. I mean that they did it would. I don't know maybe needs to sit down and -- and and ride out a letter exactly what's been dictated to him buy him out. Yeah it they really mean -- -- On the well. Let's look at. Yet he will let -- ma ma ma ma Y -- like you know I ran grandma airlock and he. Get this ship that that -- should have been done it is commissioner and all about India and India and now look at. We're always. I think I gotta tell you the truth I think a think Tagliabue those decisions today. Were you know a year you're saying that he shouldn't be should've vote handed it over. Goodell should handed over Tagliabue along time ago I think I think if he'd handed over long time ago. It it would it would be a different a different story I think he he vacated. All the things today based on everything that's happened all along I don't think you did it just based on the evidence that was handed to them they if they finally had a meeting. Where where bill -- lawyers got to question Greg. Williams if data turned over a long time ago there's no saying that would have happened. And and it's all the press and everything that's happened all along this season. You know so his decision has not only based on the information that Goodell gave them but everything has been happening densities of mental process. Look at. Inflated machine and the bill. Yeah. All in an -- and I mean. Momentum law that -- -- don't. -- them momentum and you know. What. Back to the music. You know well. When it. This year actually. Like Iran. Well every year. Every year. This was like well this was breezes last chance I mean by the time it -- wreck wreck around to north he's going to be playing anymore. So that would have been nice. But every year every every team like next -- I think a place up in New York. In a meadowlands so the next year next year the giants have the opportunity to be in a Super Bowl and -- and that digestible played ML. So they can both either one of those play in one of those teams has a shot at playing a home field advantage. Next year right you know it's just ours is ours is gone this year. Are messed -- -- for the news appreciate you call Luke Shapiro says and his. More your calls and comments throughout the this -- seven and a cameo. Got a text from my buddy mark fast are up a New York Qaeda don't -- demand Christmas Day. Up there and frozen north apparent. Maybe see over there at the giants play in meddling in the atlas of global election may rubio and giants action that would be. I'll be right out of no win noted jets we would -- plated jets. That's what somebody was saying that's on trying to remember somebody some attacks it's -- they wanna see both the Manning's play. In a Super Bowl in their homes. That's right and once in FC once they tipsy yeah that's right -- Giants and and the giants or NFC and and Denver's layups. I'm learning I'm learn and it's taken me awhile. So yeah that we would have plated jets what do you think the chances of that -- of us playing the jets next year and a suitable. About as good as anybody's. Com I think it's a lot better of a chance for us and for the jets -- Cecil a trainer. True. Yeah that they have been crippled by Elvis stuff and losing other coach and then they just been crippled by the acquisition of Tim Tebow. About how can you point a finger. Because is causing a big quarterback controversy over there between him and Mark Sanchez and yet they have just been -- got to them a clear in order to McIlroy McIlroy he -- and raised him better of them will Sanchez played this week. And what data they won but they beat the worst team Italy. One of the worst one -- divorced in Jacksonville helmet and I enemy America that you know -- saying. I know bottles saying the old saying is if you got two quarterbacks you really got new quarterbacks. How old is that thing that's pretty old I wrote that and a quarter anything I'm under the tyranny any you know currency and its. It's pretty much. To get a sharply in right across the back of one in the draw black eye on the outline on top appear via that'll work okay. About a way to miss Matt Thibodeau on a tactic that repeat Tillman is -- famous pat. So on this past week and it showed Christmas 2670. Is about your phone calls Johns up and -- that was going on out there's. Yeah I'm just wondering why the ruling today does the project could go. Credibility. Because now become down acquaintances though that was a terrible but the positive when he found problems at those problems but is -- -- Amused like they did they go off at -- again. I don't know you know what I got I have this I think it's ESP into this one of these shows. And they they have two guys on their answering questions. 1 -- has like like they're Cuban accidents on the other -- got a younger guy would have via. There talked about that and one of the Thomas that they made on -- that this has this is hurt he said these things players have put a dent. In Roger Goodell some power and credibility. Tagliabue said everybody was wrong. In this whole shebang the players were wrong but they weren't wrong to the point. Where you know they should've gotten finder or suspended like that so that put a dent in crime integrity in good bills credibility. So you know. I mean he has his job is to protect the NFL I guess he was -- to the -- the visibility but maybe usability needs to be more able. Yeah and our public comment. You know you thought ought not want the plain and simple bowl. I think. I'm not -- meniscus I don't know I. Talk about does step down now one open and -- it. But what I think and I called -- the Brett for memorial -- but he changed a roof over time. I think that it that game a couple of exactly the opposite to the vikings -- got. There's -- open though a dominant go with a touchdown and -- That Rwandan government passed. And I say that because if you look at The Who global running an optimist who Bobo when it was that that what issue going to be yet. Ought to talk a little island that -- -- to use the can be Brett ball. Okay moderate and it took his team the global win is -- going to be right now. Then got his treatment is that it the best quarterback -- would second Super Bowl and it plays to help them with that not the issue proud. Now -- area I -- -- well and you know what -- gotten. I've gotten pretty. Provocative statements on this on the text messages on both funds argument. And appreciated though -- be safe out there to 6786. Exceeding dance early seventy's I told -- in line. Why are these players only suing the NFL wide outs of the college and high school that also caused his injuries. Because who the people with the biggest deepest pockets. And they don't have any kind of but you know drew that what kind of proved to they had -- they had concussions we've Beckham and way back when. In high school in Peewee. Football who knows. The latest places that they played where they can have evidence presented that they were hurt on the field. Was -- win their years in the NFL. That's where they're going to six always somebody back Lamar disclosure of the list. Here's some more text messages I don't think Payton's absence had anything to do with on the interception breezed through this year. It's amazing how fans believe what NFL player Saul when it was their team and questioned think about it. I wish Sean Payton was as loud about his suspension as Vilma and almost seems that he does have something to hide. I also feel like Williams was working the inside for someone not really sure who what when and where but there's definitely something fishy. Don't understand how ex players -- the NFL for injuries. It's like a soldiers -- in the army for getting shot they knew the risks when they signed up. Well you'll see when it goes to court. Here's a prediction the patriots -- the Seahawks and the superdome. Here's one more text them back to your phone calls I think -- l.'s biggest mistake was the only concentrated on a handful of players. There more than four players on defense. And one last one currently obviously this when -- LB plane Tivo in this. -- are you blame and the that's some item veto it -- Menard and there so earlier rocks at him -- in Florida I don't down thanks for comment. Which sit at Tom. Hey you break it up really -- animal put John hold gets a better sell an outcome street paktia Kevin's in Chattanooga made on Kevin thanks for. They're mad -- -- Are just ankle. What it's like -- early that you believed -- to conspiracy. Russia video ads produced irresponsibility prepared to see it -- choose that particular area -- country. So -- -- look at a law student -- and she actually played its OPEC now call girl okay great. About you know what I got a text message summits that that the wine and quote the plan of the NFL all along has been that and the to straighten the two Manning Brothers play in new laws that both from here which you know. You would you have to have such a conspiracy involved in that you'd have to have. All of the all of the -- in line and you you'll be able to follow that trail you know from Arabic through the flag. Absolutely. Believe it should get extra day eat how did you inspire you player and plan to football rugby ball coach at what. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Hope gets what -- to a -- after the game. I know my newspaper people and expect to gain from booty missed a chip to oppose it shouldn't well. Into this. They will say they actually tell the truth now I think Paul Tagliabue made it might be treated. IP watch it again. He has -- -- like complex like crap that would pitch I didn't have a lot. To hear it and all go to draw it out. She shares arbitrarily. Decision and teaches. Actually this. Seoul bureau -- -- Ultimately. Get hold them you'll do just do just the idea is. Correct that actually means justice and oh god yeah. -- -- the largest single event -- not mean the largest sporting event is the World Cup when the play soccer but that several games. -- just one single game period and the story I think the Super Bowl. By error error error so -- -- When he went language which are. Admit that federal court judge could propel. I think it showed that he didn't do -- to. -- came. Why didn't coached comeback might wind not cold steel out because -- -- -- a big net. And I can't Lashley I don't think you got taken -- We need to eat I eat column type or enumeration did just not yeah people on the can't talk about. He. He couldn't see big ticket holders are its its title holders. I Campanella. We we. We need to do you mean I need for the same and we dipped a bit fatigued east again you know. -- -- -- They need -- -- happen besides being ultimately return to a particular street in the end an -- pledges by jeez these look to get. And -- humane. -- -- -- first part -- -- that fellow Portland or -- or filed a suit. Again it's its chances to win and I think there's women and that's what I've heard from some people bought. Hey you know what their their people who are expressing their dismay. And their disappointment with the lawsuit and just you know hey Roger down. Is your job incidences man. And no evidence that actually attempted to watch the hole and you'll see you guys beat. Got a quarterback struggled -- wind and I would welcome to and slammed into the grass. It's all about. You need to. Get your name did you do your gang. No -- -- that game but I I've heard people talk about it I mean that's that's a slam I mean people also point to what was what was a player can't protect the gunman in the colonias. And then in -- -- tomorrow. Yeah and so -- -- -- And uncle all right. But got bad -- -- watched that game when he picked him to the ground. I'll I'll watch the entire thing trying to outlaw. Yeah I did she want to -- legal here. All well. And that was there argument that they brought up is that frankly if if if they were. If they were over the line that much you would be able to demonstrated that -- seen a lot more flags and you'll be able to see those -- those demonstrated in the replays. And where were all the fines they kind of had they -- I had room. All the -- done right then and there and then there was -- your evidence I got a subway got a new traffic. Appreciated Kevin -- -- -- -- frozen north acrimonious split surround this. -- -- -- but shortly 87 at WW of course come out of sports on the Bobby indeed live from raisin -- on Manhattan and Harvey. They'll be talking about Paul Tagliabue speaking about it suspensions -- to a lot more. In depth and meantime let's get back your phone calls this Tom in Florida -- in -- Hey we talked last stop not only are becoming in the town and I Barack. One on it and -- -- you man hurt. We have been and -- time I have been relegated. -- it's going to play. Com I felt that if -- think -- -- the players. -- and they really have no evidence. That. There were injuries. Arm and that's been repeated on programs are wanna go to again. What about. The severity. Fines and -- our varying culture happening in the collections. It it it almost seems like there -- two skill back. It seems to me that they would have to you know what that's a Bobby and Dicker MMI to tell you that question. But it would seem to me if if Tagliabue has vacated insane and they didn't do anything that band they might be put in only owned. On -- on the coaches and such. But the coach just told him to do it and they didn't do anything that -- why they got any problems I don't know -- a golf account.

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