Okay who am I. Played OK but I'm. But it is back. Common fears this thing is now there's a whole bunch of flag design such -- noon. Here in person traffic button to press the police -- and gives me. You know I control because we police and such like that they're whether Barton I don't know man this this this -- isn't too good. He used I don't know what happened to an -- to call upon -- -- -- do the show go to deal Lucio. Fix my app on my phone calls. About all all the stuff we've been talking about all day and we'll talk about that we started up today it's around the World Trade Center building where Greg rose on he is the editor of of a city business magazines somebody's in a text about him his family might own -- chest was but he has no piece of it. So whoever sent that text talk about the justice Cyprus and what -- He has nothing to do with that ceremonial stuff. Renovate that are aware are are pretty opinion -- WW dot com what should be done with the World Trade Center building renovated 39% pared down to build new. 30% pare down make a green space 31%. Those are your opinions non scientific poll here. The last hour we've spoken Melissa maybe at the beginning of the hour. About striving my kids I got to teach him how to drive now find an out of got to pay for them to go to driving school it's -- law. I don't think that's the proper law if I'm capable of teaching them well enough to drive. So that they can pass both the test that the city that the state is gonna provide. I don't know why you're making me fork out -- pocket to go and pay somebody else I need to start lobby and and I'm not saying these schools are bad and they don't and they don't know what they're doing. You know. But frankly if if if an insurance company a gimme a break tomorrow rates because I go -- that's one thing but as long as my kid can pass the driving test. With a great score. Who cares how they learned but that's -- -- that in there to joining me now though an attorney at all I ask him the same opinion. Is the world famous -- sincerity who does are all things legal here. On Sunday moments on the big 870 WW Ellis a bit -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Between three and 500 blocks to a drive in school so -- young and can get and I got to bet against are teaching now. You know -- fifteen year old a fourteen year old a fine man. Now under current got -- grand. And then and then who knows what my insurance is going to be I don't know Clark one. What armor that they've made -- pretty -- you're doing it show until -- -- -- yeah. Yeah they -- -- you know -- -- we -- -- Jack poorly but he turned fourteen yesterday. American he is like. 510. Almost 511. Weighs about 240. Are well I don't know man he's only in the -- only in the days degrade numbing -- this coaches are slobbering over him. But it's like you know what if you wanna play you're gonna play if you don't wanna play am I gonna make you put an -- they if he came home from school one day. It's -- MI out we play football today at school -- PC Louisiana tonight because. I don't know I mean I was the guy. Who. Knocked everybody down and apparently I'm pretty good -- it -- a barrier the Pope who knows meant they got him on the on the on the defensive line you know play an MP Ian he's. He's a force to be reckoned with anyway that's not -- called you -- and wants these transfers is his driver's license the Texas women talk about drive and you're gonna join me today and we're gonna -- this mix into the pot and we're gonna talk about all this stuff and since your lawyer I want your comments about everything. But this this is this apparently they're five inmates. In Florida someplace. Who have decided that they are gonna soon the -- industry. Because so always there -- Idaho us from Idaho Idaho if inmates in Idaho suing several beer companies claiming the companies didn't warn them. Alcohol could be addictive. And they never would have ended up in jail if it wasn't for alcohol. Keith Allen brown filed suit. 1 billion dollars in compensatory -- punitive damages from ten major beer and wine companies they found that in December. And his co plaintiffs are Jeremy -- Braun Corey Allen ball. Would road John grant and Steve Steve and Todd Thomson brown wrote in the suit he spent quote a great deal of time in prison. Due to quote situations in which alcohol played a major role. And that he was never quote informed. That alcohol was habit forming an addictive. Because he became an alcoholic according to the Idaho statesman the lawsuit also states the inmate's quote would have lead normal lives as productive members of society if it was a -- call according to the AP. My my first question other -- like. Win. When is an adult actually have to assume his own responsibilities. For being an adult. And and how can you not know. With all the -- if you are capable of going into a grocery store and buying booze. Then you have obviously seen enough advertisement and every time they open their my house. You you they tell you to drink responsibly they haven't written on the side of McCain and I mean. Or work what do these guys trying to accomplish -- this or frankly are they just like jailhouse lawyers were none better to do. Off I think it's the latter -- or put something better to do. A lot of you know a lot of down time and that's why they love America anybody. To anyone for any reason. It should be question is whether you would prevail -- And -- but the fact is if if if these businesses and organizations that they're suing don't respond they're gonna win by default so. Automatically I mean I gotta tell you dug this one of the reasons why lawyers got such a bad rap. Because this seems like you perpetuating your business a jailhouse lawyer can take me to court and now I got to fork out money for a lawyer and answer the -- Johnson. Yeah I mean intercom and it's become an issue that business is insurance companies a lot of time but can't they do get frivolous claims and the cost. Of our shell and the financial. Are now Obama has all been greater than the cost of defending the claims. You know onto court -- you -- respond breached and that sort of thing. That's one of the issues regarding the American -- we'll just let people trying you do that you actually trying to grab political reform our. -- those issues and two other. No way it is these guys. They don't have a sanction if they don't prevail mommy they're going to be in the same positions they were before it gonna be in jail serving their time but is going to be taking -- from them they're not going to be shut and it cost so. Why not yeah they lose or no worse position there were foolish. Our true but the fact of the matter is there in jail I mean I keep going back to the story I heard band sensible alternatives like an early eighties a solid like a Tony Tony -- some. And it was a kind. In jail for murder. And he he murdered his business partner and he -- got away with that it would have been the perfect crime he would have gotten the business himself and everything except his business partner's son. Walked in and automatic. And now this guy is perpetually so when this man this son. Because he's got nothing better to do he's in jail for the rest of his life things PO and Adam because he -- so it's -- now I'm gonna spend the rest in my life make in your life miserable. By forcing you to defend yourself in court over my nonsensical things are going what kind of fairness in the legal system is that. You know yet. An aunt and and there are certain there's there's there's there's concern. In a legal system has either got -- -- Our -- I guess our population that will do. Over. Nonsensical and appreciation day knowing. That the cost. Of defending really seats or greater than would say you know -- just I am all. Yeah but that's just sit too though I mean that's why you perpetually going down the road it's cheaper to just pay these guys off -- go away and then you're gonna stick it on the insurance companies whose gonna stick it to make. Should they not I mean. Maybe we should pass a -- -- one and number one -- like the brits do loser pays a number two you can't -- You've got to go through the system the hell with you you don't get to settle unless you're gonna eat the entire cost you not pass them off anybody and anything. Well I've -- they are like Indy in Louisiana that they have pay statute -- -- -- -- extra trees and if you follow proposed pleading. You can. -- can't get the cost. I'll follow that the proposed lawsuit -- from the person -- now a lot of times like the prisoners. They don't have anything to lose so yeah if if if they had the sanctions that they had to pay the legal cost the least dependent beer companies want of these well. How would they collect they don't have any money anyway so really there -- position where they have a lot of downtown had nothing to lose our. That's nonsense you know what and I can understand them being there. And and and filing suit spin and trying to get their their their own our convictions overturned. Dealing strictly with -- but these guys now blaming their nonsensical lies. On a beer industry and so they're gonna bring civil suit I don't think so they -- they could they should be limited strictly to -- error. Criminal dealings and that's it and if you want to practice law. And and sue somebody in the in the civil court then get yourself get your conviction overturned get out go to law school. And then you know buy some ads on TV like the -- you guys do what it does say that I didn't mean they've thought about. I don't. -- -- that the proper diet. Had a huge hospitality yet. I went their way you know I am -- I gotta go I don't go -- I -- got away it's time for traffic in the and the fog is not dismiss room we got a fun I was going home because when my guess. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 8668. And 087 in a semi Sony's recent attacks had a bunch of them of punting it calls and all of that my guest this hour. Eight -- analogue -- since airing some of us since their -- necessary law firm whose all things legal here. Sunday mornings from eight to ten. You're going to be -- -- you don't come to call -- a show to don't Jimmy -- there on my picture you know would traffic court so. Divorced a true hero beyond a lot of criminal -- But -- and not a lot of interest but yeah I mean -- -- people column being go. Man that's that's kind of like the deal but I'm in you know there but -- -- reality radio. Good way to put it as opposed to my radio which is sort of fly by night no and two letters and one on the first one is pretty. So but let's talk about this thing with the guys -- see that's -- what irks me about this is the fact of the matter is courts are paid for. Put my tax dollars. Now these guys assume for a billion dollar run off the bat when you look at this kind of self always junior for a billion dollar I mean. You first off you might take a more seriously if they sued for like we're gonna sue you for like forty or sixty mil or. You know ten or twelve mill around oh we're suing your from billions electric worker court's going. Well these are bunch of Yale loose on them. -- billion dollars because you got drunk and and now you're in jail but. I mean I got to foot the bill for this. Don't -- of them liquor industry like Megan and her for the got big a blow attorneys on retainer all the time but I mean -- like legitimate things that that got to be dealt with -- legitimate court things that need to be dealt with a talked about the judges get raises yesterday. And one of the things that brought nick came open the conversation was. Leon Ken -- shakes and our fingers that you guys don't you pick up the pace when it comes to the to the docket and get more stuff done well here this might be one of the reasons why you can't get stuff through a docket. You know is because you get stupid lawsuits like this that are that are clogging things up how many stupid lawsuits out there aren't there are -- Are gonna go I think -- there there are -- lot I mean he hit a horrible day in court. You know and it energized by your forty parts different cases on certain machines than. And the -- -- sit there and shake your head. I did hear me and you -- that's why they can be entry and that's and it's. And in the legal questions all racial -- -- how we deal with how do we deal with frivolous type. Kate is because. That they don't want to court system because they'll put it on the other hand say you know if. Everybody has their right to have their day in court today I mean these guys do -- out into -- honest forgot feel like. You know if the if -- if the writing on the side of the beer can would have been bigger. And they wouldn't notice because here I'm here is an article I got to study that was done. That says that to ten years of health warning labels on alcoholic beverage containers most Americans even those who drink. Don't notice or read the warning message Korea out of four persons and a national survey. Conducted for the center for science in the public interest said. That they would be more aware of the warning messages if there were easier to read well I mean it is kind of like you know it's there shouldn't be a little bit bigger. Our -- when when does an incumbent upon you to be an adult and just realize hey -- Doesn't it dawn on knew that this is a mood in mind altering substance and that may -- you BO -- should be a little more maturing rambling of a. I think you do I'd do this is an academic actually -- are you know in the end mr. Hayward maturity of the Wall Street is. First ball. You know it was a warning have altered his behavior as did his present behavior and no word whether -- not pick up a beer -- and about -- could say oh my goodness. You know it's this is potentially addictive auto parts to back down the -- walk away from being well that warning would it change your behaviors on one of the issues would have to be addressed in two. The bigger part of knowledge as to whether alcohol -- predictable and not -- it would be hard to believe especially because history class query. No one student. Constitutional amendment -- alcohol prohibition. And it has throughout been paralyzed. They didn't hear any clue or any knowledge. Where alcohol is addictive and may never happen to catch -- alcohol rehab clinic or had no knowledge of that. Well and that the war and then how can they even reads. Combined to go until part of buying can't -- It has a point so. And again I think justice you know it is more cases are prisoners who you know have a lot of down time. And you know or. So even even even people or can I mean they're convicted of a crime that they're blaming Abu I don't know what their crime is so but therein -- I know. You know I mean it's not exactly the most rocking the players that are here. All in about -- manslaughter grand theft and drug addictions. So don't blame a little beer you know -- -- And then -- army could take -- a step further debate you know should they to the vineyards and made a long. In -- propagate and should remain. One should they should mother nature who made the greats who may who got firm in -- into the line. Parts of the year -- all of -- -- evening and weekend. It's don't normally would have to be -- to cases is that the the beer companies in this case -- -- exceptions I hook Khalid allegations are true it still have a client LR com a lot of good judges. Who you're gonna have. What will dispose of these -- -- case has -- -- gets. -- Why did the judges -- -- -- icon and adjust to look at doesn't go on get out of here. How would they could is that -- can you -- Defendant's -- you know why public -- as simple. A brief prayer book. He can't always allegation in -- being true which were not you know you word it. He's still don't have a client brought out right now and and they have emotions like that and clr atrocities really client -- you know you read the paper. It's so and so while it's our lawsuit that you won't -- -- read in the paper pretty much greater control how -- so. I would suspect that this crime would be. On almost. Here unless you were very deferential -- choose there's very tolerant of these truck lost its. And then I wanna know about that next time judged payrolls around India and the electoral process -- and so do. Don't go no place I gotta go do it in Kenya hang women some more as I got a bunch of the questions and that's gonna talk about my kids driving and why is -- a wall. I don't watch log -- past. But I mean if my kid if I can teach my kids to pass the state driving test and I'm not one of these guys this is driving is a right. Driving is a privilege. But once I meet the standards that the state is set. Many -- home and how I get to those standards is not ideal business just as long as I can meet them. That's my business but that's after chain rose. Tells us was going on in the news room because actually she's never learned to drive she's been -- in the hole to -- She drives to work over here to win win what what do license she found on a block. And because her room -- Shannon rose bits. Gertrude Stein. It and I don't know. There's a fund raiser for Reginald Jacques he has a lieutenant with the you know PD a 25 year veteran of the you know PD. And he was diagnosed just not. Too long ago with stage four cancer and it's spread to his pancreas is liver his lymph nodes. He's been receiving treatment and MD Anderson in Houston he's been unable works since that since this past September. And his expenses are taking a toll on his family. Considerably so -- grill at 739 cod -- street is gonna have a fund raiser for him January the fifteenth. Up from seven and nine tickets are 25 dollars and give them at the door and advancing and -- music food and open bar. And just try to try to help defray some of the expenses from -- five year in a PD veteran so that's the fifteenth. January the fifteenth at Oceana. Most integral song contest 3739 content from seven to 9 PM 25 bucks -- had to get in there and if you wanna throw a couple of extra bucks in -- -- I'm sure our. The -- had to take it all the funds are gonna go. Two to lieutenant shark in his family to 670 as my number here 866889087. Its total remind. A semi semi got a whole bunch of text messages. To -- my guest is Texas area attorney at all with funny coincidence -- host of all things legal here on Sunday mornings from eight to ten and we're talking about these five inmates. In in Idaho and then and and but it's. Let's see manslaughter. And drug charges and just don't know -- -- Less than less than I mean perfectly legitimate reasons and they're blaming their life of crime. On their own warned addiction to booze. And and and so they're suing them the liquor industry and again these guys have you know corporate attorneys who don't do anything but defend no more just you know. It is it's not like -- got to go hire somebody and sit down and just him but the fact of the matter is and and and look bully me booze industry got a lot of my money I'm sure I'm pretty infamous. But the fact and it's just it's just a stupid frivolous lawsuit however and somebody sent me a text message don't sell harmful or addictive products. You won't need warning labels. Give potential driver cell phones to use when wrote that sticks holding and a bunch of stuff across the board of the simple fact of the matter is though. It just depends on the person as to how addictive this stuff this I mean we've had so many discussions about marijuana and whether it's a gateway drug and you know what. For some people in business and for other people. You can smoke that's stuff for twenty years and and put it down and never pick it up again I got a cousin. I quit smoking I smoked for thirty years and it took me damn near year among kids dragon on me before it's finally able to say I am smoke free. You know and yet I got a cousin -- one day ran out of cigarettes against -- adequate. My producer Todd the same thing he smoked one day was out of smokes and pass a good data quit never had a -- a -- enough. And it's like it just depends -- the person that's right Doug and and you can't tell until you actually. Walk down the path. Right there with alcohol and a lot of doubt ought to do that accomplishment on alcohol problem brakes on your brains -- some people. When they get saturated alcohol over a period tie and started creating and country we don't -- -- returned all five years today. And they could stop any time some people do -- they crossed the line they can't stop. So each student body composition of everybody's different and that is a different you know track on each on on a particular person so. You know it doesn't apply across the board I mean there's a lot of items that are potentially addictive that are on the market -- People buy and you know video change who had so. It's really. So what false premise is that. That the prisoners are all but certain. I don't doubt that a bit -- so -- -- so especially with a billion dollar asking price you know I mean again if if you know you're an attorney. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- You've got some money but this just -- Here at it that's coming up and I've encountered that before he worked the united handed control about -- While bio landlords nonpayment she's shoot four billion dollars in federal court under the. And our mission -- -- -- four billion dollars in her entire lifetime or her children slept -- -- -- kind of stuff. Yeah and I mean it is just. -- here to fatally should probably will jewels and all there -- and he. You know 11 -- told a judge which you reduce the demand from four billion to two billion he still wasn't crushed car bomb bomb. Components. You know -- -- part of you know you have. People who. You know all segments of our impacts of records systems yeah and well Lisa and again and Ed Ed and in some of those you know this as part of it is. It's sort of hard how do you view -- as an I think the court you know really want assurances -- -- -- take a look at it. The alcohol companies will follow up and called exceptional in federal court bush dismissed -- twelve B six motions. And most of the time you know the judges -- drawn out before he gets started. And so they you know -- your -- -- -- the court which you still have to do. Defended a lot of times it illustrated a pretty good because competitors Jeremy -- -- -- -- what does this mean that one of the reasons I -- come on talk about this mean you're a lawyer. And and then I mean you know not all lawyers have -- answers but just since you deal with this kind of stuff -- -- step away again. But I wanted to ask about these kinds of promises don't ask people -- tell me did you have you been the victim of a frivolous lawsuit that you have a life you know you had to go hire an attorney to get this you know gay -- off your back because. They're just coming -- -- through the court system -- what should they do about that I mean my first thought is. Loser pays you not gonna file a lawsuit that you don't think you have a chance to win and however. Loser pays doesn't always. Safeguards you from some people who are less than honest. That's that's the killer part to mean you may have most regular cells. There are some people win a rule -- who are behind jail random -- and abort themselves right now -- rove other stuff because they were dishonest attorneys. You know -- almost a loser pays the next thing you know I'm -- somebody -- lose and -- -- -- all -- -- scorecards when it's painfully obvious I -- I want to begin with. So I mean loser pays doesn't always protect you. And give you the opportunity that you deserve having a free and open ports of old are going to be there when we get back necessary my guess what's so big -- -- Don't go way back from north of -- Actually some of the call me early today talking about -- a lot of really good theater and -- lock workers rather hard goods. Torture Guantanamo -- avenue Q is opening up. Which they passed and the million Jackson has Jersey boys. There's a whole bunch of good stuff going on actually but by the way though avenue Q is are rated any -- -- -- are so. Show -- adult situations and adults who owns an adult language their dogs and staring. Including movies coming out actually have to shoot tomorrow on a movie with Christopher former. And Shirley MacLaine only issue one day but this one and -- roles you know social basically assumed I got off the air -- got to -- set. And then they're like up an elderly couple and term -- you know. Brilliant -- in the parking -- -- got to -- on the go to -- -- I don't win it's it's -- us one -- them little -- farm roles you know which basically what I do nowadays there's -- -- that the rules -- if you -- -- things were you to be remembered but it's only Wednesday. There are an -- do Buddy Holly again to project that's coming up in March so now yeah school. Just let's let's talk briefly and then we got to get a traffic report because everything's a -- CO NF. I know I talked to Melissa -- about the it's about driving and such for some -- and an email. That I didn't get until after she was gone you're an attorney I'm just gonna ask you briefly down and if you know millions of this or not but basically. Here's a man somebody's got an 85 year old father being given up his car keys. He says he's a good driver he ran into the back of a pickup truck a red light nobody was hurt. They want his doctor to get involved only been told is not his responsibility. His two year license is gonna expire in a couple of months and they wanna know is there anything that the state can do or -- test that he has to pass or. What are you gonna do to somebody who's that agent should be given up a license and -- -- Yeah I mean I mean there's something he could do you think -- -- partial interdiction. Com somebody would file for the most to have. Or all I would also saying that a trial and member of concern that ask the court to take greater trouble or competed danger. And you can enhance someone else. Assume that -- transportation. And -- as part of that it would not be allowed to drive. There are -- what it would be like the opposite of learners permit innings the right you know. You're sixteen year old has to have you when the call win and so he can you -- drive only if if only a for competent adult is with some time for. -- it would be pretty much as saying look she can't manage his portion of -- -- on his own children ask court to directed an and an extreme case was the courts could take a look at that especially pure danger to Obama. Growl but that there are people who -- 85 years old running appear in the back of -- BitTorrent like Tucson will be his argument on the other -- that the fact that OK while since you've got this lawyer -- go get my and my -- lawyer. And will do little bit rewrites over here so yeah. A report concurs but that's what that's about it down on the legally and statewide when it comes to driving if he passes is driver's test. There the only thing you can do is have a legal interdiction in which case you're out of the well. Are there I don't aren't animal that NC question. Speaking of driving let's find out what's going on -- this nasty weather outside enormous fault as you drive home here on known a beautiful to some pitiful Wednesday on the spurs showed a big 870 W -- yeah. I'm back here duchess Sarah put -- -- we read this to you aired Doug but I hear you as like me want to see WW open 24 trillion dollars. Because sir my ears listen and talk gumbo with the speakers cranked all the way up of us we could go well first off you need to listen to talk from -- would this be described cover up they were -- But Tony four trillion dollars to get into his point four dollars other stuff. But that's that's just -- and I mean that the fact that they asked for a billion dollars over someone just -- the bag goes this is stupid. -- -- How about we have five or six retired judges who don't do anything but read stupid stuff ago we're not even gonna bother.