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Deke and Bobby talk to WWL listeners about the nail biter of a win over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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And good eating a lot of an opponent -- BBC food in the world famous for its quota on the saints' radio network have on the called on I have a -- off but he brought it back but don't make so. And Budweiser have a great opportunity designated driver come back to the races. I had a ball he threw the ball awesome to me the -- -- In the world famous for its court of go to -- six. The Tampa Bay fourteen indicate you -- ivy wall like that you like the you know we can look back at his game I think indices also had it done if we get that he had eleven wins the I think he's the kind of game you have to win to get the double digits in it'd be a playoff team -- that matter high when you -- have -- ugly I went. But I can tell you want to think Tampa Bay's defense. Is here. This day I think he'll definitely. I'd be surprised -- teams score Mora doubled when -- against that defense. -- it now but they'll knock it's not bubble that you let the legal or illegal that they got some bad SOBs on that he but you look at last week. At thirteen penalties a 102 yards and you look they had just in the first half. Six penalties for sixty yards but three personal fouls but just in this hectic water. And an opt out new coach made -- -- this you cannot have nine penalties a more. It caught did you score and they had hit penalties a 118 yards and you look -- in a close game it's gonna cost you. But they definitely set it home. You might have thought Drew Brees -- jittery in the pocket but if that was the reason because have a B it was common they will bring and it. And off with a line is not as good as we want to see global now we got a built to run the ball better. But the bottom line if you made enough plays well when we had to and who won the game and what's frustrating so far is that now all red -- often it against the bout with the Tampa Bay we're not efficient. And you could say well well well well with the problem with that -- I don't know last year we were number two in the league. And last year we all -- behind the Patriots in reds on off that would always get touchdowns that hasn't been the case as today we were hopeful for. I thought overall again Rob Ryan is the fifth what more can you ask government. Now I I thought at times it was kind of feast or famine. There really took it -- board but are not telling you that flat out gut. -- to have a -- -- -- -- Brees had a Doug Martin along with Pierre with Doug Martin nobody as a rookie last year he was amongst the best all role in the top. Five and NFL he ended up with like a 44 yards. 29 he carries five total average but that did not surprise me at all a thought it was -- that we built to stop you know a guy like Doug Martin. I think at times we did when we had him. But he also had that nice long runs. You look at. Well we -- net yards rushing totally unacceptable. Now you could -- -- got to run the ball -- ebb and flow of the game I think coach Payton wasn't trying to go away from the rumble we only had wanna get him. Three point eight average 75 yards marketing -- in only twenty yards and eight carries. 2.5 double BK guarantee we Mark Ingram was running the ball. That's gonna be somewhere in that yard area you could not gonna get it at that it was able off but the like got to block -- look at down on the goal line. You have off with a -- got to block that you've got to win 1010. Run off -- goal that. It's human safety but not both in a bad thought of a gun who knocked the crap body but that's the kind of -- that the top backs that you that a win. Don't fall -- for yard average has built the Mark -- doing that at all and it's very frustrating Pierre Thomas only five carries. He would play nine yards but that's not. Five point six yard average allies the five point eight them look at them and notes here but it what more can you say about Jimmy Graham. Jimmy Graham -- in the first half had a career high 156 yards receiving in -- out with ten receptions a 179 yards. Righted eighteen yard average in the touchdown. It just shows you gonna have adversity any game let that -- -- you scared. That they use scare -- and reason and and really that the author -- made the plate and hacked it down the stretch I'm telling you. That is difficult to do. What you make clutch Oliphant briefly grabbed plus fifty -- was paroled lets me. -- the Colts to plus 31. Spike the ball five or six that you pick a few goal in a -- -- couple few good based on an extra point where hardly makes a point seven yard field goal. To win the game now. You might pick -- pick it up for quarterbacks or. Manama talk about this interceptions by Drew Brees the he has human but I can tell you on that third and seven. We -- there interception at the thought that they 85 yard. You've got to look at it I don't golf tape the game would Andy should look at I'm telling you a pass rush of a spot Nate Davis. And I'm not saying it's our fault but what happens. Is like almost wanna make a play so that is that a taken a sack. I think he was blind if ought to pass rush and he never saw me said. Never thought Mason Foster and I could see that's inexcusable but I'm just telling you what happened without being their before hanging in the pocket and all -- -- sudden. It you think the back breaker one way in and all the -- -- -- -- -- that -- because the pass rush. The guys that you -- it's still. You know it is no excuse to want to make any excuses. As though he still had over 322 yards but he was unbelievable in the first half. Compared to what it that happening as the game unfolded I could look right here yet 216 yards in the first half. And we need a pick six -- only 250. Yards but he was able to handle that adversity. You look at have a big enough with that. Paterno a lot of things led all of the bucks points. So you could see how turnovers in a hard fought close game it does make -- different but if you look at it. But hole at Tampa Bay. The fourteen points. I kind of like these pathetic is -- -- Sean Payton. A 50006. The Saints are now 39 and three. If they hold their opponent to twenty points or less. The Saints at 39 at three it would have been a shame. To have this kind of -- best performance scoring defense and you have to lose to -- 1413 that have been all of the offense could do we can't get out. The -- it that you could do with Derrick doing. No we should win. We should win the game even off the supply I don't think it's good it's who won the Super Bowl. We've got to run the ball better it can be all passing but I'm very encouraged about defense that I think -- don't gonna be rocket. With the Cardinals come to town and -- at LSU west. And you look at the Cardinals especially that the that the side when you got Patrick Peterson. The money back to her team -- Aaron Matthew had a big. Or I'll stop today as they beat the Lions beat guy Kevin Mench there's so. That'll be an interesting game and Jordan -- nation. -- will -- welcome those players that you all of that. Those that the Saints are better the -- of -- got a -- on the field and we have a great opportunity to start three you know. We look at the new bowl with the -- game at the point that you on sixteen. -- -- Ottawa saint radio network it is the barn jacket eating seafood in the world famous for its called a couple off line it is -- hit them both Bryant a ball seafood appalled. It's brought him back but don't excel in but why is a great time the -- on -- the designated driver. Whereupon a lot of -- -- means it's a point after saint. Radio network today the Saints would be toy he has all of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers sixteen to fourteen. It will be eight teams in the night it's over an eight or 20 on the season. And the New Orleans Saints off one of them on the other two will be the winner of the Seattle. And San Francisco mean that is currently in any weather in late. Well Italy and it is an ability to pick it out east and over rated -- -- New Orleans Saints at that particular weakness ministry donates 500. Dollars. To the -- who looked at the that is in the weekend in Austin preferred innocent of the New Orleans Saints we weren't even the turnover battle. To appease the Tampa and you want but we forced him for that now that the youth who. Boy and his parents they -- camps are now I think he's mr. consistent I think he could start any team in the know with five tackles and it is that. He not only had a sack -- a sack and a forced fumble. That that that that's like. Not even a trifecta but I -- a call that that's factory. If you're rushing the passer and I guess the hacked it could be like you -- you sacked the quarterback. You steal the ball from the right in the infield depth at that that would be the hat trick but that was pretty president got a sack. And he forced the fumble I think I'll talk got acknowledged that the -- that you need a peaceful the -- receiver. Elected Jimmy Graham. The Nuggets made right now mark Aaron and -- that that's money well spent and you know when you look at Barrett away was traffic coming out of Alabama. The likely Carroll but I out like Barron also -- -- like the bigger version. He had thirteen total tackles that he is unassisted. And you look at Gholston and I -- that happen. Nine unassisted tackles in the -- the total form also. He was the receiver I mean I think that he paid big bucks in the 49ers but the come -- over but when you look at. What Jimmy Graham -- able to achieve I mean it kind of speaks for itself and this is what you look at far. And I and I think in the future would you want him to accomplish in and day in and I think. You can accomplish great things in his -- of former all said and done. And 56 yard touchdown on what gave the Saints. A ten to seven lead they were down seven at three in 56 yard touchdown -- Jimmy Graham now the budget but that the coverage but you've still got to make the play. Now the longest touchdown. Jimmy Graham career. -- when you look at it in what occurred. Because that is. -- a career high in the first half. In that at a 156 yards receiving and obviously a career high in -- -- with ten receptions. A 179 yard drive at eighteen yard average. One touchdown. And I said this and you know deal with the wrist injury at the drop no excuse and Jimmy Graham won't make excuses. I mean you look at in what he did last year in where he's at now I think he truly is. The novel -- tied in in the NFL. I'll look at the competition to Egypt gate. Gradkowski -- -- injury factor. And a tone against Dallas on the on the last play. -- with somebody in and Jimmy Graham and and I think this year. I think this is at the bottom that this that the seller not the ceiling I think he can have a season when all's said and done. You have twelve touchdown catches. -- could see a -- reception. And at 12100 yards and I think that's that this feeling I think that's at the bottom Jimmy Graham is that good. Now teams that you focus tournament was creditor row you -- that's why everybody at the putrid. I don't care he's still now that -- -- -- -- -- the now demeanor is Lance Moore. As Atlanta or two years considering you look at -- went to work the better. He's been quite a quiet after talking to him about that game. -- you look at now I can't get Tampa -- optimistic -- -- -- One catch you know the fifteen -- -- anymore than you expected to have the real work that I'm not saying we didn't guard he's who beat the top. Yeah he got a guy unbelievable yet if you look at Jimmy Graham did Colston had four Sproles that at that's it. The airport just shows -- may -- that the how to -- it does play in a pennant they would split the receivers which at Atlanta would have about reports that the game. It's a lot of sixteen Tampa Bay fourteen welcome back the scoreboard when you what camp at John had -- -- on the black -- second victory of the season. It's upon at this BBC but it the first caught on it all at saint radio network. Well Drew -- shrugged off throwing two interceptions and completed three straight passes for 54 yards with a little over a minute remaining in the fourth quarter. To lead the Saints into position to win the game there's. Greens stepping up throwing down the -- critic pick just made my Colts could. But I think that's good good then you are denied those planet at the nine. Garrett Hartley then kicked a 27 yard field goal as time expired to give the Saints a sixteen to fourteen victory over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Now looking at other scores in the NFL the Falcons improved to one and one on the year beating the St. Louis Rams. 31 to 24 Matt Ryan passed for 374. Yards and two scores. The Panthers now owing to one the year after dropping onto the bills 24 to 23 in the loss Cam Newton had 229. Yards passing. And two touchdowns. The Bears -- the Vikings on Cutler Jay Cutler's touchdown tube all Martellus Bennett. With time expiring at the Bears won 31 to thirty color finished with 290 yards and three scores. The Washington Redskins and RG three are now oh and two after getting dominated by the Packers losing 3820. Aaron Rodgers had 480 yards passing on the day for touchdowns but Miami Dolphins are two and on the year beating the Colts in Indianapolis 24 which warning. Andrew -- -- 321 yards with a touchdown meanwhile Ryan -- -- was three -- 319. Yards through the air with a score. The Kansas City Chiefs under the Andy Reid -- are now to know with a seventeen to sixteen win over the Dallas Cowboys. Alex Smith had 223 yards passing and two touchdowns the Philadelphia Eagles fell to the San Diego Chargers in their home opener 33 to thirty. Philip Rivers had 419. Yards passing and three scores the Cleveland Browns loss to the Baltimore Ravens. Fourteen to six Joseph Flacco for the Ravens had 211 yards with one touchdown. As well as the Tennessee Titans. Lost to be. Houston Texans thirty to 24. In overtime. Not -- about 298. Yards passing with three scores Ben -- nine carries 93 yards on the day. The Phoenix Cardinals Arizona Cardinals beating the Detroit Lions 25 to 21 Carson Palmer 240 yards passing and a touchdown. Rashard Mendenhall had fifteen carries for 66 yards and a score. The Oakland Raiders are now 11 after beating the hopeless Jacksonville Jaguars nineteen to nine. Terrelle Pryor had 126 yards passing in the loss for the Raiders Chad Henne 241 yards passing and one TV. For the jags. In the Manning -- the Denver Broncos would be victorious. -- beating his younger brother Eli once again Denver winning 41 to 23. Payton finished with 3077. Yards passing with two touchdowns Eli 362. Yards and one score. That's a look at the NFL scoreboard -- Steve Geller on the saints' radio network. -- -- -- -- -- -- Sixty Tampa may fourteenth by the phone calls -- yeah a big camp start the guys that or I mean I think game any game well when the coaches look at film and and evaluated. Players it five total tackles audiences that this -- forced fumble. But he's one of those players that can bring it every now. You know some players that that it is the wrong -- -- rush the passer. I think he actually is the work in progress they. Cameron Jordan is that that good. Now you look at all that -- and he talked about that. We've added that the that the line with injuries. And the just. Step up big time I didn't get your responsibility done. That's like to theaters all the adversity with injuries on the knee with a line that's impressive to hold. Even a guy like Doug Martin. Now but you know who wore on a little bit in that second half. You know where you know with what ignited him 244 yards five guard Barrett -- we still had -- stop a lot of times -- they'll gain. You know plus one but overall you look at total net yards. To hold a team is beanie with the rules and I everything's fast paced fast break offense. Whatever you wanna call it the whole opponent. To 200 73 yards that is impressive. And that's what the hell Tampa Bay in. If you look at these quarterbacks in. I still think Josh Freeman obviously is on the hot seat. If you look at what he did it in any seen yet yet you hate to throw them but that wasn't the case throughout the game. That Josh Freeman ended up only nine of 22. A 125 yards and a touchdown. And interception and if you look at the at 47 yard field goal volley and dealt level though good now actually they -- long this. Drive of the game as Freeman hit Jackson plus one in the third nine. You know -- third and nine that's it down the attest to win and the thing to winning that a majority of time in and out. All the Tampa Bay only five with thirteen 30%. At the -- standing in the first half when you look at it. You know they were only to have 633%. A lot the balance that drive where he had a couple of big plays. And in. You know it. We can address that and then I'll look at it Carlin harper got beaten Freeman hit Jackson plus eighteen. But Jackson of talent you hit to Jackson's numbers. -- -- top five receiver all of you in the NFL so we have one feet before answering it the cement the game so it and you look at he ended up haven't 55 catches. 77 yards so impressive performance. At but I but I look at total yards. And then pulling up to 270 yard that is dominant. I'll think the -- really dominant performances. I was -- breath obviously because I think the Falcons. What they've done enough with Matt Bryant they've been atop an offense. That that they had not so much with Josh Freeman has that success against the states in the past particularly in that that may. Not this -- in the superdome but you have success that the Phillies -- on the hot -- If not they kept me going forward has the right defense. I don't know they have the right coordinator. Offered the coordinator they have the right. Quarterback. Under the got the right running back. -- -- limit ego Williams along with. -- that Jackson. But I just don't know the combination. A book coordinator maybe quarterback. It might have to make -- change their views that if you would coach Donald -- -- on the verge of almost being up Bonny or dirty type team considering all the penalties they get game any game out. That's nobody to the phone to clear out straight that's a phone calls the easy Terry town that gets called the what happened with Saints radio network. They've that the Big Easy. -- try to do what you got. Yeah -- just a little bit to the point it was an old -- guide dog evil people. Really local. And -- it all the ability to have an about what went cold you keep you -- -- -- for more. Well you -- like I don't title I don't think it's some people may see it anyway -- but I hope he's given -- perspective. From a running backs and -- -- the -- -- one when they were talking about how GM and hope you were talking him up quarterback perspective and hope he was telling -- about half. And involved. Without a -- a quarterback suspected -- -- told me Laviolette had this is what happens see it is not that he's he's making excuses. That's what he saw the running back he's given your running back perspective yeah you don't -- as animated chooses but nobody. No no I and you look at it the an -- that lead right back with a long I mean I pocket runners straight line I couldn't cut then you can -- like 81. But one thing I know is that great running back break tackles. Right Ingram doesn't break tackles no -- no we did that option pitch a couple of he'd be cool and cold. And you get -- got an ankle leverage that you could get in it the old are you gonna cut back. That you got our road over -- and I don't care to fattest state in the lead. Most needed Jackson -- eighty top running back you can tell me at safety he Q you're not gonna fall forward the one yard. You can't go like he did hit a go down. Equaled that run last we've got value with Ingram and I think it was more from the University of Missouri with -- -- at that knocked the crap out of Ingram I don't know if it was a Kuo. I think it was more ma boy yeah it was one he came out they got it he's -- Ingram thought I'm telling you that's why -- had about it. That's about it in yard touchdown run that you see daylight yeah Mora came out of the nowhere and I have not been crap bottom. And the it was like he just. Went right down it wasn't like he was you know to keep his feet move it. What we've seen pre season Robinson. Chris Ivory on the -- -- to prepare but he didn't break tackles and an easy buried on the break tackles. What if game win in the week we've got a great stance but if you win those guys -- -- there. The mean from what we've seen a spot not ever averages that it is that an aptitude games. That's not to be negative -- -- -- you know. It was not a scum of the things likes that but don't Ascanio what you -- what QA yeah what you gravity of what you have that you back. Yeah you know it's an -- again. At an event at the bottom line is going to pick it had a big moment not nice to Alex but they'll be able but it there right now no Ingram. Ain't -- market value right now. Would you look at Ingram. What he's done aptitude Gaines you know it would he's -- are the two games -- need to future of this thing ain't no you see hill though we. We got to move on we got -- that we made a mistake. He has and it's not gonna work out now he still work at Rockets this the year you gotta put up. Or shut up. Are you gotta get out but I don't like all the lies that block and all that. You gonna tell -- dollar to block to block that Pierre. And you know block me you know c'mon no I mean you gotta gotta gotta gotta make the right -- the perfect example while the against the Falcons. Yet at seven yard run there was the ninth hole and the first guy that hit and he went straight down. Yeah probably not see Chris Ivory all the -- but the hole and it break a tackle and get a victory yards Robert today pre season. And you go on and on I'll look at the great running backs. They just break tackles on all the way of doing that. You know with disappoint would disappoint me Bobby is Ricky suits him repeat next he has his hall of fame golf tournament he's got every year. It's three years ago. He had Earl Campbell who we believe we don't come here and Charles -- And we don't -- it is -- yeah every every play you Graeme was three times but anybody at. Probably with the exception of Jim Brown. A -- to -- And I asked -- We -- sitting at U of assassinate our city is making it back acted -- and resembles -- -- you know -- you -- muscle would tell him. He said that's not that we sit and yet they. Marquis kind of remind you that and not have the gap -- it I don't without later in the day. And if somebody like Earl Campbell had said that about me that alone would have been. Just like the Mona. No matter what -- until toward a -- have -- that means -- -- me and I mean Kabul who weren't you rotate somebody else that Earl Campbell. And we have not easy easy as -- or not. Earl Earl -- pack up what mark -- girl told become addicted in the heat call him Mark Ingram will with a guy who rains sent it to him. Yet and -- current round yes -- a couple of amid market you can roll a hole -- have a lot I know that little by Utley not -- early you get I mean is that Utley Earl Campbell. He can't recall nominee he does complicate in yet and I can tell -- Actually not usable basic economic tool -- his game and in -- at -- given up and and it went in to it that they are running a party time the game event about pride that -- This that this that aren't getting there and got off because Alabama was so dominant and got everybody in the competition yeah in the NFL that's not the case. And it -- -- that's the players you go back and look at every draft and answer but you go back and looking every first round matchup on the probably top -- you know a lot of -- in that category. Out out out not one of services about it the book somebody else be -- answer is certainly not necessarily out of bruised right out of here one night he's got us all night on the bus at the bodies first round oh he's good. I don't think you'll ever be great that you'd be good to be serviceable. Yet wrapped the match. It in the and the latter rounds are creating LOK. But -- look at Pierre he's above a three to make sure he's that a noble guy. The old number one -- bit disappointed Robert Meachem. C'mon. If Robin it was a -- number one he got off but then the eagle and throw any -- -- it it was -- on 93 Derrick thank you -- called upon after listening to radio network. -- again I think that my golf. You pretty much you know what I thought wanted to talk about -- But coming in on a couple of other things arm -- At the plate calling Shaughnessy golf and I mean he's really not on his game up quite solid mythical land he went there -- ran off. That was just pathetic third -- -- in -- and Ingram twice I mean it's just pathetic as. Are you know and you go back in the post game and it put me even -- one he made steady all he's in the he said that with pain that was obvious that if I didn't -- the -- -- -- it's -- the -- -- better difficulties they had an -- -- and I -- what are you kidding me. If you got the ball outside the one yard line should never be -- I don't get a quarterback or running. It. Well and what we should have to -- people. If you got hurt at six -- are you got third the art art there're an audible at the art and it. Like get the treat people the get a first batter that's now. All right Erik thank you very much coming back to all your calls took on extra tonight because -- -- one -- flight and -- late. Final score New Orleans victorious over Tampa sixteen to fourteen to us pace of them the Saints radio network -- thank you so much would -- Sunday. It's AM for the putt like count down to kick off at the Saints prepared to take on. The Arizona Cardinals but I'm just as into wanna stick around for much more of the point after the -- -- and about BA got Deke Bellavia -- go to water at sixteen. Tampa Bay fourteen this is the point after all the New Orleans Saints radio network.