Well our sort of shifting our attention from one medical subject malpractice to another and this one for all parents and all young people. Very important. Some pretty strong language to parents from doctors who take care of their children. The American academy of pediatrics says parent should ban electronic media during meal times and at bedtime. And that's major. As kids today are all but consumed with all kinds of media for television video games and music. And let's add to that texting tweeting and FaceBook. This is not a moral judgment rather one that's focused on the potential for serious health issues. The pediatric association says excessive media use. Is associated with obesity poor school performance. Aggression. And the lack of sleep. But for many parents it's going to require some real tough -- can you take away your kids many media connections. Even for a few hours. No -- says it will be easy but may be one of the best things you can do for your children. Here to talk about this is doctor -- bureaus who is a pediatrician in private practice and the past president of the state medical society. And doctor Christopher -- -- being a child and adolescent psychiatrist. Assistant professor of psychiatry at the -- issue Health Science Center. Ladies and gentlemen if you're listening to this if you are apparent in if you have concerns about how much media that your child is consuming on a daily basis. This is short time to call we have two experts in the field. The number is 2601874866889087. -- and they will love to take your calls. I'm gonna start with just a general question of are you all hearing one from parents or even seen with children. How far this has come. This of -- say obsession with this usage. Of. Mean. Classically see it in the office every day because I watch eighteen -- polls put -- work it work a Smartphone that is the make up. But it's it's an -- it's goes on all the time. Some kids. Our round just fixated on there right there next boxing game boy. Probably worsen as the computer and social media. But no question about it it's it's it's a rising phenomenon. Yeah -- agree I mean name the you know marbles in comics of yesteryear have been replaced with screens and you know for better or worse. When really what the American pediatric association is saying is had some media free zones in your homes. And at the dinner table they should be Paramount that you talk to each. And that you are not all looking down telephones and clicking. Likewise before bedtime because it really is kind of keeping kids up and even if they say that night. Apparently kids will turn on the computer and check the difference one last time. Is that an unrealistic thing to ask. Now. I I think it's important for parents to to establish a plan. This is how we're gonna run media and a house. And think of it in terms of the plan you have when you're actually for hurricane if you wait until hurricanes on your doorstep. And it's chaos and you have no real plan that he'd sit down as a family. And plan which is the TV hours which is a computer hours. One work hours what does sports hours. And if you have a plan and you sit down with that plan and everybody has input into the plan. And that plan's gonna change depending on the age of the child. Then everybody knows with the ground rules bar and everybody can be on the same page. So I think more than to try to say no when they're in the middle of a conversation. Have a plan and then stick with the plan that applies to the -- as well. Well and that's part of what this association and sank. Tactically yeah I mean I think you know whenever you allow your child to get attached to something. And then to love it and then 21 more of it years setting up opportunity for bad results for the kid being over attached. And so you know I think a right from the beginning. Setting rules and understanding that you know technologies -- gonna change in what's available is gonna change but you have to plan for you have to take it seriously. And you know he once it's a lot easier to prevent problems than it is to solve them once you have them. In a study that was done in 2002. Not -- in a study that was done 2002 children. Were were surveyed and they said. That two thirds of them. Very interesting had no rules. On how much they could use any. I am pretty startling. I think it's it's that's the outcome of the fact that this is so I'll still new technology. Most parents parent the way they were parent. When I grew up when I was a kid there was one channel. On TV WD issues I remember in 1958 when WW Al came on the air and it was great. A comedy of his went to bed watching the test pattern now -- got up in the morning wants to test pattern so. When I go to raise my child I grew up in a world where there were only two channels. How my going to check each train train or teach my children to live in the world. Whether or 400 channels on cable not to mention on demand channels on a computer. So because this is such a new area parents don't have the expertise. They're gonna have to play this when my year until we get enough experience would. I'll list the technology keeps is advancing so just when you figure out one thing there's a new technology out there. And so that's why I think the family has a plan but two children teach you how to use the device. And you can incorporate that knowledge into the plan if you construct. My sister was -- college professor for many years retired a couple of years ago and she said. Not the sole reason but just a little moment of the reason. For her finally sang I'm not gonna do this anymore was. And she loved to students into college students but she said there phones were like crack. They could not put them down and she finally are not just read in the reineck said here's the deal. If anybody in this class is caught using their phone -- election. Every phone goes on my desk. To put stuff and you know it sort of settled but. You know we are that they're 181920. Years old we're talking about young kids now and we see them everywhere we -- at the mall we see him every place. A subsidies that have that as a rule now that phone to -- that the door you can't go into a restaurant was found. And and it it it the -- -- the door socially a lot of people have done that by having the rules the first person is -- goes off during our meal has to pay for the -- Well that's a beautiful thing. But adults have to learn how to can control their their interest as well as the teaching children well they have to show by example. Well we're going to continue that conversation about how parents can best parent in a circumstance like this. So stay with -- and don't hesitate to give us a call again that's 2611870. 260187. Or 8668890870. We'll be right. Were talking with not doctor floored bureau says doctor Christopher Lee being. About the use of media all the whole thing whether -- space -- or computer or. Listening to television doesn't make any difference that the American pediatric association has come out saying we gotta have these media free zones in the home. Whether it's at dinner or at bedtime but it's just it's becoming all too consuming actually one of being. Things blew my mind was the kids eight to eighteen spent seven hours and 38 minutes. Per day consuming media for fund so that doesn't mean what they're doing school with a computer this is the funds to. And that is -- one hour and seventeen minutes from five years ago. That leaves me to question. If we're going in that upward direction how far can we go or is going to be one -- child looking and machine. Well if he's and then eight hours a day hope sleeping. And seven hours -- day. He opened school. That seven dollars doesn't leave a lot of time for social interaction. Sports activities physical exercise. Is only 24 hours in the day and you got a budget amount. And that's clearly one of the concerns of this report from pediatric group is that kids are becoming obese because you're not. And activists they should be they're becoming more aggressive. Not because of this type of media and it's becoming a problem so here's the fair warning from an organization who really is built around helping children that's very. Practically think. Yeah I mean I frequently. He treat children with learning problems are behavior problems and he then after taking history finding out what's going on that in their house. They have a develop habits -- ways a living that are incredibly stressful and not good for them although it would be the child's choice to indulge in all sorts of foods that they probably should need. To spent a lot of time watching things they shouldn't watch during gauged in. You know video games are there leisure activities and once you have that pattern set up in your house it's very hard to undo it. And so you know Watson for as a doctor you get framed like what's wrong with my child's trainers are brain problem. And until you give that child a healthy environment it's really hard to know where that what the brain would look like in a good environment how well these kids could do. And so you know we're this is in -- in them in the modern world of what parents have to face and they should be prepared for it. And -- saying it's easy being a parent. But you're saying it's different -- -- it's much harder actually you know in the days where the kids only had sticks and rocks but you didn't have to worry about all of them there in early -- asking for this asking for this warning this kind of food warning this video game -- -- -- him -- -- -- drive -- around. It's much harder -- these days and you parents are put in the position. Many more time saying no. And that's I think why these firm rules are very good because and you just say okay this is a firm world this is what the border that we're gonna set. And then outside of that you can have these things. Okay I'm with us some caller let's go to Stan Stan from Guerrero. Why you don't -- great. Yeah Allen's column because I heard on the radio and our ports are -- -- I selected the reward did you know might. Stay in school updated 330 in that make them on the game a lot of homework in my departments and stared intently. Or a little bit more and out of play expire compliments on what -- and we got a good football practice -- best blah and you know it's like I'm kind of wondered they have on the -- you know I don't understand because they don't have that much out of -- -- -- on their own that are computer I mean an oblique injury and they during the week it's very hard. You -- keep them active in bid to be homework projects chores and everything it's you know it's not silly. When they do get a break from what our chores are football practice. -- you know they should be played an expired start talk on the phone you know because neat it's a little town itself so they did you know. He recharged to go back to school to. Leaving it sounds like what he's saying is he's got a good balance of kids in sports and -- very active and and -- I guess you know and I think you have to be absolutist about it but it's clear just from the call that you know the deer they've already gotten to a point where they've gotten in a good routine in these kids are living healthy lights and taking care of the things -- need take care of so as a leisure on top of that or to be able to connect with their peers on top of that that's fine. But what we often sees that those basics of health and those basic. You know sort of schedule management things that you Hussein how about how much time. Will we -- turn on -- TV in the morning right when you get up. Back and added thirty or 45 minutes of TV time today but it is amazing how could you fit seven hours and if you know he's he he couldn't in that family setting because it's a while around and Alina it's organized the and that's that's when I was listening. He's very organized and come home -- And do homework and then go to football and then Indian Menard to play thank you very much -- -- call stands for calling Lola from Metairie. Thanks to take my car. A question different level you that the professionals out there. Maybe education should be so much on. The technical aspect of the gadget. Maybe it should be on the human basic and and the horrors that they human bodies of brain. We need to concentrate on let them in front of us and miles 1000 miles away when we eat we need to concentrate. Without brain function on that actually eating processed and our brains to store every everything that we do you take the picture of everything. And audio and visual titles that affected the memories. -- overload at I'm children and can that haven't effect psychologically Lex. As schizophrenia. In regards to. I'm processed information. -- great questions I think overload questions. Yet and one in my. So if a child is hit with its incredible amounts of sensory information which a lot of our kids are. It is hard for their brains to figure out what is real information and what is not important information and so. You know yes we do wanna restrict how much stuff goes into the brains of markets because it's stresses them out and overload them an ethnic constantly have a TV or. Of the U game on whether constantly getting in new ways. -- they can't process that Collins I do think it's stressful I don't think it's gonna you know schizophrenia is a severe mounds and probably is not related to this. -- the I think the -- is -- right that you want to be mindful of the people you're with and -- time and and. Nine and your brain -- worried about whatever they -- dispute with top in the future and so. Yeah I I think you know people are concerned about the impact and I think it does -- eight seven in impact you know what you were saying in the commercial. The idea of having a media free zone at dinner. -- not make any sense because people are having dinner together anymore are rarely. Bear. And it's very sad. Mean that's very sad well Ian you have to also think about how the economy has changed and working moms and -- -- and things which also have stressed families. And -- you know it's all kind of mixed together is not just the media but it's one thing either can be at least your support and be helpful and be good or could -- problems. Yeah technologies what what you make -- Bureaucrat with a young child going to daycare center. -- wanna look at it daycare center that has gains has outdoor play has toys for the kids or interact with. There are some day cares that just turn on the video screen in the morning and put on a movie. Plop the kids down in front of the TV and you know collective feet from the path for watching the kids of that. So as a parent you have to do your due diligence to to understand that that you -- daycare center. Where the children are forced to interact with each other they're forced to -- social and -- -- -- in front of the screen and that's that's the end of the story. Well when we come back we're gonna go to the news in the -- -- come -- a lot of talk about parenting and again I have nothing but respect for those who have children and and the tremendous job I have to do. But in some regards perhaps some of these whether it's television computers. May be sort of the pacifier. Or they -- because parents are so stressed. And and working harder all the time to have bill McCarthy said -- -- parents don't want justice they want quiet. On that had you know let's join Chris Miller in the newsroom. Well if you have any concerns that your child is using too much media it's too much a part of his or her life. This is your chance to call and talk to two experts doctor Floyd theorist doctor Christopher -- Levy. Were talking about the American pediatric association has come out and said. Sort of enough is enough and we need to get control over and now it's really starting to affect children's lives both in their school life and there. Health. Physical health with obesity and with. Aggression. So kind of curtailing it and having times of the day when children art. Involved in media I have just used that the figure that seven hours and 38 minutes is what distribution and tactically be just corrected. If you would repeat winner well. Actually uses the it's over ten hours of media used per day for eight to eighteen year olds and that study but it's multi cast into -- seven hours and thirty minutes so. They the exposure is actually greater and that they usually there's a TV on and the computers up or their radios on. What they're doing computer something or playing video games and so it's really more than seven. Or they're texting watching TV and bring. And there's got to be an outside of that we're gonna talk about the downside of today and it is gonna go back to parents and it's going to be down. Raining again as the suggestion of of these pediatric association. Just saying. If it's too much. Not always easy for parents who are perhaps both working. Harry did. And perhaps may be even a little dependent on kids playing video games -- poor kids watching television so that they aren't you say quiet. But -- acquired in their entertained then and and unfortunately in a long ones there -- certain areas of town where the risk of going out at -- is dangerous he could be hit by stray bullets and I have that conversation a -- with patients SOK to go walk around the block. And the models have known that my neighborhood to -- we can't collapse that civil code to the mollen. Walk with the mall walkers. But even that's not necessarily practical solution you don't have transportation that's reliable after dark. So here you know this intertwined with the whole social system that we have where there's certain neighborhoods where it is dangerous. To be outside dead at night walking around playing all. So you almost have to time your day around the the do the activities that are going on in your neighborhood and that's unfortunate in his -- -- and I think if we can -- Get a handle on some of the other social issues in town crime and so forth then we wouldn't be as inclined to just put our children safe relatively safe and in front of the television or computer screen that they would be happier and the parents would feel safer accuser outside running around. What do you suggest doctor Levy to parents who have come to you in just said you know what I do have to help curtail that it's tough. Because the -- as you said his forehand let what I actually suggest is a city take your TV out of the kids round and you taken on the backyard. And you put a stick of dynamite underneath it with them and you have a little ceremony and you gonna. -- summit that apple. But you truly though I mean you have to get -- appliances. Out of the child's room is the first priority because it's becomes next to impossible to always been my turn -- -- tonight and ran on. And so really when you put that in there it's just like putting a Snickers bar in -- or anything else that that they -- Of course you're gonna access it so -- an out of the room. Houston is the first thing and I suggest and then in all the suggestions that the American academy of pediatrics has about setting these limits but. I tell them you know when I set rules in my house that. Mine's kids get zero minutes of TV and we next during the school year that means I give up TV too. And so this is part of the problem with a lot of the families we have is an air of area over attach electronic media and they wanna give it up and they kind of don't really see a problem with that. And it is a problem for them -- often don't see it and they -- and -- in a negative day -- know that there hypocrites in some ways. Saint Patrick and today it's okay for me. And that's clearly part of this association pediatric association message is that parents also can't be texting during dinner. They can shut the I have to give up as well. -- per share protect check yourself on at the door when you come in to tee and and you go pick it up later but but there's you know the truly the upside. Of not testing so much of access to this meeting is that you are talking to each other and you're looking in each other. And for parents it would seem to me you would know more about what you child's doing. By having conversation with them. And don't we all want to know about their lives -- Best way that's question wrote what should you at school today. And -- did what I have to do that but but in a sense you are finding out what really. Went on them as a new book out that kind of gives you the lingo of kids now on you have to learn some of the -- -- -- in this week. -- -- LM UIR. Now let's meet up and realize. If you see a child's text message that has those initials. That could be a predator who's looking to meet them in real life. And so he not only have to be aware of what they're doing that you have to be aware of the contents of what they're doing because you're you're trying to protect them. And so. You've got to have a hold on what going on eventually they won't be on your -- anymore. But while there in your house while they are still living on the you've got to be aware so we asked them what went on today. And they're pretty you know you can talent suggests embarrassed to talk to parents but sometimes they're avoiding. Same issue and apply with the -- zoos in the you know we're starting into drugs and marijuana and things. You know they they take on a different demeanor and -- from behavior when you're doing something they really should be doing in the first place. But -- you never have a conversation with him he never pick up on those subtle cues. And if you're always taxiing and never talking he never learn how to recognize the subtleties. It's. Very important point but there. The challenge we're gonna take a quick break we're gonna be right back we're gonna Kenya have very interesting conversation stay with -- and we have a caller Kelly will be back with you. We're talking with two doctors about the influence of so much media on young kids. And sort of try to get a little control over the suggestion by the -- pediatric association of America. Kelly you're on the line. Ally is it good. I'm calling for -- that they abused -- -- that stand. I'm calling because I was missing home me and I would go to -- -- on prop -- Franklin avenue. I was. In high school and I just want -- call that the abuse and -- help him now. I feel hopeful that they appreciate when my son Tony and now. But I always wanted to write him a letter to the old and insisted telling him that I really appreciated. And the -- that the physical care. Helped with my signing. -- to keep it simple -- trying to. You could tell that we need is that he's the great that the the outlook if it that we can peace simply because we you do when. He this is gonna sit back and talk to you about anything needed -- help build it even and even wine selection pointed we expect in his -- -- Q. I appreciate the -- you know that Katrina tipped them off as a way of promise and I miss it because. It was like a community -- patients would come for their visits and into -- latest that we see in the waiting -- talking with their friends. Because it was a neighborhood. Resource I guess he could call it that in the flight took it away and we ended up in sort of a big box office building after the storm I miss those days. You know under real walls the -- for us what you were plastered with all the school pictures of our patients that was that was decoration is no -- he was all school pictures of all of our kids. I love you and acting sold -- I was twenty now but I remember being this really. -- -- -- You get yelled out and let's see what's he doing now can you don't know -- -- out of school he's working in the top restaurant industry and he's he's a great he would leave anything. -- is like your great great mom too. I am now and now we need it now that was it -- I had been about the -- I love you so -- and I appreciate you. And good luck and everything that you -- want to -- okay. Thank -- Parents we were talking it is tough to be apparent today which is still have to do did you have to -- the months now after the ones here at the perimeters. And say you know they're gonna -- conflict. -- can't be your best. Right. Yet to be impact that define. They get mad at you -- match you but in the long run that Mark Twain said he never met thirteen heroes didn't think that was the worst person in the world. And never met a 23 hero who figured out -- had -- to be so good in ten years. You are what you are if you can teach children to be right Q. Then you will both be successful when you don't train them. Do what you knew was the right thing than their on their own and yet figured out and around and they may go down the wrong room. Ended in the daily routine and setting limits on the daily routine is the important part right and you know -- we don't have to constantly indulge our kids it's -- to you know push them a little and make them be upset with us we have to do that that's your job as a parent. And if you say OK when you go to bed all electronics are out of this room. There may be a hissy fit but it'll they'll get over it. Island they're gonna think you're messing with me I'm gonna mess with you okay and you have to be able to withstand that and still do that and then move on. Have you had to parents who said you know this isn't worth the battle. Yes that's certainly I mean it's hard to pretty genie back in a bottle. So once you're here aren't in a situation where the child believes that they have god given right to their TV in the Xbox and that phone and all that stuff. And so it isn't in any will cause a crisis. And that is not every time to fight a crisis and sometimes you know parents and just you know there. They're -- they're now looking for what I have golfer and that's fine they can. You have to decide on on their own -- when and he thinks that that's I'm that's my expert advice in making that literally it. Will stay with us we're gonna continue this conversation but get ready because coming up shortly. Will announce the code word in the 1000 dollar nationwide holiday cash contest on WW well. Practically be -- a very interesting comment that there are many many more messages. Telling kids and parents to buy products than there are messages to say to them off turn them off. And I think that's very important because what the pediatric association saying is. We talk about you need a little balance and it's starting to shown alaskans so we have that responsibility. But as you're saying ethically than not not all parents will be going willingly he. Now not everyone is ready to hear that message. But they need to hear it because we need to counter these new new multimillion dollar companies that have marketing campaigns and have products a silent. You know Lleyton in that's just to delay the modern world it snows you know there's -- gone back -- we need to be realistic that with the good comes some bad. And but parents I keep saying it must be parents. They veins it's the biggest job in the world and once you are parents who have accepted that. And then what everybody wants their child is for them to be happy and for them to grow up to be. Productive wonderful citizens part of that of course is learning how to communicate. And my concern is is that we're gonna lose a little bit of that and that's gonna come back and like these kids when twining and 25 and thirty. Losing some of those skills but anybody hear your thoughts on. Now I think the parent should be apparent to not a friend. And it starts at one year old when it's time to throw away the bottle and they cry and be given the violent 2 in the morning because you want to be client. If you let their crying determine your behavior you're setting their ground rules for later in life. This technology is just a fourteen year old model. And he took the bottle away communicate when they were twelve. When it was twelve months he should take the Xbox in the phone away at night when they're in their room and should be sleeping. Because you're setting the establishment that there's only one rule and that's momma says. And no explanation now when -- thirty years old they can prove their own lines that he set that hatton literally you'd be consistent in -- And you have to be honest that they're gonna hate cute in them and they're gonna make them upset. And that's okay that's not you know and he had mentioned make him happy but there's eight contentment with that comes with achievement and being regulated person and so to me development old you know goals and milestones and that means. You know not indulging your desires and -- stop kids from unhealthy designers. I think I'm going to remember long what you just said -- concerning. The that we are bombarded with these messages of my line and huge issues I cannot thank you both enough for being here very important conversation.