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11-18 9:10am Tommy, offensive mascot?

Nov 18, 2013|

Tommy talks to Michael Cowan, a Professor at Loyola, about a high school mascot that some say is offensive

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-- talk about stereotypes. Here and what's offensive and what isn't. And I heard about this and high school in California. They've had this nickname saints. The early twenties. And it's the angry Arab that is their mascot and Jordan we post a picture maybe under Tommy's recommended reading it'll show you what is Arab looks like. At first they had gotten complaints with the Arab air in American Arab anti discrimination committee. He said the of them -- that was offensive wanted to toss another thing about maybe keep in the name. But coming up with a new mascot. And I and -- as the fans out of of this offense Arabs I don't know if this offends. Americans after 9/11. And then there's also the the Washington Redskins they've played Philadelphia this weekend there's going to be more protests about. Whether it's offensive. Board isn't and finally there's a high school. That took to the editorial pages -- so take their team on because it was named the Redskins. Michael Collins joins us right now friend professor at Loyola and chair of the crime coalition talk about some of this morning Michael you -- You're very well thank you when he comes to. Mask it's in brigade of racism more culture. Where do you draw the line between -- that because I know there's -- than it even looked at extensively. The coming from me. Excuse. How do members of the group that's involved. Feel about it. I'd sue in the case of Redskins I did not a lot of American and native Americans use that term. I -- I doubt if yeah I would -- virtually no native American Jews that term. And terms of this angry Arab mascot. I don't if he goes back to the Tony is at what point do you determine -- was okay then but it's not now. Well like you know that's great question and I think could think one of the things that we know is that things that were okay what part time -- okay now. And particular. One of those. Any I guarantee Michael people drive in Iran right now saying well that's because we're too. Overly sensitive and too politically correct in this country. Com hi how do you draw the line between between all of that does it ultimately go back to how a person wants to be. Define themselves either because of heritage your culture or race and -- even. Sort that out because I would think sometimes there's not always a consensus among the people themselves. You know we don't -- that that could point to. There isn't there isn't consent is sometimes. But could it could just. Communist. Economy as a matter of abuse or stereotyping. And the good thing about stereotyping. And -- to let everything not just two people but when we operate out of the stereotype. We. We do not. Recognize the other person as who they are we have this group -- of them and at that point. Our reception of that stopped so -- It's stereotyping and it was -- -- -- political correctness about being able to recognize one another or not the end. You know what a member of the groups. This symbol of it is constructive or hurtful or street respectful. In a tour of -- exit siding with an American. A bomb -- you know and and I've always had this question from the first sociology class ever took in college and it concerns. Stereotypes and and I don't mean to offend. Anybody. About this but it but I guess a question is. Was there a pattern of behavior. That existed for the stereotype. To develop -- I can't imagine a a committee somewhere saying nine race X is gonna be known for this. I culture why is gonna gonna have these. Behavioral characteristics attached to. Tommy I think I think the current stereotypes were talking about here. Are -- invented. By people. Outside of a group. To apply to another group and generally the invention involves. Release period credit -- should shortcut. You know what did what could stereotype of the Japanese in World War II have to do with -- Japanese really are an epic -- is welcome. Stereotypes always negative. Or -- greater -- and being out there are a -- Can you think of -- a positive ones I'm trying to Michael -- -- not trying to -- quiz but. And is trying to think -- and I Melvin I think it goes to the mode of you really. Applauding somebody for what they do or are you -- Ever tells right now maybe Asians candidate Matt that's not necessarily a negative stereotype -- And who knows it often born of prejudice or some kind of dislike for whomever it is that you're stereotyping. Well I think you know a particular word micro scale and we know the -- history that's so it would. I'm. Out here angry prefer -- -- really likely to mean that week that he had an angry. You know is the one that describes to Arabs are such a solution of a sudden but certainly the stereotype. So if I had if I were to put you on an advisory council for this school will one OG -- desire will detail have a vote on come on something else. Mary I would say I would -- -- that I would -- that mask on commanding. Continue to grow. Even know it went back to the twenties because times have changed if it indeed Mike we realize we realize now that we've been in the -- A pleasure talking he has always have a great yet but so.