Dec 13, 2013|
OPEN MIC—with 3 NOPD homicide detectives …2 are women—We got the insights of Melanie Dillon, Maggie Darling & Nick Gernon.
We're discussing the hot topics of the day with co-host of First Take, Todd Menesses.
Angela discusses the shooting in Lafayette and says farewell to WWL as she hands her timeslot off to Scoot.
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Angela talks with WWL-TV investigative reporter Katie Moore and Tulane law professor Tania Tetlow about the city's backlog of uninvestigated rape cases.
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Well welcome to Friday it is our most special day of the week. And again we just inched closer to Christmas which makes everybody happy. It's open Mike today and that means we meet three new friends we get to know them listen to what's important to them. And today we are very fortunate to have three incredible. NO PD homicide detectives. Haven't you always wanted to know what life is for the people who may have the toughest job in the city. Detective Maggie darling started as a JP SO cadet till she was old enough to become a Jefferson Parish deputy. Six years into that she moved over to the NO PD several months before Katrina. She's worked in patrol task force and then in detective for a district. Working robberies and shootings. Now she is full time homicide detective. Nicholas Garnett sergeant Nicholas Kernen has been in the investigative unit since 2003. And was assigned to homicide in 2007. Left became a sergeant and now -- back in homicide. Sergeant garner NC some real positive happening in his department from better relationships with the DA's office and the crime lab. And how they're working with the -- And detective Melanie Dylan says she has always been interested in investigative work. Beginning with her mother's love of police shows and crime novels. After graduating from cloudy from southern she went straight to the NO PD academy ten years ago. She has been a detective for five years and just past the sergeants test and I wanna say somewhere in there also had three children. Which is pretty incredible your lives are incredible. And again since we've started to show this is Dan perhaps sell officially my way to have fun. And and yet I know the seriousness. Of what you'll do day in and day out. Not -- actually hoping that you can tell me -- you also have a lot of fun in your life. You do that's OK so there's there is a balance there absolutely yeah. I think down you know we all kind of lean on one another you know that the things that we deal with serve pretty serious and pretty tough but. You know we kind of ball we use our coworkers he has they all understand what we're going to at same time so you know we we certainly bring a lot of levity to our office because you have to do that to balance out. You know that is exactly the word I wrote down how do you -- levity in something that is so sad. You have to kind of -- and -- enough when you come -- you have to be professional and keep up with the work environment. When you go home you have to settle down and ten and change into your home environments transition and so mother father. Part or whatever it may be rejected. You know how to make the transition. Palace let's start at the top here. Your day begins house. On any given -- I know it's always different but it will way. Courses it starts you know at home with with the dogs and and you know headed to work in. You or whatever cases that you have ongoing at that time. And down you know at any time when you call that -- any time -- to turn on the switch you know and get into work mode. So it could be literally walking your dog and get the call absolutely amusement -- ground and in the gym. And I get a phone call you know and that's not what I'm doing and you know handle and the business. Is at 24/7. It is 20% yes. That is the collective yes I hope everybody is hearing yes. Trying to force them as a team so it's you know that when you get called are -- team has come out with a because these cases although he may have a lead detective -- we can do without one another brain mean -- that you have to have a team there. Have you been doing this long enough now where you say. Frankly nothing shocks me anymore or are you shocked. I wouldn't go as far as saying and that. I've certainly seen a lot in. Unfortunately that there are those incidents where you know. You still get shocked he's still the -- Soviets shot you know I never really fully east. I think without our teens we wouldn't be able to do as much as we can. It's shocking it's never. It's never the same thing it's never repetitive you always have to calm and be prepared to work. And with a good support system that we have and our partners that we work with on our clients. We wouldn't be able to do without him. We wouldn't be able to without now. So you arrive on the scene. And visit with a it's a different set of eyes that you're looking at that scene. Right you know as the lead detective with the Iraqis start figured out what needs to be done. And you got to prioritize. Rather quickly because things start to change on scene so -- and ye -- know what the strengths and weaknesses are being teammates. And you know we -- -- on that team and you start you know given down different Simon's as far as you know one personal. Derek the crime lab one personal document seen -- personal. -- -- of the witnesses in and attack coveralls has bases and then. You know when you start round out of detect this from -- saudis are utilized in the district guys who were always well and welcoming. I -- it's not just the homicide units entire department really stands up and as a -- and and everybody tactics and where they can't. And yet and understand how to use as resources appropriately. What. Out and we can't get our apps started once they get on the scene and assess. We usually meet with the district personnel and they're able to tell us hey you have witnessed here -- to talk is back. It is -- might have been involved so we kind of lean on them a lot and with us being citywide. Mostly only go into the specific districts -- locations like murders are. We have to -- to the district personnel to find out Haiti you know anything about this neighborhood you know anybody who may have been involved you know did anybody come talk to you all about it. Have you had complaints in his area about. Drug activity shootings you know what what's gone on in the neighborhood so we do rely a -- on our district personnel and there constantly get there. You know oftentimes when we've seen on the news you see the large crowds of people course everything's -- -- BCI a number of police officers. But I often wonder as a detective if you're looking into that crowd and you just see something in someone's face. That you're saying to you that person knows something do you go right up to them. Oh absolutely not now will have we have ways that you know when I can really tune into -- to kind of maybe her. Isolate that parasites or maybe give them our card or number kind of pull them out the side. Have a brief conversation with them to keep them safe because in the end of the day. In -- community cooperation is extremely important to us so we need to keep the community safe when they decide to cooperate which I think that that's that's a priority for every detective appears to -- Keep eyewitnesses on safe and keep their identities. You know. Unknown for as long as possible. Are you finding. That people are. And -- had to say this but they're a little more. Coming to you vs the resistance. I think it depends on the situation. Some cases you get a little bit more cooperation with and others. And we welcome all information whether it be from crime stoppers wondered if all kinds of office a letter itself as. Commenting on a -- and the police tape cordons and one SP to detective. However we get the information we can stop put those pieces to deposit gathering -- these cases cleared and arrest me. Diminish just such work so much work that you'll do it is. And you know I'm so thrilled for you I'm thrilled for the NO PD and I'm thrilled for the city that your gonna be -- television show. 48. And that is all about the importance of the first 48 hours. Any kind of an example of -- for the first 48. Her off. But an important things is -- as a detective you can only -- for about 48 hours before you really start break dynamic in society can no longer. Really function right to the first forty hours of investigation you run really hard on limited sleep because after that you kind of he kind of crash in -- You know initially when he -- that scene everything it's still there. He can never reprocess the scene when you pick it up you've got to do right the first time because you can never go back and redo it went to collect evidence when you measure things out. It's done went to clear the scene you know witnesses to -- People give. You know lose interest you don't know pay attention -- so when it's fresh. That's when you have the most opportunity to develop the solve ability factors that we're looking for Thompson in the first 48 hours this crucial. But the investigations for other for us last forever excuses don't go away and then I loved ones are grieving forever. Even to the court process even you know through all that these cases just they stay with us for our unions for years and and we get calls throughout the year especially this time a year from victims families of unsolved cases in the past and you -- still. Trying to explain to them we might be done you know and sometimes you have to just be. -- system wherein the brick wall is a way you know when -- dead -- is and that's that's a difficult thing to tells them. You made and very interesting statement we're talking on in the commercial about. Once you make the arrest I think the majority of people think well you've accomplished the job announced on that's the beginning. From the Iraq. That's the really the beginning of the work of these detectives I'm -- make an arrest. That you know that's the bulk of your work is preparing their case for the -- Stern's office and that includes scene and search warrants look for additional evidence. Official interviews I'm all sorts of staff found -- and forensics evidence being processed. He's the cases don't impressed with the arrests that's really when the bulk of our work starts because. Get my case the DA's office is not an easy thing -- getting prepped for -- are prepped for our presentation to a grand -- is an easy thing so. I'd say at the bulk of the work of these cases comes when that arrest is -- And so you were also saying that you would have anywhere from like last year six to twelve cases each detective. And so you're working many simultaneously. Right. Yes it's it's about prioritizing and organizing itself to be able to do it around to being. In the middle of one investigation very close and RS but he called out. To start an investigation so it's all about trying to be able to prior attach yourself and make sure you know how to. If you aren't a clock be ready to go. How much and -- we are all now a part of CSI. All of us think we probably RC yes -- people what the thought. How much of it is that effect. And how much of it is our witnesses that ultimately. You'll get the guys. You -- vote. I our relationship with the state police crime lab that does our DNA. Is has become tremendously important to all of our investigations. And they can do some amazing things up there. Which is still gonna have somebody that can tell you what happened they can put a lot of things together for -- frantically but a witness can tell you you know. What happened and what people did so. They're both important. But he -- the things it. Our crime labs doing in the state police crime -- and owner are really amazing sometimes when you kind of talk to these analysts and you find out some information -- -- from the forensics. Even sometimes of we have like video surveillance on crime saints. Does -- attorney's office or. Parts of the investigation still require. Us to have a witness to go with what's main theme on that footage. Because we can you can interpret something homily and I can interpreted another way so. We still our main goal is to have that eyewitness. Identification made and knowing that we have someone out there who can tell us what happened is it's very important -- I was gonna ask Maggie is their training or is it natural on how he interviewed someone to get information. It's a little bit of -- let's say. Yeah. Some people are actually better interviewing obviously home. I could say honestly not. My partner is better and I am with interviewing and I and I realize that on but yeah we we do get through some training or a lot of training actually. On how to interview people how to read people in. Think it's the gift that dance yeah I did not yet to be able and I talk to people yet -- -- relate to people you can't just. Going to some of you know neighborhoods and think that you can. Approach everybody and certainly you know you have to be able to do it. So point where people feel comfortable talking to you at the bottom line you you can't assume that. They want to talk to you because they don't you have the panda. Push and push and push him breakdown and that wall that they put out. That some people -- having the police department is just really. It's a tough job to do. Not everybody ought to talk to us out of credit must cooperate. But. If you can try relates to people. And I think living in the city. Your lifetime as all of us have it's a little bit easier because. -- from Mary kinda feel a lot better by doing your job and wanted to -- out and is -- -- -- -- please do come from the environment. Absolutely. -- kind of shift here to the personal. I loved your comment mega event you have two dogs. And an angry old cash yes yes we talk about the angry old hat tiger has had them. She's my childhood -- Guy probably -- twelfth birthday moves now nineteen. And -- very cranky on I would even say possibly suicidal but. He he he stays in utility room and there's a few times -- caught on with his opponent audible -- on chewing on a liar yeah so. He's you said tiger this isn't the way to dad I mean yeah I mean I think he's a little upset every morning when he when he wakes up you know that that that he did in fact we cannot settle from put some therapy. I guess you -- -- for him yeah let's look at their minds to and that's money and get stoned on campus yeah credible it's great that it is good stuff yeah. You to have children yes you do it balancing of the different kind. Yes that's together when children now. A teenage daughter and you have three yes I have a teenage daughter and a seven any Euro. Unreal. It's a busy schedule we keep a busy household now there into sportswear at the park where exports -- school. My husband and I -- on how we do with our schedules that we make it work. Immigrant and so you're sitting at a game watching one of the kids play. And you've got -- -- whenever yes and they're talking to you and you bolt yes will be -- takes over cars and we have to have Annan you know. -- -- -- my car just in case I have to leave -- you know. So we just make -- work. And does your daughter. Think that you -- hero. Now mind on his fourteen years -- But I think that she's she's amazing you know she's very low drama not throw it bothers her. Nothing gets to her she just keeps plugging along and SI am I'm really lucky in that regard that she's just such a good kid -- I guess. Ever thinks they can agree -- and -- she's an amazing. Amazing -- It's nice to hear it's very nice to hear. How do you relieve stress. Up to catch fish and I that I try not to talk to him too much she sees anger on. I like to go to -- and work out and you know it's my power so to just get away couldn't you know it's time iPod and listen to whatever music and know that. Nothing can out of me and just mean that mean the weights you know -- and get a good feeling. And a good stress reliever you know when analog stuff sent to tune out yes -- -- -- you know there's no phone -- -- you know. It's just just me you know and -- swing in my thoughts -- that's a good offense good what about you. I -- like this and from a fish tank a fish tank at home I just kind of zone out and -- Remove myself from you know ramat what I'm doing and kind of just gives me a little bit of a break in the day so. That now. And I like to complain to my squad mates about you know things that are going on it's it's cathartic for -- -- needs good. People that you know you are like the same thing in. You remember that you're not alone and in the challenges you face an everyday so that's important to hold it very important. Come I love my DVR I catch -- Obama shows sound sometimes throughout the weekend and I love my saying so I wait for Sundays playing catch up on my DVR and I think it. As about as much as I can do when I'm home. Pulling aside from us and around with the. Did. You know that you got him -- he gonna -- even if it's a fifteen minute break and -- -- the craziness detective and Maggie darling sergeant Nicholas Garnett and detectives Melanie -- our special guest today. For our open Mike. What was the initial draw for you to want to do police work. I like the idea of -- I'm obviously in office and held Qaeda like the idea of. You know being able to -- to go out there and off. -- about the in the -- girl then. Also highlight the different challenges is something different every day you don't really get bored with it. You know you never know what you Tennessee from one momentum Maxine you know 1000 patrol. -- the range of calls you know you never know if any Hanlon the typical you know as loud music. Complaint or -- -- panel on a homicide or. If any points or money from a vehicle crash or you just never know the adrenaline is also a bit of internal and jockey second -- But com. You just never knowing what we going to be dealing with -- To sharp has it been everything you hoped it would be yes yes it's pretty fulfilling. You know oftentimes sadly because I think the majority of people. Really appreciate the work you know PD I mean I read newspapers I didn't lose but I'm telling the majority of people truly appreciate what you do day in day out. And yet they'll always be the ones that. Our current -- how do you handle those -- have you ever had somebody just confront you in the last -- I'm sure. -- people feel the -- -- event source you know and were pretty much for social workers you know so. They'd they'd feel the need to vent so listen we just we we take -- I mean -- we -- people sometimes on their -- you know -- brother for a reason. And you know he's just learned to deal with that incidents. To our reflection of that person it just me. And a bad you're you know. I'm gonna have yet that you headsets on because we have a special caller I believe it is chief surpass. And allowing you I'm doing great because I got three great people in this room with me. Well we're very very proud of all of our detectives in department members and these -- in particular but I was curious since this is more call and a not a professional police exchanged. I've noticed that they've been some Morse snappy dressing going -- on the third -- -- the 48 it's been around wonder if any of them would be willing to speak to that question. Let's see if we have to keep up by a professional for a -- -- feel that -- the apple perfect investments that are at the but let me tell you she has a camera in her face. And she's dressed to the ninth. Thank you very much. I'm I'm very glad you do in this central the people no longer going to be very impressed tonight when I watched the first 48 on any at 8 PM it's going to be great. And we can't wait let me tell you the woman who runs our lobby who is to -- runs the station when I walked down was screaming. This is my favorite show I can't believe that we're doing at New Orleans really excited. Art but these issues on this and -- stop bush is screaming because the cat -- it's put in the water and was also. He's really paying attention. Very -- The three New Orleans up police department detectives. I don't think anybody would disagrees such a difficult job one that you clearly trained for I'm not saying that you don't have the skills. But I would just imagine today in day out what you have to sees tough. Because you are residents here -- citizens here you were born here and and this is your community so when you see death and you see violence. And pastor. It has to Wear on you so I'm gonna ask real quick again how do you do you compartmentalize. So that in fact you do have. A normal life. Yeah I would I would say so. On I think you actually have to -- have to leave which you see it work it work. And you have to have people around you that can support him really know what she going to -- when something does by the -- -- trust share -- Team members enough to kind of reach out to them and tell them in on this. This scene here was this that this is in this is horrible what have you get it. That's mighty kind of lean on and a lot of times it's it's him the other detectives in the squad that. Think we have to define our normal. Because I don't think anybody. Can do my normal as opposed to making during the day. It's just being able to put yourself. Where you feel most comfortable. We all do these to the best of my ability and biggest challenge at times but. You have to be able to find your. -- ground. On the show which starts tonight. As the chief said is at 8 o'clock at 8 o'clock -- -- not to be missed what do you hope people see from. Act out that they see the hard work that. Our detectives put an -- until the guys on my client detective Johnson and he's at the Williams will be featured on tonight's episode. They work extremely hard armed detective Johnson just recently lost a brother to our own violence in the city but. He's been ample -- it back and continues our work as a homicide detective. I give a lot lot of lot of respect to him for that aren't being able to come back into this because it is hard time. This is going to be a great show is gonna do great things for the city aren't they can see how we start from the beginning and work -- through. Not all cases can be solved immediately but we do have a goal and mine every time we step. In today's street to be able to solve these cases there has to be moments of frustration on your part as a coach Amanda asked let's talk about that. -- -- sometimes -- know -- are a lot of times we know who we believe our shooters are. And you just kind of hit that brick wall and you know it's pressuring trusts. Kennedy a thousand times more frustrating for our families that you know the victims' families netware. We're talking to and that we're acting within. Now are you can just kind of -- look and it kicked -- other ideas with other people on the squad and see if somebody else can come up with a better way. To go at it it's frustrating but at least we have some -- you know we can pass around our frustration a little bit. But you know for the the regular citizens saying you know you know who it is we'll know who it is why can't you just go grant them is just not been easy. -- -- -- -- -- Actually sit down and talk to someone. -- have to -- -- talk about you know you can't just assume they're gonna tell you the truth because nine times out of ten enact. You have to have something out of you know level playing field to start with and then can match show you detect hand. And use which you know against them. To disprove their lives because they're gonna be I think that unfortunately there -- no lines. We will want everybody to be honest with us but is just not the reality of the game and you know when someone's lying in your face absolutely. -- you feel it. You know it's hard to make an arrest from murder but it's supposed to be hard and has asked -- to be an easy think -- should you gotta get it right. That's the way to -- on justice system set -- that supposed to be hard to bring. A murder case against somebody because you. In a taken when a person's life that that suspect's life seat he minimum she give their writing that's why it's a difficult. When you feel very confident that you put put together everything that can be put together. And that person goes to trial and gets off. Does your heart just drop it does -- yes it does. And it's you know we work. So closely with the addition to earnings over it just -- as -- office that you know it's we all kind of feel it right then it's. It's just we've all been there -- -- not guilty verdicts come back and insist that. It's like a punch to the guy now that. -- pick yourself up because if you dwell on it. It's like -- on -- -- to a 10 loss can't do day got to move on because it's not a case -- a -- -- prefer that they not the case waiting in UNC getting out there and you got to work. That next case it's coming now. What can I know this is a lot to ask but what do you think. We could do to sort of stop the killing fields that we know we have in this community. Again I want to conclude that -- Think you know I mean a lot of us. Murders that that. End result of a lot of things breaking down and our city right it's not it's not the beginning so. We had to catch you skits and a lot younger than when they become shooters because once they become shooters that's mandated and that in that. There's -- coming back from an act and a changed epidemic you can catch some and there are a lot younger and give them a lot more opportunities a lot more. Self worth. You know then they'll start valuing other people's lives and I think that that's you know we're kind of the end when it reaches us that's that says it's done -- -- -- if somebody would if we could. Work with these kids a little bit sooner in my -- make a difference. Think found when we do have a chance to interact with them even -- investigations. Just reinforced that we need to support them when at the bank as we -- not happy and heard him. We wanna see them succeed we wanna help into the if there's anything we can do I have. Student and international school that I have to do a -- ship with. Fiscal year and she's gonna -- a paper on what I do and how she wants to. Passes to pursue their career so it's it's all about being able to. Did in and Mikey says -- -- -- and relate to them and -- compelling content company yes. It's like. I interviewed a young man who hadn't gotten in trouble and now is no longer in trouble and got -- -- full time job but he is so right on track and I asked him. You know what do you think this -- slipped -- young man he's not a kid anymore. And he said you know it it really starts and parenting. But he says not everybody has parents and not everybody has parents who don't have big issues yeah exactly and it was a very powerful statement that it's. It's maybe not even a parent -- not even have anyone at all to support them and tell them hey you get a good job on your report card pay less that I do this homework. It's just it's a lot to do to be a parent this is not an easy task and -- But we have to just be able Libya I was sort of support from aside our role to these kids in them act and the city. -- Different thoughts I can read your face stiff enough ally great. You're great but I agree wanted to present. So it is it's sort of from education in the -- you know parenting. And well this has been one of my most fun days and I really mean that. Three New Orleans on detective detective -- darling sergeant Nicholas Harrington and detective. Melanie Dylan and they're going to be among many others the stars of the first 48 which airs tonight. And it's going to be a really a whole year following. Our detective bureau about what it's really about as citizens now I'd like to know from each of you what you hope for this community. In the future. To continue to rebuild I mean it's. -- after Katrina obviously you know a lot of things are destroying its nice now we're at that turning point where you started seeing some of that. Normalcy appear again things are remember from before Katrina that you -- forgot about it you know and. The citizens or just. Even more outgoing you know now in more appreciative of us. And so that's good. -- that's very that. I'm I hope that you know and -- we'll look back at this time that we're going through a lot of changes like difficult changes in that we'll look back we'll see that we were on the right track. Right and that we're we're moving in the right direction I think we are. But I think that title -- right time I'm really hoping that. Scalia's from now we'll look back at these last few years and -- -- we really at the beginning. You know I. Some some good things in this city -- I hope the citizens and some of our victims' families are able to see our hard work through the first 48 some -- cases are solved. But I hope they're able to see that we do put a 100% and with every case that we had and sometimes we aren't able to give them the closure that they need but. We work up until a point where we can't market. Anymore without any outside help. But I just hope that they can see how how we're working and that we don't give up on and you may not call every single day to give an update but we do. Keep those cases in mind you know we know -- victims leave we've become actually almost an extended part of their family so. Just hope that we are able. I was able to show us in that light. And see how hard -- we do work. I tell you what this hour has shown me is how incredibly human new more food and it isn't just a job. Now it is now he can't it's much more than in Edmonton. And when you say you're those families -- your family's hands I mean we all suffer from what's going on I can't thank you enough continued success to all of you thank you thank you stay with us -- have another hour of what's going on right after this.