Jan 7, 2014|
Garland talks with Steve Monaghan of the Louisiana Federation of Teachers about why America continues to fall behind other countries in terms of education.
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The project -- -- at about education localities. And actually you ever actually. And here is one of the reasons why and distant from. Newspaper article called -- of the country's huge better white students stupid rooms city's opening paragraph steps. The American workforce has some of the weakest. Mathematical. Problem solving schools in the -- work. Recent survey by the organization for economic corporation and development a global policy organization adults in the you know -- -- cents. Scored ball or below average -- better mental leaked them. Twelve altered developed and terrorists and country Italy and it's getting worse now. And indices is losing -- and worker training to countries in Europe and Asia whose schools -- not just superior to our boats. But getting steadily better. Get a better handle on. -- always say in the media today would be reviewed talk shows with the newspaper. Television blogs. You just don't know him more. As a conservative. Opinion is -- liberal opinion. -- -- reading the story to get to listen. That being blown out of proportion to -- want to read. Shall we do we carried the could make a -- expert for a southern and commend. Give us some ideas while the what I am reading -- faults some word. You Monahan has been very good about -- of president Lou you're an apparent rejection of teachers should welcome back pure corporate shoot. Aren't happy -- tribute saying you so what thoughts do you have when you hear me read. The United States is losing ground to. A lot of countries in Europe and image -- And our schools. Compared to the nerves and not just superior ball were Poland for the ball. Lot I think you opened it excellently and I actually -- that for the centuries and far distant divining the church from the paragraph and having a reasonable conversation about it. Out of the context -- a liberal -- let's say the conservative viewpoint Republican Democrat. That that's where we have to begin to -- or are stored which would once simple statement. Before -- can give an opinion on that piece of steady because that's the origin of this the program for international student assessment. I have to context my position meant that position kind of work where you're standing looking out of that window and trying to make some sense of all of it. That means if I can I have to be careful that I'd also like chicken little. Which is the context here in a little bit. It's -- guys following America is just sliding continued degraded best. And that I have to wonder why we still have the most dominant economy in the well. The most creativity of any people that that is surfaced on the globe as scores the patents filed in and in the court decree as the. -- -- Talent that don't spring -- to severe -- time I have to question how we care. But and I also have to address that took the tax -- of where this so stacked so so. Processes with me Garland in the now you know and we could have just conversation. Piece of steady. Basically. It would defection gave this is where that starts that takes 4500. Students. Sixteen euros. From a 165. Schools. From around the US. Meaning fifty states. We're talking about a maximum -- eighty students and financing needs students were chosen from Louisiana because of course -- consider populations harassed. Now they -- in the areas of science math and reading. Now in America. We are demographically. Selecting from -- in selecting from all categories. Whereas in for instance in China they select from. They don't include the most impoverished students in those cast. Nelson these tests were given in the international comparisons began in the sixties. America has never. Finished near the top in India and the international comparisons. From the sixties. Never -- but yet America continues to produce. You know the great wonderful thinkers in in in very talented people. Sold it did it does defines since the great riddle. In one recent report is torture gear preparing for the conversation. Was really uninteresting. That's from the sixties. The study in the sixties where we did so very very poorly. They looked at the gross national product of the countries in 64 but did much better. None of them were in forty years later on them -- global economy economic giants. As the as the as the time passed. So whereas I'm not chicken little and -- America has to do much better. We have to look at the study and see what is it working and taking countries like -- in in Canada and. -- -- and saying what are they doing differently that. That may be. A way to improve what we're doing here. Our do you got to take a break could put -- hold those thoughts. Jury introducing which -- saying it's come back talk about each and every one. Word talking with the OC Monahan do present -- unit federation teachers. Talking about a a couple of reports that suggest the United States. Education is not keeping up with a lot of the world especially. The more progressive countries. Steve had some pretty good robot love -- oh look look from the back from the sixers tonight well. -- -- -- And and we're we're we're the play for the patent happen where the players were much of the talent has formed -- What do you think Gibbs called to -- 017. Told -- anywhere in the country and 66889. Steroids governing. We will be back screws as soon as fast as possible. They -- about reports as. American workforce. Some real problems weak groups mathematical. Problem solving skills in the developed world this report blog via. Organization economic. Corporation development global policy organization. Says you know -- NC scored four below average. Most developed countries it was compared to receive money and with the resolute museum of federation of teachers -- mud gotten this wrong but wrecked me. -- hoopla understood butcher says do. You basically said number one and number of their of the country -- it's not really fair comparison because the -- -- -- Progressive. Highly functioning schools for examples. And I think you also said -- is this is true we keep hearing stories. Over the decades. Why we have so much so what do we do all the captains why does our economy continued to grow what part did -- good. Don't think you'd -- yes on the I think in in trying to put myself in positioning it as well and good times station if you. I don't want to sound like an apologist for for situations where we get on the network to -- I guess I'm -- and adding to -- since that the the international comparisons in many ways our option be driving. Aspect of the conversation. The problems that we happen if we would deeply and more deeply into the study. And in look at their countries for instance like Finland Finland's those -- well he's been at the top. But it Finland is in obsessed with the issue. Over casting -- qualification of how well their students are doing. Just by testing testing testing testing billions of dollars in America continues to stand. Our testing kids in public schools to choose the right answer from a selection multiple children's questions. -- a country that seemed to be doing well or investing in what we consider do you wrap -- services they're associating. The obstacles education where we're at it brings to school culture arrangements. We have grown exponentially in a room for the poor in America. Right -- about 50% of all the children in in the public schools in America or are coming from from impoverished families. When will we have done grow over the years from our perspective. Is where. Attempted to isolate the school. As being the place where all these poor children calm there's no relationship to their performance of the poverty that the conditions at home. And I think the other nations have attempted to address those issues battered and we path. I think what that's what we can pick up from the past. And that in the investment in public education or Providence Haitian by the way -- -- make that clear the steady. It's saying the same thing about American pride in education because that's sampling is from the 4500. Students that they sample. Are coming from. Both private and public schools. So yes you can tell you you can probably summarize because I -- scratched my head -- wonder are we doing so. Continued but it should be where we are as a nation I think or reasons for that and that and that has to do -- that creativity and our openness that the as a society. Let me bring in some of these -- -- to -- thing we have in. Dolan Rea appreciate the call welcomed should do. Well. A government collected all the computers. Paula. Countenance no problem. Actually very good subject. That the cut people's mind. -- education in Europe and one of the differences that I and I should be seriously -- It start educating the entire student body and where I'm comfortable especially in public schools to have. Up a list of -- elected student. That they actually. Allow to participate in the quality of education and 80% of about the -- student. Only can look at the program but never really participate in the program. And the blood -- the Dubai and other nations as you have indicated Angela and others. They educate the entire student body -- to educate the pre selected that they have that kid on the principle player. And opera at the consent that because I have had come close and I have. Confront the council is about program that day. Under the table have given to the student that they let the principles reflected and the rest. And debate that this. Well I don't revenue in the personal information regarding have any any under the table kind of dealings. I would I would simply say that within in the context of American education we have. We have gifted programs within public schools and address I think he's very adequate look -- address -- -- address the needs of students and those. Those teacher. Pupil ratios are much more saying we have a lower you know number it's -- the classroom. I think that that things that we're doing in do you take this from the listener. The things that we're doing into any select group of students that we should be in that -- working we should be applying to to the general population. And it should be more inclusive and I do you take the point and it should make an accurate point in regard to. And him and the manner in which Finland. Processes their their their their system. Well let me play doubles as a substitute to watchers do and and that makes a lot of since -- saying but that was. They can about it as you explained to in the in the article we we sent troops from New York Times more with the and that is says. Were -- and you're in which globalization. In the implementation technology revolution. Have -- -- simply reforming. What was the basis of our middle class for so many years highway. Middle skilled job. And when you when you talk about talent that we continued Purdue's. -- again. Of deploying devil's advocate that because we shall have harbored in Stanford and deal and etc. Heidi and scooped. We still. Have been. We curb there at the corner around patents. Because we're or an open society them we can progress from within idea. But. What makes me wonder -- -- is gonna continue. I come from the sixties. You don't -- -- -- our classroom was dissolve moons and fives Krugman and six or seven -- Owens. We could every. We could rise right and we can do simple man. Today I hero on the regular basis. That we can't keep up with the technology. We don't have the basic skills to -- today. Wall street journal of food stamps -- unemployment checks being delayed the because the government. Can't find enough Americans to do simple. Rude and they -- technical work or -- -- falling behind. Like. I'm an important -- background actually -- -- -- gone in and end in again. You can't deny the fact that when you were in that setting. You came to school. In width 88 if family unit that was pushing in this direction it should have been approached. So it wasn't the only two good sisters that we're doing it good. Pretty much the emphasis will be whether it was a clear. Girl and you don't want -- -- a rocket scientist coming from home but there was you were going to be. Do better than I have done. America's got to the place analysts say -- societies split. I look at the world is where I grew up and we do -- there isn't in trench generational. Network of poverty there. That there isn't what you and I once knew. And we haven't gotten -- way in there in our minds than it did to address the fact. That jobs that the parents have all parents that don't even exist in the child's life. Aren't going to be distance of the major determine how well those students do. And I don't think we should be just talking about this from the end of from the position where we are. Or how it used to be. I think Portugal where can we do that we are now. That's -- that every one agrees there's a consensus point no matter where the liberal or conservative or whatever. The best time in the most successful way to address the problem. Is to invest in early childhood education for children all children early as possible. Two kids these children an opportunity to be ready for school. And I'm talking about earlier the better. We are lagging behind every one of those nations that we point fingers -- that are doing so called better than we. We are not ingesting as we shoot an area and that would be a major. That would mean more at the end goal of this -- has stressed that we're giving right now in regard to changing -- com. -- and kids slot and so yeah you're right I do think we do have a problem that's why I'm not saying I don't think it's international. Comparison -- that petition drive the conversation we should be a look outside the window of what you see in the community in New Orleans are seen in baton urged. We don't need to know I mean it's not as relevant to need to know what's happening in in Shanghai. It's a different society -- -- So did you make some very good points as always enjoy having -- on the sure appreciate it Don. Have a very happy new year. You Judy Garland appreciate it will be possible arson and a parking free year end and it's some other -- okay. It's you've got to -- -- -- Over objects will have above Leslie Jacobs hopefully its founder of educated now home will continue this conversation. What are you pick. A little bit more loose their participation 26018. Suddenly. 86 dictated -- you would settling -- read anywhere in the country. Think our educational system is getting better it would sure of those reports from New Orleans. I don't think so much around the rest of the country. What do you see will be -- would hear that makes you determine one border and a two. There's a general won -- up.