And our final hour we're going to be talking with mayoral candidate a judge Michael Beck Maris and I certainly appreciate you coming in. You just step down from the course. After this. Run for office are you wishing you were back in the court. -- -- Well funding is. I don't know if I'd use that word but. I realize that it was something that was necessary. And and ninety and to see through. Let me just ask the you know did that are -- quality of life report in people. Clearly sent a message that the majority of people felt things were going in the right direction. That they -- high approval rating for Mitch Lander. What are used to seeing that perhaps others are not. Well. I don't know exactly how old the the poll was done. But I'm going across this I've gone across this city and back come up with a whole different result my poll. I see a poll which talks about eight tale of two cities. So that the that the people who are benefiting. From the EI economic. Structure of the city right now. All proper ones who think it is going in the right direction. But if you asked of people out new -- disease in the night wore blue and I want to open that walked in gentility. In central city in Algiers. I'm sure you gonna get a resounding the city is -- going in the right direction. Would you agree that. When the mayor took over four years ago he inherited a hundred million dollar deficit he quickly received two consent decrees that are costing a fortune. And that you know that those were big hits in a city that never has enough money. What would you have done differently. With the money we do have. Well first of volume premier who stepped into the office always steps in with a deficit. There's been no leader whose stepped into the office who's had a surplus. Period. As it relates to the consent decrees. Yes is the consent decrees on the -- but it's not for instance demeanor keeps touting the 55. Million dollars that comes from the new loans police department's consent decree. But that's something that doesn't have to be pretty at all at -- You know you have. Approximately five years in which to to pay them off. So you Raj structure in order to lie to address that indebtedness. But as -- as our budgets have been out of the last years. Five or six million or ten million dollar consent agreement to hit. Because you have a couple of them not just the police. Exactly but I mean it's it's also a lot it's also adjustment so it's something that you did that you have to do -- -- is no question about that. In a ways that you can. Actually. Deal we made it. And perhaps bring. Well dedicate funds for instance if you have a 55 million dollar indebtedness and you got five years to to -- at all. Then you're talking NC roughly. And eleven million dollars. You know I a year all right so you look at the budget. And you see first evolved where can you get it within your budget. This smear. Has. Seven point three million dollars more in his office running his office than the previous smear. That seven point three million is basically comprised. The salaries out of being pretty into the deputy Amir -- into the 100 urban specialist. So a lot I believe the gas money that can be. Reorient it -- the indebtedness. The for the for the consent decree yeah exactly. And there are other there other. Funding. Mechanism for example we don't have. We don't have a collect all all of our sales tax. That's why you see so many. Amnesty programs stall of the and you see child you you can get a instead of paying your full amount of money you can pay 30% for 2% and some percentage of which you exactly -- People who worked in that department before indicated. That once you send a letter out advising. The business that they were behind in their taxes. If they didn't pay it once the letter came out if you immediately filed. And followed up what what we call almost a summary judgment. They paid it then rather than wait for it to build up so we basically these enforcement of the present laws laws has already on the book. In order to acquire more funding into the into the treasury. On that subject because we've touched on this before. This city does need more money not everybody pays taxes. And the discussion of whether nonprofits. Which would mean the educational institutions and churches other nonprofits. As in other communities might pay -- -- not necessarily attacks but defeat as they in fact we do use the facilities the streets the water at center. What are your thoughts on that BG argued a big report suggesting that might be a good venue for money. I believe that the we look at the particularly non profit. And what that non profit is contributing. To the city. If in fact that nonprofits contribution to the city. Outweighs. What it would cost for the city to provide that same service. Then. Maybe we allow the -- -- -- to exist. If it if we don't value it in terms of what it contributes to the city disservice to contribute to deceit and maybe we. -- so the bottom line would be it depends upon. This service that is being rendered. But it nonprofit. As to whether that service would be something that the city would have to pay far. In the event the -- non profit didn't exist. I think it's also that many nonprofits and I'm primarily educational institutions and churches only other structures. Other than that the the main school room of the main church. And should those other structures and tax well that's a different story and yes I believe that that ought to be the case okay. Still talking about -- money let's talk about Europe vision for economic development. So many. Opportunities for this city I barely even know where -- -- 41. We we don't take advantage. Of our own raw talent he. And I'm the only candidate. Is talking about. Making music. This business industry. That he -- in should be we have recognized. Recognizable talent globally. Yet we don't do the production. Walking distribution. Publishing of music. There's no reason why someone like he a -- -- Blanchett should go away to have to do a school awful film as he does a lot of that war. That all that can be done right should be done right here in new -- and it we've dealt with the business of music. That alone would be in industry that would bloom given all the talent that we. We don't utilize all port nearly as much as we should be utilized in now port for example we we import. A tremendous amount of lumber from the far as the South America. There's no furniture manufacturer anywhere around the high point in North Carolina. Has. People coming from all over the country to buy their furniture because they able to make it good furniture. Inexpensively. We will have the advantage of being able to take the raw material -- If we did was call add on value and the value on by making. Have any furniture company. We should be able to explain. Astronomically. The Folgers coffee company because of all the the coffee beans. That come in from South America we always referred to is the gateway. The South America MI. My response to that is so what. Because we don't take advantage. Of being the gateway with all of this raw material coming through you know we don't do the add on value. Villages a couple of suggestions as it relates to. New revenue. Stay with us we're gonna continue our discussion with judge Michael back -- candidate for mayor right after this. Judge Michael that nearest -- retired Monday in the next day jumped in the ring for mayor. I work and continue our discussion on economic development the. One of the 01 other aspect in terms of I guess new revenue. Would be for us the city of new long and too. Develop its own. Retail outlets like Macy's. JC Penney's Dillard's. Target best buys. We don't have any of those options here and what that means is that in. Jefferson Parish. We -- -- these -- one point nine billion. Dollars. Annually by shopping at. Leaks that pass from the ball in the the other places that I mentioned. If we -- at it we that option here. If we have those options here then. At C one point nine BA and -- would be about a hundred million dollars in in taxes. A hundred million dollars legal alone way in pain mandated things that you actually about early. How would you get the man especially since we do have so much land in New Orleans east how would you. Get those companies to agree to come here. Well just about every city. Who's gotten major companies. To locate in the NCA. Did sold two ways. One the -- humor herself. Went in recruited. Those individual companies and then gave them a plan as to why it would be benefits you. On their behalf to locate. In this city. We would develop such a player and I was a pretty don't good attorney before I became a judge. And track record -- -- columns in one case in private practice so we'll one K -- -- -- -- -- puppet. So. I think it's a I think it's a question of the -- persuasion coupled with. What incentives you would get it in the incentives obviously generally. On the same you know you bring forth in the -- tax poignant. That's going to more goals those companies here. Changing the subject a little bit back to crime you have been very vocal line the need for many more police and I have to say that -- May Mitch Landrieu has sent to her that we need more police he was saying up to 16100. You -- that was definitely got me going. That's what your saying we need four under. Which sounds -- how we gonna get the money for. Well first of all there is in the budget in the it in the budget. There was money set aside -- 14100. I'm sorry 15137. Police offices that was the budget. So as I stated earlier about a question would be since we have less stand on 11100. What happened to the funds that. That should make up the difference between 11115137. And so that's number one. If we already budgeted for 1537. Then you're not talking. But what 63. More. In -- to. Add on to that. Two to 1537. Number. And just to seven point three million that I say that would see from the mayor's office budget. Would be enough to to pay for her four. Six -- 63 more police offices. You have been also very vocal than -- if elected you would. Fire would have been one saint remove a chaser yes to would you into a national search -- would you look inside. I believe both options open and what I what I've already asked for and I asked the police foundation to acquire is forming. The New York has just installed in new police chief. They went through a process we -- He got them a lot of a cloying. Publicly via depressing to be very satisfied. With the the way in which date shows in new police chief. I would first like deceit that a policy and procedure is utilized. I'm already requested all of the documents that we utilized in that process. To see. What. Roll it. Do you all went well that's the biggest city population wise so that we would all look to it. And try to ascertain. What we can news from that policy and procedure. Method. You know that methodology. That was employed by by deal. And and I think it left room for a determination. To go either way. When the fact that you do a national story to begin a national search doesn't balk -- from. Card someone locally. What other things -- judges. To try to fight crime. We have one of the things we have to do -- stop the bleeding. And I don't think there's any doubt about the facts and so panel hasn't cost me. That they have already indicated. That. -- of the on a major problem with police officers leaving. The police force is a -- that they are never communicated with. They always. Talk down to my guess is the best way to put it out try to think about. -- diplomatic way to say it but or ignore it just totally ignored and for instance. They look at they had concerns about their pensions. The city is talking about bringing in a 41 K program. That's a different pension plan and win the office say initially joined the force. We you don't just bring something in that's gonna impact that individual's life. For a very long period of terror and at least have a discussion. They they hit the city was talking in my -- in the human resource department with in the police department. In the offices felt that that was a way to circumvent their rights under the civil service rose. The the offices are presently be charged an hourly rate for of the details that they do. Which is but the city won't cover them. In insurance wise while the on the detail. But the the but you have to get your check through the city for the detail I mean there and number of I think legitimate grievances. That ought to at least be discussed. Rather than -- down the throats of the individuals. That's why we are losing. In this is that this is the city's stats will losing one. Police officer every three days so you stop there you gotta stop the bleeding. You know once you stop the bleeding then you stolen when I called a transfusion the Rick DR recruitment program. When mark morial was mayor. He had three concurrent class is going on -- we needed police officers even then to build up the to build up for us. I think that's a good idea to have three concurrent classes going. I also believe that. You can incentivize. Police officers. To. Come to. Come to New Orleans and in practice you can do that by offering him. Great. Homes here at low interest rates you can do that by. -- allowing them to have deep discounts in tuition. If they wanna continue to academic pursuits. You can go after the military people who are returning. Particularly from Afghanistan. In coming back back home and -- mall that group. As a target that you would like to -- recruit. And the last thing you might want to. Look to your reserves -- -- we used to have as many as. 300 reservists. Now I think we're down to maybe about. -- Stay with this we're gonna continue with the judge Michael back nearest. Not just talking about crime but some of the social issues that we face stay with -- now let's go to Dave Collins in the -- sure. We're talking with judge Michael back -- candidate for mayor. And we were talking about what he would do with the police department. But it isn't just about crime isn't just about police. It's also about some of the social issues we face and clearly we have a high percentage of poverty. In this community and I'm just wondering how you might address that. We have 41%. Of the children in -- -- parish. Classified as being in poverty. And we have 30%. More poverty than our neighboring parishes. Even though we have the parish then there's these suitable was in the final fours and jazz festivals in and everything else. So it's a so it's a big question walk as to why that is that in point I believe. It derives from what I stated earlier we don't have the we don't him jobs here we don't have to -- of this is that that are creating jobs. There was only you'll study that indicate 52%. Black males all around on employ. So I think that the first day that we have to do. Is trained our young people -- jobs that we know are coming home board. We know for -- says that once this one point three billion dollar a hospital is built. They're going to be a lot of good jobs medically related jobs. That our young people should be trained for. And we ought to start bad right now. There -- we we also know. And the construction in Jewish industry is going to need a lot more Warrick as we ought to be training people for that right now. In fact. We ought to be training even for these small business differences I know. I know several young man who can do you home from the ground up right now. -- with -- do is submit a bit. On or any type of construction project because while they have the skills to build. They don't have the business background. To be able to know how to submit a -- on how even to necessarily play and follow the four payroll -- the the other expenses. That they are going to incur. So we ought to be training. Individuals. Right now for that weren't. And I think that would go a long way in in. Indeed be able to not only -- businesses startup but also being able to. Supplies at the job market. We have the jobs that we know -- on line. One of the things that mayor Mitch Landrieu has done is started the -- for life. And I've read where you've said no flight is killing -- what do you mean by that. It gives you the warm Fuzzy that do you get sucked -- is being done. Win something isn't actually being done. Win. Billboards. Don't arrest. Billboards on that really educating. Billboards are not addressing the the job problem on the crime problem. Billboards. Can't do anything except create any public relations. Attitude of some that is being done. And -- midnight -- at midnight basketball which is another one of those all shoots. I'm really opposed to because. I want those individuals. In baited so they give up either either go to -- -- -- all of go to school and have the necessary. Sleep in -- -- to do that. Been -- basketball does that solve -- now crime problem. No but. Would you agree that doubling the amount we -- spending on -- was a needed thing to have kids have someplace to go opening more swimming pools. And at some of the programs such as. When when guys get out of prison. Getting them oriented back into the workforce. Answer both those questions would be yes it was good that no -- no it's a budget was doubled. But I believe that. But I don't think that is the money should have been spent an innate. Basketball. -- -- fine but what would have also have been good if it was a situation where we went in -- walks in just had the waters. Was it called a light sprinkling just really just -- -- key is to be able to run for -- in -- and get wet doing now hot Summers. You can do that several of the talks in the different neighborhoods. In that can't be a really great calls because your recycling the walk. And there. 40% of the water were losing understood and because of our sewage system but. Stay with this we're gonna continue our talk with judge Michael Wagner's right -- -- we're talking with Michael that narrows and we were talking about. Some of our social issues and how we can fix them and the reentry program. It is a positive. Right and I gain Angela I'm the only. Candidate who is indicated that for those individual who's doing business with the city. I would give them. Bonus points if you will if they are hiring from the reentry program. I was talking to someone when Rex -- And was trying to understand. Why. Recidivism was so -- And the he indicated this is the kind speaking that the he would indicate he's as you know society gives lip service to. I've paid my debt to society. Ice is the one that come out he says nobody wants to hire me any job and this was an individual had some some -- and actually the construction industry. And he says I can't get a job I can't get the job if I can't get the job than -- can't put. Bring it on the table so. I am compelled Easter is the first offers a lot of business -- the first audit. They each -- is self preservation as what he said it is self preservation so I'm gonna survive. And I'm gonna survive however I care and that was kind of frightening. Who would -- what it is we when you say hi ever I can't. That was the recidivism point. So while by having programs. That allow. These individuals to. To understand the society isn't just paying lip service. -- we actually are trying to give you a second chance. -- reentry program I think that can go alone way. Very quickly. Big noise ordinance. Very controversial how would you handle. First of all I hate that title you know when you signal it's all I don't think any. Any music coming from. One -- out on this should be described as -- we still out there. So call -- -- sound on his dog collar device melodic but don't call it -- on that immediately points than. In a person's Mac is everybody's going to be against noise I. But the the other thing is while I would enforce the law obviously as a judge you know all -- -- it's would enforce the law this on the books right now. But I think that the audits ought to be rebate. I think that it ought to be revamped and I say that because I believe that all stakeholders. Ought to come to the table that is the audience. The club owners the residents. Even the tourist bureau. You know has get out tourists. A viewpoint as well and then all of those individuals. All well represented -- should meet with the the council and the mayor. And and to work out I'll attempt to work out. Eight in -- that everyone can live with it. And I think even I think that can be done because the technology and gore and -- with that but that can be done. On another subject there is a proposal. That they would remove the railroad. From Jefferson Parish on Metairie road essentially weaving to a couple of New Orleans neighborhoods those neighborhoods are very upset by this. What would you do if faced with that. Apples that. Apple's -- and I'll I'll I'll I'll do is say. Look at the neighborhoods that would destroyed. As a result of the interstate. And and now we're talking about it Lizzy an argument about removing the interstate I don't know if you for me with that it was controversy about that. So yeah I don't think that -- these are thriving communities these these these -- as you indicated neighborhoods. You don't you know. You don't track through neighborhoods with -- -- Just final thoughts on why you -- The city is confronted -- -- a number of challenges. Public safety. Is number one. Economic development and job creation probably number two. And quality of life. Would be. Probably number three. All of those areas. While they're challenging. I believe. I truly believe. That my. Life in my experience. Allows me to confront those challenges. Better than anybody else who's in this race. It is I thank you very much judge Michael back -- for spending the hour with as good luck to you. Stay with us everyone will be right back I'm just really really glad that the three mayoral candidates took the time to spend an hour each. Kind of talking about what they're thinking about. On Mitch Landrieu of course wants to. Maintain when he started and continue for the next four years Michael -- -- and -- not a skiing very much want to get in to City Hall it's in your hands. You know that the election is February 1 Saturday you can already vote now absentee. Over at city hall and other places. But it is in your hands and misses our future for the next four years. Tomorrow we're going to have the three candidates on for one hour who are running for coroner. And then on Monday we're going to have the three candidates for sheriff on joining us for an hour so hope you stay with this but now. Let us join the newsroom where I think Dave Cullen it is. Thank you.