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2-3-14 12:10pm Garland: on the place of sports in America

Feb 3, 2014|

Garland talks with Dr. Arthur Remilard of St. Francis University about whether sports are becoming America's new religion.

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Answer would be saved from making -- Roland Leo they lost again when we thought we. And called the number more prudent that Tuesday. Drug Gordon who's dumping him in conversations would revolt Hillary all mentioned. You'd approached. And approach -- football game to me in meant. And they say it's always very entertaining. It's too bad game and do something so you really mean real difference. Is important. As we got to work in the room number of people would Boortz dissent. And arrived at the last build fuel economy so to speak. At last blow was watching or meet Susan. Susan. When I was watching. The incredible art. Grows and putting. Super. When it looked at these purposes the stadiums. That she took that trillion. When a look at the of the gladiators. In the middle of the the state. So and both forms but in this -- home. Didn't -- like -- religion. I am a Catholic. And Muslims. Or whatever. Coming. Up would wonder. -- -- -- -- -- -- Receptacle were worked your. Church. It again the Euro hole like it. Hoosiers -- you can grow virtually anything. July Google. News sports beat -- rule it. Ago they've read after reports with the the one that it -- -- to -- -- -- on the most interest. Was an article called his religion losing ground -- sports and coauthored. -- -- -- -- I'm calling professor Arthur animal aren't. Professor of religious studies to see prince's university. Also author of some southern civil religions. Imagining -- society in the post reconstruction era protester welcomed news -- -- Well I go -- profit from reliving a lot of -- Agreed wondered the paragraph stated that caught by line in your future or it. 2012 survey researchers -- -- -- -- -- -- to kubert. And the percent of Americans -- claimed they had no religious preference. Compared with the and opposed to huge population of 8% in 1990. Roughly two out of three American. Men 2012. Pew report noted. Their under the impression. That religion is losing influence in the country. Do you do you all of these numbers do you agree with the. Get these numbers and I got to give credit to Michael offer Chris panicky you really get a good job of stating the -- and in this this this does. Come out of some very reputable research centers. And it's following what we've come to call it the -- not Europe you know capture the world -- -- With a habit rather and no and he -- people with no religious affiliation. Divorced parents fining is and that they have spiritual inclinations. It's just that our traditional houses of worship are starting. What do you mean -- spiritual and clinic. All the just -- a general sense that they areas a greater meaning to life that there is value. Beyond the immediate in the material. And that we can experience. Transcendent staying. An unexpected places you if I'm correct you're a painter. And I and I and I and I talked to -- entertainers they'll talk about -- this moment indicating where where something comes over you and you do something you didn't know was in new. And that kind of moment as his spiritual experience that you haven't paid in Korea and sports and that I think a lot of these nuns. Recognize appear very unexpected frequently -- like as for many of them. We think that passports is one way to kind of channel that spiritual energy. All right we're just getting sorted got to take Harper's predicts they -- this. Then the question is his religion losing ground as sports and my question is routes ports becoming religion. We're coming right back to the -- governor abuse. Are welcome back here that the mine but I actually don't some academic backup to that question. Our our sport's. Becoming religion. And I've pulled -- minimum many articles about the one that thought had -- substance to it. Was and I think Washington opposed Serbs called his religion losing ground -- sports one of the co authors propose -- Are the Roma lord joins us at the sports. Up professor. I. -- -- were fifteen years ago just three in ten Americans considered themselves sports programs. By 2012. It was six in ten. That that's been tremendous increase. That it is is that is becoming. Religion of sorts. Well I think that to address reports on both fronts I think that what we've seen in the last -- years of sports really. Jumping into the American. Where you can't afford -- -- -- Super Bowl Sunday even if you were not -- football. You couldn't help but be but at least know that was happening and even -- not football fans are gonna want -- nothing else for the commercials. So just the way in which it has become part of the fabric of American life and an -- media culture certainly. Elevated but then there's also this this sincere interest that people happen to. And you know that the the question is is that religion there's -- a look at -- some people would say that this has become. It religion its in its own right you can look at its its symbols rituals and and the apologies and package those together into something religious in nature. I -- believe in that direction and say that it does characteristically religious things. Two to include. -- just just getting that kind of course cents of that the that we want to have some slippage and it went in our life that we wanted to see something -- usual. And an expected. And that the sort of transits transcendent moments in -- people -- sports give us. Get in that court -- we we all have inside of us. The bottom of the very fact that well live let me quote part of the story about Pia. Arch diocese of New York because it reflects a lot of -- -- round the country. The one in new York and expect outlined plans to close -- -- So look it's 360. Parishes 26 Catholic schools and the arch diocese. -- cease operations. By contrast city and in states all over the country and particularly New Jersey. Spent hundreds of millions of dollars to build new baseball and football stadium. If nothing else doesn't it seem. Like when I grew up you know use you you gave. Percentage of your income to the church now it seemed like we're doing a good person they're -- income two's sports. You're absolutely right in order to revisions. I think that I said such that it got clipped out but I think that I think our tax tied right tactically. We can you did the follow the money thing and you see where -- Where our focus and where attention -- -- yes it's on these is sort of like France called the are new cathedrals. And these are what our -- to become these are where people gather these were people you know witnessed these transcendent moment. Stand. If certainly if you just follow the money trail and see the closing of one sector of society and then it just four Y things life and the other. It's pretty stark contrast. Another part of your article gave little history. -- when and where it says -- for the civil war. Clergyman -- ugly people recorded sports is indeed this destruction. And and -- -- to evil. Seventeenth century. They they name one of the puritans almost all. The extras com and -- the game was among English roots mean instant the ball much all people. You get a Christian magazine -- 51. Said the or higher and no rule object. We came in this world not for sport. And and didn't use it talks about Protestant and members. Who stole Berkshire's under the banner of muscular christianity. Try and compete in there. Their their talks in church with sports. The year of james' name at presbyterian minister who invented basketball -- -- -- young men's Christian association set up for sports. And today -- roaming call -- that they call that the why. So really it feels like we've got a history of being almost implies sports. All the way down to the new religion. Yeah that it's a really good observation a good way of summarizing it there's only been in this. Difficulty you know especially before the civil war. That ministers had with sports what do we do with this thing and there was this line of thinking that the -- needless distraction we need to focus on important. Thanks a trivial things. The important to -- here is that all the time people are doing sports you know horse -- With this huge thing you would have you don't. 100000 people going to New York City to -- this great horse race between -- from the north and of course in the south. Back in the early part of the nineteenth century. You know it was a big deal -- sports enthusiasm has always. Sort of and there are what happened after the civil war is this movement its its outlook for two was muscular christianity started develop to say that you know what. We can use sports that we can see sports differently and understand that they can develop our entire character mind body and spirit. It's safe at these sort progressive ministers somebody like James basement and -- models in moral rights -- the more we develop muscles the more we develop our morals. -- and its purest form -- all sports is being in another way of practicing their religious identity. And so in the early part of the twentieth century religion it's sports spent a lot of time together and there was the whole talk about it or sport could help build character. Make us better people. And and certainly the combination of both body and spirit and mind all coming together -- which collapsed around something like the white NCA. With the -- cook wrote a lot about that he was sort of like the prime philosopher. Couple points CA and he talked a lot about these these sorts of things. -- and so you know these two things started to quote to gather in the early part of the twentieth sentry and I think would respect in myself with. Was you know kind of sport going one direction and then religion going the other and you know that's what we decided to focus on. It does it surprise you when you're maybe you haven't heard -- but I certainly evidence supported. Broad really got intrusive than this. I've got fringe of god coworkers. That seriously say I'm depressed after a game and it had elapsed a couple of days or more. And always say or or -- series you're just using that word well and good for us. What what's that about it. That is very real I live right outside of Pittsburgh. And if the Steelers lose you can't walk down on the streets of Pittsburgh to concede people's shoulders slumped over. There is no joke you know that they have hospitals where the you know the people of heart problems there to turn the GameStop. There's an intimate story back and I think it was 2006. When the Steelers went to the Super Bowl toward a playoff run. I -- that that fumble near the end of the game and almost lost and that was the guy watching this game in the party had a heart attack at the moment of the on the and he came back as he came back and when he was in the hospital the first words he asked the first words the apps work did we win into. Portable -- you may -- that is probably acted the immediate and you're starting this kind of thing I can make that. I do and I think our play. It's taken very seriously. It's a black belt spades a playing field that these -- out -- spaces where we have a unique set of rules that apply only place. And when we get in there we suspend everything that's happening on the outside and we focus only on the. So you know I mean think about it in your office nobody. Program tackling each count but nobody wearing -- hat that would be respectfully you would get locked up for that sort of thing but on -- Force summaries and sports has the ability to let us -- something serious -- it's the same time. Consequential to the you know anything real -- You would like make of it I'm not sure but I just know that it's very real and I mean that if you think about it you don't use that you that you preface that you you come from a Catholic background if you came from a non Catholic background. And maybe saw the eucharist he wouldn't it be to -- the to a Catholic. That is it -- play in front. And that is very real and that is very serious. And so the perspective. Of of the -- and involved in their mindset and what they're acting in. Is very important in trying to understand why we take these things of series. And is this relatively. Recent in my 20s30s. 40s50s. I never remember people saying you're under pressure after -- to -- ball gamer at Tulane football game. Is this something that that is relatively new. You know what's funny is I'm going to Baton Rouge later this week to give a talk about to their football team in 1908. And they went undefeated. But they were not deemed champions of itself because there were allegations. From. Great went right up in Nashville and also for too late -- two lane with their quick rival. There was allegations that LSU had had players and paid player. Now they were later cleared it was probably case that they had rigors of his -- By. BP intensity. With which people were rebutting these clay would just as intense and I think it's it is now there was a great headlines with a Baton Rouge newspaper that had. Bruce is gone football crazy. And their big game against Auburn and they were probably oh I don't know 800 people. Who got on a train to go up to watch this game and offered to cheer on their you know sort of Cinderella story team you know -- it's been OK but this was by far the best team it. In 190 and it really like they're probably still people. Format about getting snubbed out of the championship themselves. Would you one final question and -- -- and wounded Tuesday of whiplash from our business yeah. Well a couple of days ago there was couple articles so blown in buffalo. Roman Catholics. Together. And what they do begin on FaceBook in quarter. And they know Monday. From the public churches. In either -- And then they have a -- mall website. And he put of the three Perot vote in whichever one wins. They have a flash mob shore up at church with all the people. And the big one church -- you prepared for hell. An 800 people show -- when they usually have fewer than fifty is this the future does does religion. Compete with sports does that mean more sport's most sports -- on Sundays. By using technology. You know I think that it would I can't predict the future. And I am not replaced it makes. I'm not you know kind of like paper that the culture is what they do but I. Under the that you met and reviewed the -- But I you know I think that it probably in the state. Could do what to you know other people are doing whether that sports or whether that's media what with what that is. I think -- churches need to do what they do. And they have you know within christianity 2000 years of history of garnering passionate passionate attachment and sometimes. The -- and very committed other times it's been lukewarm. I think that they have an opportunity. To look at themselves to look at their traditions and to translate that for a new generation. So they bring a new group of people into the full. Professor I think I get a whole new understanding. Of the insured really appreciated -- -- thoroughly -- -- -- -- calling. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --