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02-07 10pm Scoot Show- Beatles 50 years

Feb 8, 2014|

Scoot talks about the 50th anniversary of the Beatles arrival in the United States; he also talks about the atmosphere of the U.S. at the time and how this complemented the arrival and success of the Beatles.

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Fifty years ago today The Beatles arrived in America and I believe that one is. The symbolic beginning of what would ultimately be known as the baby boomer anti establishment generation. We're talking about that tonight we're talking about our first memories the first being exposed to The Beatles and if you were not they are the time when you're younger. Do you think The Beatles were overrated or do you recognize their place in history -- terms of music and pop culture ago and fashion as well. This could like tonight is titled how The Beatles changed America forever. And stranding -- recited every WL dot com one of information in this particular -- it's longer than some of the blogs that are right because -- I wanted to really set the stage of what was going on in this country a few things that we're going on a few high profile things were going on in this country. Before The Beatles game. And then just three months before The Beatles arrived in America. The president of the United States. John F. Kennedy was assassinated. And I believe that in and I wish it was one of them as a a young kid. I believe that there was a young generation. Silently watching in the background. As their parents reacted to the assassination their parents being the establishment. And and and parents to talk to their kids acted like they do -- -- think to talk to kids about what they were thinking and what they were feeling. And we were all taking it and and I think that was with other things that we're going on I really think that was the tipping point. When a young generation. Subconsciously. Lost faith and trust. In the establishment. There was the constant threat of nuclear war the threat that it. That we could. The killed any day by nuclear weapons sit with the Cold War going on between the US and Russia. -- got very series and that was it was a definite part of life in in the early sixties. And so if if the establishment can't make you feel secure. The next can manifest itself is. Is causing insecurity. In the young generation. And the assassination of the president of the United States. I think that was the the moment when the mood was set. For something that could ignite. The attitude of this young generation. And this is something that is a witness of of that when I was young. And over the years of being in music radio talk radio and talking about social issues and political issues. The error there's a lot of turmoil in this country now. But there was a lot of turmoil in this country than to. And there was there was concern of revolt. There was concern about revolution in America and even more so than there is today. So this is really nothing -- and what I find really most interesting about all of us. Is bad anti establishment generation that. Young. Rebellious generation. That rejected the establishment. That generation today is the establishment. And we were so hung up on the image you have of being youthful. That would never really envisioned with this would be. I don't know about you but this is the best part of my life. And I hope it is for you as well. We'll continue to talk about the start here's a quick update RWB you'll pretty general opinion poll. Do you credit The Beatles with changing America. Or did they arrive when America was ready for change. 35% say they credit the deals with changing America. -- 65% say America was ready. To change. -- your opinion by going to our website WWL dot com beloved HR and a poll coming -- gained just a few minutes you can really have any aspect that the -- showed tonight by going two hour podcast. It's just like a DVR it would do would it be if you want to accomplish in any part of it is that you want. All lead formation as they -- podcast on top right hand corner of our front page. It's to be WL dot com. So let's go back to. The Beatles first appearing on television they arrive on this date February 7 and it was also Friday fifty years ago. In the United States in in New York. Two days later a Sunday night and it coincides with the fiftieth anniversary Sunday night February the ninth The Beatles first appeared. On American television 73. Million people were watching. Now I don't know what the population was that time. But 73 million. Is a much much bigger percentage of the population there and then it would be today. Now the Super Bowl was the most watched event in the history of American television this past Super Bowl. And it attracted just over. 111. Million people. But. Compared to the population today that's not nearly the percentage of 73 million. In 1964. So I just think it's interesting to re live this and I think there's a sense of security in office. There's a feeling that you know. My generation woods was talked about as a generation that was never gonna make it. You guys are gonna do anything. You guys have no drive your on drugs you're listening to -- -- look at your hair but at the closure where. And the clothes that we -- in the in this in the sixties they were outrageous. In the same way that some closer outrageous today. And it was a lot of sexuality expression close particularly that the girls wore. Miniskirts. Micro miniskirts. And -- And so if you listen to this crucial in a regular basis here on WWL. These are all things to come up on a regular basis. I -- I like to bring up the parallels with a pass because it exposes hypocrisy. About my generation. The baby boomer generation. Which is why I continued to refer to myself as a hostile witness to the baby boomer generation. But we made it through all of that. And we were not supposed to make it over the generation that popped out and dropped out. That's what the establishment thought of us in its really not that much different from with the establishment thinks of young people today. So I really don't see much difference. If you -- a joiner showed comment are numbers 2601870. Told 38668890. Which seventy at a -- him receipts have any seven. All right so here's the first song The Beatles played. Audience television show that night fifty years ago this week it ladies and gentlemen. -- I don't. Ozuna. And Gil and I I hear that -- I don't know whether you noticed this or not but something that I noticed too over the years. How how unique The Beatles appeared on stage. And it's because Paul McCartney was left hand. And he's based -- the other way. Instead of -- that the the next of the guitars all facing the same way Paul's face the other way. And that always created a unique visual. That most fans didn't half. The Beatles did move around much on stage. And that really became obvious to me when -- I saw. One of the one of the tribute to The Beatles appeared to -- theater. Last year. I really enjoyed it. But one of the things that I realizes that the Eagles didn't dance. They were moving around very much at a lot of respect while Mick Jagger was in on the -- Chris all over the stage. He was like -- Motown performer on stage. -- didn't really move around very much horse that was kind of unique did the visual The Beatles because Paul McCartney's guitar is his base faced in the other direction because it was left handed. Here is that -- The Beatles did two sets actually I thought they played for -- actually played five Sox. So the first it was all my life and in the first set this was the second song they played on the installation. -- I don't know who's -- But I'm now. -- being cool no mine never yeah. -- -- -- -- Then well. And I know. Indianapolis. I was okay. I mention this earlier in the show my dad who was good drummer -- a big band when he was 1920 years old growing up in New Orleans and he was also a singer in the -- in my -- and always played -- over the years not for money but just as a as a hobby is -- to -- He'd be just always was interested in tuned to music his music. -- -- The big band -- and Frank Sinatra and and and the rat pack it and while I respect Glen Miller and those are big fans of Benny Goodman and all that stuff in the rat pack while I respect that today. I think my dad really believe that The Beatles and in all of this British invasion stuff was passing -- And that it was just gonna go away and I would like his music. Instead of that while I love the music that I grew up with I love the music that's out today but I also. Also appreciate the music but my dad was wrong this was not just a passing fan but that was it till there was you that was the once on my debt -- did did not like The Beatles and he. He says these guys they can't play you look at that hair look at the way they dress. That's not music they're only play -- -- course they can't really sink. -- -- mostly critical of -- but that was the one song that he he's up but you know what I like that once so I like that so until they wish you. Oregon the first said this is how The Beatles closed out. The first set. Of that first appearance of the it's -- fifty years ago this week it. Let's go to Wrigley this song and then we come back on the other side of the great. We'll take a break you like to be a student and then we'll play the of the two songs of the Eagles blades and -- -- fifty years ago this weekend. This is the -- On -- WL. Okay -- -- so Beatles came after the first play this was the second set this was the fourth solidly played him nine plays killers. Fast. And and I know there are a lot of the younger people who think oh my god I thought Tiffany did that song first don't wish specialty of the Eagles saw. And here was the final song in the second sets on that first nights under his children show The Beatles fifty years ago this week -- Glad. I. The Beatles hook. The Beatles took a lot of soul. From R&D. In America. And they got that music because they they they lived in Liverpool. And they got music from the longshoreman ended the ships that would arrive at Liverpool. They they got music from America. From the arrival of -- ships in and Mariners in Liverpool. And they listen to that music and they they change some of it but they got so much of their influence. From our music and -- they took our music and gave it back to us in a slightly different form. And The Beatles penetrated into into Black America. And what The Beatles did with some of this R&B music introduced a lot of young white Americans. To an -- be sound that they may not have been listening to before. So there's really have a lot of interesting things that were ever going -- scoop like tonight is titled how The Beatles changed America forever. It's -- -- -- -- to be a regular coming also I'll get to some of your comments. On FaceBook page -- having a discussion about that on FaceBook -- -- to be WL radio. And I've I really went through some things that I thought were significant in terms of stuff going on in this country prior to The Beatles. Arriving in in February 50 years ago 1964. And the main event was the assassination of president can be three months before that I think that that that the country was going through changes in my opinion The Beatles didn't change America. But they became a reflection. Of -- changing America. If you wanna join Russia -- night with a comment on numbers 260170. -- 38668890. -- seventy. And -- oversees 77. So here's a texted says how much do you think rock music has done to promote the drug culture. Which has been a disaster. In the studying that I've done. About media. Mass media. And the relationship between media and society. It's my views that the media reflects. Society. It reflects its audience. Is like a mirror image out of the audience. In the case of of music. In the case of of music that includes lyrics about drugs today. Or music in the past I mean that the -- of the song Lucy in the sky with diamonds. If I -- but it was let's go to the next break with the Lucy in the sky with diamonds in yet Elton John did this later but The Beatles did the original. And The Beatles were thought to seriously be in a drug I never saw any of them do drugs so I don't know but they were believed to have been and LSD and all kinds of stuff and that went to the creativity of things like the magical mystery tour and I don't know if anybody's ever figured out the concept of the white album but -- they've they've really got into some strange stuff. So The Beatles should reflect that that culture. There was a lot of sexuality music as well as part of the British invasion I mean let's remember The Beatles were the first. As Americans we we tend to remember now the Americans but just as human beings. We tend to remember something that was first. In any category. And we rarely remember something that was second or third even though. The second third and fourth date those were still great accomplishments. And I think a great example of this is. Americans know the first man who landed on the moon. Neil Armstrong. But it was the second me -- who walked on the moon. Neil Armstrong was the first but -- was ago by the came down the latter right after him. And Taylor saw it was the first but this guy was the second on the same trip came down right after -- harsh on and people don't remember. Thus altering that you might remember some people might remember but for the most part people don't remember the second part we don't remember the second and third in categories. You know and it a few years will remember more who won the Super Bowl I have to think -- wait coded to who'd they'd lose to. You know -- real sports fanatic and I think the same is true when it comes to presidential elections. Okay -- you Ronald ray gets he broke he brought Rick was reelected. In 1984 who did he run against who who did Ronald Regan beat. So we we tend to remember the winners we can remember number one in and and not number two so The Beatles were number warned. But they were number one in what was an instant and very long parade of bands. They were part of this British invasion. And The Beatles were the good guys that nice boys the pretty boys. And then there was a Rolling Stones. And they were the the darker Ross side of that music at the time it was Eric bird in the animals. And they were there that the dark side they would have the considered the bad boys. And -- -- singing house of the rising sun. The animals -- you know their and it's about prostitutes in Indian indoor courts. You know that was very adult oriented for the time. So again in the context of the time that all of this came out. Fifty years ago the establishment then. One is. Afraid. Of what The Beatles and the British invasion. Were doing to America. But I don't think they were doing it to America I think they were reflecting a mood in America that we since they year. As a going back to this text how much too I think they did did rock music has advanced to drug culture. I think it's more reflected the drug culture. Music doesn't make you do drugs. But if you do drugs it reflects the drugs that you do. Music. And entertainment in general. Reflect its audience. Now doesn't mean that. The music and and people don't get ideas. But music and movies and television entertainment can't make you do something you don't wanna do. If your pre disposed to do something. You might select certain music that fits your mode but them the the music doesn't create bad mood deep down inside if you know I've I've always used the comparison of a love song doesn't make you fall in love -- later if we if we. Played nothing but love songs on the radio B 97. Magic. One of 19 and now by united -- at it it if our stations. The intercom failing here in new worlds if if they played love song after a loss like this academic people fall -- -- Only the people who are in love. Would like it the people who -- Glover did wanna be -- -- couldn't stand. Love music doesn't make you fallen off but if you're in love it's that it's the music that you would choose to picture mood. So The Beatles and the music of the British invasion in the sixties. It reflected. The mood of the country. And you know as I -- I said earlier it's. It's so easy to. To judge things like well it's a lot different today. We -- is different today. But relative to the time it's. The the fear that the establishment then head of of the influence of music. And drugs is no different. And the fear that exist in society today. And interest including. The establishment today. Is that. Anti establishment generation from the sixties. If you were to join our show with a comment on numbers 260187. -- 3866889. Is nearly seventy. Takes a -- 77 here's a -- -- what surprised me was all the screaming girls on Solomon the next day I gave up on real cream. Down went my hair. Say that was you know I remember coming to the state can still remember the smell broke. Pretty slick hair back. And The Beatles came -- and there was so that was a rather add the serial. -- With reporters at press conferences when The Beatles first drive in America. And I think one reporter asked. And I asked him I believe Georgia answered or are you guys and now victory in America are you gonna -- your hair. Again changing your picture here. In all series are set now and are going to. And another reporter. Asked The Beatles at the the press conference I'm. What do you consider to be the greatest danger to your careers nuclear bombs or dandruff. And -- answer and he said bombs we've already got dandruff. And and another reporter asked how many how many your ball. That you have to -- -- And Paul said I'm ball I am I'm -- and Johnson overall ball yeah and deaf and dumb to. But it got to the point after they arrived and when The Beatles started to get into. Making more social statements. I there was a fear of what they meant there was a fear that they would cause revolution in this country. -- to the point where. The FBI director. FBI director. Were consistently concerned about the impact. The Beatles and that music was having -- America how is that any different than what's going on today. And this is what I just find so interesting about my generation the baby boomer generation today. Do you not look and see so many similarities today with what happened in the past. And it ended it the blog it's on our website. And on FaceBook page. I went through an interest talked about some of the debates that we were having in this country. Some of the debates that I think kind of set the tone for the mood of America and this this is some basic. So ice big change that was going on in this country. I -- under current of of of a change in a fight for personal freedom and equality. It was it was happening right before The Beatles. And one of the things was something that I find very similar to. To some of the debates that we have today. And I constantly bring this up on the on the scripture. It was there was a debate in the in the early sixties about birth control. Today it referred to is the religious right. But back then it was called the moral majority. And there were battles that pitted the moral majority against activists. Many of them young activists fighting for more personal freedom and equality. As the sixties began America's moral majority condemned the use of birth control pills. On the basis that if you take away the consequences of pregnancy. If you take that away from casual sex but that's gonna cause sexual promiscuity to escalate. In 1961 there was it but I -- the battleground was in the state of Connecticut. Where artificial birth control. Was a crime. Taking the -- selling the -- was a crime. Selling cocaine. So there was this attempt to control. Moral behavior. And I just again if I find that very parallel with some of the debates that we have today. -- -- 1963. They were 2.3 million American women on the hill. And again compared to the population at the time that was a much bigger percentage that 2.3 million people would be today. -- case up from Connecticut finally went to the US Supreme Court. And the court ultimately ruled that banning birth control pills was unconstitutional. Based on right to privacy. So here you had an argument about about sex. You had an argument about morals. And you had the Supreme Court stepping in and say well you may not like it but this is. This is part of freedom in America. And I I seed debates today that remind us event of activate. Back then. Now. In 1962. In 1963 there were two more landmark decisions by the Supreme Court. That caused a lot of people to go all of my god what's happening to America. In 6263. The two landmark decisions involved the banning of a school led prayers in public schools. And as you know that decision today is viewed by many years. Being the moment in time when the social and moral demise of America really began. It was so much else going on the time the -- blowing -- on that one thing is so convenient. And an issue no. Americans. Like to define things in very simplistic convenient turns Ellis country starting go to hell when they took prayer republics -- really. And everything else that was going on in this country that time. And as we've talked about this on our show win this comes up as a debate today. There were. There were these feelings that -- if we say a prayer in school do you really think that saying a prayer in school. Would stop. The violence today is that all it takes. If you were only that easy. If it's not supported in the hole. It's not gonna do any good. I'm just saying a prayer led by the and then today you get to the question of will. What prayer. Is left what -- said what what prairies the government going to tell markets. And so over the years we have come to respect the constitution. To the point where it's OK. Well we do this prayer then. As far as constitution's concern that we have to do this -- so maybe it's best if we don't do any prayer and that doesn't take prayer away from you. That doesn't take anything away from your faith or your belief in -- But again this was in 62 -- 63 these were big decisions that we're starting to indicate turmoil in America. So the legalization of artificial birth control the banning of school -- prayers to significant controversy -- Decisions that signaled a of the threshold to change in America that that was the fight for equal rights for black Americans. The Civil Rights Act was passed in in 1964. But before that would lead up to that was a battle in the streets. And it was very vicious here in the deep south. Battle for equality. You know there had been so many movies recently. Told here's a slave. To Butler. -- there are other movies that I'd. -- jango. Angle and change. Their movies that are overly focused on the missed treatment of blacks. And while I think that's important. I'm wondering why it isn't marketable. Two. To do movies about. How whites. Contributed to. The civil rights movement. I think that's something that reflects a very positive thing very positive reality that happened to this country. And yet it's. It's not part of the movies we see. Meant to be that would that would be. Significant. And instead of showing what divides us it would show what brings us together. Blacks did not make up enough of this country. At the time to. To. Manifest that kind of change in America it took it took so many it took it took much of white America. To say look these are injustices in -- got to change. And yet that's not reflected that's not reflected in it in what we see. And then we you and all of this that the social and legal debate to -- all of this. To the ever present threat of nuclear war. In the early sixties. The battle with the Soviet Union arguments for the Soviet Union that the the Cuban missile crisis. I guess it was in the fall of nineteen via a nine fall of 19 October 1962. For fourteen days the US blockaded Cuba because the Russians. Had put nuclear missiles into. And president Kennedy said no you can do that. And we were on the brink of war affect it got to a quote here from I've Khrushchev the signifying that. I -- it is. Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev sent a letter to president Kennedy -- about sick about Vladimir Putin's. Doing this with with President Obama. He puts nuclear weapons potent an -- I think it's fair to relate things today. To what happened in the past. -- which nuclear weapons in Cuba faced at the United States -- point to the United States. He sends a letter to President Obama stating that the US blockade if -- so that Obama orders a blockade of Cuba. So again we've got warships around Cuba. And Nikita Khrushchev the leader of the Soviet union of time. Said that this aggressive active. The blockade -- Cuba could propel humankind. Into the abyss of a world nuclear missile war. The nuclear war that everybody feared. The Russians ultimately. Did back down. And we agreed to remove our missiles from Turkey and Italy which -- pointed at. Moscow. These for the times that we lived it and then on top of all of this. It was the assassination of president Kennedy. In 1963 November. And three months later The Beatles arrived. As I look at all of this I -- I just think that there was I think there was just such an undercurrent of distrust. For the establishment. That. A young generation ways. Which Swedish for some things that would reflect their move. And The Beatles were sold and -- -- that's that is close so counterculture. That day is British invasion movies. Fit perfectly. If you enjoyed our shortcoming tonight our numbers 2601870. Told 38668890. -- seventy. Tech's numbers except except this is the -- Joseph envoy -- just on its. Very much about drugs and we could meet anybody do drugs. The people who were doing drugs certainly got a -- more than I did because I was a little dirty dieted. Didn't trucks. We'll be right back with more. It's Friday nights on this -- -- on David W well. Fifty years ago Saturday The Beatles arrived in America did The Beatles change America or did The Beatles arrived at a time when America especially young America was. 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Anywhere every day for lucky listeners nationwide -- thousand dollars each good luck the station that. -- to put money in your pocket and remember those times to listen right before the top of the or news acts. 8 AM. Noon 3 PM and 6 PM it's all right here under WL. Yeah this is son this is really. Hard to believe but it one point. The Beatles. Held the top five spots. On the billboard. Top 100 chart. They were number one they were number 1234. Fight now I don't have this economy submissive I can remember. I believe in winners. Can't buy me love. Love me do. I wanna hold your hand. She loves you. And all my life. 1234. I think -- with a five so. If I'm wrong and you wanna send me text or call a show that pleased you are just did that live on the year but I think those with -- and because of the top five solid but -- it did and having to music radio for so long. I was always in always focused on the the the top songs in the country it always amazed me that at one point The Beatles. Held the top five songs. On the charts and nobody is ever come close to doing that before. Do you remember what your parents. First told you but The Beatles you remember what their impression of the Eagles was an in my have been positive united -- -- love The Beatles. You know my mom didn't say that was she didn't get it but my dad was was vocal and he just the didn't like The Beatles at all. If you remember that at first impression that your parents and of the deals. On and and you were young at the time I'd I'd want to hear what they had to -- if you gonna join our show tonight our numbers 2601. A seventy. Toll free 866889. Is nearly seventy. A takes a receipts MBAs -- politics here Walter Mondale lost to Reagan yeah like I did I do that it was Walter Mondale and in 1984 however. I was just thinking appointed. That that many people don't remember who who lost to went a little time passes we remembered the first in every category. It would not even paying attention to the second or third. And The Beatles were the first. Of the British invasion and so they still to this day get most of the attention and as it turned out you know my I mean I loved my -- But and my dad was my hero but as it turned out he was wrong about this because The Beatles were not just at a passing fanned. And that's why I find so much. Security and comfort and satisfaction in. The fact that the the pro -- The Rolling Stones and and Paul McCartney Ringo. Still performing today. And and coming together and performing and the grammys. And I'd like to think that if all for The Beatles were still alive that's it that we would have had to -- a reunion. I'll never forget I was going to work. 1 morning -- work for music station here in New Orleans. And I was going to work 1 morning. And I -- bitterly that night so I didn't hear the news at night that John Lennon had been killed. In alone on the street in the darkened downtown New Orleans I've bought the newspaper like I did every morning. And are on the front page of John Lennon was killed. And what are the feelings that I got there had been a lot of talk about The Beatles possibly getting back together. Before that time. And I I thought that this this was the one thing that would. Absolutely prevent. The Beatles reunion. It was certainly a a tragic moment. You know over the years jagr -- -- -- these songs ready that we have -- owner ready. By the neck. This was it. I guess mid career minor -- career it's still early in my career. One of the most eat testicle bands to come out. At that time was the band called the net and Dixon was my -- Their management you know I was able to interview a lot of dancing at the time but -- the that did the neck would not do an interview. No they were -- there was actually belief. On their part and they're managements part that the neck. Was going to be the next Beatles. They gave us much of -- I mean kind of hard to believe today it. These guys thought they were going to be the next Beatles. I don't remember any other hit that they asked. That this was a -- song but the next Beatles where do you guys get the ego. If you and -- and I showed an item numbers 2601. A seventy -- free 866889. Is nearly seventy. Tech's numbers -- 7870. This is the -- show on Friday nights like from New Orleans on WL. It's a Friday night we -- heading into the weekend together on this cute show and if we can't under Friday night I like to talk about to have the fun stuff in pop culture stuff is so fun to talk about. So we're talking about The Beatles today is the fiftieth anniversary of The Beatles first arriving. In America. Is an update on our WWL pretty general opinion poll do you credit The Beatles with changing America order they arrived and America was ready to change. They changed America. 29%. 71% say they arrived at a time when America's ready for a change. Here's a text that read -- Manuel art trip I was in the seventh grade typing class in San Jose California when JFK was killed. We had pot. Dealing airplane against meaning Jefferson Airplane Dave Clark five men have been The Beatles. They were cool. But no they didn't change the US. I don't know about Louisiana but we dug at all. Not just then the chicks freaked out. But we were our own selves. I agree with that. You know in. In San Jose Jefferson Airplane were from Sampras Cisco. So they may have been out at the time but for America The Beatles were clearly first Dave Clark five. At one time were competing with The Beatles forward never -- songwriter Dave -- five song Louis and handle for an at agreed to a ballad called cause. On The Rolling Stones of the but The Beatles were clearly first the airplane came around a little bit later -- of most of America's concerned if you're gonna join our -- -- with commentary any memories that you have for The Beatles. Our numbers 2601870. Toll free 8668890. Point 78. And a text number is 8787. From every Paula you're on -- BW -- -- -- -- -- -- -- It culture change because that's what -- the track and it. Then it would. Blow -- -- -- Music aging. Because the the group group -- and -- game music changed the rule and -- nebulous. Before the deals there was some of them are Ross was stayed there was a lot of for the most ever -- And that was that there was also that the beach sports. Right to -- Portland because you know and some job but when beat has -- me. You -- again in the city stadium. Well I you know I wasn't there I'd I'd I didn't colonize them I don't know why my parents didn't take you know I don't know I just they're like I was not that. Cool of a kid I guess to even have wanted to go it is that was not even on my radar at that time but looking back on and I wish it would have been here. -- god they've brought which was low. On. School. -- third -- Right. Though it was principal go to. -- at least it because. 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And it well it was sent me the information and I don't wanna get into a debate about that whether they've been -- stand apart -- Is it is important were they were they were totally disregarded they were totally disrespect it there's no doubt about that one thing that we see today is. People disagree with a war but it's still support the troops and that's the way it should have been but that's the great lesson that America learn from the -- Vietnam vets for treatment you know because it wasn't there all and many of them went. Because they were -- You'll. Go to. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Am a big difference -- I enjoy our conversation specialist thing and you know once again thanks to all of you who were part of the Vietnam War. It wasn't so it was it your fault that the war turned out the way that it did it wasn't at it again. This was just -- an interest in political time and again this. The Vietnam War was -- linked to the threat of a nuclear war between the United States in Russia. Because. The Russians were supporting the north Vietnamese. And hoping to spread communism to south Vietnam. And in our effort because of our fear of the spread of communism we were even concerned in this country that communism would reach the -- grant. Know there was a time in this country went. When illegal immigrants coming across the Rio Grande was the best thing that could happen. We were concerned that Communist would be crossing over our border and taking over the United States that was a true fear that. So win the north Vietnamese. Had the backing of the Russians in the south Vietnamese of the vacuum the United States. There was this tentative nature. About that conflict. That if there was an escalation. If we put too much into it. That it might ignites. World war three. So all. That was a trophy here again there was. There were so many things again and it did I think parallel today's generation and in the debates today today's young generation -- establishment. And we the establishment word that baby boomer generation back then and yes of course things are different today. But in the spirit of things that the spirit of the the rebellion. And the concern for the influence of of The Beatles and that kind of music on a young generation. That is totally. Relative to. -- we're going through today. When we come back guy wanted to we did this a little bit earlier but I -- a replay part of the song called eve of destruction and it really does reflect the mood of this country. And it was already it was one of the big so eve of the start it was all about how. -- -- -- There's going to be a nuclear war were dead. And also we're gonna try finest theme song from the of the movie wild in the streets which was about a -- musician who became president. And instantly put everybody over thirty in concentration camps that was the attitude. Of their generation.