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02-7 10pm Scoot Show, Fifty Years of the Beatles

Feb 11, 2014|

Scoot continues the celebration of the fab four to the United States by playing clips of songs from their first appearance on the Ed Sullivan Show, along with segments of songs that the Beatles recorded over the years. Scoot talks about the Kennedy assasination the the Vietnam war and how this set the stage for the Beatles Brittish invasion of the United States.

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Fifty years ago today The Beatles arrived in America and I believe that one is. The symbolic beginning of what would ultimately be known as the baby boomer anti establishment generation. We're talking about that tonight we're talking about our first memories of first being exposed to The Beatles and if you were not they are the time when you're younger. Do you think The Beatles were overrated or do you recognize their place in history its terms of music and pop culture ago and fashion as well. This could block tonight is titled how The Beatles changed America forever. And stranding on our website at WW real dot com -- of information in this particular -- it's longer than some of the blogs are right because -- I wanted to release set the stage of what was going on in this country a few things that we're going on a few high profile things were going on in this country. Before The Beatles game. And then just three months before The Beatles arrived in America. The president of the United States. John F. Kennedy was assassinated. And I believe that in and I wish it was one of them as a young kid. I believe that there was a young generation. Silently watching in the background. As their parents reacted to the assassination their parents being the establishment. And and and parents to talk to their kids acted like they do today -- -- to talk to kids about what they were thinking and what they were feeling. And we were all taking it and and I think that was with other things that we're going on I really think that was the tipping point. When a young generation. Subconsciously. Lost faith and trust. In the establishment. There was the constant threat of nuclear war the threat that it. That we could. The killed any day by nuclear weapons sit with the Cold War going on between the US and Russia. And he got very series and that was it was a definite part of life in in the early sixties. And so if if the establishment can't make you feel secure. The next can manifest itself is. Is causing insecurity. In the young generation. And the assassination of the president of the United States. I think that was the the moment when the mood was set. For something that could ignite. The attitude of this young generation. And this is something that is a witness of of that when I was young. And over the years of being -- music radio talk radio and talking about social issues and political issues. The error there's a lot of turmoil in this country now. But there was a lot of turmoil in this country than to. And there was there was concern of revolt. There was concern about revolution in America and even more so than there is today. So this is really nothing new and what I find really most interesting about all of us. Is that anti establishment generation that. Young. Rebellious generation. That rejected the establishment. That generation today is the establishment. And we were so hung up on the image you have of being youthful. That would never really envisioned with this would be. I don't know about you but this is the best part of my life. And I hope it is for use well. We'll continue to talk about the start here's a quick update our WB you'll pretty general opinion poll. Do you credit The Beatles with changing America. Or did they arrive when America was ready for change. 35% say they credit the deals with changing America. As 65% say America was ready. To change. Give your opinion by going to our web site WWL dot com beloved teacher and a poll coming up -- just a few minutes you can really have any aspect that the -- showed tonight by going to our podcast. It's just like a DVR that would do would be if you don't dot com -- part of it is that you want. All the information is there a podcast on top right hand corner of our front page. It's a VW well on top. So let's go back to. The Beatles first appearing on television they arrived on this date February 7 and it was also Friday fifty years ago. In the United States in in New York. Two days later a Sunday night and it coincides with the fiftieth anniversary Sunday night February the ninth The Beatles first appeared. On American television 73. Million people were watching. Now I don't know what the population was at the time. But 73 million. Is not much much bigger percentage of the population -- and then it would be today. Now the Super Bowl was the most watched event in the history of American television this past Super Bowl. And it attracted just over. 111. Million people. But. Compared to the population today that's not nearly the percentage of 73 million. In 1964. So I just think it's interesting to re live this and I think there's a sense of security in office. There's a feeling that you know. My generation voice which talked about as a generation that was never gonna make it. You guys are gonna do anything right you guys have no dry here in drugs you're listening to -- -- look at your hair but at the closure where. And the clothes that we -- in the in this in the sixties they were outrageous. In the same way that some -- -- outrageous today. And it was a lot of sexuality expression close particularly that the girls wore. Miniskirts. Micro mini skirts. And cockpit. And so if you listen to this crucial -- a regular basis here on WWL. These are all things to come up on a regular basis. -- like -- like to bring up the parallels with the pass because it exposes hypocrisy. About my generation. The baby boomer generation. Which is why I continued to refer to myself as a hostile witness to the baby boomer generation. But we made it through all of that. And we were not supposed to make it over the generation that popped out and dropped out. That's what the establishment thought of us -- it's really not that much different from with the establishment thinks of young people today. So I really don't see much difference. If you wanna join our -- the -- are numbers 2601870. Told 38668890. -- -- and tax receipts have recently. All right so here's the first song The Beatles played. Audience television show that night fifty years ago this week it ladies and gentlemen. -- don't. -- And Gil and I I hear that an I don't know whether you noticed this or not but something that I noticed too over the years. How how unique The Beatles appeared on stage. And it's because Paul McCartney was left hand. And is based point of the other way. Instead of it that the the next of the guitars all facing the same way Paul's face the other way. And that always created a unique visual. That most fans didn't half. The Beatles did move around much on stage. And that really became obvious to me when writes I saw. One of the one of the tributes to The Beatles appeared to -- theater. Last year. I really enjoyed it. But one of the things that I realizes the in The Beatles they didn't dance. They were moving around very much at a lot of respect while Mick Jagger weighs in on the -- Chris all over the stage. He was like on Motown performer on stage. -- didn't really move around very much horse that was kind of unique -- did the visual The Beatles because Paul McCartney's guitar is his base faced in the other direction because it was left into. Here is that -- The Beatles did two sets actually I thought they played four -- actually played five sorry X. So the first it was all my love and in the first set this was the second song they played on the installation. Do the votes. My. But I'm now. You being cool no -- never yeah. -- -- -- Yeah well. And I know. Indianapolis. I was okay. I mention this earlier in the show my dad who was good drummer -- a big band when he was 1920 years old growing up in New Orleans and he was also a singer and abandon my dad always played drums over the years not for money but justice as a hobby is funny and he. He'd be just always was interested in -- to music his music. -- -- The big band sound and and Frank Sinatra and and and the rat pack it and while I respect to Glen Miller and those are big fans have been he Goodman and all its stuff in the rat pack while I respect that today. I think my dad really believe that The Beatles and in all of this British invasion stuff was passing fad. And that it was just gonna go away and I would like his music. Instead of that while I love the music that I grew up with I love the music that's out today but I also. Also appreciate the music but in my day it was wrong this was not just a passing fan but that was it till there was you that was the once on my debt by -- did not like The Beatles and he. He says these guys they can't play you look at that hair look at the way they dress. That's not music they're only play its records they can't really -- My debt mostly critical of -- but that was the one song that he he's up but you know what I like that once so I like that so until they wish you. Oregon the first said this is how The Beatles closed out. The first cents. Of that first appearance of the -- -- fifty years ago this week it. Let's go to -- this song and then we come back on the other side of the great. We'll take a break you like to be Palestinian and it will play the of the Tucson steel blades and it's Sullivan fifty years ago this weekend. This is the -- Honda VW well. Okay that's all right so this came after the first place this was the second set this was the force on inflated nightly television. Fast. And and I know there are a lot of the younger people who think oh my god I thought Tiffany did that song first don't -- specialty of Beatles -- And here was the final song in the second sets on that first nights under his children show The -- fifty years ago this weekend. I. The Beatles hook. The Beatles took a lot of soul. From warranty. In America. And they got that music because they they they lived in Liverpool. And they got music from the longshoreman ended the ships that would arrive in Liverpool. They they got music from America. From the arrival of -- ships in and mariners in Liverpool. And they listen to that music and they they change some of it but they got so much of their influence. From our music in America they took our music and gave it back to us in a slightly different form. And The Beatles penetrated into into Black America. And what The Beatles did with some of this R&B music introduced a lot of young white Americans. To an -- be sound that they may not have been listening to before. So there's really a lot of interesting things that were ever going -- scoop like tonight is titled how The Beatles changed America forever. It's on our website at WW dot com and also I'll get to some of your comments. On our FaceBook page -- are having a discussion about that on FaceBook which uses -- to be WL radio. And I've I really went through some things that I thought were significant in terms of stuff going on in this country prior to The Beatles. Arriving in in February 50 years ago 1964. And the main event was the assassination of president can be three months before but I think the that that the country was going through changes in my opinion The Beatles didn't change America. But they became a reflection. Of the changing America. If you wanna join our show tonight with a comment on numbers 260187. Toll free 8668890. It's evident. And -- -- -- 77 so here's a text that says how much do you think rock music has done to promote the drug culture. Which has been a disaster. In the studying that I've done. About media. Mass media. And the relationship between media and society. It's my views that the media reflects. Society. It reflects its audience. Is like a mirror image out of the audience. In the case of -- music. In the case of of music that includes lyrics about drugs today. Or music in the past I mean that the -- about the song Lucy in the sky with diamonds. If I -- -- -- was let's go to the next break with Lucy in the sky with diamonds in yet Elton John did this later but The Beatles did the original. And The Beatles were thought to seriously be in -- -- I never saw any of them do drugs so I don't know but they were believed to have been and LSD and all kinds of stuff -- went to the creativity of postings like the magical mystery tour and I don't know if anybody's ever figured out the concept of the white album but -- they've they've really got into some strange stuff. So The Beatles should reflect that that culture. There was a lot of sexuality music as well as part of the British invasion I mean let's remember The Beatles were the first. As Americans we we tend to remember now -- Americans but just as human beings. We tend to remember something that was first. In any category. And we rarely remember something that was second or third even though. The second third and fourth date those were still great accomplishments. And I think a great example of this is -- Americans know the first man who landed on the moon. Neil Armstrong. But it was the second -- -- who walked on the moon. Neil Armstrong was the first but -- was ago by the came down the latter right after him. And -- saw it was the first but this guy was the second on the same trip came down right after -- -- and people don't remember. Buzz -- you might remember some people might remember but for the most part people to remember the second part we don't remember the second and third in categories. You know and -- a few years will remember more who won the Super Bowl -- have to think well wait coded to who'd they'd lose to. You know -- real sports fanatic and having the same is true when it comes to presidential elections. Including Ronald Reagan as he broke he brought -- was reelected. In 1984 who did he run against who who did Ronald Regan beat. So we we tend to remember the winners we can remember number one in and and not number two so The Beatles were never warned. But they were number one in what was an instant and very long parade of bands. They were part of this British invasion. And The Beatles were the good guys the nice boys the pretty boys. And then there was a Rolling Stones. And they were the the darker Ross side of that music at the time it was Eric -- the animals. And they were there that the dark side they would have the considered the bad boys. And Eric -- singing house of the rising sun. The animals -- you know their and it's about prostitutes in India into warlords. You know that was very adult oriented for the time. So again in the context of the time that all of this came out. Fifty years ago the establishment then. One is. Afraid. Of what The Beatles and the British invasion. We're doing to America. But I don't think they were doing it to America I think they were reflecting a mood in America that we since they year. As a going back to this text how much too I think that it did rock music has advanced the drug culture. I think it's more reflected the drug culture. Music doesn't make you do drugs. But if you do drugs it reflects the drugs that you do. Music. And entertainment in general. Reflect its audience. Now doesn't mean that. The music and and people don't get ideas. But music in movies and television entertainment can't make you do something you don't wanna do. If your pre disposed to do something. You might select certain music that fits your mode but them the the music doesn't create bad mood deep down inside of you know I've I've always use the comparison of a love song doesn't make you fall in love I later if we if we. I played nothing but love songs on the radio B 97. Magic. 119 and now by united fuss at it it if our stations. The intercom failing here in new worlds if if they played love song -- the -- so that's academic people fall -- -- Only the people who are in line -- would like it the people who boarded -- did wanna be in love. Couldn't stand. Love music doesn't make you fall in but if you're in love it's that it's the music that you would choose to picture -- So The Beatles and the music of the British invasion in the sixties. It reflected. The mood of the country. And you know as -- I said earlier it's. It's so easy to. To judge things like well it's a lot different today. We -- is different today. But relative to the time it's. The the fear that the establishment then head of of the influence of music. And drugs is no different. And the fear that exist in society today. And interest including. The establishment today. Is that. Anti establishment generation from the sixties. If you were to join our show with a comment on numbers 260187. Toll free 866889. Is nearly seventy. It's Amber's -- 77 here's a Texan -- what surprised me was all the screaming girls on Solomon the next day I gave up on real cream. And down -- my hair. Say that was you know and I remember coming to the state can still remember this -- broke. -- slick hair back. And The Beatles came -- and there was so that was a rather add the serial. -- With reporters at press conferences when The Beatles first drive in America. And I think one reporter asked. And I asked him I believe Georgia answered are you guys and now -- -- in America are you gonna click your hair. Again changing your picture here. And ulcers are said no and I -- to. And another reporter. Asked The Beatles at the the press conference I'm. What do you consider to be the greatest danger to your careers nuclear bombs or dandruff. And -- answer and he said bombs we've already got dandruff. And and another reporter asked how many how many your ball. That you have to Wear wigs. And Paul says I'm ball I am I'm -- and Johnson overall ball yeah and deaf and dumb to. But it got to the point after they arrived and when The Beatles started to get into. Making more social statements. I there was a fear of what they meant there was a fear that they would cause revolution in this country. -- to the point where. The FBI director. FBI director. Were consistently concerned about the impact. The Beatles and that music was having on America how is that any different than what's going on today. And this is what I just find so interesting about my generation the baby boomer generation today. Do you not look and see so many similarities today with what happened in the past. And it included the blog it's on our web site. And on our FaceBook page. -- -- and and just talked about some of the debates that we were having in this country. Some of the debates that I think kind of set the tone for the mood of America and this this is some basic. So ice big change that was going on in this country. An undercurrent of of of of change in a fight for personal freedom and equality. It was it was happening right before The Beatles. And one of the things was something that I find very similar to. To some of the debates that we have today. And I constantly bring this up on the on the scripture. It was there was a debate in the in the early sixties about birth control. Today it referred to as the religious rights. But back then it was called the moral majority. And there were battles that pitted the moral majority against activists. Many of them young activists fighting for more personal freedom and equality. As the sixty's began America's moral majority condemned the use of birth control pills. On the basis that if you take away the consequences of pregnancy. If you take that away from casual sex and that's gonna cause sexual promiscuity to escalate. In 1961 there was it but I -- the battleground was in the state of Connecticut. Where artificial birth control. Was a crime. Taking the pill selling the pill was a crime. Selling cocaine. So there was this attempt to control. Moral behavior. And I just again if I find that very parallel with some of the debates that we have today. And by 1963. They were 2.3 million American women on the -- And again compared to the population at the time that was a much bigger percentage that 2.3 million people would be today. This case up from Connecticut finally went to the US Supreme Court. And the court ultimately ruled that banning birth control pills was unconstitutional. Based on right to privacy. So here you had an argument about about sex. You had an argument about morals. And you had the Supreme Court stepped in and say well you may not like it but this is. This is part of freedom in America. And I I see debates today that remind us event of activate. Back then. Now. In 1962. In 1963 there were two more landmark decisions by the Supreme Court. That caused a lot of people to go all of my god what's happening to America. In 6263. To two landmark decision involved the banning of a school led prayers in public schools. And as you know that decision today is viewed by many years. Being the moment in time when the social and moral demise of America really began. It was so much else going on the time to to blame it on that one thing is so convenient. And an issue no. Americans. Like to define things in very simplistic convenient turns -- country start to go to hell when they took prayer republics -- really. About everything else that was going on in this country that time. And as we've talked about this on our show when this comes up as the debate today. There were. There were these feelings that -- if we say a prayer in school do you really think that saying a prayer in school. Would stop. The violence today is that all it takes. If you were only that easy. If it's not supported in the whole. -- do any good. -- just saying a prayer led by the and then today you get to the question of will. What prayer. Is -- what prairie said what what prairies the government gonna tell markets. And so over the years we have come to respect the constitution. To the point where it's okay. Well we do this prayer then. As far as constitution's concern that we have to do this prayer so maybe it's best if we don't do any prayer and that doesn't take prayer away from you. That doesn't take anything away from your faith or your belief in god. But again this was in 62 -- 63 these were big decisions that we're starting to indicate turmoil in America. So the legalization of artificial birth control the banning of school led prayers to significant controversy you'll. Decisions that signaled a the threshold of change in America that that was the fight for equal rights for black Americans. The Civil Rights Act was passed in in 1964. But before that would lead up to that -- a battle in the streets. And it was very vicious here in the deep south. Battle for equality. You know there had been so many movies recently. Told here's a slave. The Butler. -- there are other movies that -- Jango. Angle and change. Their movies that are overly focused on the mistreatment of blacks. And while I think that's important. I'm wondering why it is in marketable. Two. To do movies about. How whites. Contributed to. The civil rights movement. I think that's something that reflects a very positive thing very positive reality that happened to this country. And yet it's. It's not part of the movies we see. Meant to be that would that would be. Significant. And instead of showing what divides us it would show what brings us together. Blacks did not make up enough of this country. At the time to. To. Manifest that kind of change in America it took it took so many it took it took much of white America. To say look these are injustices in -- got to change. And yet that's not reflected that's not reflected in it in what we see. And then we you and all of this that the social and legal debate to have all of this. To the ever present threat of nuclear war. In the early sixties. The battle with the Soviet Union arguments with the Soviets that the the Cuban missile crisis. I guess it was in the fall of nineteen via a nine fall of nineteen and October 1962. For fourteen days the US blockaded Cuba because the Russians. Had put nuclear missiles into. And president Kennedy said no -- do that. And we were on the brink of war effect -- got a quote here from I've Khrushchev the signifying that. I -- it is. Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev sent a letter to president Kennedy -- about sick about Vladimir Putin's. Doing this with with President Obama. He puts nuclear weapons potent an -- I think it's fair to relate things today. To what happened in the past. -- which nuclear weapons in Cuba face to the United States or point to the United States. He sends a letter to President Obama stating that the US blockade if -- so that Obama orders a blockade of Cuba. So again we've got warships around Cuba. And Nikita Khrushchev the leader of the Soviet union of time. Said that this aggressive active. The blockade on Cuba could propel humankind. Into the abyss of a world nuclear missile war. The nuclear war that everybody figured. The Russians ultimately. Did back down. And we agreed to remove our missiles from Turkey and Italy which reported at. Moscow. These for the times that we lived it and then on top of all of this. It was the assassination of president Kennedy. In 1963 November. And three months later The Beatles arrived. As I look at all of this I -- I just think that there was I think there was just such an undercurrent of distrust. For the establishment. That. A young generation ways. Which ways for some things that would reflect their -- And The Beatles were so anti aids status clothes so counterculture. That day is British invasion movies. Fit perfectly. If you enjoyed our shortcomings tonight our numbers 260187. Toll free 8668890. -- seventy. Our tax numbers except except this is the -- Joseph envoy -- -- on its. Very much about drugs and we did meet anybody do drugs. The people who were doing drugs certainly got -- soared more than I did because I was a little dirty dieted. -- -- -- We'll be right back with more. It's Friday nights on this -- -- -- David W well. Fifty years ago Saturday The Beatles arrived in America did The Beatles change America or did The Beatles arrive at a time when America is just a young America was. Looking for something to fit their mood for change that's sort of a W a pretty general opinion poll. I get a share opinion by going to our web site WW dot com and we'll give you an update on that polls we tracked it through on our show tonight. Hey we have another New Orleans winner in our 1000 dollar national cash contest. Congratulations to Debbie WL listener Chile Pardo. And we -- puts money in your pockets to you can have four chances to win a thousand dollars every weekday. 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I think -- with a five -- -- if I'm wrong and you wanna send me text or call a show that pleased you are just did that live on the year but I think those with -- and because of the top five solid but it did it having to music radio for so long. I was always -- always focused on the the the top songs in the country it always amazed me that at one point The Beatles. Held the top five songs. On the charts and nobody is ever come close to doing that before. Do you remember what your parents. First told you about The Beatles you remember what their impression of Beatles was -- in my have been positive united -- -- love The Beatles. You know my mom didn't say that she didn't get it but my dad was was vocal and he just the didn't like The Beatles at all. If you remember that at first impression that your parents and of the deals. On and and you were young at the time I'd I'd want to hear what they -- -- -- if you gonna join our show tonight our numbers 2601. A seventy. Toll free 866889. Is nearly seventy. A takes a receipts revenues in politics here Walter Mondale lost to Reagan yeah right I did I do that it was Walter Mondale and in 1984 however. I was just thinking appointed. That that many people don't remember who who lost when a little time passes we remembered the first in every category. It would not even paying attention of the second or third. And The Beatles were the first. Of the British invasion and so they still to this day get most of the attention and as it turned out you know what I mean I loved my -- But and my dad was my hero but as it turned out he was wrong about this because The Beatles were not just -- a passing fanned. And that's why I -- so much. Security and comfort and satisfaction in. The fact that the the -- felt The Rolling Stones and and Paul McCartney Ringo. Still performing today. And and coming together and performing at the grammys. And I'd like to think that if all for The Beatles were still alive that's it that we would have had a Beatles reunion. I'll never forget I was -- going to work. 1 morning -- -- for music station here in New Orleans. And I was going to work 1 morning. And I -- bitterly that night so I didn't hear the news at night that John Lennon had been killed. And alone on -- street in the dark in downtown New Orleans I've bought the newspaper like I did every morning. And are on the front page of John Lennon was killed. And one of the feelings that I got there had been a lot of talk about The Beatles possibly getting back together. Before that time. And I I thought that this this was the one thing that would. Absolutely prevent. The Beatles reunion. It was certainly -- a tragic moment. You know over the years jagr drew what do these songs ready that we have -- -- ready. By the -- This was. I guess mid career minor -- career it's still early in my career. One of the most eat testicle bands to come out. At that time was the band called the net and -- -- -- was my Sharon. Their management you know I was able to interview a lot of dancing at the time but I did the did the neck would not do an interview. No they were -- there was actually belief. On their part and their management's part that the neck. Was going to be the next Beatles. They gave us much of -- I mean kind of hard to believe today it. These guys spot Bieber gonna be the next Beatles. I don't remember any other hit that they asked. -- this was a fun song but the next Beatles where do you guys get the ego. If you and -- -- showed an item numbers 2601. A seventy chill free 866889. Is nearly seventy. -- numbers 87870. This is the -- show on Friday nights like from New Orleans on WL. It's a Friday night we -- heading into the weekend together on this cute show and if we can't under Friday night I like to talk about to have the fun stuff in pop culture stuff there's Cephalon to talk about. So we're talking about The Beatles today is the fiftieth anniversary of The Beatles first arriving. In America. Here's an update on our WWL pretty general opinion poll do you credit The Beatles with changing America -- they arrived and America was ready to change. They changed America. 29%. 71% say they arrived at a time when America is ready for a change. Here's a text that -- San Manuel art trip I was in the seventh grade typing class in San Jose California when JFK was killed. We had pot. Dealing airplane against meaning Jefferson Airplane Dave Clark five men and and The Beatles. They were cool. But no they didn't change the US. I don't know about Louisiana but we dug at all. Not just then the chicks freaked out. But we were our own selves. I agree -- that. You know in. In San Jose Jefferson Airplane were from several Cisco. So they may have been out at the time but for America The Beatles were clearly first Dave Clark five. At one time were competing with The Beatles -- -- -- -- Dave -- five song lists and Angel for an at agreed to a ballad called cause. On The Rolling Stones of the but The Beatles were clearly first the airplane came around a little bit later spores of most of America's concerns if you're gonna join our -- tonight with comment to any memories that you have for The Beatles. Our numbers 2601870. Toll free 8668890. Point 78. And a text number is 8787. From every Paula you're on the VW elegant evening. New beast yeah yes. -- It culture change because that's what it would try and it. Then it would. Blow him and music. Aging. Because the the group group -- and B music changed the political. -- nebulous. Before the deals there was some of them are Ross was being there was a lot of foreign people -- And that was that there was also that the beach sports. Right to speech at the because you know and some job but when beat has to deal. Near Melbourne again in the city stadium. Well I you know I wasn't there I'd -- I didn't colonize them I don't know why my parents didn't take you know I don't know I just they're way I was not that. Cool of a kid I guess to even have wanted to go it is that was not even on my radar at that time but looking back on and I wish it would have been here. -- god they've -- which was low. On. Schools. Mr. you -- Right. Hollywood principal 200. -- at least it because. Could completely change or. Well -- anything like that called the English have longer school -- you're you're sideburns couldn't be lower than your -- -- your hair couldn't be over the backing your collar or over your ears. -- Widget to -- -- when they you. You know. Degrees. But it did it the other way. It was a complete change. -- -- Although -- could you don't should recognize similarities between debates that we're having in this country today about a young generation and what today's establishment went through. When they were young. No -- completely. Would put -- society. Is completely. And -- you know you look at -- would be. Afghanistan. It at all. -- old. -- because. And the war today at respected day. Guy that -- On and. Well actually. That's in this. No it's it's in this they are they were they were there were completely. And as well -- he sent me the information and I don't wanna get into a debate about whether they've been on stand apart or not. Is it is important were they weren't they were totally disregarded they were totally disrespect it there's no doubt about that one thing that we see today is. People disagree with a war but it's still support the troops and that's the way it should have been but that's the great lesson in America learn from the -- Vietnam vets for treatment you know because it wasn't there all and many of them went. Because they were -- You'll. Go to. And yet and the -- -- able. To. Get. Am a big difference Paul enjoy our conversation thanks for listing and you know once again thanks to all of you who were part of the Vietnam War. It wasn't -- it was it your fault that the war turned out the ways that it did it wasn't at it again. This was just -- an interesting political time and again this. The Vietnam War was -- linked to the threat of a nuclear war between the United States and Russia. Because. The Russians were supporting the north Vietnamese. And hoping to spread communism to south Vietnam. And in our effort because of our fear of the spread of communism we were even concerned in this country that communism would reach the Rio grant. No there was a time in this country went. When illegal immigrants coming across the Rio Grande was the best thing could happen. We were concerned that Communist would be crossing over our border and taking over the United States that was a true fear that. So win the north Vietnamese. Had the backing of the Russians in the south Vietnamese of the vacuum the United States. There was this tentative nature. About that conflict. Debt if there was an escalation. If we put too much into it. That it might ignites. World war three. Soul. That was a trophy here again there was. There were so many things again and it did I think parallel today's generation and in the debates today today's young generation -- establishment. And we the establishment word that baby boomer generation back then and yes of course things are different today. But in the spirit of things that the spirit of the the rebellion. And the concern for the influence of of The Beatles and that kind of music on a young generation. That is totally. Relative to. -- we're going through today. When we come back guy wanted to we did this a little bit earlier but I -- a replay part of a song called eve of destruction and it really does reflect the mood of this country. And it was already it was one of the big -- eve of the -- it was all about how. -- -- -- There's going to be a nuclear war were dead. And also we're gonna try finest theme song from the of the movie wild in the streets which was about it -- musician who became president. And instantly put everybody over thirty in concentration camps that was the attitude. Of that generation.