Feb 11, 2014|
Angela talks about the Intact Animal Permit Law with law supporters Nita Hemeter and Gene Goldring and Anna Zorilla of the Louisiana SPCA.
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-- happy Tuesday everyone aren't you glad you don't live in Georgia. They're really gonna get messed up again with the weather and we are very very lucky we can't complain anymore. Even -- look at cult that's okay weren't February. So we're not gonna comply. But again I'm listening and I thought bless their hearts here they go again but this time obviously very very prepared. All right we have three I think fairy interest in programs coming up and the first one is one I think is absolutely vital to this community. And we have three incredible people here to explain it. If you own a dog in New Orleans it must be spayed or neutered by law. If you choose not to pay to Spain -- new year pat you have to get a license. It's called the do -- intact animal permit. And the reason for is that continuing animal overpopulation. We battle every day. We are all we're reappearing the numbers of animals that have to be euthanized because they are on wanted. That's why having the intact animal permit is important. But it if it isn't enforced. It's not doing any good. And that's we're going to be talking about with -- zarrella executive director of the Louisiana SPC game. And co directors and supporters of the intact animal permit law. Need to have amateur and -- go over and I think all of you for being here but -- -- -- do not get that accurate. I think he did OK I think it is I think again for just the average wonderful person out there myself included when I first heard this I was a little confused. But the bottom line is if you choose to breed your animal you must have a license. Yes but I would go one step further so it's not just about breeding it's about choosing to keep your animal intact which means it's not been spayed or neutered. And there are lots of folks you know they have. Competition gods you know they go out whether it's fragility or obedience or confirmation. And so. You know there are lots of reasons why people you know keep their animals and tax and they don't can spare neutered. And the law that was passed in 2010. And was actually. Revised a little bit in 2013. If you choose to keep that -- intact it has to be vaccinated against a -- and -- and rabies. And then I think this is a really important one it has to be micro chipped. For us we -- so many animals that come in Louisiana SP CA. We know they belong to people they are in great shape they've been groomed to their suite. We can't find the owners because there's no identification. So getting those animals microchip is the only way to how permanent identification. And then the second piece of that is if you're not. Showing your dogs are not in competition. There's no real viable reason to breed your diet. Then spay or neuter your dock that is such an important piece and we've been working proactively. For years and I think that's really you know the big message is you know while we want is for people to spay or neuter their pets. We've been working and make that affordable accessible. You know there are grant dollars available for people that can't afford you know that the cost of spaying and neutering but that wanna have their animals sterilized. Because one of the number of homeless animals over population -- to and this is really where the -- came from. We email that animals that are intact so they've not been sterilized. Are more likely to bite they're more likely to -- they're more likely to be involved in really serious animal issues. And about three years ago we had a series of dog attacks and more islands. That were just devastating. I mean the victims were. You know just mutilated over these attacks and all of those dogs were intact that they were not spayed or neutered. And from that series of horrible events the City Council took a step back and said look. We need to create a safer city we need to find ways to encourage people to spay or neuter their animals. Or if they're not gonna spay or neuter them to make sure they're getting basic veterinary care and they're registered. And there is a registration -- now so if you're gonna keep your animal intact it's 75 dollars for the application. And twenty dollars every year after that and have to maintain that permit for the duration of that animal's life. And it's -- animal not per household so if you have four dogs and none of them are spayed or neutered. And your making that choice are actively choosing not to get them fixed. Then you have to have a permit for each one of those dogs and each year you have to renew that permit. Kind of like your pre tag on your car you know any other kind of similar licensing that. You know I was just your way of checking in and saying had been the veterinarian this year everything's fine with my -- they're healthy they're in good shape and I am making the choice to keep them intact. And again it's a decision that you know we want pet owners to make in conjunction with their veterinarian. We want them to engage with the veterinarian and talk about the health of their pet. In others -- lots of health benefits to spaying and neutering so things like reductions in different reproductive cancers. You know just again roaming behaviors. Even some things around marking territory. So some house braking issues sometimes you can deal with -- spaying or neutering. And there are still those who will say just on a philosophical level. I want my -- to have. His parts absolutely and it's a -- and a it gives them the right and the choice you know to keep their parts of that's what's best for you -- your -- But you have to get a permit and you have to register. Every year if you make -- it's. Very important what we're talking about and and again goes back to the bigger issue of animal overpopulation. And everybody thinks that it's not their problem. Right in fact it's I'm gonna get round numbers but. The figure I got from you was that 5000 had to be euthanized when you and whatever one's. And then and Jefferson Parish it's much higher than that it just goes on and on and people -- think well 5012. Announcement. 171000. Panels we're talking a year in our area here in Louisiana about 90000. For the state of Louisiana. That's a tremendous number of countless animals that are dying every year. And you know everyone thinks oh it's not my dog politics is once your dog going out once. You know finding another god one -- You know that can be 6810. Puppies that then continue to reproduce and those numbers explode. Exponentially so. We know that their communities. You know all along the East Coast and the West Coast. Even parts of middle America that have turned the corner on -- population and you know have. Now are in situations where they don't have enough puppies for the demand of puppies. But that's where we want New Orleans to be and to get there we need the whole community. Coming together and and changing how we think about our animals and -- -- animal ethics are. Well and that's a beautiful word animal ethics I want everyone to stay with this and I want you to feel free to call given thought tomorrow we're talking about 2601870. When we come back we're gonna talk to these other two great women. About what the problem is that there are facing right now with the law that is on the books so stay with us financial under the W went. Well we are talking about the law were talking about there isn't a law that you must have your dog spayed or neutered. And if not then you need to get a license and it's called the New Orleans intact animal permit. And as the role of Louisiana SP CA just gave a terrific explanation. Of why that came about. And and the need for -- but we're also joined by two women who are just huge supporters of this intact animal permit. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- And what is happened it is. We've -- the law on the books but nobody is enforcing it. Right. Our -- police started out with just a few levers we started effects but today to be several things we want it to educate the community. Support the Louisiana as PC eight help reduce pet -- population and he had just increase awareness about the benefits of spaying neutering the problems with puppy mills backyard breeders of the population. Which can which contributes of course to. Euthanasia so many wonderful animals animals that are healthy nothing wrong with them there's just too -- to many jobs. -- Some newspapers. Today that she the number of aunts and raiders advertising animals for sale. Here's the advocate they're sixty and it's right there here's the times Picayune 63. So these breeders are pumping and animals in to our communities. Which contribute to pet overpopulation. But I also has another effect. The taxpaying citizens have to pay three taxes. To clean up that mess as it warrants it's caused by these breeders a contaminant it ruptured right there. But law. They are supposed to have the license license. Indy ads exaggerate it can breed animals. You must have had my license and the newspaper if they're going to print -- must have a license number and what -- saying is that's not that's not has never -- all they say heads. And there's not wine license number. In any of these diets and I've got. Three papers a year okay you've been called the newspapers and said we have stance certified letters we have called we have email we have message to. -- and even hand delivered. Copy of the letter dam to the tabs picky. And they are obvious instantly they did rent our latter. Say the editor. Which condemn them. Act like rented a letter to the editor that's all linked OK but they're not changing -- you're not getting a response again we've not heard officially. From either the times Picayune or the advocate. And we're really sort of perplexed about this because. We do believe that the newspapers care that animals. And we wanted to support this law if the law is not written correctly that we want to revise it so that they can. Help them Louisiana as species day and the other shelters and rescues hologram in New Orleans area. Stop this problem. As you say it's so many animals in -- in shelters. Most of them don't get that'll and it's it's awful. It's awful and you know people have. -- I'm getting blunter in the older I can't and -- And it is much too much of lady at this point. But I really believe that when you give the figured 90000 animals just in Louisiana and in of people well that you can fairly -- your hands around yet. But let's say in our greater New Orleans area which is a very well look let's say that it's thirty felt. That's every year and people say well you know I don't wanna take it there because they're gonna euthanize it. Where do you want to put them 30000. On -- animals where are you going to put them. So people have to have that awakening of everybody contributes to the problem except that it has the time speaking in an advocate if they are not dealing with the loss says. They in fact -- Contributing to the problem I am I want to say I agree with you -- both newspapers have done phenomenal stories and the -- it's a lot they're consciousness is that there. But what do you think is the problem that they they don't want their salespeople to say to the person who calls in the ad for the litter of puppies are selling. What is your license number. There's a disconnect somewhere. And done it the animals are losing the 'cause that we don't know if they're wide they would put business interest in front of our morality. When the numbers that they stand their profit from placing these say it's hand -- terrific. And done they need to be. The show leadership role in the community by being part of -- -- instead of being the problem. Are contributing to the problem and I will and we've had. You know a number of people willingly come forward to get the permits if you know they were legitimate breeders are people that are just very committed to a specific breed them. You know they're. They know their breeds and they wanna do the right thing on the law. And so they're doing the right thing getting the permit going to veterinarian every year taking care of everything. And yet here we have a whole list a hundred or better of you know folks in the community not doing the right thing. And the newspapers not. And we each I mean in just. On my own in the past few weeks. We rescued. A litter. Little hit goals that someone was selling and round since parking lot to. Anyone who had fifty dollars and Paul's. Hand and actually against. How it brilliantly island then two days later I saw someone in in on flagrant violation and line drive thing. -- -- Little pit bulls in the back on the last. All -- rock. In -- where in east shortstop they would have gone line. And I mean this is just mice all in two weeks. This team needs and in a year. If you attract those dogs that are being sold for fifty dollars an apples. Around this city how many do you think are going to be with the people they whistled to him and he will be. Used as bait used by. Abuses. And up on the streets in guys and streets or being sheltered euthanized I mean what. It is it's true. How many animals do and you pick up and any given day and a I was say per month we arranged six to 800 is sometimes even up to a thousand a month so if you back that. It could be anywhere from two when need a fifty day. You know that we pick up -- that come in the front door so litters that are found in the coming in little boxes -- that. You know we get a call that there is you know dogs that are breeding it under an abandoned house and we got them pick up. You know the momma dog and all the puppies and they'll -- and it's a tremendous number of animals and so and what part of what our percentage of the -- Do you think. Belong to people than they thought they go back home. Very small I would say it's a very very small number of animals and actually get reunited with their owners. And so again going back to that two key pieces of the intact parliament in New Orleans parish are. That their micro chipped and then microchip past to be registered. Or that the owner chooses to spay and neuter which again. Weekend very very small percentage of animals come into the shelter already spayed or -- we know that if somebody chooses to spay or neuter their animals. They've already made a commitment to an animal in the wave that. You know a lot of other owners to Scandinavia. And so we value that we wanna make it is easy as possible. We want people to call if they've thought about spaying and neutering if they have questions if they have concerns about. You know what the student my dog's personality. You know what will lead to two there. Wade -- change any of those kinds of issues an accident yeah any of those things call us because we are happy to talk with folks about. You know the truth about spaying and neutering and what are really does to your pet. And we wanna help remove the obstacles so if it's cost that's the obstacle. Call us and -- More try to come up with a solution is -- transportation to you need help. Not getting -- -- really hearing that if you can't use that as an excuse now we wanna get rid of all the excuses antibody to hold on justice and we have a caller Susan very quickly from meant to film. I. Look back at like say hi yeah I did he remembered me. I got that aren't doing it -- the. Oh my god yes. -- again it. Well you know we hear -- -- -- -- -- -- not expecting that beer bottles we. -- Look like they executed via. Collected -- Come out from the perspective how -- rescue her and -- during the a long time I've seen -- -- -- -- I've spent my email money no. You open at -- cute couple and the problem. Now it was being. Filled Medigap aiding the Robert van but had so much money he'll be one. People are hang out of pocket. You are begging for one he called it couldn't be stopped if we have still many animals out there. Start somewhere and you know it got it absolutely out of control. -- -- agree 100% but it's good to hear another voice saying that that's probably one it's on the streets picking up some of these animals. And you know it never pan -- -- settle packed up everybody that supported that that we need to get. The times Picayune -- I'm. You know that that law. And the and they add an epic and the antioxidant. And the other thing action -- to mention is that you know this is focused on Orleans parish. And one of the you know it's a great step forward for the city of New Orleans and you know we're. Truly this is groundbreaking for the state of Louisiana. But the other thing we really need to see is that our neighboring parishes start working towards handler girls -- -- a live we're gonna talk about the Anderson as we come back we're gonna go to the newsroom now and Chris Miller. If you want to breed your dog you are within every right to do that but there is a law that says you must have a license. If you do not have your animals spayed or neutered. Very very important that we consider all of this because we do have such a horrendous overpopulation problem and it's such a high rate of euthanasia in this. Area 90000 dogs and cats in the state Louisiana are euthanized every year. 90000. So the issues that need to -- return -- during and and it as a villain from the SBC they're talking about. Is that if you do agree to make that choice you have to have a license and if you advertise in the newspapers. For your puppies. You must have that license number in the newspaper and what they have found that in the time speaking in an enemy advocate. There are about a hundred twenties -- odds. -- And not one of them has the license numbers so we have a law and we're not enforcing we're gonna stay on this but we have a special caller -- Foster who -- A delightful guy who has been fighting the battle for pet doubles for ever. And and you have some information I think is very interesting can. Yeah hi. Thanks for having me and show. And I -- what to call in briefly -- a break from work to hit some mentioned that. This new look foundation my organization that works primarily with people's. We're sponsoring -- training for New Orleans -- to learn non surgical sterilization technique called the current. And I think you know the one of the problems that cities states with getting capitol complex being. -- is the accessibility in the cost like that for a lot of people do. Might even you know might want to take care of their dogs but not necessarily have the ability to even get to a local clinic. The great thing about this -- Is it injected into the male dogs and it. Journalists as well permanently. It can be done. You know and -- -- living room in their backyard you can drive a truck into a -- and have dogs lineup and do them one after another there. And it's expensive to. And it costs about twenty dollars a dollar. And so it's new to the market. It's true it's something that that people aren't familiar with -- and yet. And other people I don't feel really strongly that this could be a great school in addition to the traditional neutering. To reach those people that are not currently. Getting -- And and we can do that by making it very affordable and also by making it something they don't need to find transportation. This has to be done by a veterinarian. Ray had to be done by a veterinarian and the training is done by our sciences which is the company that's. But the market has been approved by the FDA. And what is your reception been. Not abide the veterinarians. Well in New Orleans it. And finding people there are a little reluctant and I think that it sort of normal people are always a little reluctant to try something new. And yet I think that we do you have of this population of people that I think are. Agreeable to sterilizing. But just don't have the -- sources or be. Ability to get to of that. -- -- Cory Wade -- week and trying to reach that particular segment of the population. Also it because you're not surgically removing anything it hasn't altered the appearance of the which is silly as that -- -- is an issue for some people particularly. -- -- And Colorado. Also. If you wanna show your dog which some people view. Enjoyed going to the competition additional. You don't have to be intact that would option which is strange but the -- so then. -- against these -- injection and Hewitt. You know nobody but you when your dog -- now but they -- do little uneasy taxis and that if you -- in in shelter or that situation. That they know that they're aware that the congressman. -- this is Saturday and this is open to veterinarians. No it's actually coming up Sunday march 09. -- got a little bit of time that we're looking for -- to come and be a part of it. That -- a little bit of an online training that they can do and then there's a wet -- will be doing on Sunday march 9. Where every event that and -- to three dog. And so anybody have a dog -- like to bring it we can take care for them. And that's get continuing education credit and they get pretty. Vials of the medicine that they can take and use as they see it. So if anybody is listening mission called event right. -- -- You know they don't have to immediately change everything they're doing in their clinic but they should I think take advantage of the properties have to learn firsthand how this new. Injectable sterilization to. And I really appreciate you calling about a ten again it's in our ongoing battle for. The understanding of the importance of not reproducing. Yep so people want -- get more information on that they can email us at info. -- to a foundation dot org. -- foundation dot -- thank you very very much. Thank you for having children bellowed everybody else there. I think he can help you later Obama. -- -- We're going to build back to our initial thing of what can only do to get the newspapers. To do what they should be doing. If you've done all of leg work you've done sent them letters and walked over there. I don't know what we need to damning. Written that City Council -- and do we need to get the attorney general involved changed the law. I don't know coming out wished I would I wish the times Picayune and the advocate would do what game that dance. Because gambit. They only advertise animals for adoption. Here's a campaign right here we've got some animals from the Louisiana is PC eight. We've got some animals Stein Mart. And that and other risky is listed. So when he and the times Picayune in the advocate can do this as a matter of policy. A lot of people it suggests it suggested that maybe we should have a protest. You know it'll law you are coming out of and a panic. Is it just days. -- roles to enforce this law. It is and we currently in force and and I think that's one of the big changes from the 2010 lot of now. Is that we have taken a much more active approach on the enforcement side with individual owners. In the past we were only enforcing and when there was another infraction in place so if your dog was -- roaming and we picked it up. You know we checked that you had a rabies license and an intact permit if you're -- and fixed. This is the first year in this is really been pushed by the city's Health Department. And the City Council that we're doing. A lot of community -- reach around the government. As well as reaching out to individual dog owners. That have been identified through the cities of freebies licensing program is being intact. So we've started contacting individual owners and saying. You know it appears that you have an intact dog. We need you to either spay neuter your diet or coming compliance with the line in terms of the intact permit. With the newspapers. You know that challenge is they're getting advertisers are people that are listing dogs that don't necessarily live in Orleans parish. Or are selling animals outside of the -- And so if you have someone from saint Tammany that has a litter of puppies. And there are you know not from New Orleans they would not necessarily have a permit so. Yes -- -- -- needs to be changed has -- that jurisdiction to jurisdiction I think that's really significant and and the other thing is really thinking broadly about. Animals don't know -- lines. As light as we you know we remove among our bearing -- says every day. And so again you know and yes it's great for in New Orleans that we've taken a step forward. But I would really love to see that our neighboring -- -- start thinking much more progressively about. -- much broader impact the animal issues in Jefferson in Saint Bernard and plaque humans were all in southeast Louisiana. The animals are moving among all of us and -- should be very proud that it absolutely and I wanna give full credit to our City Council. Right Susan -- trees Cynthia had her well I mean we've had some real animal advocates on the council. That is -- but as far as enforcement. For the news papers. Is the SP CA. Jumping in there too. Get involved in that challenge as we can you call them or we certainly have we've reached out feminine and the individual City Council members and have also present out to them. But again it's an issue. You know we don't control who they list and it's they're internal policy that needs to change around. How these things are listed because they are. You know listing people that are in violation of the law we'll be right that this is Angela under the -- you. And so we're talking about the intact law and let's go to canned from New Orleans can. I don't and it went really well. Where does the money so the Louisiana SP CA does collected the application fees and the annual renewal fees and it goes into the animal control enforcement budget. So that money goes directly back into picking upstream is investigating cruelty and forcing all the laws -- Orleans parish thank you can't great question Timothy. You won't let you do it. Comment we're talking about the newspapers that I'm going to be I can't believe life and number. To look into possible to improve for -- -- he's owned the the newspapers that are doing this. Good very good question and a so I'm not a 100% sure what the right answer is so that I can tell you the way the laws written right now of the fines and fees are -- individual dog owners. So we'd have to look at how does that apply to a business the first infractions a hundred dollars the second has 250 the third is 500. The dogs can be impounded and removed from the owner. And it's a municipal citation which means you have to go to court and it's a misdemeanor so their can be community service and you know possibly jail time depending on the judge but again those really apply to the individual dog owner. You know we have to figure out how does that apply to a business that's not abiding by the printing requirement of the law but let's go back to their original premise of this whole thing it is to get the newspapers to do with the supposed to do it. So what do you suggest. Well I just etiquette suggesting she -- just start it paper to make phone calls to the people that are. Advertising animals for sale in our newspapers puppies for sale. And encouraged him to get a license encouraged him to get their animals spider Nader. Tell him about the over population problem. And its impact on so many animals in our study. So that's a good idea start call science. The other thing I was gonna say is that if you do see people selling puppies that do not have permits. Called the Louisiana SP CA if there -- New Orleans parish so you can call 3685191. And report whatever you're seeing and that way and again whatever documentation you consensus -- there's pictures of -- You know any other information that will help us be more effective. Our job is to enforce the law and we want to be able to do that but we can't without the information and the support for the community. So everyone out there can take an active role and changing how we're doing things have. I think it is suggestion you know. Picking up the newspaper when you see those ads picking -- the phone and calling and talking of people and ask them where you located are you in Orleans parish. Are you selling New Orleans parish do you have a license. You know making sure if you are acquiring a -- from a breeder. You're only acquiring it from one that has a license at a summit as saying -- and encourage people to follow the law and do it you know your decisions -- choices. Support. The right thing we want people to adopt or if they're gonna buy a -- habit from a reputable. Person who's actually doing the right thing because again that license also means that they had their shots that they're healthy they didn't -- I veterinarian I have a microchip all of that's really important when you're selecting. A new member of your household. As people complying with the law are more likely to reduce that Mary -- air. But and a I've got to ask you a personal -- -- not quicker -- a question how quickly. -- And people are reluctant to call the LE SP CA when they do see this because they are concerned as. Far as the fate of the poppies and I've heard this a number of time to learn the fate. Well I will say exactly the fate if you -- and for the most part we're really successful in placing poppies. Locally as well as we moved on all over the country for adoption. The harder ones honestly are the bulldogs. That her a little bit more challenging him more health issues and younger dogs like command of all -- just review of the best thank you thanks Angela I -- -- I very much -- -- have an idea that. Thank you to and I need to and -- the law is intact we need to enforce.