Mar 20, 2014|
The new and tougher classroom standard called Common Core is the subject of battles across America. Now the fight is in our state legislature. It pits the head of the state school board against governor Jindal. Have you taken a side? Do you even understand what Common Core is? Garland was joined by Steve Monaghan, President of the Louisiana Federation of Teachers, to hear his side of the issue.
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Itself won't talk about common cause I'll be -- truthful on this side. Have read a little bit about your dog listened to shows about it still not really sure what it is. The -- can determine owner -- simplistic. Basis. It's. It's not the educational curriculum -- -- standards. Standards. Developed by teachers administrators and -- parents looking all over the world for best practice -- Veterans edit rips him Monahan -- Louisiana federation of teachers this morning see him I appreciated to. Hey I appreciate you probably don't worry about the information overload thank. Actually -- the world are -- A good a lot of read too much. And what what's your unions. Take your stay so calm cool. The first cute you know just be clear coming -- -- big -- that you Caribbean initials more than the word church. It's coming CoreStates standards it seemed CSS. And launched. Going directed to 2009. When it was put on and on the radar. Just interstate radar 22 and -- win the state Louisiana. Signed on with some other 48 states. And that's about it is clear is that going to get it for you because the standards themselves. Then beat world war launched. And they were supposing it to be state standards. As they -- guiding principles or guiding. Our curriculum drivers. Who -- performance achieved in our schools. The desperate I can say it -- would be this way as soon as one of the folks that were intimately involved in it. That we're entering a very uncertain world but it we know now that these children need to know certain things and we're gonna have to lift more. To prepare them for that very uncertain future now clarity applause you know. Because of the next you know we're in 2014. The next two or three years that followed the stage citing all the there wasn't a lot of conversation with communities. -- teachers. About any of this it doesn't hit -- the good news cycle to 2013. We word in say Louisiana involved in other. More key reforms. Strong national controversy. Swirls. Whether or not the standard -- rigorously as they should be whether or not parents were too early involved in teachers or the involved in the implementation. Whether they're really met state standards that are national standards. Whether we're prepared for the cast. That concludes my my soliloquy here. That means -- the superintendent of education board of education had decided that this will be phased -- Over the next ten years. While other states as we're seeing what's happening around -- kind of controversy of the implementation. That the number of states that -- even participating keeps dropping. So this session is going to be a whirlwind of bills on whether or not we're in. Common core where I would common core. Whether or not Caribbean news standards there's about 25 different pieces of legislation that have been filed to deal -- -- -- -- has become very controversial issue. I've I've got to the against -- relief from. -- solutions association of business and industry yesterday. And -- -- just list a whole raft of very very large companies all of this story. Plus association -- teachers in mathematics science teachers -- public charter school. Student for a education military childhood education school library and -- for a Marek. And it goes on and on and on. All saying that that the were on board -- -- common core. And in the the body of -- -- document like it's. To -- the 23%. Of fourth grade students and -- -- or proficient in reading this means. Louisiana students or stock struggling and falling or behind their peers you know the parts of the country in the world. At a time -- the groups is imperative for both college career and beyond. So two questions. YouTube or is the educational community. Split on whether or not this is a good idea of and and what about the the claim they're struggling in four. Look at those two pieces there yup there's been a coalition. Those that are being connected in -- in well financed pushed the core agenda. Well I don't think in person here. Doesn't have to accept an argument between whether or not standards or good thing or bad thing I don't think that's where the argument this. -- and it really is involving him in that answers your question in regard to you where the education community is those individuals working K12 Scopes. Without an epic failure in the nation in Louisiana. It was my point of saying we implemented our good political powers adopt that common core -- signed on in twenty chance. Rather than spending time of educating the community preparing for the launch. But it didn't happen. So consequently. We have to debate and that's why the coalitions forming on the other side too -- try to keep pushing. The issue web standards that Garland in the fourth grader in 23% being in New York. We're gonna make -- a little bit more I think people have been it's not a field -- standards. In in in the case. I -- if it's as simple matter of a lifting lifting the bar and our and our students do better and I think we would have seen that a long time ago. I think there are numbers -- issues that affect that toward that number that's being excited. Some of that has to do with the resources in clarity aboard a purpose that would king in Orleans parish for years and years. Wind wind before Katrina. Which we've discussed before some capacity with the resources that provide some of those schools as some other breaks down to flat out. We're dealing with communal keep problems. In the buildings and a fracture of of those communities in regard to carrying. Families. And and I expect it to say because it sounds like a cliche that the effect of generational poverty. So it would really should be a war and as between those that support standards in the post now. He hit -- this would have been implemented as situated that teachers in the in the culture. If we have the magic formula how to teach children what looked past to be talked they're ready to move. The problem with that with the launch since when he can't. Has been a problem. What are we being asked to do it. All -- going to have curricula that state is gonna help develop so that we are using common standards and everyone knows with all -- All week. Not going to do it because that's how -- and he called -- over the last four years straight saying it's up to the local stood in the woods. The locals saying well. We don't have the resources to do -- we need your help. You know and then address the big issue here for so many is the fact that we're launching a protest the -- switches that. Well developed by by national consortium. So that we can come here our students to students in other states. At first at one point there were numbers of over twenty to 25 or whatever stage that we're involved in this extortion package world tour a 1415. States. My position our position had been trying to express for organizations clear. There are no problems with comparing Louisiana students to the other states the problem is we have to make sure that the children where we're comparing from Louisiana. Haven't resource and provided live. The information they need to have a fair chance to be compare. If we have adults feel here that our implementation. Where kids are being asked to take -- or online test for the first time. They're not prepared to do it we don't have to computer ability in schools actually do it. I think it's seven -- -- where we ordinary else having kids that are computer. -- we ought to be honest about that say that Louisiana. Isn't gonna compare well to states that have invested more into the preparation for the industry association. So it's it's a complicated issue at some point but I didn't want and at one point it really isn't it it's once again. Clarity of purpose moving forward with a vision that we should have -- and can win this was adopted. Instead. Chasing a number of other issues and leaving common cold war on the shelf and now having can be. Asking. What in the heck is going on here and I think that's what we can see coming out of this world legislation we -- a day yesterday on the privacy issue that's what it probably. Our approach would talk about. And parents are upset about the sharing that they're -- children's data so all that swirling around this issue upcoming court. -- -- And it. If you can and iron out all. The blogs and do you agree that it's good do internationally bench market and -- market. As states compared states. Yeah definitely if we are clear about this stage that we're comparing ourselves to you. Very clear about what they have done in regard to. Providing it to educate children. I think you just can't hear me. Well I can't if you ask me to compare -- here at schools where Louisiana achievement to Connecticut. I would simply say you also about -- compared that the quality election in Connecticut. Overall the wealth factors in Connecticut because otherwise you're gonna could easily can do the comparison before Weaver -- ever get to detest. The issue that you just brought up there's a rich is a -- one when you -- internationally benchmark. The current -- pro process. That these things these these standards have been in national -- the international benchmark. But there's also that that's virtually out there on the other -- saying no they haven't. They haven't been international benchmark. And Eric that part of it becomes what I keep going back Q. The simple thing is that -- taking four years. And to. Probably answered all those questions. We wouldn't have parents now. Seeing a little bit this -- the state K this is a federal takeover of the state educational process. That's an accusation golly that's been made. But the standards really barrel they're not they have not been internationally benchmark. Now I'm not a key step up there BP Robert torrents. Well yes -- I'm hearing two steps in teachers -- to our troops in regard to whether or not that is color. I mean there's frustration out there and apparent side is this really more about the corporate. Our coalition of corporate interest that or using this as saying as state money. Proposition or -- to gain more access through the testing. And the obstacle the whole idea of a labeling of students I mean here's the question of five billion a full point something billion dollars worth the money that's. That's on the table. I'm saying I'm not a conspiracy theorist or what proposed and in the total long. Is that why didn't do each town hall meetings and why don't we do them as we face and and inform the public. Are what this is innate in what it is and people making comparisons go into this is just liken Obama -- care. I'd like sitting here are saying my god everything is gaining compared. And some marketplace. To something that. Really tightening up big -- -- pitfall. And it's all because we didn't as states take the time to educate the public in regard to what is what is. And it it's not a sensible than we do the right thing -- going to different direction. I'm I'm I'm very concerned because it's causing that are causing a great diplomatic in the buildings and ultimately children will be -- medium ones that. That's field the pain that that when you compare poorly to -- and. Its -- tell we were wrong. I personally called covering via. Orleans terrorist group word nineteen -- that often alone for twenty years. On eight years of this -- long and it and I hear over and over from higher education. The students are being sent to laws need remedial education. But for a week and even start and I've heard that for a lifetime. It seemed like we go through these periods of trying different things but to trying -- different things. Just lead to the fight between the unions in the parents in the school in the principles and then on to the legislature. Do we do we just keep doing this and and at least the international rankings don't put us -- -- near the top when we compete with the world. And seeing their -- I think you're you're plugging I think you you give electron about two this year plugging into a mean that is partially true. Partially true if it gets repeated for instance on the side of the remedial education issues mentioned universities. We're seriously seriously cutback on any remediation and now we have the junior colleges where where kids are being pushed and technical schools. Mean that there is no open in mission anymore so student commercial. -- there -- issues that students like complete and program then and the cost of the state regard to tops. Some of this are as we transfer from generation to generation seems to these same argument if we won't look more closely. There -- communities. The predictors -- there I mean when we look at international comparisons. When you adjust for poverty -- community or within the within the it that the nation that's being compared. You are seeing the same things we've both seen troll like time there are pockets of excellence. Welfare and there or blowing pockets of despair. And step definitely related to the social economic conditions of community. It's also do a -- that fragmentation in the meltdown that's happening in the Stanley structure. Consistent ultimate. You get an apology. Got to see you as news. Little bull will continue to cover this appreciated that time -- saying thank you talk.