Welcome back to the mental -- -- Your by the way. Com reports. -- -- -- -- epidemic in this state in this country. I think a bunch incorrectly -- borders happened that is why people -- hooked on prescription. At its. Things like OxyContin. And win that became a major problem. They got restricted. And when that occurred. The the replacement. Of Troy is became heroin because it was cheaper than Cabrera right. Well in the legislature now there's a house -- 332. And that would double. The minimum plug your prisons and that sport distribution. Retired require time in prison for possession. And I think two possessions. Users. Would have serve at least two years behind bars. So it's in the legislature and now we're expecting. A call from they've represented the terrible injury shortly. Where I think is involved with the bill. In the meantime we're above curl -- via Louisiana State troopers Mike -- -- war -- -- or Pritchard called. Hagerty back. Director and I've -- -- and -- -- sure you'll Norman says it's easier by her -- on the streets. Than it is -- -- it -- call and I've talked to young people and it's easier than getting. A McDonald's hamburger. Is well he's. It is in the next there -- the moment I'm not and the legislature. Or let you talk about as you know we're gonna -- -- in the in the new order -- odd years in and the thing about it it's spreading -- importance of Louisiana. Relate 300 him. Heroin related rests. State police insurance open in 2013. Is now. -- Terrell Owens reportedly the second highest truck following crack cocaine. Contributed to probably at least that. That counties something like -- -- seeing and a comment. As -- 290%. Increase in crime lab submissions from point twelve point -- to me so that's a number of cases that are coming in the comment. We kept in the period when it's almost it was pretty actually. Who tests in the -- on the coat on him heroin and the New Orleans area it has increased from 50%. As high as 31% that's an incredible. Purity level for that particular type drug it was pretty. Much in the eighties were I'd be eradicated and and have done away with the Louisiana about its way back into it. And the thing about it is that it's one thing. If you can get that person and get them into a medical place where they can can help themselves. But what we do one it would firing people that are. And the Eagles still are now Beatles -- in when we get there. These these these kid that are ingesting it. -- it it is -- -- it's it's killing so tried to get to him front and it is not working summit beginning in. -- game -- so -- you know you -- -- up to that again the system. You know maybe that we've got a look at him and it's sad that we could argue or for error related deaths -- last year. So I think when you look at the numbers than on McCoy well 60% of revenue bonds so. We've got it is something an epidemic. It's. Moralizing. -- as lately and as a pair. The kids and have been around family than it has had had members that I am involved in I've seen it. Carton it's very scary type of drug is something that that would we've got to do something about. And we're joined Ohio State representative. Terry let Hendry. Two -- tells about house bill 332 and what what's he trying to do. Well conditioner. Little burst or good afternoon and I hurt -- different government. Are articulate. The problem apparently has cost there's good -- they don't particular problem. But there's little. We agreed on all the people stakeholders -- -- deputies. Obviously believes and then -- -- enforcement and and general because legislators are generally better -- being down. Our increased penalties Iguodala to get our treatment there's there's a lot more important -- we we -- -- dislike from my own destiny Colts originally. But also made -- are great but our but our industry here. All the positions are part. But there's typical news took the initiative. There's of the tour are we we hope that. It will deter people from mom from using heroin. -- more often. All I'm not only the position for the possession. Hopkins -- with our people or people. Continue to treatment doubles and just choose to distribute. And Teixeira wanted to know was poison to our community I think we need to send a clear message to Humberto the tolerances you wrote about initiatives. Our -- -- very Mariners because it was tiger it's been hurt a great about it. There's -- or 232. And an era when Vietnam making a big comeback in this state there -- -- it was pointed out. And hearing from the government there has declared that he almost RO. An emergency. As it relates to this. Comeback tour -- Aaron but the one issues and one thing that our -- there are in this whole. Initiative determined comeback -- that the -- to -- His description drove through bankruptcy. So I mean we really every potential problem. On this particular bill it was more deterrent rabid fan. Pay beyond just walk Bob without -- -- in the ego treatment. Looted breaker won't come right back. Lotta people wanna talk to you about this suits. And usage or 18 celebrity columnist questions we've got the experts with this. Or -- over anywhere in the country at 66. Aided nine and 087. Are welcome back thinking about drug house bill. Concerning our -- -- epidemic can basically wants to double the minimum five your prisons and -- forward -- his -- Users would have to serve at least two years behind bars where apparently Andruw with the state representative. -- have colonel. Mike -- was -- -- the state troopers scoops so Mubarak callers. As to -- wrong colonel and Terry appreciated the call it. Racially Q Garland thank you so much. For the out of the call. Were you thinking because one of the talking about. Powell we got the magic operation out of the world in it it did you ever -- -- the torch. The feel good. About giving them great -- I don't think if they can put. -- You know. What so the thing you know with the things that are in the QB. Lot people. Kind of -- all. Oh. Well with that kinda terror I didn't because. We it would. Mostly African Americans are. Cheap. You can draw. Market -- like they are -- It caught the chip crack in here as well -- article okay so. I thought you know we've got up using. Lot of people especially. Yeah compared to thank. They -- Belcher Terry colonel. Well I'll agree and -- and I habitable bone in terms of treatment then tournament Ohman. Increasing penalties. Com book arms and arms that are playing that are -- and particularly don't demand problem. An and our agreement there. The problem is that so we don't have adequate treatment facilities. Only cut and then and don't accept Medicaid the federal. Tom mitigate money it has an impact normal treatment facilities. We've caught. Our hospital. And and treatment centers -- -- rob there's debate them and under the Bedard of the downsizing government. Com with any consequences when you when you start cutting these OK here are mental hurdle there's some earlier is that it's cost. And the things from our problems were mentally. The citizens of the law enforcement. Our jails and now becoming our mental hospital something could go off in Norman and all of our and again our our come unconvinced that the possession. -- is simply pre pre -- desirable problem. The people that that that would just poison not community. And and that's the only reason -- -- -- increase because there's no economic value than the person selling it. Compliment old economic value. And him -- -- you know street and the strokes people like the credentials look considerably. That's a question for both I read this vertical wall in the media standard you -- and report. -- you know and -- war on drugs. This from the DEA -- always been that -- billion dollars per year. Trying to eradicate drug from this country according to DE AL -- -- capture lips then and percent. Of all the illicit drugs and the orchards. And then we get the quote from our local shirt that says it's easier to buy heroin on the street then it is the bio or con. If prosecutors. And the legislators and -- mutant. We'll solve fired determined. To put you losers in prisons. What are we gonna start seeing results on the war and drops. You and I -- more money more money how much more money do you knee. And and shouldn't we be turning to you in saying if you're gonna do the same thing. We didn't do it for forty years with very -- results. Shouldn't be given -- the enters. I'm familiar that it's -- I think. Certainly represented. Almost superintendent Carl Landry. Certainly put it pretty. Nice area I understand either proponent for people he has always been that. Indicated Gingrich and his boys understand the fact that it terrible and once you replicated in Louisiana back in the bad -- made it virtually went away. -- Smith urged them to encourage you give life prison sentence to dealers -- you're doing that knowledge of the purpose. Is the cut back you. -- about that you also made an emphasis within mall fortunate about changing the culture I mean I've been bounces do Rio Grande river. An infection where the drugs coming across so much what -- -- Carl McCall that. The sixty mile stretch -- the river around McAllen Texas the right equipment area where more than the Jordan comes across. Could opium which is where. Derivative of -- -- -- incidents and opiate drugs. -- -- I think we didn't come to Canada now where I think twinge then that Baldwin is all we going to line and some pictures because you you -- and convinces that the war on drugs working part. Well in there and jump in our corner kind of grief we that if we had put. -- The law the money -- -- to beat Purdue execute on the long problem or an education we -- -- -- that -- him. But -- district attorney Duchscherer to get elected. Are if he's not a crime net and does not play in the long -- took our society -- has been a little hypocritical missile progress. And -- -- that -- war broke and topic we've -- that pockets of poverty today. But I think it was good you're departed for more than just one level was able to -- -- You have to do treatment you have to -- enforcement. Actually can not fight -- battle with one big goal change. Are a little to me as of this. This is from the beer institute you -- tell me it's badly institutional. When they're able to check him but I've. Had a longer show and in a row while the bottom of last year they did report on our department of public -- and -- for its prison system cause the 698. Million dollars a year. -- 171486. Dollars per prisoners because of that cause. Pension funds in this state under funded. We only have 80%. Of the bonding that required. We need almost six million dollars we don't have. Under funded retiree health care contributions. We've only got 25%. We need 32 million. In made. Terrorists causing his sporting news new year and made education and -- his four million this year. We're gonna go all these months all this money with these people that we want continue. -- continued to do the same thing that's not worked. More taxes. Well you have to step brought -- -- exactly what's most important thing. -- -- you don't with the educational side of the -- that we -- look back at. Political prisoners and I've been educational side of it. And where you can make. Particular -- that airless. And the clear thing about it not more importantly drug use truck so -- a problem with parent one is the fact that that we're not getting too -- and it -- we're not getting -- can make a difference in their lives. And that I think that's what you your biggest actors and we've got to do something you can do that to prison. You have an opportunity. -- -- -- case in point last week you don't -- being courts. I didn't actual court. You make it to court when it cameras out and needles sticking out of the ball. You know at what point you try to do something as as. -- administrators sure as -- attorney. As stable -- what point tried to do something. Well that's working and -- no matter what we have or haven't done it pat it's important that we do something now. Can you can you show me studies or it's state. Or putting people in prison users. Whether it's Irwin whether -- one number one is worth. And number two -- that Portugal branded much smaller than worry. Has a law that the -- equalized all of us it was -- by the police who was bought by the legislator. They put her in the place in the were better than in the of the place in the world. Where the studies in the results that shows what you want to do were. Your leisure studies at Bayer but again it's -- -- one -- -- and written up my supportive marijuana are. There's all -- of legislation that that is out there visiting that we should be penalized or not and and make it there are 88 penalty for a couple -- it's. Didn't put people wait for whatever. But I gotta tell you that legislate in this building and notified. They're gonna Friday to prevail because they have to go back to their constituents. And and and they have to bring your percentile for our. They're -- our argument and and I agree viewed the populace. Is an article one on our. When I go back -- big point out. 70000. Dollars today for prisoners 690. Million with consulting an extra to the board the hopeful we will -- What computer on to the -- that you sit there until the populace Randa. And -- good enough. You know in corporations that want to arm was about rehabilitation and changing behavior -- -- -- And not just me speaking that cooperation as a business because. People make it and you know. Partially usually run on the Asia. It's Abrams didn't turn Landry our current law and since they police. Run out of time our producers goalie in the time. You won't come back Colin. Debate does talk about it more to a the microphone to. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Come right I don't know what you think I mean we we or the course ready shouldn't capital of the 00. Mean per capita. We're we put more people in prison and and on and then a couple of the country's. Is that something we see working. In the divorce too conservative state. And we are -- against big government. One -- comparable. With Peyton. 600. 98 million almost 700 million dollars a year for prism. With the huge population of non violent offender. We don't -- play and -- picture for -- to understand that you don't trust politicians. We're in order paper with a billion dollars in drinking water in New Orleans. There were losing forty to 50% of water every day. I understand that you don't trust politicians. The comforted and weren't picked 4200. Billion to -- Louisiana understand that that would pay more taxes. Is with -- our mentality. That says give me that 700. Million. To put addicted users or way. And the reason we're doing. Is because when they come out. They're going to be all about. Mean. I think was represented itself Bogans started the proves. I got to see that stuff -- that well we're talk little about how to build. Room 32. Heroin epidemic. In Tuesday in this country. No doubt about it I would submit had a -- -- homework. The majority of the United States is turning to treatment. Or. Even Graham Paul. Reading Rand Paul and he basically -- war on drugs is joke is some failure worm -- Spending all this time -- It moving over -- more were spending all of this effort. And orders. You'd -- something that we hadn't been able to do one and get people. Where you're Louise out of where you think the opposite. We won a double the minimum by -- -- prison for distribution now. Those veteran -- as -- some -- prosecutors most sure of -- the news. Delta in. Well back in the 96 in 97 he would wiped out hero -- by creating their own life sentence. Or distribution. One to go after him like sentences again now begin to give at least two years on boards to use. And double the minimum by your presence and -- for distribution there Rory says that they have been answered to it but they're not doing now. All confusing and as usual one listened to both sides have to go we'll Harold -- ACLU southern regional policy council will walk -- -- -- appreciate Coco. I just out of state representative. And and the colonel. Maybe -- -- -- -- said. -- -- Show -- -- The pro somewhere in this country. We're putting users. Injury. Drops. That would do drug problem we have in the country. And maybe it was just rooms and I thought both of them said whether or are -- reports I've seen them. There are actually quite contrary we've got forty years of data from fifty states that -- just contrary. And it's particularly true. People serious actions -- serious issue we're talking about here. And at least we should be Smart. About public policy and I think -- appreciate that the other the other day. At the here -- and still street 32. You know a number of La source. This was particularly this year just returning from the east Baton Rouge and mr. or more that it -- and I acknowledge mr. And that in public. -- -- -- To the public outcry as we knew that public -- response. It's is that and achieve that -- be handled by -- system that can -- can address the problem. In and in some way or keep the treatment. I do appreciate. -- to work at it looking co chairman looking is doing I have no question. About it. There to eat trying to address what you perceive that well we -- agree to be. A serious problem. Saying you know what what concerns. Chairman one that we yours and -- -- -- accurate out of touch -- We have and over reliance and incarcerate them here. At the -- and Asia and he is actually there. -- another proposal that would. You know create an alternative. Peace. Eliminate mandatory now that he's been on that -- years and spoken. About it and let it straight but he. It's so concerned about it -- that he's making distinctions as it applies to -- Angela you became an exception -- rule in the rule no longer. And so that you went sure that -- criminal. You are so many decades (%expletive) (%expletive) sort of reaction. Two letters perceived as a crisis in the crisis can be -- flavor. The depth of the different. Decade but here we are. There's no question it rise in the use of -- -- Asia. But that certainly by other factors criminalize it sure is now and I can assure you it. -- addict street New Orleans straight trying to get a hit and think that whether. There's Serbia live here. Or -- and is it that -- -- lead these leaders are correct could produce that is there an overdose that will put him a little in debt and but here is what. What's going to kick him -- -- from seeking that judge -- and the risk is that this year the mandatory. Sentence that just doubled overnight and I like certain that. He or she won't even be aware of the law changed. My -- in side. An adult and juvenile prison and certainly most of these people are -- well school. And the latest trip. And punishment and then. Adding that even if there are the or and had did. They are addicted. To the draw. You you can -- until Lugo blow there at all when they're going for the draw -- -- come right back. Talking -- though will Howell agencies you know you who southern regional policy council. It's women's open a deal billiards celebrity immoral 53 yeah. -- we're talking about the Harold -- epidemic in Louisiana and all crosses country who helped build 332. The -- to change the innings by putting you losers -- for at least two years and ours. And doubling the minimum five your prison sentence for distribution. Will world -- If you don't use of the original policy counseled that scoot through our callers. Cutlery Euro and with so we'll let our producers. I'm all right here's my question not listen to as compensation. What -- RB. Shouldn't Lopez would be a racial disparity in the sense that I was cracked you used to be primarily white. And -- Dempster would be actually it's about you what you used to go home. That that bad. I think it -- we'll tell you absolutely not me. I think kid does have racial Coleman what do you think well. Well that certainly hurt a picture I see no indications. That would. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Big block. -- Lights the goal because that OK -- -- Let that regardless of the well we -- -- in -- in the government. It's finally exhibited that not to be at it it will be. There but we didn't know that it people well races utilized. They rate yet. African American -- -- Hispanics are far more likely to be arrested. Charge. In cart races -- -- and that would he'll. It -- nothing news news that. And back at it and probably future at that. He didn't like people. It use -- and those people should they the kind of felt that the these new La. Will produce what I -- ironic is that. You know the rest of the legislation. -- seniors. Every legislators come here it's our -- -- The pass that went that next sentence. Stroke -- at the -- of the way we operated. Or armour street yesterday but it. I bet that you know. We went to work an easy practice Thursday but it sort of critical mass let's actually get a right now and realized that -- when he could be down. And conservative. And it the approach and not a hard you. And all of that nature are they on this topic archer in the other direction so well -- there's. And it shall be -- -- is unfortunate income. And they -- whatever the trend there. In this state every state in the country that right now that your -- Has built four to merit club that would protect. People who report. And then -- over two. Medical. Provider. Service providers. And see them from risky for a minute but you know and -- In the senate so. It's very. And leave them out at the end of the where it is that's a good thing. Happened last a lot more on the table. At Akron which -- -- a lot of the order that we talk about today. We're first implemented in tech and a decade ago and that. I would. I'm sorry dude -- Did you see the did you consider there implement and taxes and we haven't done the media and. That is correct. That this week. All chairman. Retired chairman of that out stressful committee. It was legislatures and they start conservative Republican thought about it's OK to be Smart on. And that there are alternative that we have and in action. -- quote -- -- to print weeks we work. Think -- -- to -- to board now that order or do something different. We're providing treatment people working well how to. For -- action. Put it at a different kind of accountability it's one that provides treatment that they need and quite frankly -- They call all kind of money. Think that at least -- there arteries or probably more typical. To achieve and that the cut barely. Whether it's fine structure that provide local share with the center to oppose reform. Because they herald. -- head like that late is almost like a minute and a hotel you -- still -- 00 they're Guzman. So there's an adventure there. Failure pot smokers. Bring them here we are that they're not talk about spending money and their treatment. So we're hearing oh approaching. Heroin cry into public outcry since -- talked about -- These people are going to received treatment. In the world -- jail they went there. Is a concrete flat out. And there'd be surrounded by by senators and they're gonna be even one of their more destitute in the floor. Maybe they'd been sober. For the time that two year minimum I've only been there. -- when they get an opportunity. Where it would be in it to stay so what job -- We need to read this whole thing. And that's a difficult proposition for a share. And rural counties parishes and -- and -- -- dependent on keeping a full out. Taxes as a boss and if they. Can be a little bit more conservative than we and they -- Goran decided. This is about do we seemed Gordon off the children and now you're still well Miami's Mario will thank you -- the -- good talk and you have -- -- So I think be at that particular and that the topic it's a critical topics that stern. And I don't think it -- a good bit of release Olympic about it thank you borrow what or. What. Hopes. Up on this and Ian. Reed scored. A pound -- and so probably isn't true but Britain. Abraham Lincoln was quoted -- Prohibition. Goes beyond the bones of breeze. Invented the attempts to control millions output tied by legislation. And make him out of things that are not cross. But the -- Auburn job. Longoria usually hit total is next.