Talk about stay at home moms and and a new pew research survey out that says the frequency of that is is becoming more and more. -- frequent anyway. Let's go to the guest Helen -- ski. -- I hate it when I get tangled up in my own words. Yeah. It is special okay. Anyway. You the president of the alien work institute that's why we invited you -- generally speaking and I think it is. Pew polls survey it would every college hints that maybe all these women aren't staying at home because they want suit you do you find it. Women stay home through your experience because they want to they have to. Well I think we have a series of mind that in fact. And that president theories which we understand the world that don't fit today's reality. And if you take the new findings of the pew. Report and what they've done it analyzed government data that would it's now the politics. You know the best to government data we have. They count an increase from 23 to 29%. But. People. They're really quite. Differ that day arc of 68%. I'm hands husband who were employed and they -- married. The -- are single or. Living together or. -- -- and their husbands don't have a job so I think we've got to move away from that mindset that this is June Cleaver. To understanding that this is very diverse. Was June Cleaver ever real. As you know growing up I think are watching reruns we all -- -- And other houses of moms really run around in dresses with girls -- house immaculate have time to be. Perfect moms and -- -- what I get to that is is TV sometimes at least back in the Dana estimates now. This set of experts say expectations he has for parents -- kids it can't possibly be achieved. It's it's absolutely true. People were always much more diversity and then someone walking around in heels with an apron and pearl sent. And you know intra meeting minutes -- a major job problem. Oddly enough my -- used. What about the current world and. But it's also the notion that the sixth category. That these people are going to. -- -- In this category and that's not. True leader mean 34% -- living. In poverty and today. And most of them actually would like to work part timer or full time so he. The thing we're going to is that the people moving back and forth between. You know different categories it's not it's just not extend forever. Ellen you have a couple more moments don't view their ideas are and when we get back it says yeah I think it's almost in. Classic economic decision of trade offs but there's an emotional element here in that well. What is better for Littlejohn a little -- Do we sacrifice some of the things we can -- him. Mom or even dead home with a child or is it more important to find a good place for them to go to during the day and then mom and dead and give the kids maybe more advantages more stuff I don't know we'll talk about it with -- to Lynn -- present of the family and work institute. And you when we come back right now that -- traffic. 722. -- Tommy Tucker talking about a news survey that's out pitches more and more women there opting to be in some cases up in some cases the choice to be. Stay at home moms and -- ready jaguar opinion poll asking you do you think it's better for the kids. If one parent stays at home in the other works or both work. A text guns and I was -- at home mom I also used cloth diapers I loved every minute -- would do it again. On my children graduated high school with four point oh or above went on a college and graduate school. We're also very close and call each other. Every day -- Lansky president and co-founder of the Stanley and work institute is nice enough to. Spend some time with isn't. -- Ellen did as far as families -- they get there closer bonded him big time being quality time in that trade off between. What you gonna give up what you gonna get at that second parent works. Lot of questions they're jumping where you feel comfortable wins and -- -- sort all of this out. Well as an opinion poll echo. The person who just wrote you. Which is that. According to pew and different studies that they did. About 60% thought that everyone would be better if a mom went home. Our data show. Which is a nationally represented -- that if the US workforce. Show. Lower. Number you know about killing five people think that that would be better I think basically we all like someone -- -- I mean who wouldn't. That's how thrilling night spec at that point is is that we focus -- on what's good for the kids. And we need to again change her mind that we need to pay attention not only to what's good for the kids but what's good for the family. And it's your living in poverty. Which. 34%. Moms at home are in dispute studies compared with 12% who work -- it may not be asked to be living on the brink now I think we we need to. To look at. What stands for definitely because if that family is not doing well then that kids. But not necessarily do now counts you know you can have a as many moms tell -- things story. Who were employed as. That mother who just wrote you in fact I didn't study of children. Plant them. On if they had one range. What would it be in most people thought that kids it was a nationally representative sample my kids wish that. Most people thought that their kids but misread it more time or I haven't at home mom and most kids and they had. All the diversity of months you know -- atom bombs and -- some bad -- you know and grandmothers and the whole. Range of things that we haven't country. Most certainly isn't that their parents should be less stressed and less tired -- Again we need to change your mind yet. I would have more with Ellen Dolan scheme only come back present the family and work institute. We really -- to get you involved in this a T 601878. Toll free 866. 8890878. Did you have a choice -- to whether one parent was gonna stay home. And talking to the parents a year or work in what till -- GA in either direction either to. Have the second parent work or have the second parents stay Hellman says that because there's stayed home dads. As well 2601878. Toll free 8668890878. Right now time for double WL first news that. -- an interesting conversation David Blake with the callers and guests about stay at home mothers piazza. Number of them share mothers who don't work outside the house rose 29%. In 2012 up from a modern -- low of 23% in 1999 and that's not a poll it's a Pew Research Center analysis of government data. Yeah I should let your kids David what about you did you -- stay at home parent. Absolutely the entire time -- well mom worked there -- an odd job here and there but. That she was on. My my mother went to work I think grounds about the fifth grade and from that point. In I guess Scarlett latchkey kid or whatever and nag on demand nano is still responsible and a -- the only thing again I regret about it is. My dad used to make -- like title tests. He would keep -- those Meebo easily handles like about a 100% compression of a golf ball. -- -- -- and -- like any -- barbecued chicken seems like we all I could -- that well not every -- not known not a overnight -- to Lindsay present the family and work institute I get some interesting text here want them says. It's more about quality of time not quantity if you aren't home and -- public good is it. Lots of parents under Deng found point 47. Saw a couple of ladies the other -- daycare please pick up kids -- in the seat and get on -- phone yet on that fumble on level was still on the phone as matter of fact when -- When she -- get up -- indicated by the hand cannon on the cell -- Sharon in a car hi good morning aren't evident BO thanks for calling your own with Helen -- ski. By the way the present the family and work institute. -- -- hello how are nice -- yeah. Or not. You can't make it and I'm sure I chill -- one -- I need a goal in mind. Well not technically. Tied chill and during nine. And I worked until the last child restraint -- I tried it -- We never regretted it at great. -- so some of the kids you're not a home for. Go out now out on Wednesday where -- at each school can -- all of them actual act like. Restraint. -- -- -- -- -- they challenge old old. Humbled by the public -- -- them. -- husband made enough and I'm not trying to get personal here but it's always a trade off between. How much you can bring in -- house and and European home did did you do without any thing or did your husband aren't. Like -- KJ. -- -- become grandparents anymore. -- -- Property. Act or a lot. In -- And how that. Thank you Sharon appreciate the call -- -- guests only as a couple of minutes -- which. Scott talked to the White House. A couple of minutes I guess. I guess you doubted this determine your priorities -- if you wanna hang out with us in and talked the White House fine be that way. But seriously -- economy. And the White House is putting on and summit on June 23 on working families so the topic is the same. -- -- so tell me about. As a parting comment I guess it is apparent. Passes side I would imagine it's almost like diminishing returns economically we're at some point do you decide we're getting more there were given up. Steve Begin by way each family may be drawn up a list of necessities and plotting man against the budget. Well I I think you tell me you'd be that big word but we've spotted that as a choice but really at the trade off. And it's it's. For example a lot the mothers in according to -- that Q analysis. Would like to work across the child care is more than eight they would make and -- got 34%. Mothers to Ers stay calm mothers living in poverty -- it's a -- Bad. That one makes and again and that it in the beginning it tradeoff that one makes forever and I share in just told you. She -- -- until her youngest player. Went to kindergarten and then she worked in the school and I'll a lot of people make that kind of trade trade off throughout. Airlines hit it to them we haven't his grandson and -- changed my work. In order to spend time with live on our little thirteen model -- -- eat you know we're always making -- straight out. Is there information available at the Stanley and work institute a website or something. Hit the Stanley plural -- -- -- -- family came in handy work dot org and we have a paper that year. That your listeners might like called on Chinese are changing and it and it details. Com as of a couple of years ago some of these patterns in. And working in and then being employed employed and being. I appreciate your time I really deal we talked to you again. I'd love him.