A bill is made its way out of a senate committee. That would allow as I understand it. Hospitals to refuse employment to employees if they smoke and one of the conditions I think that will reasons it was. Given was that it could prevent patients from coming in contact with harmful chemicals associated with smoking like -- and team lead and arsenic. All of which can be found in smokers clothing and hair on their skin. And that got us a thing and maybe this what they stand behind them beyond the perspective employers themselves to. Maybe a spouse -- our co worker they got a ride into work with whatever that -- doctor Pat Quinn Ian joins us right now. He is with the hum Oxnard clinic he's the CEO actually the -- a clinic foundation and Oxnard international services and executive director. Of the center for community wellness and health policy morning doctor. Rory coming ongoing solid -- behind your name I know you're busy and -- I'm glad you took the time to talk witness. Well it's important thanks for giving an opportunity. Make that -- discussion about important issue for people an opportunity. Tell me win the hospital stands on this and why it is so important. Well I mean I think we need to bring. -- -- -- April because people tend to react and and that is so important and I want people to thank Rhode Island. Take this piece for the time. Well it cannot be a complex thing directive that you know you think you decide on. Yet a simple answers to complex problem and and those lines very -- Available all the time he'll find a measly two. Well you're right and but I think it that we only have the same track. Much more likely to come up with the same conclusion basically take social -- you know in leads the nation and in bad health -- And and what our goal -- -- change that and it's not just smoking it it just the thing that. Determine whether or not go that belong helped in my -- injury your term family. And we thought about that quite a bit and and what -- produce as I understand that personal with the smoking issue -- issue is not smokers. It's with tobacco. And the thing that it -- And people are rightfully and there's a balance. And I think it -- becomes clear when you understand our perspective what happens is that. Took one of the worst thing about smoking -- the gap between when people start out and the effects of smoke. So the people when you start you don't know actually what the bad news come down on the road they also don't understand the bad news for people who don't smoke. Order expose these talks. So where we need to understand that that. Cigarette smoke it's quite and it's not in -- he should not. Inflammatory. Just to be accurate when you look at the cloud of smoke and the contents -- It has a lot of toxic chemicals. And and things that -- cancer. So in the hospital we see the effects and -- every Tuesday. And I wanna go through that we understand our perspective it is and be arbitrary it repressed people that you should somehow and it really it lives. It will point them firsthand. What the consequences that are usually not evident when slow. So -- heat for example post that thing happen. First of all I think most people aren't aware that in addition to lung cancer it can cause that -- about the actor's head neck cancers. Adult and speaking surgery and radiation often painful that. I stopped the cancer you can have cancer of the Anchorage you have cancer bladder and looking at all of these characters. And -- smoke aren't currently political. I want people reflect on what it's like to get that -- and mount shuffling people experience and their fans. 408. Partner in a year die from smoke. Or under 8000 painful of portable. And the effects on their camp so that the. Dumping of incredible important and because the top and and the carcinogens that are -- well I think just the language we use is so important. It's one thing to say. Well I gave it is this is my business -- slow -- say it would be important. And and an entrapment bit about what happened to -- what about 50000 people a year. Die from smoking. -- don't -- There were in the present so smoke second and the -- hand smoke that killed 8000. Let's let's -- it appeared doctor if we can because only get from -- and and I think -- you have to have your head in -- and a major holes not to realizes smoking is very very dangerous and deadly and even second hand smoke but let's get to somebody that. As the as when he testified from -- that. Patience can come in contact with harmful chemical associated with smoking that -- In smokers clothes and hair and even understand -- pick it up here when we come back doctor Pat Quinn winner guest. He's a CEO of the Oxnard clinic foundation and we're talking about this bill they came out of the senate subcommittee that would give hospitals are right not to hire somebody just because they smoke. Seven -- to announce timely to Traficant and I would. I Tommy -- got a W -- just a couple of minutes left with doctor Patrick -- -- CEO of -- clinic foundation and we're talking about. There will win a stint. And be allowed to not hire smokers because they. A well we don't know let's put it this way doctor we all the way except I think the dangers of smoking and secondhand smoke in and but what about the department the lady testified to. About. Patience being come in contact with harmful chemical associated with smoking. Like nicotine lead and arsenic all of which. Catherine live and isn't -- -- said can be found in smokers clothes and hair and on their skin is is -- -- your man of science is there any dated approve that just like coming in contact with somebody that and it's a pejorative term -- -- use it as we've all experienced it. Reeks of cigarette smoke can actually. Heard somebody else. Yes but there were kind of smoked generally if you want to try to understand the -- sent smoke smoke inhale smoke. Secondhand smoke smoke exhaled and the dangers -- -- come up and smoked cigarettes one matures and Astrid even more dangerous. And we know that -- -- -- and people here dependent who did. Ranked third hand smoke residue of the bill that you've ever been some heavy smoker and -- -- walls and things that turns yellow. Bit of work to do and it's in the present even one actually. And all the toxins and carcinogens that you. Know about and -- will actually -- people and all that action they don't call about it they don't deal. That and that they sheltered. They understood the consequences. Include at -- coach because you didn't smoke. Not smokers and so I'll get -- -- people yet again of people that our people. Britain picked them see the Mets are talking about which are on the third hand smoke. When I was trying to be in treatment he goes outside and they don't realize that it -- on him. And that they smoke and I'm not in the room and smoking room. Direct residual left and infants and young children are particularly vulnerable. -- -- -- they're they're actually exposed to with their skin as -- others. And there's no such thing -- -- -- that one thing surgeon -- very clearly that these talks and there are toxic and Hedo. Course the morning have a long the greater your risk. And it's another thing that you need to know about -- that we learn about cancer that we learned so much that has driven by change. Turn that number turned on and return. And the substance and smoke apparently turned on cancer matchup for the people who smoke but the those. So that the injury -- an issue of like you were ordinary life. Smoking in the trucks and engines and special. Is it is it inaccurate then how would it be inaccurate to say if you live. With a smoker and they. And they go outside and smoke a cigarette not to be indelicate here but they come back in and you have skin to skin contact somehow with -- maybe just holding hands. That you could be putting yourself at risk. Well in item or withdrawal line. That goes for those that residue is non smoker. And back to the issue of health care what were people need to understand that we have very vulnerable population in a this isn't the normal population -- -- because it. There -- actually very clearly -- dramatic extensions people. -- today -- Wednesday that people stop smoking -- little heart attack rate in hospital drop. That's that that's from the more patients are so the public expects. To do everything we can to promote the -- comfortable and obstacles and I think that responsibility does everyone. Take care and that's what it's about there's one thing we -- patients. To enhance safety it. What we're trying to do it does is gives hospitals the option. No what is required to do anything we're going to be like -- -- the other state in the country where. It's the discussion that that in -- hospital. Employees and by the way most of it's impossible don't slow so it exactly like. It is an open and I've been approached by countless times by -- and going to stop. That is enter the people who work here and and they're the patient should get to -- here not to work. I appreciate your time and and we we got to go to news and I think ga ga you made your case pretty well the only thing. Ordered it tell you is that back in the day I was in the hospital for pneumonia and it wasn't a -- there. But they had a nation next to me the most. Those smoking and a look back on that no wonder why I'm still alive. Now the final thing is that yeah. That we can we teach by example and do have a partner contagious it went bad and people looked at health care. To lead by example and Portland in the and we what you can do it right and not just about -- so we protect your life. Because so much about what German open except for the signing. Occurred at home. And that's the privacy issue with respect but it felt the leadership by example -- were trying to create. I thank you doctor I do appreciate your time we talked yen tectonic.