Michael McCann joins us now Sports Illustrated legal analyst he's also the director of sports and entertainment law institute at the University of New Hampshire farm and -- Sports lull on to a Michael thank you so much for the time and I think -- and I've kind of talked him and we both -- greeted the big appeal to here is is that it's getting -- in C a could be. A little more cautious or at least look a little more. And what the players as saying I don't necessarily say that gold his own let's former union and and it's about the make a point to money. And there's probably a big a goal and I think some of it as being accomplished now because. It seems like getting their -- today they have more of the in CAA's attention. Yeah and I think that fact that there are now multiple legal attacks against the NCAA -- the unionization effort. Which can't culture then -- the at -- and in case. Over whether or not players should be paid their image. In Damon like this when they're used in incidentally broadcaster video games and then there's cigarette today. Well to proper sport charger we Kepler. And then there's also a concussion lawsuit against the NCAA over the tier players they're being that. We're different here is a lot the same time it -- a minute that typical position -- to really maintain where they are gonna run the table. On a whole bunch of cases brought -- serious lawyers. I think it it'll be typical for them do so now what that means that he had well into what looked like. We don't yet -- but I think some sort of a pretty strong for another but I think it's very clear that they're that -- the college sports there are you today. Opie Taylor -- expert in a few years. Yeah Michael -- that being said it seems like. I would say that the five biggest college commerce is you know would lose those -- we uses word super conferences. That they're not gonna wait on incidentally that need to be more proactive that to offer improve. A bit of -- on their all maybe. And and and not wait to see with the NC doubly as -- -- gonna do I know. I was reading somewhere Kansas State president Kurt Schulz says I think most of division one membership see that were standing in a fork in the role. Well we're going to put out there again is not perfect but I believe that the vast majority of members recognized. There's some of these things and has changed and now we have to do it rapidly. So could you see a scenario that if there's a conflict. Between into double -- and his major commerce is that now all of a sudden you got the super commerce is then maybe you have a different NCAA did not even associated. Yeah it would have been unbelievable few years ago -- I think nowadays that's a real possibility -- super conferences have their own television networks. They have their own rules. I think they're probably ask him so what do we what do we need to -- light couldn't we didn't do much of what they do art conference level. And it it would be able to move and it would also trigger potential legal issues given that they have a membership contract NCAA. But yeah -- That's far fetched at some of the super proper too much as look at this and say let's -- things our own our own way even if that means some followed the answer to like. Now Michael -- Judah I guess break this down RC that's ridiculous or. You know has always talk about how can you Buick compensates and compensation. Christopher gas Redding is a bit yeah Boston Globe. He said -- how to pay college athletes in a legitimate fashion is a complex question when a lot of potential pitfalls in the opening up pandora's box that. The simplest solution he rolled for the colleges universities. Might be to let someone else do it and he's not talking about alumni and all that stuff but it's a 11 was willing. To -- save the John Emmons tells autograph that led him take the money keep his eligibility at -- yard dieters. Friends as well as the spot here Mara with the -- Jabari Greer -- dorsett. They Hammond. Because you look right now paying him -- whenever I get top female player because. As they do the basketball coaches today have shoe contracts and so the Nolan sees -- and ages there so what did you take about navy. Like on the armor all those maybe getting involved that way in ID be dealing with the university's. That possibility where our. You don't players created striker and endorsement deal -- they're licensing contracts. Without getting paid by the school are getting paid by the NCAA NCAA amateur. Rules not a -- out of currently. But that would be one. Sort of -- change if you will would be entirely making them pro athletes. But it would let them capitalize on their image and like mr. endorsement deals and that would probably benefit the players who. Our most disadvantaged by these rules that would and -- our players the players that. Bring in the most amount of money to the -- I think most players wouldn't buy -- benefit. A great deal right ticket that it took third string tight and we don't know who -- -- it's. So that that is a possibility and if I don't think we're gonna see that any time in the next few months or anything like that but it. That is an idea that's been raised side by a number of people over the last five years and maybe it's getting more traction now. Now Michael. To be out running and a unions ever gonna come about I just think it took fourteen years to kind of come to a head. -- they were trying to form this. Like the stars line. But Peter's son or the regional director you know club the National Labor Relations Board. That I'd think by bringing in this -- to the forefront. That it truly shows almost that listen if you look at student athlete. OK you have student athletes obviously in the Ivy League. But if you're playing football. In a statement that -- major college our college fastball the highest level. That and and this is to me the way it is you -- an athlete. Unit play entertainer. And you astute and and that dollar mean that's how big is gotten when you look. The highest level college basketball football. Yeah it you know maybe northwestern wasn't the best test case should write read it -- strong football program but it's not. You know it's not LSU it's not Alabama nothing allowed -- lot. Protects its right now -- is that it has been to a private school to try to attempt speakers. Under federal law though that the federal law that implicated the national labor relations act. Only govern unions at a private employers. So it has to be a private school their credentials bigger private schools. Then northwestern in terms short but -- -- overall issue. In that this is that this is bringing attention toward. What are what are considered to be by by many inequities for college athletes. In terms of work hours -- kinkle -- cities spends two hours week. Playing sports -- whether -- games meetings practicing training. Other things that go towards playing and being an athlete. And it took an unequivocal position and I think if nothing else is out for -- it doesn't ultimately prevail will bring more attention to those issues. Follow him at make transport -- on Twitter EM CC. -- Indian sports law Michael McCann a Sports Illustrated legal analyst director of sports and entertainment law institute at the university of New Hampshire Michael thank you so much of the time we appreciate. I'll coming into Jason in Biloxi should college athletes be -- you know guaranteed health benefits the the life of this scholarship so that's got to should be guarantee this is sports talk on WW.